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    Default Re: How the Draconians try to kill the luminous child

    Incredible show there Jorr. I have had a lot of trouble finding an understandable version of Gnosis that fits into the events of our time in a way that clarfies what our choices our in the light of what those folks knew. Still lestening now.

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    Thankyou Jorr that was very interesting.

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    At last, a 100% accurate and true account of the whole subject of "ETs" as it most concerns us!
    Above all, always refuse to cut your life in two: nonduality/duality, matter/Spirit, etc
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    Default Re: How the Draconians try to kill the luminous child

    May i asl url? Sometimes embedded stuff doesnt come out on ipads. Thanks!

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    This is John Lash work, not bad for a country boy from Maine. LOL

    John site: http://www.metahistory.org/

    More interviews: http://www.futureprimitive.org/

    This is interviews from this summer: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/grok-the-talk

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    Amazing work he is doing Mr John Lash !

    Here is some more about the same subjekt !

    The planet have given you all that you have !
    What do you give in return ?
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    Quote Posted by joelmags (here)
    May i asl url? Sometimes embedded stuff doesnt come out on ipads. Thanks!
    Maybye this will work. LOL https://youtube.com/watch?v=onxS0...eature=related

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    The planet have given you all that you have !
    What do you give in return ?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Be the change you wish to see.

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    John Lash speaks on his book: Not in his image


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    Default Re: How the Draconians try to kill the luminous child

    That was two hours very well spent and it went by very quickly. I guess it helps when you agree with the premise of the presentation and enjoy losing some of the clutter currently clogging the thinking spaces. I am sure his blunt honesty will lose a few people but he has chosen sharp contrast and not gray, fuzzy areas where one can find a fence to sit on.

    Thank you Jorr. Welcome back, too.

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    Thanks Jorr, this Gnostic element has a strong ring with my shamanic channeling. The script being pushed by the mainstream is that our potential is in science, while we shamans understand that we have so much to still utilize within our own mind, the power to shape reality is ours; it seems that these archons link up with the significant others who pushed us out of the dream time, where we were amazing. Their puppet show is failing, hence the cranked up control, which just speeds up their collapse; out with the new and back to the old school. Its gonna be fun, however I pity those who are left outta the loop; I pity them because I have my humanity and recognize that anyone of us could have slipped down the vortex, many are innocent, however nature is fair, not cruel.

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    When the christian priests came to Britain the Druids offered them to celebrate
    life by their side. But when Druids was slughtered by the church the Druids
    disappeared over night. Using their shape shufting abilities they changed
    their white cloaks to the green ones of the Bards. From the Merlin falcon
    to a small unnoticed singer, the wren. LOL And in this way Druidism survived in
    an unbroken lineage up to our days. Here is a message from one of my best
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    the movie the Adjustment Bureau is essentially about the archons. there is a scene where one of the bad guys turns good and helps matt damon. he tells him that they have trouble with spontaneous creative thought and that "water" blocks there ability to influence humanity. also, remember in the lord of the rings the nazgul try to attack liv tylers elf character but once she crosses the river they are held at bay.

    Put on your thinking cap ladies and gentlemen, because "water" is the key that will keep humanity from turning into zombies and become slaves of these archons
    "You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go..."
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    The entities John talks about Drakonians are very similar to what Islam confirms as Djin. Leo Zagami also talks about the same entities, which is why he allegedly converted to Islam.
    In Islamic teachings, the Djin were created from a gaseous matter blue fire and populated Earth long before Man was first made. But due to their mischief the god decided to create something different from solid matter mud and gave Earth to Man. But the Djin still live in their own civilization on the same Earth but on a different dimension. They envy Man who was chosen by the god as a favorite slave, so they try to whisper thoughts of malice and unwholesome deeds to Man, in the hope to see him fail in the eyes of the god, since misery likes company.
    In my opinion this is too simplistic, I think it's more than just millions of years of unending jealousy, It's the old anthropocentric conceit.

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    Quote Posted by bearcow (here)
    the movie the Adjustment Bureau is essentially about the archons. there is a scene where one of the bad guys turns good and helps matt damon. he tells him that they have trouble with spontaneous creative thought and that "water" blocks there ability to influence humanity. also, remember in the lord of the rings the nazgul try to attack liv tylers elf character but once she crosses the river they are held at bay.

    Put on your thinking cap ladies and gentlemen, because "water" is the key that will keep humanity from turning into zombies and become slaves of these archons
    Thank you Bearcow for the hints. As I hope everyone know, one in reality cant
    force anyone into accountability. Its all about having crossed the " River of Blame"
    and having put up ones camp on the other side. One can only hold oneself
    accountable for wot happens in ones life.




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    I have had experience with the Draconians. They serve a purpose even though they may be playing the role of the "bad guy."

    This video is something I resonate with, and my past life experiences with Cathars, Gnostics as well as various mystery schools. Mostly memories in form of knowledge.

    Relating Archons to the interdimensional (and ET) beings is very close to home, but it is even more convoluted at a more subtle level.

    Reality is arranged in the manner it is because of various factors (obviously), but one thing that people often forget about is DNA. DNA almost translates what we call, the holographic universe into a tangible sense, or frequency that it perceives. This is why enabling, opening of the DNA (opening the magickal currents in the mystery schools), and just in general spiritual evolution can allow one to see beyond the "Veil" that is our perceived physical reality.

    Archons are like the masters of duality. Furthermore, it is in our DNA to view things dualistic manner, and that's why we have been at war with ourselves for so long. The delusion of duality. Not to say duality is not real, but rather we became "deluded" and exaggerated the duality within ourselves, and manifested into our reality.

    Various lineages of shamans have been aware of the "Star nations" and "Star brothers and sisters." One in particular helped me so much in my life with these kind of hyperdimensional, and negative influence that my life changed upside down.

    Some of these beings have methods (oddly enough, it is with your consent at an energetic level, view them as self defense mechanisms you allow to form) of "separating" aspects of your soul consciousness from the rest of your body, in otherwords astral manipulation. Some have ways of creating and administering "etheric" implants to create a network to your thoughts, feelings, and habits to sustain "blocks" of awareness, especially people who are awake, aware, and/or spiritually evolved. This manifest physically as depression, illness, lack of energy etc among other things. In otherwords these are "seeds" that then manifest into biology.

    The shaman is ideal for healing this work because they can work with the luminous field, the astral and etheric body. By doing "soul retrievals" they work with the subconscious mind in "reconnecting" portions of the self that became "dissociative." By workin directly with etheric body they can feel energies that are inside the body which are not natural to the person. This includes "entities" that are hanging around inside the energy system of the person. They do "removals" for that reason alone, and take the entity into a crystal or rock. Seriously changed my life....

    The interdimensional beings work on a level that is unseen to most. When I first "woke up" I began to be visited by what I can only call something similar to the "machines" in the matrix. In the sense that somehow they were right on me, right away. Shut me down, cause me to fear and run away from the unseen side. I realized at that moment the kind of influence of occult nature that affected everybody on the planet.

    Yet on an even higher level these beings, what some might call "Draconian" did was not only test me, but train me. To not fear, to love unconditionally as a power that transcends even the advanced methods of mind control. In literal psychic phenomenon, when I tried to resist their methods with force, fear, or anger it only strengthened them. Thus on a collective level it is very clear what humanity has to do with their intent and actions on a day to day basis.

    Yes, "walkins" or "shoveins" are like hosting this kind of being. This isn't as negative as it seems but it can be, especially to those who are not spiritually adept or aware. It can influence the psychology and life of the person

    I learned how to use my third eye, and how to fight off psychic attacks, as well as protect myself. I learned the importance of visualization, of no-fear, of love, and of proper diet and even habits that are primarily energetic (like sexual behavior) in how to properly protect my bio-energetic field. Using the third eye "allowed" me to see the entities at hand- I was shocked to see entities that resembled the traditional belief of "ETs."

    On a collective level I view this is a challenge and test for humanity to be worthy of reaching the "next step."

    Yes the Archons are existent. It's crazy how the gnostic teachings relate to what I have learned. I know many people hate the keylontic material, but it is almost identical only without the mechanics, dramas, and new age mumbo jumbo (the Drakon is found in teachings as well).

    These beings spliced themselves into our DNA. Remember how I said DNA also creates reality and is the core configuration for how we perceive? The role of the various "33 bloodlines" as some call them, are actually descendent from various lineages of these beings. The reason conspiracy theories revolve around "hybrids" and a lineage of rulers that descend from these beings- is because the DNA compatibility between these humans and beings allow a trans-harmonic influence from their consciousness, to ours. The more compatible the DNA, the more this kind of "soul" can inhabit the body. This is how "starseeds" incarnate into this planet....the human DNA is a huge, rich, diverse conglomerate of various beings in the universe.

    In a sense, as the Illuminati insider interview (one on GLP and one on ATS, both have truths and mistruths IMO) said, their souls also come from "offworld" and are "Starseeds" themselves. The methods of various mystery schools resonate with different people precisely not just because of the genetic lineage, but also but also a spiritual one. They are ways of recoding the DNA according to specific configurations which are universal in nature. This is also why psychic abilities develop in human beings in unique and different ways.

    This person has a point with the talk of various of the "father gods" in our history that deceived. I have known this since very young, because the One, the Source consciousness does not talk like a jealous being. The DemiUrgus some call them is not just an ET, it is a massive multi-dimensional consciousness that sometimes manifests as "ET's." Or rather, "oversees" the hierarchy in a pyramidal fashion.

    Imagine the universe has a template, and that template is mirrored in our genome. Humanity was created to become highly evolved, and incredible beings, and in the jealousy many of these beings came and tried to influence our evolution. By doing so they tried to "make us like them." In Hebrew that's the context of "make man in our image," it implies that we actually existed before. The babylonian confusing of "languages" is both the attempted manipulation of genetic and also our telepathic/natural spiritual connection. The "Fall" is a depiction of the human consciousness as it fell from the higher harmonics.

    The positive application of "Man in God's image" is the macro/micro fractal relationship between us and the infinite divine.

    The manipulation of our DNA is not merely the manipulation of biology, but of how our consciousness filters through the biology itself. But within our template is immeasurable power and potential to transcend. It is hidden at this moment but is beginning to manifest universally. The whole "indigo" and otherwise thing was not about saviors coming to the earth, the way the earth receives frequencies is through people themselves. They are representations of the promise to humanity to achieve its higher potential essentially, simply be harboring these souls, they emanate in frequency, which in turn "builds" the frequency within collective humanity.

    As this happens greater awareness is being spread by amazing people like Kerry/Bill, those on this forum, and all over the world who are beginning to awaken. it is an effect, a spiritual fire that is spreading far and wide. It is a "reemerging" of the luminous child by sort of, "unfolding" the veil that has been placed over us by what the gnostics call the Archons and DemiUrgus.

    I understand many may find reason to fear or feel strange when they hear of the archons and the hidden history. But truth is like some believe, this is a massive consciousness experiment.

    The hybrid program is ongoing though, I understand the logic of the speaker in regards to not wanting to believe it. They failed yes, but in otherways it was allowed for "healing." More on this in the paragraph after the next.

    He is 100% right about defeating trans-humanism. Because truth is human beings have highly advanced abilities that supers cede ANYTHING technology can do. Some of these beings have their power because of this synthetic integration, but we do NOT need it. Not in the manner it is being perpetuated onto us at least. We don't need electro-magnetic networks, or psychotronic interfaces to do telepathy! Telekenesis, manifestation, levitation or ANYTHING. This is all literally gifted into our DNA.

    This "imagination" he speaks of is the source of creation, and something we channel and distribute every day as we create our reality. The "Archons" don't have any real power, that's why they have so many advanced methods of "mind control." Because the true potential of our mind, our godspark within, and our ability to use imagination is absolutely incredible. Our "future self" is a perfected being, one in harmony with the divine source and able to embody it in full physical form. Many "masters" like Yeshua (who was WELL aware of gnostic teachings), Siddhas, and many many others (some not known in history) are examples of what human beings are capable of.

    The "healing" is that these archons, these beings- while they might have an agenda to misguide, or to intrude our DNA/consciousness (this believe it or not, has to do with STARGATES, or magnetic leylines, also known as the Templar grid or tablets of destiny, as our dna keys into its frequencies) is that they themselves will "heal" along with us as we enter this new domain. The coming earth changes. The role of the Archons from even beyond them, the Drakon, and the highest layer of the DemiUrgus (you disconnected aspects of the Sephiros) is simply to provide a physical, and material reality.

    One which is a like a virtual experience separating the experience of spirit and body. We CHOSE this as souls, before we came, and it is part of a bigger "Experiment" and "game." Think of them.....like a "phase" in our development. It was VERY easy to manipulate us while we entered the final Vedic cycle (the decadence and loss of our mystical connection to the Cosmos/Multiverse). But now we are beginning to re-emerge into the light, and furthermore, seeing clearly- not blinded by its pure truth.

    It is much like the Masonic degree of walking through the pillars of duality, the checkerboard with the blindfold. Thus is life- as we navigate through the darkened maze, veiled, unaware of our god-self and potential. You have been training like a ninja in the corridors of the darkness for so long, that now you have begun to master it. And thus, it is up to you all, fellow truth seekers to be the ever-burning candles for others to seek and see, to help them find their own path through the labyrinth of the cycle of life and death.

    When you see the truth the Archons, the bloodlines, the super secret technology and invasion of consciousness is not so menacing really. What he's saying about it being a "dead end" is absolutely right. That path will lead into extreme separation from the God within and rob us of what we truly are as humans, and our true potential. It's all part of a greater learning scenario so that humans, like rough, uncut diamonds- may through these trials and tribulations (and yes, with the help of our enemies) be honed into a fine, and brilliant diamond- shining god's light clearly.

    If they did not exist....how would you know the contrast? How beautiful and full of potential you truly are. I don't hate the "Archons" nor do I fear them. I even used to pity them. No.....love them, and they have no power over you.

    As for the psychopaths? They are just playing their role. They are children who know their theme park is about to change- and they just don't want the ride to end. They are afraid so they sold us out. Don't worry about them...they chose their fate, and in a way play the greatest service to us- somebody has to be the enemy.

    Take care.

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    Great post Sirius White. Reading your post, I realized as much things as listening to JLL's interview.

    There is only one objection though. I wouldn't say defeating transhumanism is %100 necessary. I know everybody (especially New Agers) say human beings are capable of this, capable of that, limitless power etc. but in 3D reality this is NOT the case. We are stuck in our decaying bodies, in non-working social systems, artificial boundaries we call nations etc. etc. The system is prepared to crush living human beings indeed. A lot of people try only to survive - yet become aware of their true potentials.

    So, transhumanism or thoughts like Kurzweil's singularity gives kind of hope, kind of motivation for some people. Maybe not for you, not for me but there are brilliant minds working in these areas. So dismissing all of these efforts as "Archon influence" is a bit unfair I think. JLL is a great modern thinker in my opinion and this kind of careless generalisation is not proper, I think.

    Remember what is said; "All generalisations are wrong, including this one".

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    Quote Posted by Feritciva (here)
    Great post Sirius White. Reading your post, I realized as much things as listening to JLL's interview.

    There is only one objection though. I wouldn't say defeating transhumanism is %100 necessary. I know everybody (especially New Agers) say human beings are capable of this, capable of that, limitless power etc. but in 3D reality this is NOT the case. We are stuck in our decaying bodies, in non-working social systems, artificial boundaries we call nations etc. etc. The system is prepared to crush living human beings indeed. A lot of people try only to survive - yet become aware of their true potentials.

    So, transhumanism or thoughts like Kurzweil's singularity gives kind of hope, kind of motivation for some people. Maybe not for you, not for me but there are brilliant minds working in these areas. So dismissing all of these efforts as "Archon influence" is a bit unfair I think. JLL is a great modern thinker in my opinion and this kind of careless generalisation is not proper, I think.

    Remember what is said; "All generalisations are wrong, including this one".
    I gotta say I dont agree with your Objection. ROFLOL

    I trust in Gaya/ Sophias abilities. If I hadnt, I hadnt been here in this
    precious moment.


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    Default Re: How the Draconians try to kill the luminous child

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    I trust in Gaya/ Sophias abilities. If I hadnt, I hadnt been here in this
    precious moment.
    Now THAT is a trust I have lost for some time. And yes, I was a great believer in Gaia'a abilities too. Possibly spending too much time in various illusions affected my trust.

    Thanks for reminding this Jorr!

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