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    Default Women Taking Diet Supplements Should Think Twice, Study Says

    I saw this on the Italian news last night and just ran into it again....War on Vitamins!

    Quote By CARRIE GANN, ABC News Medical Unit
    Oct. 10, 2011

    For the nutrient conscious, a daily caplet of vitamins and minerals might seem like a sure way to get all the necessary nutrients you could miss in your diet. But a new study reports that those supplements may not be helpful, and in some cases, could even be harmful for older women.

    The study looked at more than 38,000 women age 55 and older who participated in the Iowa Women's Health Study since the mid-1980s. The researchers found that when it came to reducing the risk of death, most supplements had no effect on women's health.

    In fact, women who took certain kinds of dietary supplements -- vitamin B6, folic acid, magnesium, zinc, copper, iron and multivitamins -- faced a slightly higher risk of death than women who did not. Only women who took supplemental calcium showed any reduction in their risk of death.

    The study was published today in the Archives of Internal Medicine.

    Jaakko Mursu, the study's lead author, said the findings add to a growing collection of research showing that people who take dietary supplements are getting few health benefits in return.

    "I would conclude that supplements are not protective against chronic diseases," Mursu said. "In some cases they may be harmful, especially if used for a long time."

    News about the benefits and risks of dietary supplements seems to change by the week. Buzz about potential health boosts from antioxidants like beta carotene and vitamin E was squelched by recent studies showing that these supplements can actually be harmful. Some studies, like the current one, have touted the benefits of added calcium while others have shown that it carries potential health risks.
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    Dr. Donald Hensrud, chair of preventive medicine at the Mayo Clinic, said the conflicting evidence seems overwhelming, but the new study helps to clarify the overall message.

    "It can be confusing for the public when something isn't entirely black and white," Hensrud said. "But based on this new study, people should be even a little more cautious now about taking these supplements."

    Experts noted that supplements are beneficial for people who have some kind of nutritional deficiency, like anemia or osteoporosis. But many people who take dietary supplements are healthy and just want to be healthier.

    In 2003, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) found that roughly half of Americans reported taking at least one dietary supplement, creating nearly $20 billion in annual industry profits. And dietary supplement use becomes more common as people get older. In the current study, the numbers of women who reported taking supplements increased over time -- from 63 percent in 1986, to 75 percent in 1997 and 85 percent in 2004.

    The authors noted that their data can't distinguish whether the women they studied were taking supplements to fight diseases or simply to maintain health.

    "People take nutritional supplements for a variety of reasons, both related directly to a health problem or only related to a health belief that a little of something is good and a lot of something must be better. This is not always the case," said Dr. Charles Clark, a professor of medicine at the Indiana University School of Medicine.

    Experts say the best way to ensure that you're getting all the nutrients you need is still to eat a well-balanced diet.

    Connie Diekman, director of nutrition at Washington University in St. Louis, said women who want to take additional vitamins and minerals should consult with their doctors to make sure those supplements are safe and actually necessary.

    "Supplements should be viewed as ways to boost intake when food does not meet need," she said.
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    Default Re: Women Taking Diet Supplements Should Think Twice, Study Says

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    I saw this on the Italian news last night and just ran into it again....War on Vitamins!

    In fact, women who took certain kinds of dietary supplements -- vitamin B6, folic acid, magnesium, zinc, copper, iron and multivitamins -- faced a slightly higher risk of death than women who did not.
    Call me a cynic but I want to know who funded this research - the pharmaceutical companies? Maybe if older woman stopped taking multivitamins to make up for any shortfalls in their diet the pharmaceutical giants could cover the gap in the market by combining a perscription drug with a multivitamin.

    Surely that must be the motivation behind laws on growing your own produce and buying health supplements or seeing a naturalpath?

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    Default Re: Women Taking Diet Supplements Should Think Twice, Study Says

    Well ... I'd tend to agree ... if you fill your grocery cart with the various industrially processed toxins masquerading as food in our "modern food" chain, then some one-a-day vitamin containing recommended daily allowances of a few substances is "not protective against chronic diseases".

    Absolutely.

    Further (as the article notes, saying "their data can't distinguish whether the women they studied were taking supplements to fight diseases or simply to maintain health") if there is any tendency for people to take an extra vitamin when their health deteriorates, then there will be a negative correlation between noticed symptoms of ill health and taking the vitamin pill.

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    Default Re: Women Taking Diet Supplements Should Think Twice, Study Says

    Thank you, Paul, that was my first thought. Most likely women not feeling well were taking more supplements than those feeling fine - doesn't really prove that vitamins were the cause of the illness!

    I had to stop all supplements prior to surgery a few years ago and the difference in my energy levels, focus and general mood was startling. Unless you are very, very diligent and able to access abundant fresh food year round, supplements are a godsend. I feel this is simply another attempt to control the overall well being of the masses and make a little extra cash in the bargain - how long before the "dangerous" supplements become prescription only?

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    Default Re: Women Taking Diet Supplements Should Think Twice, Study Says

    I concur with Oceanz on this one, these "studies" always make me laugh,
    they never tell you who did them, who funded them, and how many people where in the study.

    I don't buy it.

    We know their agenda is for us not to be healthy,
    sickness is BIG business.
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    Default Re: Women Taking Diet Supplements Should Think Twice, Study Says

    Experts say the best way to ensure that you're getting all the nutrients you need is still to eat a well-balanced diet.

    Right...... and on what planet are we suppose to find that?????

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    Default Re: Women Taking Diet Supplements Should Think Twice, Study Says

    IIRC Codex Alimentarius has its beginings way back in acient Egypt, which on the surface started out as a good idea but who is to say who took it off those rails and when...

    Quote Codex alimentarius is one of the major bodies behind the effort to limit access to nutritional products and information. Its motivation is not rocket science and neither is the source of its funding - money that somehow expected to return a profit to its members . . . Most of the information available regarding codex alimentarius refers to its role in the USA, but it is not a US-specific body. Far from it, Codex has wiggled its dirty little tentacles into just about every national or international body concerned with public health. Posing as a benefactor, it then uses its significant financial and political clout to do its masters bidding.


    source for more info http://www.natural-health-informatio...mentarius.html

    another good source on how they get away with this is here http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/f...codex_wto.html

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    Default Re: Women Taking Diet Supplements Should Think Twice, Study Says

    What they never mention is WHAT is studied. Synthetic vitamins will always yield poor results. They know this and use inferior products anyway, then shout "vitamins are dangerous". Bastards!!!

    Just like all the "studies" that show meat to be bad for our health. Did they study grass fed, poison free animals? No! Did they study grain fed (if that good), hormone and pesticide laden animals? Yes!!!

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    Default Re: Women Taking Diet Supplements Should Think Twice, Study Says

    This study is BS!!!

    And calcium is the one supplement most people do NOT need to be taking!! If you supplemt with calcium without taking magnesium, you are doing doing more harm than good. You are asking for athersclerosis, strokes, and kidney and gallstones.

    Jesus! This is just blatant lying and evil. These 'researcrers' should go to jail for this!
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    This study is BS!!!

    And calcium is the one supplement most people do NOT need to be taking!! If you supplemt with calcium without taking magnesium, you are doing doing more harm than good. You are asking for athersclerosis, strokes, and kidney and gallstones.

    Jesus! This is just blatant lying and evil. These 'researcrers' should go to jail for this!
    Bingo! Yes, spot on Nearing. One of the leading causes of death and disease is calcification of the body. Major issue! Smaller amounts of calcium supplementation should be taken with magnesium, D3, and vitamin K2. Better yet, take a whole food based mulit-vitamin. There are many high quality food based multi-vitamins. Mercola, New Chapter, Garden of Life, so many more. Heck, just take spirulina tablets or powder. It is almost a complete multi by itself.

    Bottom line: Ignore any advice from TV, magazines, doctors, nutritionalists. Seek out your own answers. Don't let "them" force feed you bad info.

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    Quote Posted by nearing (here)
    This study is BS!!!

    And calcium is the one supplement most people do NOT need to be taking!! If you supplemt with calcium without taking magnesium, you are doing doing more harm than good. You are asking for athersclerosis, strokes, and kidney and gallstones.

    Jesus! This is just blatant lying and evil. These 'researcrers' should go to jail for this!
    Bingo! Yes, spot on Nearing. One of the leading causes of death and disease is calcification of the body. Major issue! Smaller amounts of calcium supplementation should be taken with magnesium, D3, and vitamin K2. Better yet, take a whole food based mulit-vitamin. There are many high quality food based multi-vitamins. Mercola, New Chapter, Garden of Life, so many more. Heck, just take spirulina tablets or powder. It is almost a complete multi by itself.

    Bottom line: Ignore any advice from TV, magazines, doctors, nutritionalists. Seek out your own answers. Don't let "them" force feed you bad info.
    Isn't it just scary how blatant they have become. It's as if they are DESPERATE for us to kill ourselves with their "knowledge".
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