Apple iphone 4s and siri, a 'personal assistant' that records everything!

[Eligos]

Introducing Siri: DARPA’s Ghost in Apple’s Machine

October 5th, 2011

http://cryptogon.com/?p=25289


Just when we thought it was bad.

[1159]

so, Siri is Apple's Implementation of DARPA Sponsored Artificial Intelligence Technology. OMG!!!

[Hamish]

Siri should be nothing new.

Government / Elite satellites can find you and hear you. You can be tracked via CCTV. Your phone's have GPS to track you. Your landline phone can be recorded. Siri is a small fish compared to the bigger projects and databases possibly out there. Think of MS OS and Google Maps and Facebook. They can be used against you and help you. YOU use the technolgy to help you. If you don't have any use for it, don't use it. Don't use SIRI if you won't find yourself not needing it. texting via driving. Running and texting. Asking for directions without needing anything but Siri and your voice. If you won't use it, don't buy it.

Yes I do have an iPhone4s. The government / elite wont know anything new about me / you via Siri that they can't find already find out. I can just see it "Command to Commander, Hamish just asked Siri to beam him up"

[oceanz]

Posted by 1159 (here)
'When you use Siri, the things you say will be recorded and sent to Apple to process your requests. Your device will also send Apple other information, such as your first name and nickname; the names, nicknames, and relationship with you (e.g., “my dad”) of your address book contacts

So by default even if you do not have an iphone, if your address and phone details are listed in someone elses iphone your data is in the 'cloud' --> so who therefore is the owner of your own data information?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by oceanz (here)
so who therefore is the owner of your own data information?

With "things" that can be replicated essentially for free, such as digitizable information, "ownership" has a different meaning ... well ... several meanings.

[Carmody]

kids are easy to screw up. They ask what time it is and I show them my watch. Since it has an actual dial, I have to explain it to them.

Use it or loose it.

For the sake of convenience.... letting your skills atrophy - is a dangerous thing. Or, in this specific case, moving into relying on a given thing that is nebulous to possibly nefarious.

I do know one thing, though..and that is that: if there is a hole in a situation or system for people to cheat or gain any inferred advantage through, it Will happen.

In the case of apple, the legal wedge is written right into the agreement. The clause was clearly stated for a reason.

[astrid]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjack...google-killer/

THis article crossed my path on FB....

"Why Siri Is a Google Killer


It’s now been a couple of weeks since Siri debuted as part of Apple’s (AAPL) 4S. The response from most people has been very positive.

However, in my opinion, Siri is tremendously under-valued. People see it as it is today, which is already the best voice recognition application in history. But people (including high-priced sell-side Wall Street analysts) fail to see where the puck is going for Siri. Siri will be vastly more improved in as little as 2 years from now. And the boundless number of applications using Siri will explode.

In the way that the January 2007 launch of iPhone set a ripple in the ocean that would eventually overtake Research In Motion (RIMM) in an all-out tsunami, I believe Siri’s launch this month spells a future crippling of Google’s business (GOOG).

Here’s why:

1. Siri works. Voice recognition has been the next big thing for 15 – 20 years. We still have these frustrating experiences when we call into check the balance of our bank account and have to shout in the phone 5 times in a row, because the application doesn’t recognize us. Siri is the best voice rec app ever — and it’s still in “beta.”

2. Siri has personality. Not only does Siri accurately recognize our voices but it has a personality to boot. It’s that personality which makes the app addictive because we start to feel over time that we truly have a personal assistant who is our friend.

3. Siri is hard to copy. For anyone who doesn’t understand voice applications, it’s easy to think that Siri will be easy to copy. It won’t. There are 2 parts to making a successful voice app: the voice rec technology which has improved a lot but is basically a commodity and the app itself, which is a combination of art and artificial intelligence. It’s that 2nd part that’s so tough to replicate and that’s why Apple bought Siri last year. It’s true Google has experience in the voice rec space and doing some simple voice apps but they do not have the personality and AI of Siri and that will be very difficult to copy — especially for a company that doesn’t sit at the intersection of the humanities and technology.

4. Siri helps own the customer experience for Apple. Dan Frommer and others have been talking about this for a long time. Siri is a new interface for customers wanting to get information. It used to be text-based input to their desktops. Then, it was thumbing it in to their mobile devices. Now, Apple is attempting to make it voice-based. They previously were attempting to Balkanize your data needs by training for you to do specialist searches for the information within apps on your iPhone. Now, they’re training you to rely for doing any task by leaning on Siri to do it for you. At the moment, most of us still rely on Google for getting at the info we want. But Siri has a foot in the door and it’s trusting that it will win your confidence over time to do basic info gathering. Siri can be potentially leveraged in other devices that Apple ships in the future like TV to become the primary way you interface with info you need.

5. Siri will vastly improve in the next 2 years based on all the data it’s amassing. This game is about where the puck is going, not where it is today. Many people only look at Siri as the application as it works today. Yet, the biggest advantage over any other voice application out there today, and the apps still to be developed, is the massive data Siri is now and will continue to collect in the next 2 years. We know after the first weekend alone, there were 4 million Siri-enabled devices out there probably collecting 1 – 2 utterances a day worth of data — all being stored in Apple’s massive North Carolina data center. All that data will allow Siri to get better and better. Think Siri has awesomely funny answers to your crazy questions now? Just wait two years. She’ll be even more your friend then, knowing you perhaps better that you know yourself in some situations. Gary Morganthaler – who was an early investor in Nuance (NUAN) and Siri — explains this in the video below: "

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=byIgpVZ9xzw

[cheez_2806]

Talking about Siri!
Dad"s doesn't work out man! It's keeping my laughing so hard..it is hilarious though!
He speaks English with Chinese accent and Siri doesn't get it!!!! Lol im taking over Siri now~~

[astrid]

yeah, i cant see myself using it , for lots of reasons, but i find voice recog stuff so frustrating,
it must be the Aussie accent, or just how i speak, but i can never get it to work.

This Ad ran in Aus a few years ago, it summed it up , lol

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q41AVM3GwGI

[haibane]

Posted by cheez_2806 (here)
He speaks English with Chinese accent and Siri doesn't get it!!!!

'kay, I'm guessing here, but I think Siri has a long learning curve in front of her before she can dominate the world - imagine actual Chinese, which is actually many dialects so different that people from cities only a few hundred miles apart don't understand each other, or other highly contextual languages such as Japanese or Korean. Or even easier languages like Spanish or Portuguese, of which there also is more than one dialect, or any of the Slavic languages, quite contextual compared to English, some extremely irregular ... The world isn't just American English after all (^___~ )

That said, I would just love to own and play with such a cool toy, but especially now that the world is facing imminent Orwellian takeover, I'll live happily without that.

[Wockey]

hasn't the Blackberry being doing this for years - I am of the understanding that all emails go through the Blackberry network first and then delivered to your phone... has this one been swept under the carpet too...

[music]

A heads up. The last time I looked into tracking of mobile phones via gps, information from various sources not only suggested it was possible even when you had the phone turned off, but under "court order" or just blanket anti-terror legislation, when you had disabled the gps function. It also seemed likely that agencies can record a conversation from your phone's internal microphone, even when it is turned off. That last one, from memory, was even on wikipedia (for what that's worth).