Why Eckhart Tolle isn't a member of Avalon ?

[greybeard]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
Be - don't try to become. Within these two words, be and becoming, your whole life is contained. Being is enlightenment, becoming is ignorance.

Much Love

Wish it was that easy Dan--- if it was everyone would be in that state especially the ones who just be and have never heard of enlightenment.

Eckhart said " I dont want to give the impression that you can sit watching tv with a couple of cans of beer and it will happen"

Look at his life story--- depressed, suicidal-- it did not come easy.

Most who have "instant" enlightenment had many past life times of devoted service to God, its an evolutionary process in that respect.
Also there are some who were enlightened in previous life times who volunteered to come back at this time.
Of course there is no memory of enlightenment but they do come in at a higher vibration than the average.

Good times await us --- may be sooner that we realize.
The 28th may bring something of uplifting nature.
Tolle's most recent book is not called "A new Earth" for nothing.

Love Chris

[Carmody]

Yeah, Chris..my heartbeat has been going crazy and I'm into palpitations and stopping (muscle spasms, etc) ..and the migraines are beginning.

The same way it did right at the beginning of this final cycle of the calendar.

[greybeard]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
The function of the enlightened teacher is to help us remove obstacles--- namely ego.
When ego is gone ignorance is removed.
The enlightened state is ego-less--- without agenda.
Its also an all knowing state which is time less and non locational--- omni present.

Greetings, Friend!

There is much resonance with what you share -- we've read the same books, heard the same rap from the same yappers, but for the benefit of the ongoing inquiry, let's consider the above excerpt from your post. The concept of removing the ego is one of the main misconceptions shared by spiritual seekers, imho. There is a very good reason for the ego (which is an activity, not an entity). Without ego you would not be able to participate in the play here, and that's why we came in the first place -- to have this human experience. We already know what it is like to be egoless, dissolved in Source, utterly beyond yet inclusive of all dualism. That is in fact our native condition, but here and now we are given the tool of ego which can reach down into the crevices and nooks and crannies of our being to expose what is there. Only then has the ego has fullfilled its purpose.

Blessings!

Language is difficult--- the ego as you point out is an illusion but until you know that effort and dedication is required-- not to remove it but to transcend.
In order to do this the obstacles are surrender to God --- a major one being the thought that you are the author of your life-- that you are the doer.
That there is cause and effect--- all illusion within illusion.
So as Tolle says--- I tell people what is helpful.

Regards Chris

[another bob]

Posted by greybeard (here)
I tell people what is helpful.

An admirable project, for which an ego of course is a prerequisite!

Imho, the root of the problem has been misdiagnosed. The "problem" is not the ego. Rather, the only dysfunctionality arises when we (mis)take the ego to be what and who we are. It's the identification with the ego activity, such that we convince ourselves of its enduring status and substantial nature, that leads directly to suffering. It's like believing that we are the body, for example, when in fact we are the indwelling principle having the body experience.

Blessings!

[greybeard]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
I tell people what is helpful.

An admirable project, for which an ego of course is a prerequisite!

Imho, the root of the problem has been misdiagnosed. The "problem" is not the ego. Rather, the only dysfunctionality arises when we (mis)take the ego to be what and who we are. It's the identification with the ego activity, such that we convince ourselves of its enduring status and substantial nature, that leads directly to suffering. It's like believing that we are the body, for example, when in fact we are the indwelling principle having the body experience.

Blessings!

Yes totally agree.

Chris

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by greybeard (here)

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
Be - don't try to become. Within these two words, be and becoming, your whole life is contained. Being is enlightenment, becoming is ignorance.

Much Love

Wish it was that easy Dan--- if it was everyone would be in that state especially the ones who just be and have never heard of enlightenment.
...

Chris, I believe you did not understand the core of the message. BEing is one's 'true nature' the essence of the Great I AM, which is Divine Love.
The illusion is when one is trying to become something else, which is the eGo.
Understanding is everything...

Namaste ~ Dan

[Davidallany]

The whole term ''middle east'' is one where the reference is Greenwich Observatory.
And all the borders that cause issues in the ''middle east'' today are down to the British and French.

My Lord, I sympathize with the Engliish, French and especially the American, people. Their governments have been taking them for rides, generation after generation.

[Black Panther]

Eckhart Tolle talking with Sir Ken Robinson about 'Finding Your Element'.
A lot of things are changing in the world and a lot of change happening within,
so probably a lot of people aren't happy anymore with their jobs, relationships or
other things. Don't fight them, but let the inner world change the outer world step by step.

"It's not important what you do, it's important how you do what you do" - Eckhart Tolle

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9Tih_SrzXA0

[gooty64]

At the end of one of Eckhart's presentations, he states that this talk has not been a self-improvement/enhancement seminar rather it has been a self-diminishment seminar.

How about Eckhart Tolle for President with Adyashanti as VP?

[Black Panther]

Eckhart Tolle moment reminder:

"Sometimes surrender means giving up trying
to understand and becoming comfortable with not knowing."

Eckhart talking in depth about his own awakening:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-UpVM_ccmi4

[RunningDeer]

Posted by realitycorrodes (here)
My intuition tells me Eckhart Tolle is a complete fraud as a genuine enlightened being! I have no proof. But just in case anyone else thinks he's a fraud but is too frightened to chirp up because of all the "followers" I thought I would make the first stand. I will not debate this opinion of mine as I have nothing to debate with. So this will be it for me. Wishing you all well.

If anyone has not realised what the real deal looks like...check out below

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Ok, so I don't know how this "insert picture" feature works. Some imperfection left to fix! Damn

There you go, Reality Corrodes.

[gooty64]

pearls and turds, BP

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

What a fraud, that man is obviously imitating my meditation posture.

[meeradas]

That guy needs... a steak.

[Flash]

Posted by greybeard (here)
When he gave his London talk, some years back, he said that the human race is on the verge of the biggest step forward in evolution since we became mammals.
That is big--- He did not go into detail of any kind.

Regards Chris.

I have heard the exact same comments, albeit with other wording, from another great soul. Unimaginable with our actual mind did he say.

[Bright Garlick]

The guy above appears to have isolated the extreme end of the spectrum of spirituality as the path and has missed the point of self awareness entirely.

Torturing the body has nothing to do with knowing reality.

Eckhart knows that better than most.

Guru business = stupid business.

[Black Panther]

There is a book of Eckhart Tolle for children, Milton's secret:



And now they want to make a film based on the book.
Lilou Mace interviewing Barnet Bain (known for "What Dreams May Come", "Celestine Prophecy"):

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=c7MyfbUW0Pg