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    Is there any experience in alternative healing Multiple sclerosis. it is the initial stage. I pray for help. thx
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    Best wishes for you and sending you love and good vibes to you gandra99!

    Let me pass you this info about MMS and multiple sclerosis

    Quote I have been using MMS for MS symptoms just over 2 months and am seeing things which I love. For now what about the reduction of the skin lymph glands? I think this is a major sign of what may be happening inside all the other organs and glands. I had enlarged lymph below my breasts, under my arms and stomach. My holistic dr said they were swollen lymph glands. The computer allergist specialist said they had strep, mold and other virus and bacterial overloads. These glands are a part of the skin and look like fat deposits. I have had lymph massage drainage and this helped but nothing permanent. They the Lymph deposits on my trunk underarms, and lower stomach look like they are dissolving. I also have small tumors around these lymph glands and they are too getting smaller. Does anyone know of anyone else with this experience. I think if it is doing this to my outsides it is also doing this to my pancreas, bowels (are loaded with glands, immune glands,)Brain in MS, and thyroid one side was swollen last week when I saw the dentist. I am also regaining better function with my Lungs. I would appreciate any support on this issue. Links experiences etc.
    http://www.mmshealthyforlife.com/?p=490

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    Plenty of vitamin D, in the form of ingested vitamins and sunshine.

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    I dont know much about this guy and he is in Belgium at the moment:

    http://www.keshefoundation.com/en/applications/medical

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    I can tell you that the phenomena is strongly connected with a traumatic experience which lead to the state when the affected person starts to blame him or herself for the tragedy or whatever is the reason for trauma.
    The most helpful action to take would be to focus on the event (if it is known, we normally speak of the death of some loving person, severe injuries or something similar) and with a help of some keen regression therapist tried to deactivate the event in subconscious mind. The healing can be achieved if the person is willing to collaborate which is not always the case because very strong feeling of guilt does not allow her or him to do anything to get better.

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    Quote I can tell you that the phenomena is strongly connected with a traumatic experience which lead to the state when the affected person starts to blame him or herself for the tragedy or whatever is the reason for trauma.
    The most helpful action to take would be to focus on the event (if it is known, we normally speak of the death of some loving person, severe injuries or something similar) and with a help of some keen regression therapist tried to deactivate the event in subconscious mind. The healing can be achieved if the person is willing to collaborate which is not always the case because very strong feeling of guilt does not allow her or him to do anything to get better.
    It is the trauma of war. The army was compulsory for all healthy men in Serbia. When the civil war began in Kosovo, many have ended up there. Some of the bullets and some of the radiation / NATO bombs /. My friend / write in his name / this year received a diagnosis of multiple sclerosis. Since the war is over 11 years. He now has 33.
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    Default Re: Multiple sclerosis

    gandra99, check out this thread, https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nd-help-needed

    Lots of good information

    Best wishes.

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    I was told by the doctors that I had MS in 2009. I immediately got the book "The MS Recovery Diet". It really alleviated a lot of the fear and gave me a real sense of hope. It is written by two women who reversed their MS symptoms through changing their diet (One woman had MS for more than 20 years and was bed-ridden...now she gardens and chops wood!). The diet is one that is very healthy...not something dangerous in any way...so you can only benefit health-wise from following it. In fact my father decided to try it and felt it greatly improved his health. This year I actually found out that I don't have MS...my nervous system was being greatly affected by a kundalini rising that was linked to my spiritual practices. I am lucky...but for over a year I believed I had MS so I really understand what it feels like to recieve such a diagnosis. For me one of the most important things was allowing the overwhelming fear to rise up and be realeased. It was a real challenge not to try to push the fear away...or to wallow in it. The experience helped me to learn to find that place of peaceful love within...in that space nothing else matters. Another thing that I felt really helped me with the experience was I decided not to see the illness as enemy that needed to be fought, instead I saw it as a teacher, something that came into my life to help me (force me) to become incredibly attuned to my body and it's needs. Please PM me if you would like to discuss this further.

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    Pat Wagner can help. She had severe MS. Now she is healed and she helps other people with MS.

    Please go to http://www.olg.com/beelady/History.htm for her story.

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    There are 2 things I want to say about personally dealing with MS for three years now.

    1. Never give up.
    2. Don't trust the doctors.

    I will put together a list of all the things I did to help my body heal naturally without any synthetic prescriptions or their side effects. Just private message me to remind me. I post alot and am a little scatter brained at times so I might forget to do it.

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    Have you had any flu shots lately?? that could trigger it. So detox detox detox. Bentonite clay, chlorella etc. Detoxing is one of the most important things regarding chronic illnesses. I have Lyme, very similar to MS. in fact many cases of MS are actually Lyme. You may want to have your dr test you, but only the Western Blot is accurate. A regular lyme they routinely give you at the drs office is not accurate. Many false negatives. The Bowen is also a good test. You can research them if you are curious. Lyme is in epidemic throughout the world, and TPTB along with insurance companies are making it next to impossible for people to get correctly diagnosed and treated. Highly controversial, but I just wanted you to be aware. I believe MS is a symptom of one or more microbes.

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    Quote Posted by gandra99 (here)
    Is there any experience in alternative healing Multiple sclerosis. it is the initial stage. I pray for help. thx
    Hello gandra99.

    Abundant healing energies are available for all. I stand with these other kind Avalon members in visualizing healing for your situation.

    It is my understanding the lymph system has no pump for circulation of fluid. In studies several years ago, I learned the exercise of jumping on a mini-trampoline for only 10-15 minutes a day will circulate lymph fluid for beneficial results eventually moving blockages. NASA has stated exercise on a rebounder or mini trampoline is “the most efficient and effective exercise yet devised by man”

    Thank you for reminding me to get back to my bouncing program.
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    I just found this tonight, a video series with Dr. Mercola interviewing Dr. Stephanie Seneff, and she is speaking of how sulfur deficiency may very well be one of the major causes for many diseases, including MS. I think she makes a lot of sense, but use your own judgement.



    Much love and peace to you gandra99!
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    Hi!

    Hypnotherapy can be very useful in uncovering the subconscious aspect of MS. Also, the role of the pineal gland and its influence on melatonin/seratonin cycle is also very helpful. I would also look into the role of iodine insufficiency. I hope this helps. Good luck!

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    Chlorella - By Sun 3 grams a day. Link Below.
    http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/Trea...rals/chlorella


    MMS By Jim Humble. I hear good stuff on that as well.

    Organic Wheat Grass Juice 2 oz. a day. Great Holistic

    Good Drinking Water - Fiji, Kangen, etc.. get a water with a high PH as well. If you drink Poland Spring and all the b/s commercialized water..flush it down the toilet, get some real water too. Water is sacred and important.

    Blended Organic Raw Vegetables and Raw Fruit Smoothies, very beneficial to healthy cells..

    Positive thoughts, relaxation. meditation all part of the mix.

    *Stay away from Dr.'s* There interests are to make money in treatment not in healing. Treat Yourself and Heal Yourself. Your mind can move mountains.

    Sending My Love and Healing Intentions to you. May this illness in your body be sent back to source.


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    "Everything on the Earth has a purpose, Every disease a herb to cure it, and every person a mission. This is the Indian theory of existence".
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    It must be obvious from the diverse suggestions and proposed solutions posted here that MS is unfortunately very difficult to diagnose and treat, or even alleviate.

    Many people diagnosed will have only the one episode, others have a virulent and rapid tragic decline. Most people are somewhere between. And then there is the history of spontaneous remission with this condition which is not uncommon, with or without treatments. It is difficult to know if the improvement is due to the treatment or is a spontaneous improvement. There are two forms of MS as well, just to make things more difficult. One is a steady slow decline with increasing symptoms and occasional acute episodes, and the other is a series of serious separate episodes from which people, at least at first, make an almost complete recovery.

    Treatments offered can be helpful and delay the decline. Eating a healthy diet is good, as is exercising as much as possible, and keeping active and part of society. There are many therapies outside of the main-stream which may help. MS is such an individual disease that each person's response is different and impossible to predict.

    Stress does not cause MS as such, but episodes will often be triggered by stress, so it is wise to try to have a job or life where the stress is not too great. Therapeutic massage or physiotherapy can help relaxation a lot.

    MS is an auto-immune disease of the nerves of the body, and plaques which form in the brain. The disability sustained by the person with the condition will reflect the nerve involved. For instance the optic nerve is often involved in diagnosis (or was before MRI). A patient would have an episode of blindness in one eye, and few other symptoms. It would clear up in a few weeks but as the disease progresses more nerves become involved and the disabilities increase.

    It is a hard disease to have- and to watch in another. However there are many new discoveries and ideas all the time. Hopefully some of them will help in the future. Staying positive and finding enjoyment in life is the best defence against MS and having a supportive friend or partner also helps.

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    Healing The Gerson Way by Charlotte Gerson: The proper diet to work on the DNA upgrade. The process increases by 600% to 800% a particular enzyme (a biological catalyst). This blood purifying enzyme produced by the liver is glutathione S-transferase as mentioned in the video in the post below.
    You can do this at home if you follow the protocol by change of diet and the "other" procedure.

    WhiteFeather's post.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...342#post321342

    In the book, on pages 76-78 is the detailed discussion on the autoimmune disease, Multiple Sclerosis, the cure, with a typical case history and 100% success rate upon strict protocol.
    Ending the discussion is this caution:
    "The artificial sweetener , aspartame, sold under the names NutraSweet and Spoonful, is highly toxic to the nervous system and can mimic many symptoms of MS(20). It is claimed to have caused the current epidemic of apparent MS,(21) which has nothing to do with the genuine disease. In many cases the fake condition has been reversed simply by removing aspartame from the patients' diet (22). (See "Aspartame" in Chapter 5, ''Breakdown of the Body's Defense," p. 36.)
    References
    (20) H. J. Roberts, MD, Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic (West Palm Beach: Sunshine Sentinel Press, May 1, 2001).
    (21) Ibid.
    (22) Ibid.


    To all who read this, I send you light, love, tenacity and courage.
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    I am totally surprised! Thank you my friends .. LOVE
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    MS is a basket diagnois for a set of symptoms that they don't know the cause of. Hence what works for someone else may or may not work for you.

    My opinion is that most MS conditions are caused by a pathogen, a micoplasma or even Lyme disease, which they do have in Europe.... although certainly if your friend is an aspartame user he must stop immediately. Most cases of MS that I have seen didn't have aspartame involved... but it is a dangerous neurotoxin non the less.... it just goes to show that they have no clue as to a single cause of the disease. There is no single cause.

    and yes, MMS has cured some cases of Multiple Sclerosis... but not all. It would be the most least expensive thing to try first. visit this site to learn about it. www.jimhumble.biz

    There have been cases cured with colloidal silver. Oral colloidal silver seemed to help but IV colloidal silver cured. You can purchase your own colloidal silver maker and use oral until you can find a doctor that does IV colloidal silver.... I will post the collodial silver cure as soon as I locate it.

    Some herbal preparations are also helpful. I had a friend who both she and her father had ms. They both took a product form Source Naturals called Padme Basic availabe from www.iherb.com .. these are Tibetian herbs and largely they are antimicrobial. She said that if she went too long without taking them she would land in the hospital. This has not been curative for them but keeps them well enough to get on with a fairly normal life. with your first purchase form iherb use the coupon code BAR967 for $5 off your first purchase.

    You need to get your vitamin D3 level checked and make sure it is up around 80 to 90 via supplementation. You cannot get enought sun to do this.. believe me... I have been monitoring D3 levels in folks for a while.

    You also need to take vitamin B12 shots... at least 5 to 10mg a week. Do a search on the product called Bedoyecti Tri B12. This will help to restore damaged nerves.

    You should also work on improving your gut flora with yogurt and high powered probiotics,,, at least 20 billion flora per capsule, daily. The immune system is reliant on a healthy gut.

    Try to determine if your case is caused by Lyme disease. Please note that they use the same lab test for lyme as for MS... imagine that!
    If you can find someone who does dark field live blood analysis the lyme cysts and spirochete can be visualized and it is the only way to fully confirm Lyme disease accurately. There is a pretty good alternative protocol for dealing with that without using all the dangerous antibiotics.. PM me if you should find that it actually is Lyme disease. Turns out quite a few cases of MS are actually Lyme.
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    You will wan to read this thread and its links
    http://www.natmedtalk.com/other-diseases/20843-ms-lyme-disease.html

    and here is how to apply colloidal silver
    What follows is the story of Nancy Delise, who, over the years, has utilized retail colloidal silver , colloidal silver made with a basic generator, basic colloidal silver enhanced with H2O2
    ( orally ), and finally IV Silver ( Argentyn 23 by Natural-Immunogenics - Available only to MD's ).

    Colloidal Silver: Oral Use

    I drank 2 oz of Silver water twice a day - in the morning & at three PM. Day four I begin to drink 8 oz of Silver water two times per day. I seem to have more energy and the end of the day seems to come a little later. I do not drag as much to my car.

    Day 12 The night paralyzation seems to be easing. I can get out of bed with more ease Day 14 thru Day 18 My fingers and toes are tingling more and more. My toes are aching. As the days go by my fingertips seem to be aching, also. Day 20 I seem to have surreal feelings in my fingers. It’s like a far away out of body feeling. They still ache.

    Day 21, I am getting out of bed much easier and quicker. I climbed a ladder at work, and I am not nearly so tired when I leave work. I can actually walk to my car without holding on to the wall. I did some things on the floor at work, and was able to get up without too much trouble.

    Week four, The bottom of my feet are tingling, and I could feel whiskers on Mike’s face (a surreal feeling). I could feel cool bathroom tile on bottom of my feet.

    My legs ached all night. It was very painful, I wanted to scream out. My legs hurt a great deal. The next morning I was able to walk further than I had in years. Mike and I walked about four blocks that morning. I feel stronger and stronger every day.

    Week five, More and more feeling in both fingers and toes every day. Less surreal and more natural. Both toes and finger get cold.

    Week 10, Seem to have small changes every day. Again my toes ached for several days, then I had more feeling in my toes. It’s as though I have a non feeling pad at the bottom of my feet, but feeling all the way around. Like an animal’s paw with the padded bottom. It seems I hurt for a few days, then something feels better.

    Week 12, I feel like a caterpillar in a cocoon. I wonder if they have pain during the metamorphosis. The bottom of my feet are no longer numb, the fingers on my right hand tingle only at the very tips. I don’t even think about lifting a heavy container with my right hand. For years, I wouldn’t dare lift, or I would drop whatever I was holding. I poured coffee from a pot without even thinking about it, until I noticed myself. Doing it. There is NO WAY I could be working the hours I have this Christmas, if not for the water. Last year, I had to wear my cooling vest all day every day, and when I went home I could barely walk to my car. Some days I literally dragged my right leg to get to my car. I had to hold on to the building to get around the corner and into my car. When I got home I actually crawled on my hands and knees to get up the steps. This year I never once had to wear my cooling vest. I walk normally to my car at the end of the day, and the steps are not too much of a problem. I still go up one leg only, but it is stronger. The fatigue is minimized, also. I’ve worked many more hours this year than last.

    Week 14: I started making my own water about three weeks ago, and I’ve had to send samples to San Antonio for testing. It seems the probe they sent me was not working to full potential, and for about a week I was drinking water with very minimal amounts of silver. After the week I KNEW IT!!! I was regressing. Things were not working so well, again. I was regressing. Thankfully we figured out the problem and within a couple of days I was back on track. Thank God. This set back has convinced me even more. As if that were possible. I have my life back. I will never give up silver water. Week 20: Christmas Week. I had 16 people for dinner Christmas eve. I had 7 people for dinner Christmas day, I worked 11 hours the day after Christmas, and I had 14 people for dinner the next day. That is four days out of four I entertained at my house. I can’t remember when I did something like that. I still have night paralysis, but not nearly as bad as it used to be, and I have a lot of stiffness still when I sit a long time, but nothing near as bad as it used to be. My energy level is very high.

    August 2002

    My MS Update This is the second anniversary of my long, but wonderful journey with colloidal silver (CS). I am a 59-year-old female who had relapsing remitting MS for 31 years. About 1995 it changed to secondary progressive MS. Thus began my long road of decline. Everyday I got worse. When I discovered CS I could barely walk. I was beginning to use a cane. I could not even go up on the curb without aid. My prognosis was grim. I had some knowledge of the great properties of silver, so the idea of CS intrigued me. I researched CS. What did I have to loose?

    I began drinking 16 oz per day. In about three weeks I began to notice a difference. You already have a log of my first year’s progress. I seemed to reach a plateau about this time. I did not improve, BUT I never got worse.

    I have since had an MRI and it showed that at this time Aug 2001, I no longer had MS. I have had no new lesions for well over a year. What I was working on at the time is to now repair the damage. Since the damage is to the myelin and not the central nervous system, I was quite confident I could improve.
    1 year-6 months: Hydrogen Peroxide Added

    I have researched adding hydrogen peroxide to the CS. One drop of H2O2 per 2 oz. of CS. I learned this would cause the tiny silver particles to break up into even more minute particles. After 15 minutes, the peroxide was evaporated out of the CS, so it is not harmful to the body, but the tinier particles of silver got into the blood stream quicker. All this time it was a slow process because by the time the silver got to the myelin where it was needed, it was so diluted, it couldn’t penetrate the lesions and kill the mycoplasma (MS virus). Within a week I began to feel old symptoms again. This is what I call a healing crisis: I would get symptoms of the MS as the virus was dying and the dying pathogen aggravated the nerves, so for 2-4 days I would feel like I was having varying degrees of exacerbation. After a short period, it would end and I was improved again.

    If I had known about this earlier, I am convinced my recovery time would have increased a great deal.

    1 year-9 months: I am sure there is a way to go even quicker……… I began to research IV drips. There are cases of HIV-AIDS infected patients going into complete remission after three infusions. I worked on this project for about six weeks. I finally found someone with a protocol of infusing CS intravenously. I also found a doctor willing to work with me and give this a try.

    1 year-11 months: Colloidal Silver IV Administered

    First IV: I had my first IV. By that evening I had my first healing crisis; my legs became extremely heavy (like they were 2 years ago). My fingers tips were still numb, but the numbness was extremely exaggerated. All was better at day four.

    Second IV a week later: My legs are again aching a great deal, the numbness in my fingers is very intense. It almost feels like they are not attached to me. All better by day three.

    Third, fourth, fifth IV: Each time I experienced a reverse of some symptoms I had either forgotten about over the last 40 years, or didn’t realize over the years were actually MS symptoms. I’ve practically no problems at all. I feel better then I have in 15 years. I will have no more IV’s, but I will NEVER stop drinking CS.

    If I had known about the IV’s I probably would have had full recovery even sooner. I am quite sure the old lesions are going away. I am anxious for another MRI to prove this also.

    TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY: No more MS, no more symptoms. Most myelin repaired.

    PS: My friend, also an MS patient is on the IV drip. She also no longer has MS (By her MRI), but she was sores than me, and not able to get out of her wheel chair. Since IV’s she has given up all her spasm medication and has begun to take STEPS ON HER OWN.

    I would be happy to share what I've learned with anyone. Call me, Nancy Delise,Ph: ...... phone number removed per Nancy's husbands' request. I talked with him. Nancy died in an auto accident several years after her MS cure. He had received many many phone calls and he no longer wanted to deal with them. He said that it was fine if Nancy's story was reproduced as she would have wanted that..... Arrowwind
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