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    Default Who stole the "A" note? And why?

    Notes are the "atoms" of much Western music: They can make you feel good, they can also interrupt your natural bodily energy.

    So why did they change the A note from 432hz (found throughout nature) to 440hz?

    432hz vibrates/oscillates on the principals of natural harmonic wave propagation and unifies with the properties of light, time, space, matter, gravity and electromagnetism. The sun, saturn, earth and moon, all exhibit ratio's of the number 432.

    The recent rediscoveries of the vibratory/oscillatory nature of the universe indicates that current contemporary A=440hz international concert pitch standard may possibly generate an unhealthy effect or anti-social behavior in the consciousness of human beings.

    Very interesting full article and samples here: http://www.omega432.com/music.html

    Unfortunately most western music, including popular new age healing music is still tuned at unnatural equal temperament concert pitch A=440hz tuning. The difference between concert pitch A=440hz and Concert A=432hz is only 8 cycles per second, but it is a perceptible difference of awareness in the human consciousness experience of the dream we share called reality.

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    Default Re: Who stole the "A" note? And why?

    This subject is very interesting. I´ve made a thread about it a few months ago.

    Well, along the history, the A note had many standard tunings.

    There are many conspiray theories about the 440hz tuning. Some say it was part of a Nazi strategy, but I highly doubt it, since Hitler himself was a music lover and the most extreme purist.

    Personally, I tune many of my high quality string instruments in A 432hz. They sound better indeed (more color, more overtones,more volume and sustain), but they don´t keep in tune so well, compared to the A440hz, specially the G strings, which has always being problematic to keep in tune.

    However, many maestros still use the A432hz tuning, specially when playing Bach and Verdi.

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    I'm not sure if will be any help to one who has researched the solfeggio frequencies, but here is a link I find myself going back to now and again. It's based on the Red Ice Creations website so for me it holds some sway, and some history thrown in for good measure:

    http://www.redicecreations.com/speci...solfeggio.html

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    432hz vibrates/oscillates on the principals of natural harmonic wave propagation and unifies with the properties of light, time, space, matter, gravity and electromagnetism. The sun, saturn, earth and moon, all exhibit ratio's of the number 432.
    So that in it's self should tell us something... YES?????
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    Default Re: Who stole the "A" note? And why?

    There is some discussion about it on my recent thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...getic-symptoms

    I posted a 432 Hz healing track, but had no intention of getting into this, but since you mention it.

    Briefly, at the same time that the Rockerfeller Foundation was obtaining controlling interests in US broadcasting systems in the early 20th century, agents of theirs were pushing for the change to 440 Hz. Now, whether or not you believe the info in the book "Wall St and the Rise of Hitler", by the mid thirties, Joseph Goebbels was also pushing for the same thing. Alarm bells should be ringing now.

    Reasearch shows that 440 Hz encourages the herd mentality, apathy, and unfocussed aggression. In the system of relating the musical notes to the chakras, A relates to the third eye, or pineal gland. Anyone who has looked into fluoridation will know that fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, and also encourages apathy and compliance (both Nazi and Soviet scientists were convinced of this). 440 Hz and fluoridation are most likely two prongs of a multi-front attack on our abilities to access the functions of our higher consciousness, and to turn us into cattle or sheep to be farmed and manipulated.

    But A = 432 Hz is more than just the "A" note. All notes are altered in relation, so the entire human energy field is disrupted

    Also, for more info http://web.mac.com/len15/MUSICAL_CUL..._Horowitz.html

    In the article above, Horowitz advocates 444 Hz. 432 and 444 are mathematically related, but as a musician and energy worker, 432 is the optimal pitch. It is the pitch of indigenous instruments as far back as we can ascertain (ancient Greece, Egypt). When I changed the tunings of all my guitars to 432 Hz, my accoustic guitar, which I always tuned by ear (from my internal pitch), was already at 432 Hz.

    The omega432hz website linked to above is excellent. I am in contact with Brian T Collins, the creator of it, and I can vouch that he is a sound and aware individual with a good heart. He wisely steers away from any mention of the Rothschilds, Rockerfellers etc, because this turns a lot of people off the idea of 432 Hz immediately.

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    Hey,
    Does anyone know where to get a proper tuning device for A = 432 hz ? I can see I'll have to call my piano tuner for the spinnet, but I'd like to find an electronic device for my guitars.
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    Quote Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
    Hey,
    Does anyone know where to get a proper tuning device for A = 432 hz ? I can see I'll have to call my piano tuner for the spinnet, but I'd like to find an electronic device for my guitars.
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    Most cheap tuners these days are chromatic. I got a Korg CA-1 chromatic tuner for $20 at my local music shop. Basically, you just toggle the calibrate buttons up or down to get the "A" pitch you want.

    http://omega432.com/index.html has tuning forks under the "muic and services" tab. The tuning fork can also be used to bring the vibration of your drinking water in line with the human energy field.

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    Quote There are many conspiray theories about the 440hz tuning.
    Yes, and actual study of musical history shows that there is not one shred of evidence regarding any sinister goings-on, at any point in history, so thank you for pointing that out.

    It is, however, always an interesting subject, so thank you all for this.

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    Quote There are many conspiray theories about the 440hz tuning.
    Yes, and actual study of musical history shows that there is not one shred of evidence regarding any sinister goings-on, at any point in history, so thank you for pointing that out.

    It is, however, always an interesting subject, so thank you all for this.
    Who writes history? What has actually occurred often bares little resemblance to what we are told has occurred. I would say the only way to find the truth is to consult your heart.

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    On another thread, someone asked about the possible relationship between solfeggio frenquency and the cubit. This is my reply, which has some bearing on this discussion, as to "motive"

    There is some disagreement about the actual measure of the cubit, ranging from 40 to 46 cm, or around the 18 inch mark. Having said that, I have cut and pasted this from another forum, excuse my laziness

    "432hz

    The number 432 is considered sacred in a majority of the major temple complexes of this planet.

    For instance, one side of the Great Pyramid, Egypt, at its sea level foundation, is 432 Earth Units (51.49 cm).
    The major Toltec complex of Teotihuacan in Mexico, has its great Pyramid of the Sun with an overall base of 864 STU (Standard Teotihuacan Units) which is twice 432.
    STU was the Toltecs measure unit for this site, as their "myths" relay it was taught them by the Shaman Wizard gods from the stars. Each side of this Sun Pyramid is 216 STU, precisely half of 432, and 3 x 72.

    The heart has the least effort for pumping blood to endocrine glands, when operating in a rhythm of 72 beats per minute, it beats literally with the hologramme of the planet and the universe -- 72 bpm is the foundation beat of compassionate love.

    The universe is based on harmonic series such as 72, 144, 432. And 144
    (a "C" tone in hertz) is a perfect harmonic of the speed of light, which is 144,000 nautical miles (144,000 minutes of arc per Earth grid second) in the vacuum of space.
    Each of these harmonics are literally a mirror, or a cascade of mirrors within mirrors,
    that 8 hz can look into. For example 144 is 18 x 8 hz, and 72 is 9 x 8 hz.
    The way that light travels in space is thus a 144 decimal harmonic (144:144,000),

    The archaic Egyptian instruments that have been unearthed, so far, are largely tuned to 432 hz. In ancient Greece (the school book original place for music) their instruments were predominantly tuned at 432 hz.
    Within the archaic Greek Eleusenian Mysteries, Orpheus is the god of music, death and rebirth, and was the keeper of the Ambrosia and the music of transformation (his instruments were tuned at 432 hz).

    If you take the cycle of the equinoxes, 25920 years, divide it by our understanding of a complete cycle (360 degress) we get 72.

    72 is a most useful number. If you try to divide 440hz into all the notes you get infinite decimal places, not very useful ! But if you change the pitch to 432hz you are able to create all the notes as whole numbers, and all those numbers are also well known ancient sacred numbers.

    If you tune A to 432hz, the note D becomes 144 (or 72 at a lower octave). A is also 27hz, 54, 108, 216 etc, depending on the octave.

    The digits of all the notes always add up to 9 (4+3+2 and 1+4+4+, this works for ALL the notes at ALL the octaves)"

    And finally, some mathematical fun.

    If 3 numbers in the ratio 4:3:2 add up to 72 we have the formula 4x + 3x + 2x = 72. What value does "x" have?

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    Notes are the "atoms" of much Western music: They can make you feel good, they can also interrupt your natural bodily energy.

    So why did they change the A note from 432hz (found throughout nature) to 440hz?

    432hz vibrates/oscillates on the principals of natural harmonic wave propagation and unifies with the properties of light, time, space, matter, gravity and electromagnetism. The sun, saturn, earth and moon, all exhibit ratio's of the number 432.

    The recent rediscoveries of the vibratory/oscillatory nature of the universe indicates that current contemporary A=440hz international concert pitch standard may possibly generate an unhealthy effect or anti-social behavior in the consciousness of human beings.

    Very interesting full article and samples here: http://www.omega432.com/music.html

    Unfortunately most western music, including popular new age healing music is still tuned at unnatural equal temperament concert pitch A=440hz tuning. The difference between concert pitch A=440hz and Concert A=432hz is only 8 cycles per second, but it is a perceptible difference of awareness in the human consciousness experience of the dream we share called reality.
    Excellent observation; I am an avid enthusiast of vibrational physics and the all encompassing effect it has on absolutely everything (everything in existence is dictated by vibrational physics - all matter and all thought even). I would absolutely love to see an experiement done with a concert presentaion with A=440 vs the same one @ A=432. Then, get feedback from all the particpants as to describe all the subtle intrcasies of how the presentation made them feel, what it made them think of, overall pleasure value, relaxation value, contentedness value, etc etc. I'd almost be willing to bet money people would indicate a difference in the way it affects them. That would be a really cool experiment, and it is fairly do-able in the grand scheme of things.
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    Quote the only way to find the truth is to consult your heart.
    Agreed. It certainly works for me.
    And this is how I read, literally or metaphorically, other people's work, in this case both musical and historical.

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    I'm way way out of my depth here, not being a musician, but my ex-wife was a musician specialising in mediaeval and world music. She always told me that even temperament was introduced at around the time the piano came into use. This sytem of tuning made it easier to tune pianos, apparently.
    If I'm way off, sorry !!!

    But thanks for all he info, it's nice to see that there are lots of people here who know their stuff

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    I'm way way out of my depth here, not being a musician, but my ex-wife was a musician specialising in mediaeval and world music. She always told me that even temperament was introduced at around the time the piano came into use. This sytem of tuning made it easier to tune pianos, apparently.
    If I'm way off, sorry !!!

    But thanks for all he info, it's nice to see that there are lots of people here who know their stuff
    No, not way off at all. I have heard that too, and even keeping a guitar tuned at 432 Hz is harder than in 440 Hz. But since each frequency in 432 Hz is in harmonic balance with the universe, and each relates to a chakra and a mode (e.g. Dorian, Mixylidian. Mixylidian is based on the 5th tone, so we get the dominant seventh scale, favoured by heavy metal guitarists especially), we get the situation where 440 Hz is analogous to a De Souza military march, while 432 Hz would equate to Coltrane at his best.

    The other issue was the modes, and the moods they evoked. The Dorian mode was the biggest problem. This relates to the sacral chakra, the seat of sexuality and psychological balance. Repression of this chakra leads to sexual perversion and excessive fear. But when this chakra functions properly, we heal psychological imbalance, but most of all, become comfortable with our magic and darkness. The animals that represent this chakra are the crocodile in Eastern systems, and the dragon in Western sysyems. As a child I was given a vision of St George, where I was shown that the maiden (the feminine) captures the dragon (magic/spirit) with a red cord (chord?), and instructs St George (the masculine) that he must not destroy what he sees as darkness, but intergrate it with Love. Here we return to the trinity of male/female/spirit, and we must have the trinity in balance if we wish to truly ascend. The sacral chakra works with its complement the throat to open to us the gateway to time and space, so we may move beyond into higher realms. This concept is particular strong in the Kabbalah, and the people behind the change to 440 Hz are well versed in the Kabbalah.

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    Quote Posted by mariposafe (here)
    I'm way way out of my depth here, not being a musician, but my ex-wife was a musician specialising in mediaeval and world music. She always told me that even temperament was introduced at around the time the piano came into use. This sytem of tuning made it easier to tune pianos, apparently.
    If I'm way off, sorry !!!

    But thanks for all he info, it's nice to see that there are lots of people here who know their stuff
    No, not way off at all. I have heard that too, and even keeping a guitar tuned at 432 Hz is harder than in 440 Hz. But since each frequency in 432 Hz is in harmonic balance with the universe, and each relates to a chakra and a mode (e.g. Dorian, Mixylidian. Mixylidian is based on the 5th tone, so we get the dominant seventh scale, favoured by heavy metal guitarists especially), we get the situation where 440 Hz is analogous to a De Souza military march, while 432 Hz would equate to Coltrane at his best.

    The other issue was the modes, and the moods they evoked. The Dorian mode was the biggest problem. This relates to the sacral chakra, the seat of sexuality and psychological balance. Repression of this chakra leads to sexual perversion and excessive fear. But when this chakra functions properly, we heal psychological imbalance, but most of all, become comfortable with our magic and darkness. The animals that represent this chakra are the crocodile in Eastern systems, and the dragon in Western sysyems. As a child I was given a vision of St George, where I was shown that the maiden (the feminine) captures the dragon (magic/spirit) with a red cord (chord?), and instructs St George (the masculine) that he must not destroy what he sees as darkness, but intergrate it with Love. Here we return to the trinity of male/female/spirit, and we must have the trinity in balance if we wish to truly ascend. The sacral chakra works with its complement the throat to open to us the gateway to time and space, so we may move beyond into higher realms. This concept is particular strong in the Kabbalah, and the people behind the change to 440 Hz are well versed in the Kabbalah.
    I bow to you Music. Thanks for putting the 432 energy into this thread! Your comments and interpretations have cast a huge shadow over my little finding.. thanks! (I did do a search, but didn't get anything back)

    This is but one of many affronts to our natural way of being. Picture a fort with a dozen sides to it, all under attack at once from the enemy...
    As a group, we must put equal amounts of attention on all fronts to keep those who would do us harm, at bay.

    I do highly reccomend everyone to go to the site http://www.omega432.com/music.html and spend some time going through it.
    After all, "an ounce of prevention, is worth a pound of cure"..

    As for it "not being a big deal"... this from Omega432 :
    Truly all frequencies affect DNA and consciousness, as we are in a musical universal medium of dimension through the illusion of motion of dimension through frequency, which affects awareness. If you change frequency you can change the perception of dimension...

    And: Although there are other websites promoting opposing sides of view, We do not promote division. Black and white perception has crippled our ability to come together as a co-operative species and share knowledge in search of higher purpose. People have the natural right to choose what feels good for them. We believe this should be done without fear, without favor. We ask each and every one of you to use your own instinct and discernment when choosing tones for purposes of healing and/or listening enjoyment.

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    Good thread SEAM.
    Really appreciate the info generated here.

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    This topic is highly interesting to me. I've always wondered if there are ET's that are listening to our radio stations.
    What kind of music would an ET produce if he/she/it has a full understanding of the vibrational continuum?
    Do they listen to music at all?
    What do they think of death metal?

    It has also occurred to me that I and many people ask another person what kind of music they like in order to find out what kind of person they are ie: on what vibration they are operating.
    If ET's were listening to a piece of music being played in A440 would they say "man they are way out of tune"
    hehe probably not, (cause they may be more enlightened than most of us, and know that we are just at a certain point in our evolution) but I think weird thought like that.

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    Cuz "they" don't want you to find out that music or any natural harmonics HEAL! That's why "they" changed the note frequencies, to try to have control over something that will eventually break loose once more and then "they" are gonna get it. :D

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    Also the year of planet Venus makes a perfect pentagram in space 5 times 72 = 360

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    additional info: "440Hz leads to a considerable rise of the left hemisphere of the brain, causing a disroportionate increase of beta state, unbalancing so its electrical conduction."

    watch this video; it answers all questions regarding the issue at hand.
    http://youtu.be/uVGG66oF1v8

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