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    Default If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    I'm a great fan of Judge Judy (please don't tell me she's a CIA plant ~ ITV2, most weekday nights at 5.40 pm) and she says that if a story doesn't make sense, then it's probably not true.

    I think that can be applied to much of the so-called 'leaked material' which is on YouTube today

    For instance, on the one hand, we are told that secret organisations like the Illuminati/Bilderberg Conference/Federal Reserve/Bush cabal are second only to the Mafia in keeping their vows of omerta and that its members are under pain of death to remain silent. But then suddenly there are videos all over YouTube purporting to be desciptions of their agendas from their own lips.

    It reminds me of a anti-semitic propaganda exercise carried out by Nazis called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was funded and printed by Henry Ford and distributed in the 1920s.

    These protocols, which turned out to be fake, purported to show how the Jews had plans for world domination and it was translated into many languages. It was even studied by schoolchildren in Germany, many of whom would have have gone on to become the Nazi and SS soldiers and concentration camp commandments who oversaw the Holocaust.

    It seems to me that many of the YouTube videos we see now which are purporting to be leaked from any of the main 'bogey-man' outfits of today are using the same techniques. The only difference is, this form of propaganda can be far more effective these days, because they can easily implant subliminal messages and images into them.
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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

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    she says that if a story doesn't make sense, then it's probably not true.
    Ever heard of sophism? Can this not be applied to a perfectly true story in order to deceive? Also the known list of 'fallacies' make interesting reading.
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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    Hello GK76, I prefer the Occam's Razor approach. Gives me less of a migraine.

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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    It is said, they have to announce their plans, to not fall victim to a cosmic law. We must have been warned for them to proceed, so they try to leak information in a way, that it can be considered a warning, but one that would go unnoticed by most.

    And by now, there are so many white hats, leaks, whistleblowers, it has gotten out of their control.


    The protocols by the way are accurate, if you only substitute "Jews" for "the cabal" or whatever.

    Anyways I'm all for practicing discernment when evaluating 'leaked' material.
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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    Quote Posted by chiquetet (here)
    It is said ...
    But by who....

    Also I don't think it's a simple case of substituting 'Jews' for 'cabal' in the protocols. The cabal was not adversely affected by the protocols and if anything, benefitted more than anybody by making huge sums of money out of the ensuing war.
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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    I heard that from Lindsey Williams in particular, some others too, but I forgot.

    I don't know, who really wrote the Protocols and what intent was behind it, anyways the cabal was adversely affected, as humans became aware of this certain type of clandestine operation. Apart from that you are right, it obviously diverted attention away from them towards the Jews.
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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    The Protocols were based on a much older fictional text, Dialogues in Hell by Maurice Joly, with which Joly's intent was to attack Napoleon III's plans to rule the world. He wasn't a Jew, but he could well have been one of the cabal ~ Napoleon III, I mean. Joly may have plagarised parts of a 19th century novel by Eugene Sue, Les Mystères du Peuple, for his source material. Anyway, Joly got jailed for writing it.

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    It's my understanding that Judge Judy is a CIA plant.

    Sorry, couldn't resist...Bad Fred!!!
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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    Quote Posted by Fred S. (here)
    It's my understanding that Judge Judy is a CIA plant.

    Sorry, couldn't resist...Bad Fred!!!
    I'm sure she'd make a very good one!

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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    We have a thread already on the protocols.
    And no, they aren't fake, go through them and see how many are in use.
    The identity of who they are meant to be the plans of is not true.
    I think it is some group that we haven't heard of, or it could be the protocols of the learned elders of sion.

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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    from my understanding the government has a section called "Counter Intellegence" there job is to confuse and disorient the enemy with both half-truth and false information. the truth is right in front of us but because its so far fetched and watered down its hard to pick out, especially for the 99%, 80% of which are not even listening.
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    Default Re: If a story doesn't make sense, it's probably not true

    Ishtar wrote:

    Quote I'm a great fan of Judge Judy (please don't tell me she's a CIA plant ~ ITV2,

    most weekday nights at 5.40 pm) and she says that if a story doesn't make sense,

    then it's probably not true.
    If you ever meet this Judge Judy IRL so to say.

    Will you please ask her wot makes sense in taking down the rainforrests,

    starving 30 000 children to death each day, pouring acid in womens faces, raping

    children, prolonging a war in Irak and so on, and so on. Do you yourself see

    those events as making sense or do you not believe they are happening?

    Today it seems to be the other way around, if something seems to make

    sense, please doubt it. LOL
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    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    Ishtar wrote:

    Quote I'm a great fan of Judge Judy (please don't tell me she's a CIA plant ~ ITV2,

    most weekday nights at 5.40 pm) and she says that if a story doesn't make sense,

    then it's probably not true.
    If you ever meet this Judge Judy IRL so to say.

    Will you please ask her wot makes sense in taking down the rainforrests,

    starving 30 000 children to death each day, pouring acid in womens faces, raping

    children, prolonging a war in Irak and so on, and so on. Do you yourself see

    those events as making sense or do you not believe they are happening?

    Today it seems to be the other way around, if something seems to make

    sense, please doubt it. LOL
    Well, I don't think Judge Judy is responsible for all of that!

    I wonder if I have made myself entirely clear...possibly not?

    My meaning is that when we're looking at a piece of propaganda coming from ...let's call them 'the global elite' as a kind of shorthand ... my view is that the content of the video probably doesn't come from them, and wasn't leaked by them, but was trumped up by somebody else. In other words, there is infighting going on among the elite below the surface. Or it could have been trumped up by its purported source for other reasons, so for example, an agenda for the Bilderberg conference of 2010 (which was widely circulated recently) was probably not the real agenda of the Bilderberg at all. But in thinking we're looking at the real one, we're satisfied enough not to go looking for the REAL real one.

    Oh dear... this is all getting very Alice Through the Looking Glass ....

    But basically, I wanted to make the point that I'm sure, very often, these videos contain subliminal content, and so that's why I won't look at them. There is a definite attempt to make us all 'rise up' at the moment, I think. The so-called Arab Uprising was much more orchestrated below the surface than many may realise. There is one faction of the elite that wants us to all rise up too. Or it could be all the elite that wants us to riot and rebel, to give them excuse to get rid us of all in line with their Population Control policies.

    In any case, they could easily plant those kind of subliminal messages in videos which are purporting to be one thing, but are in fact, another.

    That was my point, really.

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    Quote Posted by Ishtar (here)
    I'm a great fan of Judge Judy (please don't tell me she's a CIA plant ~ ITV2, most weekday nights at 5.40 pm) and she says that if a story doesn't make sense, then it's probably not true.

    I think that can be applied to much of the so-called 'leaked material' which is on YouTube today

    For instance, on the one hand, we are told that secret organisations like the Illuminati/Bilderberg Conference/Federal Reserve/Bush cabal are second only to the Mafia in keeping their vows of omerta and that its members are under pain of death to remain silent. But then suddenly there are videos all over YouTube purporting to be desciptions of their agendas from their own lips.

    It reminds me of a anti-semitic propaganda exercise carried out by Nazis called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was funded and printed by Henry Ford and distributed in the 1920s.

    These protocols, which turned out to be fake, purported to show how the Jews had plans for world domination and it was translated into many languages. It was even studied by schoolchildren in Germany, many of whom would have have gone on to become the Nazi and SS soldiers and concentration camp commandments who oversaw the Holocaust.

    It seems to me that many of the YouTube videos we see now which are purporting to be leaked from any of the main 'bogey-man' outfits of today are using the same techniques. The only difference is, this form of propaganda can be far more effective these days, because they can easily implant subliminal messages and images into them.
    On Judge Judy? Shut off The Tell Lie Vision and revert back to nature, the truth is there. For Nature doesn't lie. I'm sorry OP but i cannot watch TV anymore, it gives me the creeps to say the least.
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    White Fether wrote:
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    this playing with words. Just as Hitlery Clinton. LOL
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    Words are symbols and have meanings as all other types of symbols and we are constantly bombarded both consciously and subconsciously. Individual will power to exposure determines our acceptance or denial of the energies contained within all symbols. Comprehension of universal law as is dictated by the unfolding of nature symbolizes the essence of free will in all things.

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    Quote Posted by spiritguide (here)
    Words are symbols and have meanings as all other types of symbols and we are constantly bombarded both consciously and subconsciously. Individual will power to exposure determines our acceptance or denial of the energies contained within all symbols. Comprehension of universal law as is dictated by the unfolding of nature symbolizes the essence of free will in all things.

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    Is this the same judge Judy that made a good father who freely paid child support on time to do it thru the court system or have it considered not be paid at all?
    If so I have nothing more to say.
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