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    I was looking at the Thrive film and it is well structured beautiful done and all seems realy fine so
    I visited their site and looked trough the different projects that they have and to my BIG disappointment I saw that they are founded by agenda 21 in their education program !

    Agenda 21 projekts are going on all over the planet so WHAT is it ?



    Here is a old film.... was he right on track or what ?



    Is this the future they plan for all that survive the BIG culling ?



    So here is the link to their site
    http://www.thrivemovement.com/study
    If you klick on the gaian raido link You come to the Gaian university

    The founders is 2 and link here http://www.gaiauniversity.org/profile_pages/founders

    In the text under Andrew You find this text with links !

    Andrew is a strong advocate for participatory learning and decision-making and is skilled in a variety of facilitation methods, including Future Search and Open Space Technology. He is the author of Designing Productive Meetings and Events, a field manual for UN Agenda 21 facilitators, and a recognized teacher of Re-evaluation Counseling, which promotes the discharge of internal distress and resolution of rigid, patterned thinking as primary routes towards the emergence of healthy, intelligent human cultures.


    I wonder what they are up to ?
    Are they trying to gather persons to do experimental projects before they do the real thing !

    What are you thinking about this ?
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    Default Re: The goal of Agenda 21

    I said it before and I say it again. This is not the solution it promise to be.

    We are in an enormous transformation of human consciousness and of course

    a lot of organisations are trying to hijack this process. Look here we have the

    solutions to humans and the planets problem, you just have to do as we tell you.

    You dont have to change, oh no we will take care of you, because you see you

    are not able to think for yourself. So let us make the decissions.
    We are free, have always been. LOL

    There is no sharing.

    Im responible for wot I say, not wot you understand

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    Default Re: The goal of Agenda 21

    bummer. I really liked the film..

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    bummer. I really liked the film..
    Yea so did I but there was something in it that was missing I just cant put my finger on it !

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    I said it before and I say it again. This is not the solution it promise to be.

    We are in an enormous transformation of human consciousness and of course

    a lot of organisations are trying to hijack this process. Look here we have the

    solutions to humans and the planets problem, you just have to do as we tell you.

    You dont have to change, oh no we will take care of you, because you see you

    are not able to think for yourself. So let us make the decissions.
    I got stressed when I saw the people on all the spiritual forums line up for the saviors ! Puh !

    Actually they do not say anything new in that film and they do not give any solutions !

    What they like to do is to bind up people with their agenda 21 and at the same time get a crew ( off course after they have gone all the education programs)

    I think they like to test their ideas so that they know how they work --- when the time comes !!

    And during this building stage they even can make money on this as people are desperate !
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    Default Re: The goal of Agenda 21

    Maria, can you post a link to where you found the agenda 21 reference. I can't find it...
    tks

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    Default Re: The goal of Agenda 21

    Considering Foster Gambles family are eugenicists im not surprised,

    Are we to assume the dis-info is getting more subtle, and well done then?
    To all entities who wish to use or manipulate me, or my planet's resources, I revoke my consent either tacit, implied or stated.

    (Feel free to use this, nothing would please me more)

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    Maria, can you post a link to where you found the agenda 21 reference. I can't find it...
    tks
    Yes it is under the co- founder scroll down !

    The founders is 2 and link here http://www.gaiauniversity.org/profile_pages/founders

    In the text under Andrew You find this text with links !

    Andrew is a strong advocate for participatory learning and decision-making and is skilled in a variety of facilitation methods, including Future Search and Open Space Technology. He is the author of Designing Productive Meetings and Events, a field manual for UN Agenda 21 facilitators, and a recognized teacher of Re-evaluation Counseling, which promotes the discharge of internal distress and resolution of rigid, patterned thinking as primary routes towards the emergence of healthy, intelligent human cultures.
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    Jorr and I was on a meting with people intrested in change making and what to do and as some of you know we are in to build a earthship village !
    On the meting that was open to anyone, was a woman stating that she was holding on some LEADER money to this kind of projects.

    LEADER is also Agenada 21 money.

    So they are realy fishing right now !

    The Swedish Leader page states that - THE GREEN WAVE IS CARRYING US INTO AGENDA 21 CENTURY !

    Translation tool here : http://translate.google.com/

    http://www.leaderplus.se/sv/redirect...118&time=63452
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    Sweet bajesus.

    I would need a fine tooth comb to have caught that one my own. So what your saying is that the wording for everything on that site is total BS.
    And that agenda 21 is really.... Agenda control every aspect of you life,.... again.

    I need a little more input though cause I still don't get why they would talk about free energy if the movie really had an alterior motive.

    Maybe jorr is right though. Maybe they know that there ship is starting to sink and need to switch tactics to save face.

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    I was sad to see they use Nassim in the film and that means to me that they have hijacked or try to do so The free energy device once more !
    I could see the agenda shine trough so I did go there to find it and hoped to be wrong but I was right and this is a real sad thing !

    They know we are many keeping our eyes on the free energy and they are now using that to get to us !
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    No I dont think all that is BS but WE do not need them to do that !
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    Agenda 21 is just NWO with some sugar on the top. Bon appetit. LOL

    We are free, have always been. LOL

    There is no sharing.

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    Default Re: The goal of Agenda 21

    Quote Posted by STATIC (here)
    Sweet bajesus.

    I would need a fine tooth comb to have caught that one my own. So what your saying is that the wording for everything on that site is total BS.
    And that agenda 21 is really.... Agenda control every aspect of you life,.... again.

    I need a little more input though cause I still don't get why they would talk about free energy if the movie really had an alterior motive.

    Maybe jorr is right though. Maybe they know that there ship is starting to sink and need to switch tactics to save face.
    Why would they talk about free energy? How about, talk is cheap. It plays on peoples emotions for a better future also, making them drop their guard and take in the programming. "We are here to help you" "We have answers for you".

    Just buy or rent the DVD because this slick production and advertising cost some dollars and the investors are expecting a good return for their money.
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    Default Re: The goal of Agenda 21

    Being creatures of habit, we all fear change that is out of our control. WE all first must agree that at the current rate we are we going, there will be no planet left to enjoy. We all agree that something needs to change. This is where the concept splits off into a vast web of ideas and opinions on "How" we need to make the proper changes to ensure the longevity of this planet. For the last several hundred years human greed and basic human ignorance has created the problem we are faced with today. Now we are all scrambling around trying to undo the damage. I am not saying that I agree with promoters of Agenda 21. However I do understand the concept of what they are trying to achieve and why they feel it needs to be done. Regardless of whose idea is best, the vast majority of the planet is not going to take such a drastic change in lifestyle lightly. Just my 2cents

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    Ricker wrote:
    Quote Regardless of whose idea is best, the vast majority of the planet is not going to take such a drastic change in lifestyle lightly. Just my 2cents
    Agree, I dont think the vast majority even concider a change in lifestyle necessary.

    Thats a problem I think is impossible to do anything about. But I think it ultimately

    will lead to that we all are gonna get a h##l of a bumpy ride with great casualties

    as a result and start it all over from there. So, fasten seatbelts and get prepared.

    We are free, have always been. LOL

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    Now we are all scrambling around trying to undo the damage. I am not saying that I agree with promoters of Agenda 21. However I do understand the concept of what they are trying to achieve and why they feel it needs to be done. Regardless of whose idea is best, the vast majority of the planet is not going to take such a drastic change in lifestyle lightly. Just my 2cents
    These are the same people who are responsible for ripping down the rain forests, poisoning the land, food and water, and raping and sacrificing our children if they can possibly get their claws into them. This has absolutely nothing to do with the environment or sustainability, and everything to do with control.

    It's classic problem, reaction, solution.

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    Quote Posted by Ricker (here)
    Now we are all scrambling around trying to undo the damage. I am not saying that I agree with promoters of Agenda 21. However I do understand the concept of what they are trying to achieve and why they feel it needs to be done. Regardless of whose idea is best, the vast majority of the planet is not going to take such a drastic change in lifestyle lightly. Just my 2cents
    These are the same people who are responsible for ripping down the rain forests, poisoning the land, food and water, and raping and sacrificing our children if they can possibly get their claws into them. This has absolutely nothing to do with the environment or sustainability, and everything to do with control.

    It's classic problem, reaction, solution.
    Yes that is a fact !
    If they rely was into protect the planet they would spend all the money on doing free energy device and start to give it to people and they would start lernaing all hove to make fule from algae and stop polluting the planet with chemtrails and gmo foods and roundup and stop cutting down the rain forest for planting genetic modified palmoil trees to make fule to west an so on ... so on

    They could make water harvesting sytems an replant drylands !

    They do NOT need to concentrate people on small areas (that is part of the problem to right now)

    No one need to go their education for learning how to create a food forest or grow in a permacultuer way !
    Most info you find for free on the internet !

    Plants grow for free ! Food is free ! Water is Free! Sun is Free! Humans are Free ! Life is FREE !

    What they try to do is to make another prison system !
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    Quote Posted by STATIC (here)
    Sweet bajesus.

    I would need a fine tooth comb to have caught that one my own. So what your saying is that the wording for everything on that site is total BS.
    And that agenda 21 is really.... Agenda control every aspect of you life,.... again.

    I need a little more input though cause I still don't get why they would talk about free energy if the movie really had an alterior motive.

    Maybe jorr is right though. Maybe they know that there ship is starting to sink and need to switch tactics to save face.
    Why would they talk about free energy? How about, talk is cheap. It plays on peoples emotions for a better future also, making them drop their guard and take in the programming. "We are here to help you" "We have answers for you".

    Just buy or rent the DVD because this slick production and advertising cost some dollars and the investors are expecting a good return for their money.
    Yes, and i got pawned... This movie managed to take a lot of subject matter that I am very excited about, and spin a web of deceit.

    I will be more aware of this PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION talk in the future.

    I'm still very disappointed to be hearing this, cause it means that the deceit is becoming very fine tuned at this point.

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    Sweet bajesus.

    I would need a fine tooth comb to have caught that one my own. So what your saying is that the wording for everything on that site is total BS.
    And that agenda 21 is really.... Agenda control every aspect of you life,.... again.

    I need a little more input though cause I still don't get why they would talk about free energy if the movie really had an alterior motive.

    Maybe jorr is right though. Maybe they know that there ship is starting to sink and need to switch tactics to save face.
    Why would they talk about free energy? How about, talk is cheap. It plays on peoples emotions for a better future also, making them drop their guard and take in the programming. "We are here to help you" "We have answers for you".

    Just buy or rent the DVD because this slick production and advertising cost some dollars and the investors are expecting a good return for their money.
    Yes, and i got pawned... This movie managed to take a lot of subject matter that I am very excited about, and spin a web of deceit.

    I will be more aware of this PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION talk in the future.

    I'm still very disappointed to be hearing this, cause it means that the deceit is becoming very fine tuned at this point.
    Let us take it as a compliment that they are having to up their game and spend investor money to do it. I hope it is like a big wet fart in their face.
    We will make this world a better place and we will do it without those who have been running the scam for centuries now. They didn't count on us having each others backs. In their dog eat dog "survival of the fittest" Darwinian mindset, you are on your own and have to watch your back.

    We are beginning to look out for each other, which is why this effort is failing fast in the alternative circles.

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