The goal of Agenda 21

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by modwiz (here)
I hope it is like a big wet fart in their face.

Now THERE'S a visual. Paul, can we get an icon for that?

[STATIC]

Thanks for that modwiz.

I think your right. They must be getting to the end of there rope when they are resorting to this sort of thing.

[Paul]

Posted by Fred S. (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
I hope it is like a big wet fart in their face.

Now THERE'S a visual. Paul, can we get an icon for that?

I'll leave that up to you guys - you can post whatever images you like, within reasonable limits.

This particular request (1) sounds a bit specialized, and (2) might require more detail in the image than the usual emoticon provides.

(But too much detail, and it risks exceeding "reasonable limits .)

[dAkapacity]

Howdy,

In 1 way I liked the film a lot. It talked about free energy, the UFO question, the money deception, etc... and all those topics were presented in a very down to earth, almost simple fashion. At times it even took my emotions on a ride from despair & hope (Hollywood qualities) to a cathartic cry with a quiet all knowing smile at the end (nah, Hollywood can't do that last part ;-)

But there were things which created giant ?-marks on the top of my head as well:
* The film was so polished and overproduced (all participants' pimples and wrinkles seemed Photoshopped away) ~ as if they were living in an idealized (A21)-world already... My question: who payed for this and to what other purpose?
* The taurus frequently brought up the image of an imprisoned world, much like the logos of UNICEF, WHO, etc... I remember a video of our planet locked up in an energy field which didn't follow the natural flow of the universe. It just passed my mind, no convinctions here.
* In the beginning of the movie much attention was given to free energy, but towards the end it seemed that only the current 'alternative' energy methods were being depicted.
* It didn't bring much solutions, although talking about these things seems like a good idea. And I guess we will/can eventually bring our individual (hopefully non conflicting) solutions once we reconnect to source, insj'allah.

Just a thought of the moment: If free energy has been suppressed for ages and a growing number of people are getting aware of it, wouldn't this film be one of the many imprints meant for us to switch over to this new awareness without 'those that think they're in power' losing their 'power'? Hey, now we can blame big pharma, the banks, the suppressing energy industries & be grateful for alien intelligence which wants to help us (I sometimes think as both sides as created entities outside ourselves, manifestations of our inner selves... the good, the bad). We are shown the truth. And those who show us the truth show can now show us another show, another agenda to follow, maybe an agenda followed by a number... The image of David Icke's media show covering up what's happening behind the curtains comes to mind. Point is that we are kept busy by the showmasters once again with stories outside ourselves which nibbles on our individual and collective divine power to create a beautiful reality / to manifest the facet of the diamond that reflects a beautiful world.

Kudos,
xxdA.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I think Wade Frasier has his finger on this one. The problem with the future as depicted in Agenda 21 is that it is based on the scarcity paradigm. That is why the cities are so densely packed, to reduce consumption of energy.

I believe the agenda is to head us on a path to the future based on the current understandings of science. That way, old power structures will remain in place. No one will question the need for the consolidation of power and the regimenting of our lives based on today's technologies. And once power is firmly, unequivocably, in their grasp maybe they will allow a bit of the advanced technologies to trickle into our lives. But by then it will be too late to do much about it.

Free, clean, virtually limitless energy is already fact. But it's on a priority, need to know hush list - and the public don't need to know. The basis for the existence of the energetic vacuum was born with modern physics. It is not an aberation or some newly discovered fundamental force. It is merely the unfolding of what up until now had been assumed to be simply a universal constant. There are many areas in the sciences today that reveal aspects of this phenomenon, if indeed it is singular. Some believe that a careful study into the deeper ramifications of this over-looked part of science could open up an entirely new branch of physics in the future.

The future will not look anything like those depicted by the Venus Project or in Agenda 21. It is appealing from our present point of view, given circumstances as they are today. But the beauty of this new technology is that it is small and cheap and the power derived from it is almost limitless. One device is all anybody will ever need. And it will be able to meet all their energy demands. Why live crowded together in such a scenario? Who could make you?

Free energy would change society entirely, and very quickly. No one can predict what the outcome would be.

If we were to get rid of the 1% that rules our world, don't you think the ones that take the reins will be corrupted or at the very least unduly influenced by personal connections?
The 99% must rule, together!
But first we must unite.
I guess from that perspective, Thrive serves a purpose. I do not see anybody disagreeing in principle with the facts presented.
They did a good job of listing the tenets of a prospectus we can all agree on.

[Maria Stade]

Yes the old must die and the elite must be removed if we are going to create a new world !
And In my opinion it is bad for the soul and spirit to put large groups of people in a small place/area !
People need to connect with nature and all that is in it, and understand it !

We can exist here without harming the planet but all need to be done in different ways !

And we need NOT go back to the middle age I have seen some magnetic motors and I know there is many inventions out there all ready !
Engines that runs on water and so on !

The top must go the sooner the better for us all !

There agenda will fail because the archontic world they like to make for us is not a healthy one !

I have seen Frescos citys to They are scary even though there are many good ideas in them to !

We are a part of nature and will always be !

I look forward to that day when people have there own energy system and that makes it even possible to grow food in the winter in cold parts
Most can be produced lokaly when it comes to food ! We can grow fish and clean with plants and use rainwater and clean it for use !

The problem now is HOW MUCH IS WE GOING TO POLLUTE THE PLANET that feeds us before people say NO and refuse to help the current system
By their action !

It is simple........ No healthy planet = No healthy Life

Most are poisoned and dont even know it !

[buckminster fuller]

Agenda 21 was apparently created following the Rio summit. Can't tell you by who exactly yet, still looking into that. What I did learn is that it is meant to promote local actions in the line of sustainable development, and motivate collaborations. Goal is to find local, practical solutions in terms of energy saving and CO2 management.

No dirty hidden plans here. They (the tptb) would like us to think that they have a upper hand on everything, and the paranoïa has taken good. We should be cautious in our judgments, or we might miss a few opportunities to make a difference, even play against ourselves.

[Maria Stade]

Posted by buckminster fuller (here)
Agenda 21 was apparently created following the Rio summit. Can't tell you by who exactly yet, still looking into that. What I did learn is that it is meant to promote local actions in the line of sustainable development, and motivate collaborations. Goal is to find local, practical solutions in terms of energy saving and CO2 management.

No dirty hidden plans here. They (the tptb) would like us to think that they have a upper hand on everything, and the paranoïa has taken good. We should be cautious in our judgments, or we might miss a few opportunities to make a difference, even play against ourselves.

Yes please tell me by Who this was made !

No it is in plain site All can see it.

So you are right it is NOT hidden !

[buckminster fuller]

http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/

It's a UN initiative so it seems.

[Laurel]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Why would they talk about free energy? How about, talk is cheap. It plays on peoples emotions for a better future also, making them drop their guard and take in the programming. "We are here to help you" "We have answers for you".

Where's John Galt when you need him?

[Maria Stade]

Here is some more by Jackovesk :

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Agenda--2011-

And here :

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Eyes-Only-..-

[buckminster fuller]

Posted by Maria Stade (here)
Here is some more by Jackovesk :

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Agenda--2011-

And here :

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Eyes-Only-..-

doesn't refer to agenda 21 but to the Human Microchipping Agenda.

[Maria Stade]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oygBg6ETYIM

Behind Agenda 21 is ICLEI

And they are supported by :

http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=779

[Maria Stade]

Here is some reading for thous that are digging !

Maybe the writer say something intressting !
( I havent read them my self but they seems intressting )

http://www.stewardsofthesierranation..._officials.pdf

http://www.theverichip.com/Verichipebook2.pdf

[Maria Stade]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41ikDa78m8k

Chipped or food stamps ?

[Maria Stade]

The best advice in the film was Follow the money and you find out WHO is behind !
I did just that and to me it is NWO !

They are manipulators ..... for all people wanting to save the world ..... dont fall in to their hands !

Se first who it is that is going to back up, and from where the money comes ..... the agenda can be different from the one that you support to create !

[Revlin John]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I believe the agenda is to head us on a path to the future based on the current understandings of science. That way, old power structures will remain in place. No one will question the need for the consolidation of power and the regimenting of our lives based on today's technologies. And once power is firmly, unequivocably, in their grasp maybe they will allow a bit of the advanced technologies to trickle into our lives. But by then it will be too late to do much about it.
...

Right on, Ernie.

I think that stage of the game happened in the last century, in the aftermath of WW2.
Soldiers came home (in the U.S.) to a hyper-industrialized society whose technocratic masters had already prepared robot/slave working orders.
Of course no one thought of themselves as a slave thanks to the "trickle-down" affluence afforded by the process of accumulating more and more cheap tech.
Unfortunately the real technology was creeping in, automating repetitive jobs that had once been performed by human beings.
It reached the level in the 70s and 80s that if an actual slave, with slave quality-of-life and life expectancy wasn't doing the work, then it was cheaper to "invest" in the automation. For those managers who could not afford the investment, Asia and Central America would happily provide real slaves.
It took all of those developments for consumers in the U.S. to begin to get the big picture: You are being replaced. The technocracy (NWO to most Avaloners) no longer needs your services and will therefore be shutting down its baby-sitting operations.

For a midway historical perspective and commentary on this trend, please see "The Making of a Counter-Culture" by Theodore Roszak

We need a new base for "production" of "goods". The managers, the 1%, are not going to give up control of the technology, the information or the globally distributed factory floors. NOR SHOULD WE WANT THEM TO. Such resources are only usable in a technocratic (NWO) state where all ethical concerns are subordinate to the chief concern of power and control.
Even if the 99% took over the iphone factories in China and removed the consumer tracking firmware, are we willing to continue shipping around the world with giant diesel cargo shops which are, at the present time, the No1 source of air (and sea) pollution on the planet?

We have to start fresh. Not from ground zero, but FRESH.
Before action, we need new VISIONS.
Thrive, Zeitgeist (via Venus Project), and other such fair are presenting Visions of a world to be created. I agree that these presentations have been limited, fear-based, and ultimately impotent. So...

Let's build a better one.

Who wants to start?

[58andfixed]

I'm willing to read ideas.

Mine seem to far out to grasp.

- 58

Posted by Revlin John (here)

Let's build a better one.

Who wants to start?

[Maria Stade]

Rosa Koire: U.N. Agenda 21.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPX_H5qxfKw

[Cartomancer]

Agenda 21 is real and is happening now. Agenda 21 is also the rationale for codex alimentarius which is designed to make nutrients and vitamins controlled substances. They are trying to stop the Amish from trading milk and cheese between them. Agenda 21 is going to lead to a distopic "Soylent Green" kind of existence. If you have never seen this movie you need to check it out.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTjQO163P2E