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    Here is some reading for thous that are digging !

    Maybe the writer say something intressting !
    ( I havent read them my self but they seems intressting )

    http://www.stewardsofthesierranation..._officials.pdf

    http://www.theverichip.com/Verichipebook2.pdf
    The planet have given you all that you have !
    What do you give in return ?
    Be the change you wish to see.

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    Chipped or food stamps ?
    The planet have given you all that you have !
    What do you give in return ?
    Be the change you wish to see.

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    The best advice in the film was Follow the money and you find out WHO is behind !
    I did just that and to me it is NWO !

    They are manipulators ..... for all people wanting to save the world ..... dont fall in to their hands !

    Se first who it is that is going to back up, and from where the money comes ..... the agenda can be different from the one that you support to create !
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I believe the agenda is to head us on a path to the future based on the current understandings of science. That way, old power structures will remain in place. No one will question the need for the consolidation of power and the regimenting of our lives based on today's technologies. And once power is firmly, unequivocably, in their grasp maybe they will allow a bit of the advanced technologies to trickle into our lives. But by then it will be too late to do much about it.
    ...
    Right on, Ernie.

    I think that stage of the game happened in the last century, in the aftermath of WW2.
    Soldiers came home (in the U.S.) to a hyper-industrialized society whose technocratic masters had already prepared robot/slave working orders.
    Of course no one thought of themselves as a slave thanks to the "trickle-down" affluence afforded by the process of accumulating more and more cheap tech.
    Unfortunately the real technology was creeping in, automating repetitive jobs that had once been performed by human beings.
    It reached the level in the 70s and 80s that if an actual slave, with slave quality-of-life and life expectancy wasn't doing the work, then it was cheaper to "invest" in the automation. For those managers who could not afford the investment, Asia and Central America would happily provide real slaves.
    It took all of those developments for consumers in the U.S. to begin to get the big picture: You are being replaced. The technocracy (NWO to most Avaloners) no longer needs your services and will therefore be shutting down its baby-sitting operations.

    For a midway historical perspective and commentary on this trend, please see "The Making of a Counter-Culture" by Theodore Roszak


    We need a new base for "production" of "goods". The managers, the 1%, are not going to give up control of the technology, the information or the globally distributed factory floors. NOR SHOULD WE WANT THEM TO. Such resources are only usable in a technocratic (NWO) state where all ethical concerns are subordinate to the chief concern of power and control.
    Even if the 99% took over the iphone factories in China and removed the consumer tracking firmware, are we willing to continue shipping around the world with giant diesel cargo shops which are, at the present time, the No1 source of air (and sea) pollution on the planet?

    We have to start fresh. Not from ground zero, but FRESH.
    Before action, we need new VISIONS.
    Thrive, Zeitgeist (via Venus Project), and other such fair are presenting Visions of a world to be created. I agree that these presentations have been limited, fear-based, and ultimately impotent. So...

    Let's build a better one.

    Who wants to start?

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    I'm willing to read ideas.

    Mine seem to far out to grasp.

    - 58

    Quote Posted by Revlin John (here)

    Let's build a better one.

    Who wants to start
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    Agenda 21 a deliberate dumbing down.
    This is the real enemy!!!
    It is not all light and love: we have to be more alert not less!

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    Agenda 21 and changing DNA.


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    He's telling how they have distracted people from what is going on......!


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    Obama is "too stupid" to realize he's wrong.....

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    Hi Tony

    Very interesting information.

    You usually get a more active response than this is generating so far.

    I wonder if the info you have posted is percieved as both shocking and fear mongering?

    I for one do not think the latter.

    Having watched that vid, I have, reluctantly to concur with the information given.

    Hard to digest, yes, ... need to know, most definitely YES! (IMHO)

    The next question that is begged, is what can we do about it?

    We need to access//use at least some of those services.

    Personnaly I do not use a mobile phone, no need. Some think me mad when I say I do not own one.

    As for 'Facebook/Twitter', etc, I saw through that 'ego ploy' ages ago, and never surcumed.

    But, I do have a Google account, also use it as a search engine, and use Microsoft.
    So I suppose I am bu**ered?!

    I do have a 'secret power' though, I do//can affect electronic instruments by some 'freaky ability'.

    Wrist watches go dead on me within an hour.

    Now.....I wonder if I can learn to control that ability, and 'zap in right back at them'?!.............Hmmmmmmmm

    Seriously though, what do you propose as a way of taking afirmitive action? (It does not appeal to me, to go live in the jungle with the natives)
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    Quote Posted by CeltMan (here)
    Hi Tony

    Very interesting information.

    You usually get a more active response than this is generating so far.

    I wonder if the info you have posted is percieved as both shocking and fear mongering?

    I for one do not think the latter.

    Having watched that vid, I have, reluctantly to concur with the information given.

    Hard to digest, yes, ... need to know, most definitely YES! (IMHO)

    The next question that is begged, is what can we do about it?

    We need to access//use at least some of those services.

    Personnaly I do not use a mobile phone, no need. Some think me mad when I say I do not own one.

    As for 'Facebook/Twitter', etc, I saw through that 'ego ply' ages ago, and never surcumed.

    But, I do have a Google account, also use it as a search engine, and use Microsoft.
    So I suppose I am bu**ered?!

    I do have a 'secret power' though, I do//can affect electronic instruments by some 'freaky ability'.

    Wrist watches go dead on me within an hour.

    Now.....I wonder if I can learn to control that ability, and 'sap in right back at them'?!.............Hmmmmmmmm

    Seriously though, what do you propose as a way of taking afirmitive action? (It does not appeal to me, to go live in the jungle with the natives)

    Hello Celtman,
    Well, one way is to change our focus, and then listen to our own conscience and inner tutor.

    One of the problems with talking about illusions, is discussing something that never existed in the first place!
    It's like talking about a barrens woman's son.

    Everything in the universe is being discussed,
    but every thing in the universe has no true existence, being of a temporary nature.

    It's like a pot of water, it is pure water. We are that pure water.
    There is mud in the water = our clinging to a solid self, and defilements (negative emotions).
    This mud never existed in the first place, but we do not see that.
    Our job is not to remove the mud, as that would imply the mud actually existing.
    Our job is to merely be the pure water.

    External forces come along and constantly stir the pot, to keep the pure water cloudy.

    All we have to do is to stop complying, meaning accepting or rejecting.
    Accepting and rejecting is merely hope and fear, it keeps the game going!


    All the best,
    Tony

    ps. You seem to have some interesting frequencies in your body!

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    Hi Tony

    I was also perhaps referring to 'what we as a species' can do to affect a positive change?

    I understand that, 'if we percieve that it is all an illusion anyway, we will be able to rise above it all', but in simple terms , what can be done to stop the affects upon people as a whole?

    As you know, from at least 9 years of my background, I have some grasp of the concept.

    To me in simple terms it is 'Being in the Present Moment'

    Lets face it, animals are ITPM, they do not sit and ponder the meaning of life, and it suits them fine. (OR at least I do not think they do?!..Lol)

    Probs with humans is that we have this 'thinking brain/intelligence',..and look where that has got us.

    I also can grasp the concept of 'Manifesting Intent'

    On a more practical note,(vs vs the second tape//'electrical wiring in homes/buildings, and how it can affect us in a detrimental manner') there is//was an instrument, (darned if I can remember what it is called) which one can plug into the mains circuit in home, & it 'apparently neutralises the negative affects'

    I bought one (20) years ago, the light went out after a few days, and as I could not get into it to inspect, I assumed it was defunct?!

    #' My strange energy patterns'?.........Hmmm that is a different (and-for me at least, intriging complex)-subject,- wouldn't want to derail your thread old son!..lol

    P.S. Ref to my 'acronym' at footer, (F.E.A.R.) it is what I firmy believe in, watch out for, and try to live by.
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    Great videos Tony,very interesting without a doubt......

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    Thanks Tony, great Tread and video.

    I hope that this Agenda 21 (as it stands in the video) donít get a solid grip on World Affairs (not the business type, the people type), otherwise, we are heading to a much different world. Since people are caught up raising family, get themselves indebt, work all their life without being aware of what is going on in the World, how can they be made aware of what up for their grandchildrenÖ!, and how may they counteract on this dangerous initiative by the United Nations.

    I thought that Agenda 21 was part of the Sustainable Development Movement. Within that general initiative, there was one part where NATURAL RESOURCES were used such that practically no much waste came out of the production lines, that Earth, Water, Air, Humans were used with dignity and respect. Hmm!, if Agenda 21 is, what in the video, that is not the objective, itís dangerous, and we donít have much leverage to counter, donít we?

    Sad story to unfold.

    All the best to you Tony.

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    Tony

    Just to say, that a 'chain of thought' about 'illusions' awakened old memories!

    About the two books by Richard Bach: 'Jonathan Livingston Seagul', & 'Illusions'

    I will have to search in my book collection, but I will dig it out & re-read-after 30 years! (1982--where has the time gone?!)

    I know that I have a copy of 'Illusions' somewhere...............or,...do I?!..or is it just an illusion?!..lol

    I seem to recall, in the hard copy of 'JLS' that there was a strange illusion that I percieved when looking at the illustrations.

    On each page, one can see the image of next, then a vauge image of next.
    When turning page, similar, but 'moved forward'


    I recall disscusing this with a few peeps, they had not noticed it. Prob intentional, 'like life'?!....lol (we get one glimpse of the gig saw, then another etc)

    So thanks for the nudge!!
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    Rosa Koire: U.N. Agenda 21.

    The planet have given you all that you have !
    What do you give in return ?
    Be the change you wish to see.

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    Agenda 21 is real and is happening now. Agenda 21 is also the rationale for codex alimentarius which is designed to make nutrients and vitamins controlled substances. They are trying to stop the Amish from trading milk and cheese between them. Agenda 21 is going to lead to a distopic "Soylent Green" kind of existence. If you have never seen this movie you need to check it out.


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    Quote Posted by Revlin John (here)
    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I believe the agenda is to head us on a path to the future based on the current understandings of science. That way, old power structures will remain in place. No one will question the need for the consolidation of power and the regimenting of our lives based on today's technologies. And once power is firmly, unequivocably, in their grasp maybe they will allow a bit of the advanced technologies to trickle into our lives. But by then it will be too late to do much about it.
    ...
    Right on, Ernie.

    I think that stage of the game happened in the last century, in the aftermath of WW2.
    Soldiers came home (in the U.S.) to a hyper-industrialized society whose technocratic masters had already prepared robot/slave working orders.
    Of course no one thought of themselves as a slave thanks to the "trickle-down" affluence afforded by the process of accumulating more and more cheap tech.
    Unfortunately the real technology was creeping in, automating repetitive jobs that had once been performed by human beings.
    It reached the level in the 70s and 80s that if an actual slave, with slave quality-of-life and life expectancy wasn't doing the work, then it was cheaper to "invest" in the automation. For those managers who could not afford the investment, Asia and Central America would happily provide real slaves.
    It took all of those developments for consumers in the U.S. to begin to get the big picture: You are being replaced. The technocracy (NWO to most Avaloners) no longer needs your services and will therefore be shutting down its baby-sitting operations.

    For a midway historical perspective and commentary on this trend, please see "The Making of a Counter-Culture" by Theodore Roszak


    We need a new base for "production" of "goods". The managers, the 1%, are not going to give up control of the technology, the information or the globally distributed factory floors. NOR SHOULD WE WANT THEM TO. Such resources are only usable in a technocratic (NWO) state where all ethical concerns are subordinate to the chief concern of power and control.
    Even if the 99% took over the iphone factories in China and removed the consumer tracking firmware, are we willing to continue shipping around the world with giant diesel cargo shops which are, at the present time, the No1 source of air (and sea) pollution on the planet?

    We have to start fresh. Not from ground zero, but FRESH.
    Before action, we need new VISIONS.
    Thrive, Zeitgeist (via Venus Project), and other such fair are presenting Visions of a world to be created. I agree that these presentations have been limited, fear-based, and ultimately impotent. So...

    Let's build a better one.

    Who wants to start?
    Great writing yes people need to start doing it for them selves and help oneanother !

    The sayning think global and act lokal is well put.
    People need to come together and work together and on gras root level.

    Today we have a situation with some people having a lots of land and they just cant cope with it all and THE PROFIT is not comming in and they then try to sell the land and the thing is THERE IS NO ONE TO BYE because all are in the same situation.
    If they start to share the land or why not invite others to create self sustainable systems and work on it together it might work fine.

    I am wraping my mind arround lokal exchange systems and was very inspired by this film the other week.

    http://<a href="http://www.youtube.c...re=related</a>







    We are facing many changes and how are we going to cope with it.
    If we do not take our life in our hands and the response and do what we need to do, then we will be in the mercy of those that have planed all for us.

    I have done what I can do to make little inpact on the planet !

    I am ready to share and give my point of seeing at things.
    I have knowledge to share about how to grow your own food and I hope that someone will give some land to us so we can create a eco willage and it will be a center to learn how to be self sustanable with food water recykling grow food, save seeds and so on.

    My idea is that it would not cost money and if one works as you learn you will also earn credits (lokal money) that can be used to buy products from the system.

    If I could I would have started yester day !

    I just like to ad I do not belive that the global warming is what they say it is ... its a scam to make money on it.

    But we need to change, and the change is YOU.

    I did a test for fun the other day and I think all should do it makes you think....

    What is your foot print ?

    http://www.myfootprint.org/
    The planet have given you all that you have !
    What do you give in return ?
    Be the change you wish to see.

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    Quote Posted by Maria Stade (here)
    [ and a recognized teacher of Re-evaluation Counseling, which promotes the discharge of internal distress and resolution of rigid, patterned thinking as primary routes towards the emergence of healthy, intelligent human cultures.
    This is the part that disturbs me
    this is a man who has dedicated his life to mind control
    and reprogramming

    this is a man who thinks he is better than you
    and has the right to interfere with your destiny
    and that of your children

    Agenda 21 has big plans for changing our society
    though reprograming and new laws

    What agenda 21 really is
    is a new religion
    the church of Gia
    all is done for Gia

    And religions have the stench of
    politicians
    all those bishops in the catholic church
    all those priests
    they are really politicians

    because real spiritual people
    cant be bothered with all that crap
    all the politics
    all the power plays
    all the repression and mind control
    the implementation of fear
    based on lies

    so the new church of Gia
    called Agenda 21 is all about politics
    and we also know that politics is about money
    making money for the politicians
    off the backs and ignorance of the masses

    Their plan is to save us from ourselves
    as they get rich
    as they take away water rights
    and control of land

    as they move rural people off into cities
    into designated areas for humans

    they have a plan to create wildlife reufuges
    in strips arcoss the continents
    from north to south
    all those people will have to go
    their land, their worth, their dream
    their inheritance, their purpose
    to be taken and given as sacrifice to the new church

    the Church of Gia -- Agenda 21

    No spiritual person would stand for it
    no spiriutal person would support
    mass indoctrination in schools in churchs in the press

    No spiritual person can do this

    to brainwash, to legislate the loss of freedom
    to brainwash children
    no spiritual person would do it.

    So these people of Agenda are not true spiritual people
    they are fakes,
    they say it is for our earth
    they say is is for sustainability
    they say it will be good for us

    but just think of what they will have to do
    to implement it

    they are fascist in the making
    right before your very eyes
    here they come

    I know they have an eye on my land
    on my home
    I live above one of the largest natural water systems on the continent
    they will want me gone.
    they will not want my children to inherit my land
    they have plans for a nice condo on the coast for us.
    as my land above this aquafur is deemed sacred space
    and i am not worthy of sacred space
    I could not possibly be a caretaker
    and I know nothing of sacred space with water
    for I have not submitted to the brainwashing
    So they will want to move me and thousands
    upon thousands of others
    and not just here in the USA
    but all around the planet they have this plan
    there is a plan for you too.

    And you know,
    those who are not brainwashed
    will not want to go
    what to do then?
    wait it out till we all die?
    wait it out and hope
    that they can brainwash our children?

    Like smallpox was to native americans
    start thinking outside the box
    think Germs, Guns, and steel
    think morgellons, lyme, micoplasma
    think cancer

    Perhaps this is karma coming at us all
    for what the westernizwd mind
    and westernized power
    has done to native peoples

    perhaps this is the debt that we must pay?

    I think not.
    This is not evolution
    this is just more de-evolution
    into false belief systems
    and mind control
    mind control that I have struggled my whole life against
    mind control that I have taught my children to resist

    This will necessitate the destruction of our constitution
    what little there is left of it.
    our constitution will become a dead historical document
    our nation will be gone
    and it will be a one world government
    dictated by those who are expert brainwashers
    by those who have guns and military power once again
    in the NATO and United Nations forces.

    Plan your treason early and plan it well.

    Ron Paul where are you?
    Last edited by Arrowwind; 13th February 2012 at 18:44.

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    Thank you Arrowwind !
    They do not know the word secret and has transformed the laguage of spiritual people to suite their purpose the are not spiritual even that is a scam.
    The false teatchers and gurus and saviors have many faces.

    And yes they have created a situation so they can get their dirty hands on land and water is with no dought the next big money thing.

    People must work together and stand their ground.
    They are pirates and rob who ever they can, psychopats as they are, and for a long time they have been mind controlled to do this, as a part of the bigger plan.

    Do not take their "help" do not work with them, they are not needed in any way.
    The planet have given you all that you have !
    What do you give in return ?
    Be the change you wish to see.

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