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    I believe the agenda is to head us on a path to the future based on the current understandings of science. That way, old power structures will remain in place. No one will question the need for the consolidation of power and the regimenting of our lives based on today's technologies. And once power is firmly, unequivocably, in their grasp maybe they will allow a bit of the advanced technologies to trickle into our lives. But by then it will be too late to do much about it.
    ...
    Right on, Ernie.

    I think that stage of the game happened in the last century, in the aftermath of WW2.
    Soldiers came home (in the U.S.) to a hyper-industrialized society whose technocratic masters had already prepared robot/slave working orders.
    Of course no one thought of themselves as a slave thanks to the "trickle-down" affluence afforded by the process of accumulating more and more cheap tech.
    Unfortunately the real technology was creeping in, automating repetitive jobs that had once been performed by human beings.
    It reached the level in the 70s and 80s that if an actual slave, with slave quality-of-life and life expectancy wasn't doing the work, then it was cheaper to "invest" in the automation. For those managers who could not afford the investment, Asia and Central America would happily provide real slaves.
    It took all of those developments for consumers in the U.S. to begin to get the big picture: You are being replaced. The technocracy (NWO to most Avaloners) no longer needs your services and will therefore be shutting down its baby-sitting operations.

    For a midway historical perspective and commentary on this trend, please see "The Making of a Counter-Culture" by Theodore Roszak


    We need a new base for "production" of "goods". The managers, the 1%, are not going to give up control of the technology, the information or the globally distributed factory floors. NOR SHOULD WE WANT THEM TO. Such resources are only usable in a technocratic (NWO) state where all ethical concerns are subordinate to the chief concern of power and control.
    Even if the 99% took over the iphone factories in China and removed the consumer tracking firmware, are we willing to continue shipping around the world with giant diesel cargo shops which are, at the present time, the No1 source of air (and sea) pollution on the planet?

    We have to start fresh. Not from ground zero, but FRESH.
    Before action, we need new VISIONS.
    Thrive, Zeitgeist (via Venus Project), and other such fair are presenting Visions of a world to be created. I agree that these presentations have been limited, fear-based, and ultimately impotent. So...

    Let's build a better one.

    Who wants to start?
    Great writing yes people need to start doing it for them selves and help oneanother !

    The sayning think global and act lokal is well put.
    People need to come together and work together and on gras root level.

    Today we have a situation with some people having a lots of land and they just cant cope with it all and THE PROFIT is not comming in and they then try to sell the land and the thing is THERE IS NO ONE TO BYE because all are in the same situation.
    If they start to share the land or why not invite others to create self sustainable systems and work on it together it might work fine.

    I am wraping my mind arround lokal exchange systems and was very inspired by this film the other week.

    http://<a href="http://www.youtube.c...re=related</a>







    We are facing many changes and how are we going to cope with it.
    If we do not take our life in our hands and the response and do what we need to do, then we will be in the mercy of those that have planed all for us.

    I have done what I can do to make little inpact on the planet !

    I am ready to share and give my point of seeing at things.
    I have knowledge to share about how to grow your own food and I hope that someone will give some land to us so we can create a eco willage and it will be a center to learn how to be self sustanable with food water recykling grow food, save seeds and so on.

    My idea is that it would not cost money and if one works as you learn you will also earn credits (lokal money) that can be used to buy products from the system.

    If I could I would have started yester day !

    I just like to ad I do not belive that the global warming is what they say it is ... its a scam to make money on it.

    But we need to change, and the change is YOU.

    I did a test for fun the other day and I think all should do it makes you think....

    What is your foot print ?

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    Quote Posted by Maria Stade (here)
    [ and a recognized teacher of Re-evaluation Counseling, which promotes the discharge of internal distress and resolution of rigid, patterned thinking as primary routes towards the emergence of healthy, intelligent human cultures.
    This is the part that disturbs me
    this is a man who has dedicated his life to mind control
    and reprogramming

    this is a man who thinks he is better than you
    and has the right to interfere with your destiny
    and that of your children

    Agenda 21 has big plans for changing our society
    though reprograming and new laws

    What agenda 21 really is
    is a new religion
    the church of Gia
    all is done for Gia

    And religions have the stench of
    politicians
    all those bishops in the catholic church
    all those priests
    they are really politicians

    because real spiritual people
    cant be bothered with all that crap
    all the politics
    all the power plays
    all the repression and mind control
    the implementation of fear
    based on lies

    so the new church of Gia
    called Agenda 21 is all about politics
    and we also know that politics is about money
    making money for the politicians
    off the backs and ignorance of the masses

    Their plan is to save us from ourselves
    as they get rich
    as they take away water rights
    and control of land

    as they move rural people off into cities
    into designated areas for humans

    they have a plan to create wildlife reufuges
    in strips arcoss the continents
    from north to south
    all those people will have to go
    their land, their worth, their dream
    their inheritance, their purpose
    to be taken and given as sacrifice to the new church

    the Church of Gia -- Agenda 21

    No spiritual person would stand for it
    no spiriutal person would support
    mass indoctrination in schools in churchs in the press

    No spiritual person can do this

    to brainwash, to legislate the loss of freedom
    to brainwash children
    no spiritual person would do it.

    So these people of Agenda are not true spiritual people
    they are fakes,
    they say it is for our earth
    they say is is for sustainability
    they say it will be good for us

    but just think of what they will have to do
    to implement it

    they are fascist in the making
    right before your very eyes
    here they come

    I know they have an eye on my land
    on my home
    I live above one of the largest natural water systems on the continent
    they will want me gone.
    they will not want my children to inherit my land
    they have plans for a nice condo on the coast for us.
    as my land above this aquafur is deemed sacred space
    and i am not worthy of sacred space
    I could not possibly be a caretaker
    and I know nothing of sacred space with water
    for I have not submitted to the brainwashing
    So they will want to move me and thousands
    upon thousands of others
    and not just here in the USA
    but all around the planet they have this plan
    there is a plan for you too.

    And you know,
    those who are not brainwashed
    will not want to go
    what to do then?
    wait it out till we all die?
    wait it out and hope
    that they can brainwash our children?

    Like smallpox was to native americans
    start thinking outside the box
    think Germs, Guns, and steel
    think morgellons, lyme, micoplasma
    think cancer

    Perhaps this is karma coming at us all
    for what the westernizwd mind
    and westernized power
    has done to native peoples

    perhaps this is the debt that we must pay?

    I think not.
    This is not evolution
    this is just more de-evolution
    into false belief systems
    and mind control
    mind control that I have struggled my whole life against
    mind control that I have taught my children to resist

    This will necessitate the destruction of our constitution
    what little there is left of it.
    our constitution will become a dead historical document
    our nation will be gone
    and it will be a one world government
    dictated by those who are expert brainwashers
    by those who have guns and military power once again
    in the NATO and United Nations forces.

    Plan your treason early and plan it well.

    Ron Paul where are you?
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    Thank you Arrowwind !
    They do not know the word secret and has transformed the laguage of spiritual people to suite their purpose the are not spiritual even that is a scam.
    The false teatchers and gurus and saviors have many faces.

    And yes they have created a situation so they can get their dirty hands on land and water is with no dought the next big money thing.

    People must work together and stand their ground.
    They are pirates and rob who ever they can, psychopats as they are, and for a long time they have been mind controlled to do this, as a part of the bigger plan.

    Do not take their "help" do not work with them, they are not needed in any way.
    The planet have given you all that you have !
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    Steps for depopulation to Agenda 21?

    1. WWIII for starters.
    2. Chemtrailing, but with very strong biological agents, and it appears:
    3. Guillotines (with FEMA coffins that are being stacked in plain sight)?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwes6...eature=related
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    Steps for depopulation to Agenda 21?

    1. WWIII for starters.
    2. Chemtrailing, but with very strong biological agents, and it appears:
    3. Guillotines (with FEMA coffins that are being stacked in plain sight)?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwes6...eature=related
    I have seen the coffins but I must say Guillotines seem to be a slow way to kill people and a lot of work LOL they can only be effective if they like to scare others with them.

    It would be easyer to just put poison in cocacola or in other canned drinks !

    Sorry I dont think guilliotines will be the mass killing equipment !
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    Agenda 21 is real and is happening now. Agenda 21 is also the rationale for codex alimentarius which is designed to make nutrients and vitamins controlled substances. They are trying to stop the Amish from trading milk and cheese between them. Agenda 21 is going to lead to a distopic "Soylent Green" kind of existence. If you have never seen this movie you need to check it out.

    Thank you I have seen the film now it was a horrible future vision.
    And yes agenda 21 is in a way a bit like that but what I can se is that chosen people will bread, and all will be chipped at birth and controlled by the chip.
    Most people will have no sex drive and will not mate and te chip will stimulate emotional reactions and so on.
    And then they will have the controll that they are crawing to create.

    The Amish people is and will be a important suorce of knowledge in basic living and growing and so on.
    They have a lot to learn the world.
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    Quote Posted by Maria Stade (here)
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    Agenda 21 is real and is happening now. Agenda 21 is also the rationale for codex alimentarius which is designed to make nutrients and vitamins controlled substances. They are trying to stop the Amish from trading milk and cheese between them. Agenda 21 is going to lead to a distopic "Soylent Green" kind of existence. If you have never seen this movie you need to check it out.

    Thank you I have seen the film now it was a horrible future vision.
    And yes agenda 21 is in a way a bit like that but what I can se is that chosen people will bread, and all will be chipped at birth and controlled by the chip.
    Most people will have no sex drive and will not mate and te chip will stimulate emotional reactions and so on.
    And then they will have the controll that they are crawing to create.

    The Amish people is and will be a important suorce of knowledge in basic living and growing and so on.
    They have a lot to learn the world.
    Your movie of the future would be "Logans Run." Another futuristic Sci-fi from the seventies. Everyone gets sacrificed at 30 when the chip in their hand starts blinking red.


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    and on the other hand, if we do not as individuals, as communities and as states endeavor towards sustainability and make strides forward, they will use our lack of movement as justification for imposition of Agenda 21

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    Quote Posted by Maria Stade (here)
    Quote Posted by EnergyGardener (here)
    Steps for depopulation to Agenda 21?

    1. WWIII for starters.
    2. Chemtrailing, but with very strong biological agents, and it appears:
    3. Guillotines (with FEMA coffins that are being stacked in plain sight)?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwes6...eature=related
    I have seen the coffins but I must say Guillotines seem to be a slow way to kill people and a lot of work LOL they can only be effective if they like to scare others with them.

    It would be easyer to just put poison in cocacola or in other canned drinks !

    Sorry I dont think guilliotines will be the mass killing equipment !
    I am not sure why you are sorry; it certainly wasn't my idea.

    If I have anything to do with it, nothing will be the mass killing equipment.
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    agenda 21 is just this : getting people, locally, to organize THEMSELVES toward sustainable development.. I see people like to fantasize.. no need really.. As good as it sounds, agenda 21 has nothing to do with depopulation... get your facts straight instead of deliberately insinuating fear and evil where there is no need... This is highly disruptive and serves no purpose at all... except your imagination.
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    The problem with agenda 21 is that it is a plan made by elite for others. Like the FDA, the USDA and the CDC, local jurisdiction is lost as the rules and laws are created for its implementation on people who have had no hand in creating it.... and look at the WTO while your at it. Beware. it is part of the formula for a one world government, which has been the intent of the the United Nations since its inception. They like to decide who will live and die. Just look to Rowanda. They turned their backs on those people during this planned genocide. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/714025.stm

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    Well, the way agenda 21 is being implemented today doesn't reflect that at all. In my area I see many local initiatives that are in accordance with it and that do benefit people locally. There has been no legislation formulated from foreign institution that are being implemented. It is local actions, that go in the way of sustainable development, nothing less, nothing more.

    What happened in Rwanda has nothing to do with agenda 21.
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    Quote Posted by EnergyGardener (here)
    Quote Posted by Maria Stade (here)
    Quote Posted by EnergyGardener (here)
    Steps for depopulation to Agenda 21?

    1. WWIII for starters.
    2. Chemtrailing, but with very strong biological agents, and it appears:
    3. Guillotines (with FEMA coffins that are being stacked in plain sight)?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwes6...eature=related
    I have seen the coffins but I must say Guillotines seem to be a slow way to kill people and a lot of work LOL they can only be effective if they like to scare others with them.

    It would be easyer to just put poison in cocacola or in other canned drinks !

    Sorry I dont think guilliotines will be the mass killing equipment !
    I am not sure why you are sorry; it certainly wasn't my idea.

    If I have anything to do with it, nothing will be the mass killing equipment.
    No not your idea and compared with other modern metods it would be slow and horrific.
    Mass killing equipments are already in use but they are LEGAL some in wars and other are more hidden and kills slowly by the sickness they cause.
    I also wish that all that would stop once and forever.

    There are other ways to keep population down, education is one way.
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    The transition movement is also a scam
    Here is some reading for those that realy like to know what is going on.

    Klick on the image to the left !

    http://www.solution.gfc.uk.net/

    Download and spread.
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    I really appreciated your research Maria.
    One of the reasons I am a member here is because of the members who look behind the curtain and see who the puppeteers are.
    Research and evidence beats flowery words, innuendo and fabrication every time.
    Please consider this a bump as I missed it when it was first posted and view it of interest.
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    Pan, here is a link to The green energy scam, if you missed that too.LOL

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-energy-scam--


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    hmmmm.... a friend told me about 'Thrive' a couple of weeks ago -- this is just a purely subjective reaction, i know -- but the instant i heard the word 'Thrive' from him, my hackles went up --

    i always try to trace the source of any such reactions in myself -- the best i can do w/this one is that i have heard the word 'thrive' during one or more of my abductions, & i did not like the way it was being used/its context

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    Many countries and people outside of the USA and partners of USA support Agenda 21 for the following reasons:

    We want clean water and don't want industry (and even people in informal settlements) dumping pollution into our waterways.
    We want clean air and don't want industry, cars, fires from informal settlements, and so on filling our air with pollution. We want to breathe fresh clean air and see the stars.
    We want healthy soil in which to grow our food, so we don't want industry and agriculture polluting the earth.
    We want to live without garbage and seeping sewage in our streets, and ever-growing mountains of waste dumps filling our landscape.

    And so on.

    As you can see, poverty and environmental degradation are linked, but so are corporate greed (the wealthiest nation on Earth creates the most pollution and defends its right to do so).

    Each to his own, but unfortunately some kinds of pollution do have global effects (e.g. contanimation of imported food) and so global dialogue and agreements must continue. I would love to say that if the USA and Europe want to continue polluting their countries with impunity then they are free to live with their garbage, but these very same countries have huge military power and have shown that they will reduce to dust any other country that is against their national interests (which includes polluting other countries - Bill Ryan tried to highlight this here on Project Avalon). We do not have the military power to protect ourselves so we try to engage in global organisations and agreements and try to talk for Mother Earth and a clean environment for ourselves and our children. Global organisations and agreements are our only protection, albeit very flimsy protection.

    Another reason why we support these organisations and treaties is because they provide a forum for dialogue and sharing; e.g. my country often finds inspiration from South American countries in fiinding new and novel ways to deal with poverty and the environment.
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    Default Re: The goal of Agenda 21

    i like the so-called 'grass roots ' gatherings myself -- the ones that the massmedia seldom reports

    there are many many people working together in little groups doing things like Wade Frazier is doing all over the Planet -- i assume a lot of them will make the Shift

    what the big guys at the head of the pyramidical & hierarchical power structure are doing -- their various little highly-publicized get-togethers -- i'm not really interested in that -- all dog & pony shows as far as i'm concerned

    your planet is being nuked....

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