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    let the Bible speak

    to inform and explore what the Book says about our origin history and purpose


    i am convinced that the Creator or rather Projector is the Source and Sustenance of the Creation or Projection

    and furthermore that this Almighty Spirit interferes and intervenes with His world whenever He wants

    which is probably much more often than we think


    i believe the Bible paints a true if not complete picture about our Creator in this Age

    and the Book tells us that mankind has an Adversary who is a finite fallen spirit

    and that this fallen spirit is 'the god of this age'



    "In whom the god of this age hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." - 2 Corinthians 4:4

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    If only the bible included all the original text (there are over 48 books missing/are very condensed) like the "missing years of Jesus", "psalms of Sodom", etc. Notice how no books are written by women in the bible. Also in the bible gods create man in less than a paragraph, so I am sure there was a book about that. So your 'bible' was edited severely in 400AD when they made the one book for the whole Roman empire to have one simple religion. So most of the spiritual connection has only limited description and so is separate so people can never understand it and have to look to priest's and bishops for this knowledge.

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    Quote Posted by Apex (here)
    If only the bible included all the original text (there are over 48 books missing/are very condensed) like the "missing years of Jesus", "psalms of Sodom", etc. Notice how no books are written by women in the bible.

    So your 'bible' was edited severely in 400AD when they made the one book for the whole Roman empire to have one simple religion.
    the Bible is a Big book composed of several smaller books and there is nothing wrong in reading and researching the books that didn't make it into Canon

    but the important 'red thread' in the Bible is Jesus Christ


    i am sure there are also books authored by the Adversary to cast doubts and confusion and i am confident that none of them made it into Canon

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    The Bible is very selective. It is not the pure word of God. The men who wrote it expounded their own belief systems and incorporated them into the works. Thus, there's only so much that can be trusted in the Holy Book.

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    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    The Bible is very selective. It is not the pure word of God. The men who wrote it expounded their own belief systems and incorporated them into the works. Thus, there's only so much that can be trusted in the Holy Book.
    the Bible is a written recollection and a record of events as witnessed by those who wrote it

    the point is that we should not rest in the trust of book knowledge but seek Him whom the Book speaks about

    The Spirit Almighty

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    It's all about the Sun and our solar system. The bible is a very special book but it is not meant to be taken literally. I know saying that will ruffle some feathers . I get that. Reading that would have made me upset many years ago. The truth is sometimes a bitter pill to swallow, but it always sets you free in the end.

    But hey no worries, it's just my opinion.




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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    The Bible is very selective. It is not the pure word of God. The men who wrote it expounded their own belief systems and incorporated them into the works. Thus, there's only so much that can be trusted in the Holy Book.
    the Bible is a written recollection and a record of events as witnessed by those who wrote it

    the point is that we should not rest in the trust of book knowledge but seek Him whom the Book speaks about

    The Spirit Almighty
    What is funny, is that not one included gospel is written by an eyewitness, but those not included were written by eyewitnesses.
    And FYI, I doubt that your wordsmithery and general evasion of questions is helping your cause.

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    What is funny, is that not one included gospel is written by an eyewitness, but those not included were written by eyewitnesses.
    the author of the gospel of Mark was Mark the Evangelist - the companion of the apostle Peter - according to tradition and the early church fathers

    the author of the gospel of Matthew was the apostle Matthew - the tax-collector and disciple of Jesus - according to tradition and the early church fathers

    the author of the gospel of Luke and Acts was Luke the Evangelist - the companion of the Apostle Paul - according to tradition and the early church fathers

    the author of the gospel of John was 'the disciple whom Jesus loved' - John 20:2 and he was none other than the the Apostle John

    most if not all the letters of Paul was written by Paul himself and nobody argues this


    i could go on and on but it's not my point to convince those who have made up their mind

    for them no amount of evidence will change their believes


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    And FYI, I doubt that your wordsmithery and general evasion of questions is helping your cause.
    im sorry but i can't care less what you think about me or my words

    i find joy in sharing truth for truth's own sake for truth shall set us free

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    According to someone I trust who was a priest, no, they are not the authors.
    How could they have written them if they were not written until around 100 years after jesus was meant to have left?
    And your lack of care is at odds with what you claim you are and stand for.

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    Quote Posted by Loveisall21 (here)
    It's all about the Sun and our solar system. The bible is a very special book but it is not meant to be taken literally. I know saying that will ruffle some feathers . I get that. Reading that would have made me upset many years ago. The truth is sometimes a bitter pill to swallow, but it always sets you free in the end.
    im sure the Bible speaks on several levels but you have formed this opinion by trusting men

    or perhaps wolves in sheeps clothing


    the establishment decides what we will think and so supress truths and propagate lies

    we cannot longer distinguish truth from false without the Spirit of Truth guiding us

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    According to someone I trust who was a priest, no, they are not the authors.
    How could they have written them if they were not written until around 100 years after jesus was meant to have left?
    And your lack of care is at odds with what you claim you are and stand for.
    i dont see how you can put your trust in modern men living 2000 years after the events


    there is no date on the scrolls which make up the Bible so it is just a modern guess as to when they were written down

    but remember the establishment is against the Christ and the Bible


    i care about you but i dont care what you think of me

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    According to someone I trust who was a priest, no, they are not the authors.
    How could they have written them if they were not written until around 100 years after jesus was meant to have left?
    And your lack of care is at odds with what you claim you are and stand for.
    i dont see how you can put your trust in modern men living 2000 years after the events


    there is no date on the scrolls which make up the Bible so it is just a modern guess as to when they were written down

    but remember the establishment is against the Christ and the Bible


    i care about you but i dont care what you think of me
    Well, I don't know how they date the writings, as I never cared enough to find out.
    But, knowing my friend and how thorough he is, he checks everything out.
    He told me that the church knows far more than they are allowed to say.
    And no, the establishment isn't against your bible or your jesus, they ARE the establishment, or haven't you noticed?

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    i am sure there are also books authored by the Adversary to cast doubts and confusion and i am confident that none of them made it into Canon
    But surely a book that is comprised mostly of "the good bits" can't be trusted or relied on, never mind the fact that it's been the foundation of a major religion for the past 2000 years...

    The concept is comparable to having a book on Hitler that only mentions stuff like he didn't eat meat, he was kind to his mum and he liked cats....
    "Stop getting Bond wrong!" (Alan Partridge)

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    What I have pondered on many times is what time span does the bible cover. I believe the world was probably "created" in 6 periods days I don't think is right. As for a creator of all things I do think the Earth can create with out the help, maybe hindrance of and outside force. As for the book its self a very good guide but like all written words can be interpreted by the individual as they see fit.
    If you wish to believe in a creator of all things then fair enough but the excuse we have free will, when asked why the creator does not do more for the suffering of his/her/its children is wearing a little thin.

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    I wonder, what is the original language of the "original bible"? Please think about it...
    If we understand the original one, there wont be any confusing things such as "the 6 peroids days" thing, etc.
    ----"They have consigned them to be second-class citizens."---
    ::: If "it" is from the god, It should be best seller :::
    Laugh *hahaha and be silent after it

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    What the Bible is teaching is what you need to do to get it right only its teachings has been hijacked by the church and turned it in to a religion. And since Religion is a replacement for relationship it will not get you in to the kingdom of heaven!

    Most of everything I have been reseaching is releated back to the bible, but because of many closed minded Christians who have been led by the church a stray. Does with a closed mind rejected the truth when it presented in other form then what is written right in front of them in the Bible.
    Does Luke Warm Christian claim they can see when they are blind!!

    I also know that some things don't belong in the Bible and some thing are left out ,because of the works of the Vatican.
    But like I said If you try to have a relationship with jezus Christ(Yeshua) true the holy spirit(GOD) you will be showen what is true and what is realy written in the Bible.

    Because god is love and he can't lie ,but if you do not have this relationship and your not willing then you will get the half trued which leads you where you do not want to go!!

    I know A lot of people being turned away from the word "Sinner", but it simple means NO LOVE. If you have no Love in you then it is the spirit of fear and fear leads to addictions because thats what it is.
    Then you realize that DRUGS ,ALCOHOL,SEX,PORN,COMPUTER GAMES, TV and all does other thing of this world has NO LOVE in it.

    Thats why the saying is If you love the things of this world then the LOVE of GOD is not in you. "Love the things of this world"=Addictions

    The next step "Jezus Christ died for our sins" Well now we know what is written here, its because we had NO LOVE in us we nailed him to the cross. Because we hated the truth!
    Then you start to understand what you realy are reading. We killed him ,because we did not knew what we where doing. Only small groupe of people knew what was going on ,but they could not do anything about it. Because of Free will!

    Forgive them for they do not know what there doing!
    Last edited by Mu2143; 18th November 2011 at 10:02.
    The truth is to talk about what really exist and not the Illusion
    How would a Angel in the flesh behave?
    How can you overcome your negative emotions?
    How do you become unconditional love?
    What is righteousness?
    What is the difference between the tree of knowledge of Good & Evil VS Word Of God?

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    Man, i'm addicted to god, but i just can't follow books. What now?
    All this talk here is completely superfluous.
    That said, i's 'leaving the building'.

    Good luck on your mission.

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    "Love the things of this world"=Addictions

    The next step "Jezus Christ died for our sins" Well now we know what is written here, its because we had NO LOVE in us we nailed him to the cross. Because we hated the truth!
    Then you start to understand what you realy are reading. We killed him ,because we did not knew what we where doing. Only small groupe of people knew what was going on ,but they could not do anything about it. Because of Free will!

    Forgive them for they do not know what there doing!
    Love the things of this world is not the same with or equal to (=) addictions.
    He died for our sin? Really?
    Babies that haven't born already have sin then. and I born after many years He died, and He died because of my sin.
    Ummm, maybe i'm wrong here, sorry...
    But, I didn't kill Him. I'm honest in saying that.
    Which are the one that is close minded anyway? the christians? or the people? or maybe you?
    no offense
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    Let us just be fair in observation and see that everything in this reality is hijacked.
    Bible is a s hijacked as other works from God were. God worked and works through many forms and people ,God can't be limited but we are limiting it towards our understanding and through our filters.

    How could a shepherd or fisherman from some thousands years ago explain frequencies, teleportation,telekinesis , telepathy ...?

    What Ezekiel saw ... how possibly he could grasp what he was seeing???

    Why angels appeared as humans - otherwise they would never comprehend their true form in that low level of consciousness.

    So many questions... but before we judge so readily the Bible as well as many other books and works ,let us realize that we will judge ourselves for after all we allowed that establishment through time to become as it is now.

    They forged every work that leads people back to God but that didn't stop God for calling us back.
    God is still calling us back and Bible is one of the many invitations for the core message is intact.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Quote Posted by TruseEthker (here)
    Quote Posted by Mu2143 (here)
    "Love the things of this world"=Addictions

    The next step "Jezus Christ died for our sins" Well now we know what is written here, its because we had NO LOVE in us we nailed him to the cross. Because we hated the truth!
    Then you start to understand what you realy are reading. We killed him ,because we did not knew what we where doing. Only small groupe of people knew what was going on ,but they could not do anything about it. Because of Free will!

    Forgive them for they do not know what there doing!
    Love the things of this world is not the same with or equal to (=) addictions.
    He died for our sin? Really?
    Babies that haven't born already have sin then. and I born after many years He died, and He died because of my sin.
    Ummm, maybe i'm wrong here, sorry...
    But, I didn't kill Him. I'm honest in saying that.
    Which are the one that is close minded anyway? the christians? or the people? or maybe you?
    no offense
    I forgot to tell that the cause of our sin is because every person on the planet is demon possessed. The all seeing eye is the colective conscienceness of lucifer. Thats how we have build this civilization true demons without we nowing it. Because we do not now what we are doing.
    Everyone on this planet is demon inspired and does the works of satan unless you have been saved from this.

    Its like unpluging out of the Matrix like in that movie then your set free only your stilll in this world.
    And you are thinking saving you from what , well what you can't see what is realy there.
    There demons every where

    I suggested to check out this site
    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJonathankleck?gl=US#g/u
    Last edited by Mu2143; 18th November 2011 at 10:58.
    The truth is to talk about what really exist and not the Illusion
    How would a Angel in the flesh behave?
    How can you overcome your negative emotions?
    How do you become unconditional love?
    What is righteousness?
    What is the difference between the tree of knowledge of Good & Evil VS Word Of God?

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