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    the top of this page (84) reminds me of a small nonsense,

    observing fragments , souls are set to observe a single mechanism,

    no single observation is to be taken for the dogma of being what the thing in itself is , yet there is preponderance to do this,


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    Beren [quoted]: Proofs from Bible that man is one with God when united in spirit.

    Red: but i am not disputing that Beren


    what i'm saying

    is that those who receive

    Jesus as God and Savior


    XX - will not vanish nor become God

    YY - but be glorified and inherit eternal lives

    together with Jesus


    me: would we really be able to distinguish between XX and YY if it were to happen, would not both happen. (also Beren may not have really be referring to how Red translated the concept in XX)

    &
    grip vs red in #1671, .. facts may be disputed, but an internal reality is still the real reality as for that person, ...in this case, for 1, ..point irrelevant, it is an inspired work as for a reference frame for us on the outside to know wha-t all other outputs are based on

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    The Bible theme from cover to cover is "He that is joined to the Lord is one spirit" (1 Cor. 6:17) - no more duality, just perfect one-ness in this spiritual relationship. This is what it means to be in Christ!
    ~ If nothing changes then nothing changes ~

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    there are testimonies from people today who have visited Heaven

    like what the apostle Paul spoke about


    It is doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord:

    I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a one was caught up to the third heaven.

    And I know such a man--whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows--

    how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. - 2 Corinthians 12:4




    they say Heaven is accessible here and now

    to those who trust Jesus and have received His Holy spirit


    what these testimonies tell is that the inhabitants in Heaven are so refined and fine-tuned to the Spirit of the Father

    that they act in accordance with His will

    like the most natural thing in the world




    here is a beautiful testimony

    from one who got a glimpse of Paradise



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    are you angry

    when i write

    that the position of God is taken


    is it not a God complex

    an epitome of ego

    and pinnacle of pride


    to think that one is or will become God ?


    remember the devil and Adam and Eve

    and please consider learning from their mistakes


    the position of God is taken

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    God did not send His Son to save Christians


    do not limit Christ by putting Him into a Christian box or context

    we can ignore Christianity but we cannot ignore Christ


    no matter what we think

    Hindu Muslim Buddhist Jew

    it doesn't matter


    the Son of God is returning

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    Proofs from Bible that man is one with God when united in spirit.

    I Corinthians 1

    4I always thank God for you because Christ Jesus has shown you God’s good will. 5 Through Christ Jesus you have become rich in every way—in speech and knowledge of every kind. 6 Our message about Christ has been verified among you. 7 Therefore, you don’t lack any gift as you wait eagerly for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed. 8 He will continue to give you strength until the end so that no one can accuse you of anything on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 God faithfully keeps his promises. He called you to be partners with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.


    26 Brothers and sisters, consider what you were when God called you to be Christians. Not many of you were wise from a human point of view. You were not in powerful positions or in the upper social classes. 27 But God chose what the world considers nonsense to put wise people to shame. God chose what the world considers weak to put what is strong to shame. 28 God chose what the world considers ordinary and what it despises—what it considers to be nothing—in order to destroy what it considers to be something. 29 As a result, no one can brag in God’s presence. 30 You are partners with Christ Jesus because of God. Jesus has become our wisdom sent from God, our righteousness, our holiness, and our ransom from sin. 31 As Scripture says, “Whoever brags must brag about what the Lord has done.”

    Second chapter:


    10God has revealed those things to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches everything, especially the deep things of God. 11 After all, who knows everything about a person except that person’s own spirit? In the same way, no one has known everything about God except God’s Spirit. 12 Now, we didn’t receive the spirit that belongs to the world. Instead, we received the Spirit who comes from God so that we could know the things which God has freely given us. 13 We don’t speak about these things using teachings that are based on intellectual arguments like people do. Instead, we use the Spirit’s teachings. We explain spiritual things to those who have the Spirit.[b]
    14 A person who isn’t spiritual doesn’t accept the teachings of God’s Spirit. He thinks they’re nonsense. He can’t understand them because a person must be spiritual to evaluate them. 15 Spiritual people evaluate everything but are subject to no one’s evaluation.
    16 “Who has known the mind of the Lord
    so that he can teach him?”

    However, we have the mind of Christ.








    Just connect the dots. Answers are all there.
    By having Christ`s mind ,we are able to understand God as our Father or Creator.

    No one else can in its entirety.
    But whom God gives the spirit?

    I explained this earlier in previous post.


    Beren, my brother.......


    You are so right in your analysis of being......"one with God".


    Here's another passage where Jesus was "prophetically speaking" about the day when we, believers, and Him would be "one",....and that we would also "undeniably know it, too"!


    John 14:20
    King James Version (KJV)

    20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.




    Love and Peace,.......your servant.........kreagle
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    Quote 1 John 2:6 (KJV)

    6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

    ( Obedience to Acts 2:38 enables us to 'spiritually' walk down our own personal pathway to Calvary with our own personal Cross!)

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)

    Key part in all this is what Horizons,Kreagle and RedeZra has pointed out in some of their posts- Holy spirit.
    Without it - it`s not possible to understand what Bible is for and how to use this tool of God.


    Same is with Bible.
    No holy spirit by God- no understanding.


    dear Beren


    the Bible is not a mystery that is to be solved

    but an inspired preserved and protected work and word of God


    the Book spells out what we need to do to receive the Holy spirit

    so no secrets there

    and the point of the Spirit of God is not to reveal the deeper things in the Bible

    but to guide us into Heaven

    RedeZra,


    I'd like for you to "prayerfully" take......."another look"........at the statement that you have made here.


    Quote and the point of the Spirit of God is not to reveal the deeper things in the Bible
    The "actual" point of the Spirit of God is to,....INDEED.....reveal, to us, the deeper things in the Bible. It "must be noted',....that at "no time" does God desire for His "children" to be......."kept in the dark"! As the "newborn child of God" begins to develop after being "filled with the Holy Ghost",.....the Spirit, will indeed, take you into the "mysterious hidden areas of His Word",.....that the "natural man" cannot perceive and understand.


    Once received,....the Spirit of God,......will "immediately begin" to......."take you down Biblical roadways that you've never been down before!" There's no reason to be "frightened", though,...for your "Teacher" will be right there with you!!


    John 16:13
    King James Version (KJV)

    13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.



    In connection with this "brand new experience" of being "filled with the Holy Ghost",....you are going to find out that "you have suddenly developed an insatiable desire to",....not only "eat", the Word,.....BUT......to literally "devour the Word" of God! (note......I promise,.....you WILL be "hungry",.....for His Word!!!)


    A "few" passages to ponder.......


    2 Timothy 2:15
    King James Version (KJV)

    15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


    (It should be noted, that, "if" the Spirit of God does not "reveal" here,......then we are not going to be able to "rightly divide", (interpret),....what we are reading in the Word,....and consequently we are not going to be "approved of God",....but left rather "ashamed"!)


    Psalm 119:10-12
    King James Version (KJV)

    10 With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments.

    11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

    12 Blessed art thou, O Lord: teach me thy statutes.


    Also......

    Proverbs 4:23
    King James Version (KJV)

    23 Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life
    .


    (After we have completed our "studies", of the Word,.....we are then going to required to "store it"!,.....and where?,....."in our heart"!!! This is the "only place" that the "Word of God" is going to be able to "do us any good",......and keep us from sinning against Him!! It is "imperative" for mankind to get the Word of God, the Bible,...off of the pages,.....and into the "heart",.....and "hide" it there,...in storage"!)


    Finally, RedeZra....

    Why in the world would the Spirit of God,....not reveal......the "deeper things in the Bible?"

    Are not the "deeper things in the Bible",....there so we can "use them" against our enemy, Satan?

    What "other purpose" would the "deeper things in the Bible" serve,.....if not for His children to utilize and be victorious? Do you think that God only used them in an effort to be a "filler",.....to fill in some "extra blank pages" and make the Book look bigger?


    (side note......you are "completely right, RedeZra"......in that......the Spirit of God will help "guide us to Heaven",.......AND......reveal the deeper things in the Bible,...also!!!)


    Quote do you think God would like us to dive deep into His book or come Home ?
    Answer:......"Both,...my friend,...both!"

    The "deeper we dive into His Word",.....and hide It in our heart,.....the "odds" go up tremendously,...in our favor,......to be able to finally..."come Home"!


    God Bless you, brother!................kreagle
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    Quote 1 John 2:6 (KJV)

    6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

    ( Obedience to Acts 2:38 enables us to 'spiritually' walk down our own personal pathway to Calvary with our own personal Cross!)

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    Quote Posted by kreagle (here)
    RedeZra,


    I'd like for you to "prayerfully" take......."another look"........at the statement that you have made here.


    Quote and the point of the Spirit of God is not to reveal the deeper things in the Bible
    The "actual" point of the Spirit of God is to,....INDEED.....reveal, to us, the deeper things in the Bible. It "must be noted',....that at "no time" does God desire for His "children" to be......."kept in the dark"! As the "newborn child of God" begins to develop after being "filled with the Holy Ghost",.....the Spirit, will indeed, take you into the "mysterious hidden areas of His Word",.....that the "natural man" cannot perceive and understand.


    dear Kreagle


    the point of the Spirit of God is to save us

    and so secure our eternal inheritance


    God did not send His Son

    to make us bible experts nor exorcists

    but to save us with His Spirit


    the rest is just a bonus



    "Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

    "Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice because your names are written in heaven." - Luke 10:19-20
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    the Spirit of God do not turn us into God


    we can say we are one with God

    or that God is acting through us


    but we do not become God


    Jesus was God from the beginning

    and did not turn into God or anything


    He always was is and will be God
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    the Spirit of God do not contradict the Bible

    but open our eyes to the depth behind the basics


    God is not going to spell out the details of His plan to the devil

    so some things are sealed up and not known to anybody


    until the Spirit of God reveal it to His servants the saints

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    Jesus taught truths healed the sick fed the poor

    and also exorcised demons


    today we are not told about the devil and his demons

    and so they got a good advantage over us


    when we don't even know we have an enemy

    then how can we win


    how can we not loose to an opponent

    whom we think doesn't even exist


    there is a saying

    if you have never met the devil in the road of life

    then you're probably heading in the same direction



    so know your foe but most importantly know your friend



    Be sober, be vigilant; your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. - 1 Peter 5:8
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    dear souls


    Satan has spawned an intricate web of sweet lies since Adam and Eve

    and so it is not possible to not step on his web


    God do not lie

    He sent His Son to destroy the doctrines of the devil

    and shed His blood to atone for our sins


    And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission. - Hebrews 9:22


    this is a law of God like gravity


    God established a Constitution for our human organisation here on earth

    The Ten Commandments


    the price for breaking them is death and then hell

    do not be deceived

    the Son of God who is God

    took our punishment upon Himself and so sanctified us through His blood


    so we don't have to go to hell


    dear souls

    there are only two destinations

    after death


    i beg you please seek the Mercy of Jesus now before it is too late
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    "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. - John 3:16


    God gave His Son to the whole world

    so why do we have all these religions


    is it beyond the slyness of satan to instigate religions and philosophies

    or do you think he has a good grasp on the concept of controlled opposition and divide and conquer ?


    there must be an explanation why we have all these religions

    or did the devil tell you they all lead to God ?

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    souls do you see

    God got our salvation through Jesus

    just like He says


    Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. - John 14:6


    this is not a figure of speech an allegory or a metaphor

    but extremely literal



    when Jesus was asked by an expert in the law of Moses

    Teacher what shall I do to inherit eternal life ?


    Jesus answered with a question

    well what is written in the law ?


    So he answered and said, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,' and 'your neighbor as yourself.' "

    And He said to him, "You have answered rightly; do this and you will live." - Luke 10:27-28




    the expert in the law of Moses was quoting this verse from Scripture

    "You shall love Yahweh your Elohim with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength. - Deuteronomy 6:5


    Jesus is just the English word for the Hebrew Yahushua

    which means Yahweh Is Salvation


    Jesus is God

    so if we got another

    then we are worshiping an idol

    and not God


    Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. - John 14:6

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    it is not about

    Christian Muslim Hindu Buddhist Jew

    but being born again

    by the Spirit of God

    in the Name of Jesus


    the so-called enlightened are not born again by the Spirit of God

    but probably possessed by powerful God wannabe spirits


    when we nurture ideas about being God

    then that is perfect playground for these wannabees

    who will take over control of our soul
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    do you think Jesus thinks it a small thing

    when we run after other gods or idols


    think about what He did and had to endure

    and this is how we thank Him


    His heart would break if He was not God

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    the Spirit of God do not turn us into God


    we can say we are one with God

    or that God is acting through us


    but we do not become God


    Jesus was God from the beginning

    and did not turn into God or anything


    He always was is and will be God
    That bible you get all your answers from says god created us and we are part of him. If that's truthfull then we ARE gods because we are him. That book says he created everything with his spoken word.If that's true he THOUGHT before he spoke and turned his THOUGHTS into tangible reality. Every single human posseses the power to turn thought into tangible reality, therefore that makes me just as powerful and an equeal to him not beneath him. Therefore I FEAR NOTHING includeing DEATH, and nobody or no thing has power and control of me. I am pure conscious awareness in human form at this point in time, upon death my consciousness will return to the universe where it came from.- This whole thread is a constant chicken /egg dillema and a waste of my time and energy because until you realize the universe couldn't exist without conscious awareness, and conscious awareness couldn't exist without the universe. Just like the chicken and the egg, one can't exist without the other, or without conscious awareness. Until the time that humanity becomes fully aware of these facts, ignorance will continue to run rampidly out of control......Rob

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    Find out what "I am" is and you will find/be the way.
    The eternal question pointed to by sages for thousands of years---- ask your self Who/what am I?
    Chris
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Quote Posted by crested-duck (here)
    That bible you get all your answers from says god created us and we are part of him. If that's truthfull then we ARE gods because we are him. That book says he created everything with his spoken word.If that's true he THOUGHT before he spoke and turned his THOUGHTS into tangible reality. Every single human posseses the power to turn thought into tangible reality, therefore that makes me just as powerful and an equeal to him not beneath him.

    try as you may to produce a sun or some food just by thinking about it

    if you can't then why do you think you are as powerful or an equal to God

    do not confuse confidence with ego and pride


    Jesus is God

    so when we don't follow Him nor His teachings

    then we are not following God

    but just fooling ourselves


    there are two paths in life and two destinations after death

    and God has given us the way the truth and the life to reach His kingdom



    Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

    "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him."

    Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us."

    Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? - John 14:6-9







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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Find out what "I am" is and you will find/be the way.
    The eternal question pointed to by sages for thousands of years---- ask your self Who/what am I?
    Chris

    this what the sages say

    but the saints say seek Jesus

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    the father of lies said to Eve

    in the Garden of Eden


    you will be like God


    this lie from the father of lies

    is so sweet it still finds fertile soil in our souls

    but it is a lie

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