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    @redeZa..
    please can you answer a few of my questions?

    1 / have you seen the documentary that Jesus lived and died in India at the age of 115?
    2 / Jesus said that he would come like a thief in the night, that no one will know the hour, How do you then say he will return in a few years?
    3 / Are you in contact with Jesus whom told you of his return in a few years?
    4 / Have you read the gospel of Mary Magdalene?
    5 / Have you read any of the gospels not in your bible?
    6/ What do you mean we don't have the time? are you saying it's all too late?
    Too late for what? please explain..

    Thank you for your time..
    Bless k

    it is not easy to discern the truths from the lies about Jesus so the moment we venture out of what is written in the Bible

    we will come across much dubious information about Him


    therefore stick to the Bible or better yet make contact with Him


    Yes Jesus said that no one knows the day or hour of His return

    but this is actually a big clue for the Feast of Trumpets


    it is the 5th of the Seven Feasts of Israel

    and no man knows the day or hour of it

    it is known as the feast that no man knows the day or hour of


    because it is the only one which arrives on the first day of the Hebrew lunar month and so it may follow the 29th or the 30th of the previous month depending on whether the moon is sighted on the 29th or not

    so those who have eyes to see and ears to hear do know the day and the hour


    as for the year

    it is a Jubilee from when the Jews captured Jerusalem

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    @ red..
    you're not making any sense.. Jesus said no man knows the day or hour of his return, do we agree?
    But you said.. quote.. so those who have eyes to see and ears to hear do know the day and the hour.

    Can you please explain this to me? Either no one knows or as you suggest some of us with eyes and ears do know. which one is true?
    Please do a bit more research and look beyond the bible. I understand that the bible is your way of life and to you it hold all truths.
    Please answer the following question..

    In the beginning was the word, the word was God. who uttered the word God?

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    interesting they used englishmen to transcribe hebrew instead of a hebrew transcribing it in english ??? hmmm what was it they didn't want us to know ??? in the original hebrew greek and chaladean it has 50 different meanings for one word. I suggest a strongs concordance to put it in the original language... I want to read the unauthorized KING james VERSION.
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    @ red..
    you're not making any sense.. Jesus said no man knows the day or hour of his return, do we agree?
    But you said.. quote.. so those who have eyes to see and ears to hear do know the day and the hour.

    In the beginning was the word, the word was God. who uttered the word God?

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    He was in the beginning with God.

    All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

    In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. - John 1:1-4



    John is speaking about Jesus

    not the Man but the Spirit

    the Creative Heart of God

    Adonai Elohim

    the Second Person of the Trinity

    who was named Yeshua in Hebrew or Jesus in English

    which means Salvation



    take a look at my post about Jesus and the 7 Jewish Feasts

    and see that Jesus fulfilled the 4 first Feasts in His first coming


    His return will be on the 5th Feast which is the Feast of Trumpets

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    the Watchman


    but if the watchman

    sees the sword coming

    and does not blow the trumpet

    and the people are not warned

    and the sword comes and takes

    any person from among them

    he is taken away in his iniquity

    but his blood will I require

    at the watchman's hand


    - Ezekiel 33:6 -







    be still

    and know

    that


    I AM


    the Way

    the Truth

    and the Life







    I AM

    the Resurrection

    and the Life
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    I'm not sure about blowing the trumpets. But i'm banking on you to blow the whistle if you see Jesus..

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    I'm not sure about blowing the trumpets. But i'm banking on you to blow the whistle if you see Jesus..
    Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed [are] those who have not seen and [yet] have believed." - John 20:29

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    I'm not sure about blowing the trumpets. But i'm banking on you to blow the whistle if you see Jesus..
    Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed [are] those who have not seen and [yet] have believed." - John 20:29
    So that makes you bless and me not. ( I did once) But don't worry, for we shall all see his arrival. then we will all be blessed.

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    It must be the Corporate Money Beast Greed God on Wall Street and DC.

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    I'm not sure about blowing the trumpets. But i'm banking on you to blow the whistle if you see Jesus..
    Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed [are] those who have not seen and [yet] have believed." - John 20:29
    So that makes you bless and me not. ( I did once) But don't worry, for we shall all see his arrival. then we will all be blessed.
    i think you have misread me my dear Kersley

    i can bless you a thousand times if u want


    and yes every eye will see Him


    Blessings to you times thousands ; )

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    It must be the Corporate Money Beast Greed God on Wall Street and DC.
    you sir just don't make any sense

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    that's my King





    i wonder if you know Him




    Adonai





    Lord of Eternity

    the Mystery behind the Veil
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    and only those who have received the Holy Spirit can do the works of Jesus
    Red you have a habit of not answering when asked a question.
    I will word it differently for you.
    Where does Jesus ever say that he is God ?
    i'm a bit zen i know

    but Jesus is God yes no doubt about it

    i got millions of testimonies to back it up besides He says so Himself



    Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us."

    Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? - John 14:8-9
    Hi Red. If i look at any off my brothers and sisters i see all of creation. If i met you Red and looked at you i would see the creator through you. Just like the plants and animals and the earth and the stars in heaven above.

    This is a question i asked you in another thread. WHO IS JESUS'S FATHER ?? We know that Joseph was his earthly adopted father, But who is his blood father,When Jesus speaks of his father is he speaking of Yahwey ?? I have my own theory Red but i would like to hear your answer to this question.

    I also want to let you know that you will never see or read of me bringing Jesus down, I have had a beautiful relationship with Jesus sinse i was a child. But my relationship was not brought about through any religion or church. It is a very personal relationship. And he has shown me that the bible has had many lies and disinfo planted within it. But many truths are there also. And discerning the truths from the lies is a mission on its own. But can be done.

    It was the church that made Jesus into God. It was not Jesus. You also will do what i do, and even greater things. " JESUS'S OWN WORDS" If Jesus is God, how on earth is anyone going to do greater things than God. Please answer

    Blessings and peace be with you
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    and only those who have received the Holy Spirit can do the works of Jesus
    Out of interest and knowing that you are well read on many spiritual traditions RedeZra---- Is Kundalini awakening the same (under a different name) as receiving the Holy Spirit?

    Chris

    good question Chris and yes i think so

    because Spirit is The Unified Being the Great I AM

    lying dormant and potential within everything

    but still active and actual in God
    Kundalini rises from within. Through meditating on all the meridian points or chakra points within the body, You have to work on the Kundalini, The Holy Spirit decends from above. The Holy Spirit is a gift from God, Two completely different things. The Holy Spirit Decended in the form of a dove when John the Baptist baptised Jesus with water.
    When you express from a fearful heart in the now moment, You create a fearful future.
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    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future. Billyji


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    WHO IS JESUS'S FATHER ?? We know that Joseph was his earthly adopted father, But who is his blood father,When Jesus speaks of his father is he speaking of Yahwey ??


    Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." - John 8:58


    according to Ron Wyatt the Blood of Jesus has only the Y chromosome from the Father which gave Him maleness which only fathers can give

    so Jesus got all His DNA from Mary and had no earthly father





    Yeshua means little Yahweh so i'll leave it that



    Quote Posted by billyji (here)
    If Jesus is God, how on earth is anyone going to do greater things than God. Please answer
    Jesus was talking about His beloved Apostles

    when He would send the Holy spirit to them at Pentecost

    the Apostles would be filled with the Spirit of God to do the works of God

    as in God working through them


    Blessings Billyji

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    Kundalini rises from within. Through meditating on all the meridian points or chakra points within the body, You have to work on the Kundalini, The Holy Spirit decends from above. The Holy Spirit is a gift from God, Two completely different things.
    right the Holy Spirit is a gift from God to guide us into all truths

    and as you know the truth will set us free


    i am not Kundalini awake so i cannot say if there is any difference in how the personality experiences

    God Awareness

    between an awake Kundalini and the burning Spirit of God

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    Hi everyone. This is a great thread and one I am very interested in. I appreciate everyone's input on it.

    Red, I guess this is more of a question for you but of course everyone can respond with his/her thoughts.

    My question is about the "divine" word of the Bible. Of course the bible has been rewritten and retranslated many times over, but there are some lessons and sayings that remain in each of these. One of these is quoted below. I do not understand how any all-loving, all-powerful God could allow this type of thought into his masterpiece called the Bible. Is this not the ultimate hypocrisy? Perhaps I have missed something so please let me know your thoughts.

    Leviticus 25:44-46: "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly." (NIV)
    Leviticus 25:48-53: "After that he is sold he may be redeemed again; one of his brethren may redeem him: Either his uncle, or his uncle's son, may redeem him, or any that is nigh of kin unto him of his family may redeem him; or if he be able, he may redeem himself. And he shall reckon with him that bought him from the year that he was sold to him unto the year of jubilee: and the price of his sale shall be according unto the number of years, according to the time of an hired servant shall it be with him."

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    and only those who have received the Holy Spirit can do the works of Jesus
    Out of interest and knowing that you are well read on many spiritual traditions RedeZra---- Is Kundalini awakening the same (under a different name) as receiving the Holy Spirit?

    Chris

    good question Chris and yes i think so

    because Spirit is The Unified Being the Great I AM

    lying dormant and potential within everything

    but still active and actual in God
    Hi

    Kundalini rises from within. Through meditating on all the meridian points or chakra points within the body, You have to work on the Kundalini, The Holy Spirit decends from above. The Holy Spirit is a gift from God, Two completely different things. The Holy Spirit Decended in the form of a dove when John the Baptist baptised Jesus with water.
    Hi Billyj
    you are partly correct.
    Kundalini arose within me about ten years ago--- spontaneously.
    I had no idea what was happening to me and frankly it was scary
    I had never heard of Kundalini.
    You cant make it happen though you can work on the chakras to make it easier.
    It is a gift from God and comes with responsibilities ie shiddhis.
    On speaking with a friend he advised going to India to the ashram related to the link below.
    I did and had shaktipat from the God realised guru (Dr Goels) that settled it down.
    You can not control Kundalini that is a vanity to even think that.
    Guruji said--- When Kundalini is awakened you are going home in the taxi driven by Shakti--- Home being enlightenment, freedom from ignorance, realizing Oneness with God, you true Self.
    You are not in control of your life then (were you ever?)

    Its a very deep subject but there are similarities to the Holy Spirit as you can read from the paste below.

    The first sign of K awakening for me, was energy flowing into the crown--- intense itching, then the body started to rotate all by itself.
    Then bliss states as k moved up the spine. It would go so far then stop, eventually it moved up and over to the third eye.
    Its in its final stages but not complete.

    Chris

    Ps out of interest as a precursor I could hear birds in my head--- definitely not tinnitus.
    Quote from link.

    "Salutations to the Mother Kundalini the Divine Cosmic Energy! You are present in every existing being. You are the supreme knowledge, maya, intellect, memory and delusion. O Devi! You are the mind, the sky, the air, the fire, the water and the earth. Nothing is outside You. You are the Shakti of Shiva. Your Own blissful conscious form gives the shape of the world.

    Kundalini Yoga is the most archaic form of spiritual sadhana practiced by Indian sages and saints to achieve Oneness with the Supreme Reality. Kundalini, the serpent power or mystic fire, is the primordial energy that lies sleeping or in dormant state at the base of the spinal column in all human beings. It is also the cosmic power in individual bodies. It is the spiritual potential of cosmic power. It has no form. But the mind has to follow a particular form in its initial stage. From this grosss form, one can easily understand the subtle formless Kundalini. Prana, ahamkar, buddhi, indriya, mind, nerves and all the five gross elements are all products of Kundalini.

    http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/d...-views-IDK142/
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    Interestingly Dr David Hawkins who's teaching have helped me greatly said in essence.
    "Jesus was a Divine incarnation and this was his first life here. the other realized souls like the Buddha had previous human incarnations so Jesus was totally unique."
    Though even he had to start as a seeming ordinary human.

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    WHO IS JESUS'S FATHER ?? We know that Joseph was his earthly adopted father, But who is his blood father,When Jesus speaks of his father is he speaking of Yahwey ??


    Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." - John 8:58



    according to Ron Wyatt the Blood of Jesus has only the Y chromosome from the Father which gave Him maleness which only fathers can give

    so Jesus got all His DNA from Mary and had no earthly father





    Yeshua means little Yahweh so i'll leave it that
    So you say Jesus's Father was Yahwey. The "I AM" or the "I will be who i will be" in the time of Moses on the mount, OK i agree. But Yahwey was and is not the creator of all that is. He was one of the many Elohim Gods that walked with man.
    I will watch the video later, but i take it that this is this mans theory as we have no DNA from Jesus to confirm his theory,



    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    Quote Posted by billyji (here)
    If Jesus is God, how on earth is anyone going to do greater things than God. Please answer
    Jesus was talking about His beloved Apostles

    when He would send the Holy spirit to them at Pentecost

    the Apostles would be filled with the Spirit of God to do the works of God

    as in God working through them


    Blessings Billyji
    It is said that Jesus healed the sick
    Brought the dead back to life
    walked on water
    transformed water into wine
    Fed 5000 from five loaves and fishes
    Died and ressurected and walked and talked to many after his death
    Ascended into heaven
    And much more.
    None of the beloved apostles done any of those things apart from healing, and after pentecost they were able to speak to many people from different countries and they all understood the words in their own tongue. So they did not do as Jesus had done and even greater things. Jesus was speaking to future generations. A time to come.

    I am not trying to catch you out Red, Just wondering where your at.

    Peace
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    Hi everyone. This is a great thread and one I am very interested in. I appreciate everyone's input on it.

    Red, I guess this is more of a question for you but of course everyone can respond with his/her thoughts.

    I do not understand how any all-loving, all-powerful God could allow this type of thought into his masterpiece called the Bible. Is this not the ultimate hypocrisy? Perhaps I have missed something so please let me know your thoughts.

    hi Kano


    God gave Israel to the Israelites

    to serve God and steward the land


    because the Canaan culture who occupied it was into child sacrifice

    besides Canaan came from Ham who was alotted land in Africa and so was trespassing in the land which God eventually gave to a branch of Shem


    so if the non-Israelites in Israel did not like the rules of God of Israel

    they were free to move out of Israel


    the reason there were slaves back then is because they did not have a State which would look after everything from cradle to grave

    and so the poor offered themselves and their services for food and shelter
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