+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 28

Thread: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

  1. Link to Post #1
    Avalon Member Houman's Avatar
    Join Date
    31st March 2010
    Posts
    1,087
    Thanks
    869
    Thanked 8,107 times in 1,014 posts

    Default Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn
















    Sr Stranges


    "BEGIN QUOTE"
    When Dr. Stranges met his friend from the planet Venus for the
    first time in December, 1957, he was taken to a non-descript room in
    the Pentagon where he was greeted by a man who was about six feet
    tall, perhaps 185 pounds, brown wavy hair and brown eyes. His
    complexion appeared normal and slightly tanned. With a warm smile
    he extended his hand and greeted Stranges by name; "Hello, Frank.
    How are you?"

    As Dr. Stranges gripped his hand, he was somewhat surprised
    to feel the soft texture of his skin, "like that of a baby but with the
    strength of a man that silently testified to his power and intensity."
    He also noticed that Valiant Thor had no fingerprints and was told
    that all Earth people were thusly marked since the fall of Adam in the
    Garden of Eden, during the very dawn of civilization as we know it
    today.

    This was the beginning of a long friendship between the man
    from Earth and the man from Venus that continues to this very day.
    Dr. Stranges has met with Valiant Thor many times since 1957 and
    has been given some amazing information for his fellow inhabitants
    of this planet; that is for those who are willing to listen.

    Valiant Thor has told Dr. Stranges that there is life on many
    other planets of which people on Earth know nothing.

    "There are more solar systems for which man has not even
    given God credit," he said. "There are many beings that have never
    transgressed the perfect laws of God. Man does not possess the right
    to condemn the whole of God's creation because he himself has
    broken the perfect laws of God through disobedience."

    At one point Dr. Stranges asked Valiant Thor about the
    inhospitable conditions on the surface of Venus, noting that scientists
    have determined that the surface temperature reaches in excess of
    800 degrees Fahrenheit. Valiant Thor said that this was correct, but
    that the inhabitants of Venus actually live in the hollow interior of
    Venus, coming and going through openings at the North and South
    Poles; just as has been described in legends about the hollow Earth.


    "END QUOTE"

    Sources
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/7342591@N07/

    http://www.archive.org/stream/TimR.S...wartz_djvu.txt

    --------------------

    PS: I don't know how much of that story is info and how much is disinfo (there are inconsistencies and contradictions) but I find those pictures interesting.

    It would be interesting to interview Dr Colin Ross on the subject as this field appear to be
    tightly interwoven with various projects that he was aware of

    Houman

    Last edited by Houman; 20th November 2011 at 20:00.

  2. The Following 24 Users Say Thank You to Houman For This Post:

    A Voice from the Mountains (28th October 2014), apokalypse (5th August 2013), Atlas (16th September 2014), Bill Ryan (18th November 2012), Cidersomerset (19th November 2012), dan33 (7th May 2014), Daughter of Time (16th September 2014), Debra (14th April 2013), DNA (21st November 2011), eaglespirit (19th November 2012), Flash (5th August 2013), GalaxyHorse (16th August 2013), Gardener (18th February 2013), Hervé (19th November 2012), Jean-Luc (19th November 2012), jsb_swampfox (28th October 2014), karelia (20th November 2011), Limor Wolf (4th January 2012), mab777 (16th August 2013), Midnight Rambler (19th November 2012), mojo (20th November 2011), Sophocles (17th February 2013), The One (20th November 2011), ulli (16th August 2013)

  3. Link to Post #2
    Avalon Retired Member
    Join Date
    4th December 2010
    Location
    VT, USA
    Posts
    583
    Thanks
    1,098
    Thanked 1,434 times in 421 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    People from Venus? Yah, Right.

    Not so fast my friend. We think that once we have learned all we can about "1" that we know almost all we can about "2" because "2" is equal to "1" plus "1". We forget that we have yet to understand "plus".

  4. Link to Post #3
    United States Avalon Member mojo's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th February 2011
    Posts
    2,946
    Thanks
    16,113
    Thanked 16,915 times in 2,653 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Thanks for posting! I know Phillip Schneider mentioned Valiant Thor. I think he showed a pic in his vid of him and after I watched that vid I searched for info on Val. I wasn't to successful, so great job locating what you did. Do you by chance have a date on when Dr. Stranges did that video? I'm sure there is an amazing story in the pictures alone. Who are they? Were they important?

  5. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to mojo For This Post:

    Atlas (16th September 2014), Cidersomerset (19th November 2012), Debra (14th April 2013), DNA (21st November 2011), eaglespirit (19th November 2012), raregem (28th October 2014)

  6. Link to Post #4
    Avalon Member Houman's Avatar
    Join Date
    31st March 2010
    Posts
    1,087
    Thanks
    869
    Thanked 8,107 times in 1,014 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Thanks for posting! I know Phillip Schneider mentioned Valiant Thor. I think he showed a pic in his vid of him and after I watched that vid I searched for info on Val. I wasn't to successful, so great job locating what you did. Do you by chance have a date on when Dr. Stranges did that video? I'm sure there is an amazing story in the pictures alone. Who are they? Were they important?
    You are welcome. I don't know the date on the previous video but this one was taped on nov 2005

  7. The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Houman For This Post:

    angelichuman (21st September 2014), Bill Ryan (18th November 2012), Daughter of Time (16th September 2014), Debra (14th April 2013), DNA (21st November 2011), eaglespirit (19th November 2012), Flash (5th August 2013), Hervé (19th November 2012), Jean-Luc (19th November 2012), jjjones (21st November 2011), mojo (20th November 2011), The One (20th November 2011)

  8. Link to Post #5
    United States Avalon Member mojo's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th February 2011
    Posts
    2,946
    Thanks
    16,113
    Thanked 16,915 times in 2,653 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    I searched for the video that Phillip speaks on Val about, and it is worth listening if you havent heard it...cheers...
    At 2:44 in the video


  9. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to mojo For This Post:

    Atlas (16th September 2014), Bill Ryan (18th November 2012), Cidersomerset (19th November 2012), Debra (14th April 2013), DNA (21st November 2011), eaglespirit (19th November 2012), Hervé (19th November 2012), The One (20th November 2011), ulli (16th August 2013)

  10. Link to Post #6
    Avalon Member Houman's Avatar
    Join Date
    31st March 2010
    Posts
    1,087
    Thanks
    869
    Thanked 8,107 times in 1,014 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Yes, Bill Cooper also mentioned Val Thor.
    Cheers.

  11. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Houman For This Post:

    Bill Ryan (18th November 2012), Debra (14th April 2013), DNA (21st November 2011), eaglespirit (19th November 2012), mojo (18th November 2012)

  12. Link to Post #7
    Avalon Member Houman's Avatar
    Join Date
    31st March 2010
    Posts
    1,087
    Thanks
    869
    Thanked 8,107 times in 1,014 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn


  13. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Houman For This Post:

    Bill Ryan (18th November 2012), Debra (14th April 2013), DNA (21st November 2011), eaglespirit (19th November 2012), Hervé (19th November 2012), mojo (18th November 2012), Ulyse30 (20th September 2014)

  14. Link to Post #8
    Avalon Member Houman's Avatar
    Join Date
    31st March 2010
    Posts
    1,087
    Thanks
    869
    Thanked 8,107 times in 1,014 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    I searched for the video that Phillip speaks on Val about, and it is worth listening if you havent heard it...cheers...
    At 2:44 in the video
    According to Phil he is real, has 6 fingers, does not shake hands, lives in a bio-suit and is still around... this appears to contradict Dr Stranges' story...

  15. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Houman For This Post:

    Atlas (16th September 2014), Bill Ryan (18th November 2012), Debra (14th April 2013), DNA (21st November 2011), Hervé (19th November 2012), Jean-Luc (19th November 2012), Limor Wolf (4th January 2012), modwiz (19th November 2012), mojo (18th November 2012)

  16. Link to Post #9
    Avalon Member DNA's Avatar
    Join Date
    8th May 2011
    Location
    Snowflake, Arizona
    Age
    44
    Posts
    3,016
    Thanks
    16,069
    Thanked 13,759 times in 2,731 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    There is a strange correlation here. Billy meier mentions some folks known as the giza intelligence. Meier mentions these folks lived in two locations one was here on earth under the great pyramid in Egypt the the other being the moon ganymede. Contrast this with a ufo contact book titled " i visited ganymede". I really recommend this book. In the book the denizens of ganymede explain that they live under the surface and that they originally came from the now destroyed planet maldek, which is currently the asteroid belt. It seems that these venusian folks may be refugees from maldek as well.
    The conquering of self is truly greater than were one to conquer many worlds.
    Edgar Cayce

  17. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to DNA For This Post:

    Cidersomerset (19th November 2012), Debra (14th April 2013), mojo (18th November 2012)

  18. Link to Post #10
    Avalon Member TrumanCash's Avatar
    Join Date
    28th April 2012
    Location
    I am currently interfacing with a male biological body on the third rock from a star called "Sun".
    Posts
    712
    Thanks
    1,454
    Thanked 5,802 times in 682 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    I knew both Al Bielek and Phil Schneider (when they were traveling around together) and Al Bielek said he also met Val Thor.

    Truman

  19. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to TrumanCash For This Post:

    Bill Ryan (18th November 2012), Debra (14th April 2013), eaglespirit (19th November 2012), Hervé (19th November 2012), Houman (18th November 2012), Jean-Luc (19th November 2012), Kristo (19th November 2012), Midnight Rambler (19th November 2012), mojo (18th November 2012)

  20. Link to Post #11
    Avalon Member Houman's Avatar
    Join Date
    31st March 2010
    Posts
    1,087
    Thanks
    869
    Thanked 8,107 times in 1,014 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    I knew both Al Bielek and Phil Schneider (when they were traveling around together) and Al Bielek said he also met Val Thor.

    Truman
    Hi Truman,

    Good to hear from you I hope that all is well.
    Houman

  21. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Houman For This Post:

    Bill Ryan (18th November 2012), eaglespirit (19th November 2012), Jean-Luc (19th November 2012), mojo (18th November 2012)

  22. Link to Post #12
    United States Avalon Member mojo's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th February 2011
    Posts
    2,946
    Thanks
    16,113
    Thanked 16,915 times in 2,653 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Still a fascinating story and glad the thread got a bump. Do you recall what Al Bielek mentioned? That's a few people that say he is real now...any new info out on him?

  23. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mojo For This Post:

    Debra (14th April 2013), eaglespirit (19th November 2012)

  24. Link to Post #13
    Avalon Member TrumanCash's Avatar
    Join Date
    28th April 2012
    Location
    I am currently interfacing with a male biological body on the third rock from a star called "Sun".
    Posts
    712
    Thanks
    1,454
    Thanked 5,802 times in 682 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Hello, Houman. Yes, all is very well.

    I met and talked with Al Bielek and Phil Schneider on three different occasions back in the mid-90s. I don't recall what Al specifically said about Val Thor but I do remember asking Al why the picture of his "Val Thor" looked different than Stranges' "Val Thor". Al didn't have any answer and didn't seem to be aware of that.

    Perhaps there is a clear picture of Al's or Phil's "Val Thor" somewhere on the internet. The one that Phil shows in one of his videos is too fuzzy to discern the image.

    I got to listen to Al & Phil talk at a very small gathering of about six people in a small room. I neglected to bring a video camera and I am still kicking myself in the butt today about that because it was really something special. Phil opened his locked metal case with all the exotic metals, implant, pictures, etc and I got to handle them. Also, Phil and Al got into a conversation about Phil's invention that created some kind of energy beam. Phil threw something into the beam and it disappeared. Al talked in great detail about the electronics involved in the Philadelphia project. This was just shortly before Phil was murdered (and shortly after he had been shot in his left shoulder).

    Quote Posted by Houman (here)
    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    I knew both Al Bielek and Phil Schneider (when they were traveling around together) and Al Bielek said he also met Val Thor.

    Truman
    Hi Truman,

    Good to hear from you I hope that all is well.
    Houman

  25. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to TrumanCash For This Post:

    Atlas (16th September 2014), Debra (14th April 2013), eaglespirit (19th November 2012), Hervé (19th November 2012), Houman (19th November 2012), Jean-Luc (20th November 2012), Streamy (29th September 2016)

  26. Link to Post #14
    UK Avalon Member Cidersomerset's Avatar
    Join Date
    16th May 2011
    Location
    Bridgwater somerset UK
    Age
    56
    Posts
    18,603
    Thanks
    26,787
    Thanked 61,032 times in 15,083 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Re: Life spotted on Venus

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...otted-on-Venus

    A little more searching and I pulled up this video of some of the objects spoken of by the researcher in the original post.

    Leonid Ksanfomaliti of the Space Research Institute of Russia's Academy of Sciences published research that analyzed the photos from the Venus mission made by a Soviet landing probe, Venus-13, in 1982.
    The photos feature several objects, which Ksanfomaliti said, resembled "a disk," "a black flap" and "a scorpion." All of them "emerge, fluctuate and disappear," the scientist said, referring to their changing location on different photos and traces on the ground.





    Uploaded by Simmonique on 21 Jan 2012


    Leonid Ksanfomaliti of the Space Research Institute of Russia's Academy of Sciences published research that analyzed the photos from the Venus mission made by a Soviet landing probe, Venus-13, in 1982.
    The photos feature several objects, which Ksanfomaliti said, resembled "a disk," "a black flap" and "a scorpion." All of them "emerge, fluctuate and disappear," the scientist said, referring to their changing location on different photos and traces on the ground.
    "What if we forget about the current theories about the nonexistence of life on Venus, let's boldly suggest that the objects' morphological features would allow us to say that they are living," Solar System Research quoted Ksanfomaliti as saying.
    No data proving the existence of life on Venus, where the ground temperature is 464 degrees Celsius (867 degrees Fahrenheit), has ever been found.



    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Good find Mojo could be where John Lear got his idea for domed cities on venus.....




    The official NASA explanation is not much fun !!!

    Pancake domes on Venus

    . These seven volcanic domes were discovered in Magellan's radar images. They all have round shapes that are about 25 thousand meters across, and steep sides that are less than 750 meters high. Their central vents may be lined up along a crack in the surface. These domes are interpreted as very thick, stiff and sluggish lava flows, rather than the fluid and runny type. Eruptions of the pasty, viscous lava, coming from a central vent on a relatively level surface, would form the circular, flattened shapes that resemble giant pancakes. Since there is little or no erosion by wind or water on Venus, newer pancakes look much the same as the ones on which they are superimposed. (Courtesy of JPL and NASA.)





    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Re: Life spotted on Venus



    Just seen this article in Todays 24th jan 2012 ..Telegraph....

    Russian scientist claims 1982 pictures shows 'life on Venus'
    Leonid Ksanfomaliti, an eminent Russian scientist, has claimed to have discovered life in Venus in grainy photographs taken by a Soviet probe three decades ago.
    picture from the Venera 13 probe on Venus: Russian scientist claims 1982 pictures shows 'life on Venus'
    Russian scientist Leonid Ksanfomaliti suggested features in a picture from the Venera 13 probe on Venus implied life on the red planet Photo: L. Ksanfomaliti / Solar System Research

    7:00AM GMT 24 Jan 2012




    Prof Ksanfomaliti, from the Moscow-based Space Research Institute, analysed photographs taken by a Soviet probe that landed on the planet's surface.

    The 79 year-old claimed the pictures, taken by the probe Venus-13 in 1982, show a giant scorpion-styled insect that he claimed proved to life on the scorching second-closest planet to the sun.

    But the views of the member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, published in Solar System Research, have been cast into doubt.

    Experts say the features described as a disc and a scorpion appear to change locations from one photo to the next.

    Prof Ksanfomaliti said the images show a scorpion shaped body, a disc and a "black flap" which apparently move as the probe's camera records the scene.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...-on-Venus.html

    above link expired ?

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    John Lear says theres life on every planet in the universe and theres about 40
    planets....I don't know about that ? But with all the info/speculation about parrellel dimensions and earths. Why not parallel Moon,Venus, Mars , Jupitor etc ?


    Will the Real Planet Venus Please Stand Up!, page 1


    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread284985/pg1

    privacy


    Pages: << 1 2 3 4 >>
    ATS Members have flagged this thread 43 times

    Topic started on 31-5-2007 @ 12:37 AM by johnlear
    NASA describes Venus (based on their spacecraft’s findings and the findings of Russian spacecraft) as:

    At first glance, if Earth had a twin, it would be Venus. The two planets are similar in size, mass, composition, and distance from the Sun. But there the similarities end. Venus has no ocean. Venus is covered by thick, rapidly spinning clouds that trap surface heat, creating a scorched greenhouse-like world with temperatures hot enough to melt lead and pressure so intense that standing on Venus would feel like the pressure felt 900 meters deep in Earth's oceans. These clouds reflect sunlight in addition to trapping heat. Because Venus reflects so much sunlight, it is usually the brightest planet in the sky.

    Sulfur compounds, possibly attributable to volcanic activity, are abundant in Venus' clouds. The corrosive chemistry and dense, moving atmosphere cause significant surface weathering and erosion. Radar images of the surface show wind streaks and sand dunes.

    More than 1,000 volcanoes or volcanic centers larger than 20 kilometers (12 miles) in diameter dot the surface of Venus. Volcanic flows have produced long, sinuous channels extending for hundreds of kilometers.

    John Lear, however, begs to differ with NASA. Based on information John has accumulated, including data from George Adamski who was afforded a ‘bird’s eye view’ of Venus and several remote viewer friends of John’s he believes Venus is more like this:

    (The following are quotes from “Inside The Flying Saucers” by George Adamski):

    A beautiful planet similar to earth with seven oceans, all connected by waterways both natural and artificial. Magnificent mountains, some white-topped with snow, some barren and rocky, very similar to earth.

    There are many Venusian cities, some large, some small following a circular or oval pattern. The structures are beautiful, with no monotonous lines. Many had domes radiating in prismatic colors. At night the colors cease and the domes become luminous with a soft, yellowish light. There is much uninhabited territory.

    People on Venus are very similar to those on earth.

    Cars and buses used for transportation vary in size as do those on earth. The only difference is that they appear to ‘glide’ along the surface using an energy system much different from ours.

    The beaches on the lakes have sand that is very white and fine like on the finest beaches on earth.

    The tropical sections of Venus have vegetation similar to earth but are much lusher because of an atmosphere than is much more moist than earth. The people on Venus rarely see the stars as we do on earth because of the constant cloud cover.

    The following is based on information from friends of John’s who are remote viewers:

    Venus has a constant cloud cover which is a pale yellow color and the reflection makes the oceans and the lakes yellow in color.

    Now, based on NASA’s record of reporting, what sounds more plausible? The Venus described by NASA or the Venus described by John Lear (using George Adamski’s quotes, and descriptions from John’s remote viewer friends)?




    It is apparent from this newspaper article dated December 1, 1959 that Navy balloonist Malcom Ross, meteorologist Charles B. Moore and Dr. John Strong of Johns Hopkins University had not gotten the word from TPTB that Venus was full of exploding volcanoes enveloped in an atmosphere of sulphuric acid pushing down with a pressure equal to 900 meters deep in the ocean.

    Why the very idea of water vapor on Venus is ridiculous. They must have meant sulphuric acid water vapor? I mean how would they know anyhow from a balloon on earth about a planet many millions of miles away?

    And for Strong not to rule out the possibility of life on this deadly planet? I’ll betcha he’s doing time. Talk about denying ignorance?

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread284985/pg2
    Last edited by Cidersomerset; 19th November 2012 at 17:11.

  27. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Cidersomerset For This Post:

    A Voice from the Mountains (19th December 2014), Hervé (19th November 2012)

  28. Link to Post #15
    UK Avalon Member Cidersomerset's Avatar
    Join Date
    16th May 2011
    Location
    Bridgwater somerset UK
    Age
    56
    Posts
    18,603
    Thanks
    26,787
    Thanked 61,032 times in 15,083 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    I was looking for a recording of James Martinez talking about the Stargate project to do with Walter Bowarts work
    on operatin mind control....James is a good friend of Andrew Basiago another possible crononaught/ teleportation
    experiancer or mind control victim.???? Anyhow got side tracked...LOL.....



    Lots of info on this blog, i presume from Dr,Stranges Sources?

    母忘50sの外星接觸個案 - Dr. Frank E. Stranges with Valiant Thor From Venus
    Jan 12, 2010 9:35 PMPublicPageviews 490





    http://blog.yahoo.com/_HKEV5U7FKMM7I...rticles/218437





    UFOlogia Top Secret File

    TOP SECRET FILE
    http://www.burlingtonnews.net/venusians.html

    FORM INFRA D.I.P. PROJECT MARXEN UF088


    DEPARTMENT OF INTERPLANETARY AFFAIRS OFFICIAL DOCUMENT/TRANS ENVATE/PROJECT MARXEN data inclusive DE-CLASSIFIED JANUARY 1, 1989 1NEREN CLEARANCE BY S . E.
    MAR

    SUBJECT: U.F.O. AND REPORTED EXTRATERRESTRIAL ENCOUNTERS ON MAUI, HAWAII. JANUARY 1970 TO DECEMBER 1989 CLASSIFICATION: Formerly TOP SECRET U.F.O., E B.E., AND E.T. CELL] DATA AND OFFICIAL COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THIS AGENCY AND OFFICIALS FORMERLY OR ACTIVELY REPRESENTING THE UNITED NATIONS, MILITARY INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, AND THE N.A.S.A. SPACE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS CIVILIAN SCIENTIFIC U.F.O. INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEES AND NETWORKS AND THE FILES OF M.I.N.D. INTERNATIONAL.

    COMPILED BY S.E. MAR, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERPLANETARY AFFAIRS JANUARY THROUGH MAY 1972 AND IN 1990.


    EVIDENCE OF CIVILIZATION ON VENUS

    It is scientifically possible for material plane beings to live in an atmosphere on another planet, that is too hot or chemically fatal to Earth humans, by constructing underground air-conditioned bases or cities protected from the elements on the surface. It is also feasible to create air---conditioned domes on the surface of other planets that have artificial atmospheres exactly like on Earth, and American scientists admit they already have the technology and plans to create these bases on Mars and our Moon. Therefore extraterrestrials with the superior technology to create disc--shaped U.F.O.s, that are detailed in dozens of photos and documents in the U.S. Air Force released Project Bluebook files, could logically possess the advanced science to create such bases on the surface of the planet Venus.

    The physicists William Plummer and John Strong stated that Venus may have large areas of bearable temperatures. The regions near the Venusian north and south poles would be much cooler than the areas reportedly monitored by space probes. Furthermore, according to Professor Alexander Lebedinsky, in the Soviet Union, in data suppressed by the United States Pentagon complex, the usual surface temperature of much of Venus must be about 110 degrees Fahrenheit, even though "radio---electric" measurements indicated 700 or more degrees. Similar observations can be made on the relatively COOL surfaces of gas tubes used in neon signs, because the radio--electric equivalent of those tubes is also several thousand degrees!

    Furthermore, highly intelligent dolphins, with a brain capacity larger than the humans are underwater in an environment that would kill us humans very quickly without a dive suit and oxygen supply. These dolphins would also die within a half hour in our atmosphere, which is deadly to them! This proves that flesh and blood physical intelligent beings can live in an environment that would kill us and vice-versa! So how can so- called "experts" claim that intelligent life absolutely cannot live in another kind of an atmosphere on a different planet? Furthermore, 7,000 feet under the ocean in pressures that would instantly crush us humans without a heavy diving suit, biologists have found crabs, shrimps, snails, and worms living in 530 degrees F. temperatures, and large worms living in poisonous chemicals from vents erupting from the sea bottom. These creatures ate the deadly chemicals to live! (Honolulu Advertiser newspaper, June , 1990). This discovery proves that heat and pressures and chemicals that would kill us are perfectly livable to types of physical beings. So why couldn't creatures live on the surface of Venus, where the NASA space program officials who have misled the public about the truth of interplanetary spacecraft tell the public it is too hot for physical life with too heavy an atmosphere and dangerous gases?

    Why did a number of American orbiting spacecraft transmit data that Earth itself is too hot for human life with a deadly atmosphere, insufficient oxygen, and hostile elements, and then they expect us to believe their Venus probe data is accurate? Temperatures up to 180OF. have been recorded in Earth's ionosphere 180 miles up. Could it be that the NASA official temperature readings on Venus originated in the Venusian ionosphere.

    The temperatures given to the public from the American and the Soviet Venus probes contradicted each other by hundreds of degrees, and the temperatures given off by different American Venus rockets also were in conflict, proving all this data is very unreliable. If a probe orbiting Earth sent back a temperature reading of Alaska that was as conflicting as the Venus data, we could be told it was 200 degrees there in the ice!

    We were told that the atmosphere of Venus is over 100 times denser than Earth, so how would it be possible for a parachute to be used to slow the landing of the Venus craft, when in pressures that great the space rocket would FLOAT slowly to the surface without the need of a parachute like boats sink in an ocean? That pressure is like trying to parachute the spacecraft 2,000 feet to the bottom of the ocean! Why also did NASA contradict these releases by claiming that a parachute would not work on the moon Titan, because the atmosphere there(similar to Venus) is too dense(just like Venus). That data was in a press release December 12, 1980 with space expert James Murphy.

    When the Soviets landed their spacecraft Venera on the surface of Venus, it sent excellent photographs showing a bright landscape of hills and rocks, much like our deserts on Earth yet an atmosphere that dense was expected to produce photos of total darkness. How can Venus be mapped by radar in such a dense atmosphere, the equivalent of using radar to map the bottom of our oceans at a depth that is impossible?


    CANADIAN SCIENTISTS CONTACT VENUS
    Government Project

    In January 1972, the Department of Interplanetary Affairs was created, to research into the scientific investigation of UFOs and attempt to contact UFO occupants if possible. Extensive files on reports of UFO landings, sightings, and contacts in Hawaii were soon accumulated, and it was discovered that many UFO researchers desired our reports. We began to trade data, and were amazed when former officials of secret government and military intelligence agencies came to our office, and
    offered to trade us what THEY KNEW for what we knew. The information was often classified TOP SECRET and beyond, they admitted government and military UFO secrecy, and much of the information alarmed us then! Regardless of whether they came from NASA, were government commissioned civilian scientists, military pilots of intelligence agents, or from the United Nations, THEY ALL TOLD THE SAME SHOCKING DETAILS. There were no contradictions in these reports of alien bases on Earth, other planets, crashed retrieved saucers with bodies, and secret alien government contacts. And most of these informers, who wished to remain anonymous due to threats of assassination, fines, court marshals, or mysterious disappearance warned that we could get in big trouble for publicly releasing what they told us!

    In the early 1950s, the Canadian Government established PROJECT MAGNET to investigate UFOs. The director of that project, Wilburt B. Smith, publicly wrote that a top U.S. Pentagon official said that UFOs was the biggest secret they had, even greater than the H BOMB(the ultimate weapon then). We were able to obtain a copy of Wilburt B. Smith's research on Project Magnet.

    This research was so startling he could possibly have been assassinated for releasing it, so it was not available to us until he died. PROJECT MAGNET has been able to work with Canadian scientists who had continued working on inventions of Nikola Tesla, one of the most prominent scientists in history. Tesla, who invented the AC/DC electrical current, helped invent radar and much military technology, was the holder of hundreds of successful patented inventions. He had told some associates and friends he had invented an interplanetary communications device with ideas given to him by Venusians

    PROJECT MAGNET took Tesla seriously. This report details a formerly secret experimental UFO landing site built by the Canadian government during their attempts to contact UFOs their air force had monitored in the skies. Former Canadian Defense Minister, Paul Hellyear, later publicly admitted that project existed. However, he did not mention what Smith reported. the project had actually detected a real UFO with their scientific equipment, and later a scientific research group he directed established communications with a landed interplanetary ship from what their pilots said was Venus. Tesla's closest scientific assistant at one time, Arthur Matthews, was involved in this contact. The Project Magnet report added that Matthews had been trying to complete some of Tesla's incomplete inventions, when the Venusians helped him with instructions on finishing that work. The report also details several inventions the Venusians gave to Project Magnet through Dr. Matthews' committee, which were tested and worked perfectly. The Venusians were also seriously concerned about our environmental damage and danger from nuclear testing and fossil fuels, warned the government to try to stop these practices, and offered alternative non-polluting nearly-free energy systems that government leaders, kept in power by multi-billion dollar oil, gas, coal, and war industries all rejected for "Economic reasons."


    Continued on next page ( read more for detail.)

    http://blog.yahoo.com/_HKEV5U7FKMM7I...rticles/218437
    Last edited by Cidersomerset; 19th November 2012 at 17:41.

  29. The Following User Says Thank You to Cidersomerset For This Post:

    A Voice from the Mountains (19th December 2014)

  30. Link to Post #16
    UK Avalon Member Cidersomerset's Avatar
    Join Date
    16th May 2011
    Location
    Bridgwater somerset UK
    Age
    56
    Posts
    18,603
    Thanks
    26,787
    Thanked 61,032 times in 15,083 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    There is so much on mind control that anything seems possble after you have looked into it !!

    http://www.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/

    I was listening to last weeks cash flow with Bob Nevritt based in Maui today 7hrs long,
    James Martinez is usually on for the first couple hours .This is the last show of the current
    format. Bob played a personal session with himselfe his wife Dr.Carolyn Dean and Ion..
    We learn Ion is an enviroment and the universe is basically created from electricty not
    ordinary electricty but p ? something I'l have to relisten to it. Ion inhabits the cloud
    the ionic electrical enviroment that is everywhere.Our non-physical resides in the 'Guf' or
    heaven which we created when we descended to physical to experiance contrast and create
    as we cannot physically create in the non physical (ascened state , as our thoughts will
    instantly materialise whatever we desire in that reality, but it would not be physical)

    As everything is made from pure electricity, we are infact living in a maitrix, created
    by all our collective thoughts and unfullfilled dreams.Over the eons as there is no
    time we were experiancing a sort of reincarnation. When we passed over we either
    went to the Guf or transitioned to a parrellel world. ( All this is far more indepth than
    i'm writing here)

    The 'Guf' Heaven closed last year Ion did give the exact day?. Last year was 2012
    this year is 2013 apparently ? What is the end of the world scenarios all about ?
    This today we learn is to do with the 'information cloud' ?

    I don't why I wrote this but many threads are getting related for me. Obviously we all
    look at different parts of the field and they all overlap ,depending on what you have been
    exposed to....

    Like project Avalon/Camelot...........James, Bob, carolyn and Ion have put out a mega
    amount of information over the past 3 years in particular but many years before that.
    They have great credentials..........in medison, industry , media , intelligence sport &
    finance and government and corporate ,illuminatti corruption!

    But is this information True or some sort of mind control ?? They have the collective
    knowledge and experiance that either is a possibility !!!

    I think its been great fun and educational and parrallels a lot of the info we talk about
    here and other forums.But goes much deeper into the maitrix if you follow their drift...

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Anyway how did i get here from Valiant Thor ....LOL....

    on page 3 ? of the chinese blog i saw this ...


    VENUSIAN on Maui?
    Back to Venus De-Classified
    The method of interplanetary communications involved the use of a crystal called a Telolith, a form of inter-dimensional
    communications telepathy called telethought, and a Venusian Symbol that we embroidered on our clothing (and paintings were made
    of it for our offices and on top of our car). All of the Xians and our staff who used this combination, incredibly reported seeing flying
    objects they believed were spaceships, and some reported telepathic contacts!

    The Venusian Secret Science was written by Michael X. (Barton) of California, and he reported the information cam from a landed
    Venusian spacecraft he made contact with in the 1950s in the hills behind Santa Barbara. He described the pilot as tall and wearing
    a one piece uniform, with the face of an extraordinarily intelligent man radiating masculine strength and decisiveness, but also
    conveyed an inner quality of peace, kindness, and Compassion. His skin was beautifully tanned, the Venusian had long golden hair,
    and clear blue eyes that shone like precious jewels. He reflected perfect health. The depth of his eyes, according to Barton,
    reminded him of looking into a deep ocean and seeing the whole universe.

    A beautiful Venusian women then emerged from the ship. She had long golden blonde hair, beautiful sun bronzed skin, and violet
    eyes with sparkles of gold in them. Her features were beautifully proportioned, and around here waist she wore a golden belt. Her
    shoes were of a soft golden mesh material.

    This account reminded me f the ancient writings in hieroglyphics on the Temple of the Sun, in Tiajuanaco in the Andes, describing
    how a golden spaceship from Venus had Ianded there in the dawn of time. The ancient writings tell how a beautiful Venusian
    women, Orejona, had emerged from the ship and taught the ancients the basics of farming, and the skills to begin civilization.
    Venusians landed on Earth in ancient times to teach agriculture, textiles, mining, architecture, and other skills, according to written
    histories left by Babylonians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Chaldeans, Mayans, Aztecs, Aryans, Assyrians, and the
    inhabitants of ancient India and Tibet. Why shouldn't we believe these ancient writings like those peoples certainly did so!


    read more
    http://www.burlingtonnews.net/venusdeclassified2.html




    ================================================== ==============


    Good graphics and connections on site...


    http://webbrain.com/brainpage/brain/...9-D742DA541AAA
    Last edited by Cidersomerset; 19th November 2012 at 18:54.

  31. Link to Post #17
    UK Avalon Member Cidersomerset's Avatar
    Join Date
    16th May 2011
    Location
    Bridgwater somerset UK
    Age
    56
    Posts
    18,603
    Thanks
    26,787
    Thanked 61,032 times in 15,083 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Space Brother Contactees Part 1 of 5 - Howard Menger, Van Tassel & Dan Fry
    he vids should run after each other.




    Uploaded by quantumcosmology09 on 27 May 2009


    Howard Menger, Van Tassel and Dan Fry, completing the series on Leslie UFO (Adamski)
    in the Quantum Cosmology account. The damaged file with Dan Fry is now part of this
    series. ETs walk do amongst us; valuable evidence is provided by reliable witnesses.
    There are incredible revelations regarding the Military building Saucers on Earth,
    secrecy and methods in recruiting Contactees, witness accounts of Human Looking
    Space People and.well I am blown away. Sadly I am led to understand Menger
    passed away as recently as Feb 2009 at 87 years of age. You will meet all his
    family in this film. I wish I had known he was alive at that time.
    Last edited by Cidersomerset; 16th August 2016 at 20:12.

  32. The Following User Says Thank You to Cidersomerset For This Post:

    GalaxyHorse (16th August 2013)

  33. Link to Post #18
    Avalon Member Houman's Avatar
    Join Date
    31st March 2010
    Posts
    1,087
    Thanks
    869
    Thanked 8,107 times in 1,014 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    Hello, Houman. Yes, all is very well.

    I met and talked with Al Bielek and Phil Schneider on three different occasions back in the mid-90s. I don't recall what Al specifically said about Val Thor but I do remember asking Al why the picture of his "Val Thor" looked different than Stranges' "Val Thor". Al didn't have any answer and didn't seem to be aware of that.

    Perhaps there is a clear picture of Al's or Phil's "Val Thor" somewhere on the internet. The one that Phil shows in one of his videos is too fuzzy to discern the image.

    I got to listen to Al & Phil talk at a very small gathering of about six people in a small room. I neglected to bring a video camera and I am still kicking myself in the butt today about that because it was really something special. Phil opened his locked metal case with all the exotic metals, implant, pictures, etc and I got to handle them. Also, Phil and Al got into a conversation about Phil's invention that created some kind of energy beam. Phil threw something into the beam and it disappeared. Al talked in great detail about the electronics involved in the Philadelphia project. This was just shortly before Phil was murdered (and shortly after he had been shot in his left shoulder).

    Quote Posted by Houman (here)
    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    I knew both Al Bielek and Phil Schneider (when they were traveling around together) and Al Bielek said he also met Val Thor.

    Truman
    Hi Truman,

    Good to hear from you I hope that all is well.
    Houman
    There is an interesting article on the "possible" physics behind the Philadelphia experiment

    An extract of that article can be found at
    http://www.bielek.com/pdf/tesla.pdf

    I have a hard copy of the full version (122 pages, can be ordered via a good library) but I don't see one online.

    Houman

  34. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Houman For This Post:

    Hervé (19th November 2012), sunflower (16th August 2013)

  35. Link to Post #19
    United States Avalon Member mojo's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th February 2011
    Posts
    2,946
    Thanks
    16,113
    Thanked 16,915 times in 2,653 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    Bump....now they are going to make a movie of Valiant Thor.

    http://www.strangeratthepentagon.com/

    short vid about Thor





  36. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to mojo For This Post:

    778 neighbour of some guy (5th August 2013), Atlas (16th September 2014), Flowerpunkchip (5th August 2013), Houman (5th August 2013), OnyxKnight (19th September 2014), sunflower (16th August 2013), ulli (16th August 2013)

  37. Link to Post #20
    UK Avalon Member GalaxyHorse's Avatar
    Join Date
    31st May 2010
    Location
    Launceston, Tasmania
    Age
    58
    Posts
    876
    Thanks
    2,000
    Thanked 3,621 times in 760 posts

    Default Re: Valiant Thor, Jill, Donn

    This is quite a story Cider, probably one of the most compelling I have seen-typical that the FBI took the original film tape eh?


    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)


    Uploaded by quantumcosmology09 on 27 May 2009


    Howard Menger, Van Tassel and Dan Fry, completing the series on Leslie UFO (Adamski)
    in the Quantum Cosmology account. The damaged file with Dan Fry is now part of this
    series. ETs walk do amongst us; valuable evidence is provided by reliable witnesses.
    There are incredible revelations regarding the Military building Saucers on Earth,
    secrecy and methods in recruiting Contactees, witness accounts of Human Looking
    Space People and.well I am blown away. Sadly I am led to understand Menger
    passed away as recently as Feb 2009 at 87 years of age. You will meet all his
    family in this film. I wish I had known he was alive at that time.

  38. The Following User Says Thank You to GalaxyHorse For This Post:

    ulli (16th August 2013)

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts