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    We are told that in the latter days many secrets will be revealed. Things many mystics and prophets longed to see and understand. I think some have understood them for a long time and spoken of them in cryptic languages and imagery. Now, we are finding out some of these things scientifically. The following video is quite revealing:


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    I could have done without the biblical references.

    Hydrogen, helium, oxygen are all gases!? What is this nonsense.

    Had to stop after he reefers to hyper-dimensional physics as something that is real. Hoagland the physicists who has invented this hyperdimensional field, is pretty much rejected by just about every physicist around.

    However Nano-molecular engineering is something that is truly fascinating, its a bummer they had to go the direction with this video they did.

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    I could have done without the biblical references.

    Hydrogen, helium, oxygen are all gases!? What is this nonsense.

    Had to stop after he reefers to hyper-dimensional physics as something that is real. Hoagland the physicists who has invented this hyperdimensional field, is pretty much rejected by just about every physicist around.

    However Nano-molecular engineering is something that is truly fascinating, its a bummer they had to go the direction with this video they did.
    I agree, Toad. This is a nice video, but not scientific at all. However, it´s a nice esoteric theory.

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    Worth watching a few times... thanks for posting
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    not really scientifical indeed.. yet interesting.
    by the way, "hyper-dimensions" are used in quantum theory, it's not only Mr Hogland. Practically, anything above 4 dimensions is said to be "hyperdimensional".
    as well as oxygen, helium and hydrogen are indeed gases, or can manifest this state of matter to be precise.
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    Quote Posted by buckminster fuller (here)
    not really scientifical indeed.. yet interesting.
    by the way, "hyper-dimensions" are used in quantum theory, it's not only Mr Hogland. Practically, anything above 4 dimensions is said to be "hyperdimensional".
    as well as oxygen, helium and hydrogen are indeed gases, or can manifest this state of matter to be precise.
    Indeed, however hyper-dimensional fields are highly refuted in the way it is implied here.

    As for the gases, I think I was under the assumption he was saying they were only gases, which as you said can be among other states of matter.
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    if we are talking about trying to prove ascension with science, then we are barking up the wrong tree, it is about Spirituality. most scientists do not believe in Spirit, why are we trying to prove it?

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    Quote Posted by Dig (here)
    if we are talking about trying to prove ascension with science, then we are barking up the wrong tree, it is about Spirituality. most scientists do not believe in Spirit, why are we trying to prove it?
    at some point they will meet...
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    if we are talking about trying to prove ascension with science, then we are barking up the wrong tree, it is about Spirituality. most scientists do not believe in Spirit, why are we trying to prove it?
    at some point they will meet...
    I hope sooner, than later

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    Hydrogen, helium, oxygen are all gases!? What is this nonsense.
    I don't understand your objection. Elements are classified as gases when they are found in that phase in nature on this planet. To be solid or liguid these elements need extremely low temperatures, that do not occur naturally. Nevermind, You explained it while I was writing this post. I find this video a good attempt to find the middle ground between Spiritual understanding, and scientific understanding. Any such attempts can not be taken as fact, but I find them useful explorations of possibilities, something that all major scientific breakthroughs are based on.
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    Quote Posted by Dig (here)
    if we are talking about trying to prove ascension with science, then we are barking up the wrong tree, it is about Spirituality. most scientists do not believe in Spirit, why are we trying to prove it?
    Very valid point, yet I'm sure there are ways, to describe spiritual subtle energies and all the rest of it in scientific terms, I suppose this is being done by others, but we on earth apparently are not very adroit in doing that yet.

    Spirituality is also a science, isn't it? Spirit-science.

    From Webster's:
    Definition of SCIENCE

    1:
    the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding

    2:
    a: a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study <the science of theology>
    b: something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge <have it down to a science>

    3:
    a : knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method
    b : such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena : natural science

    4:
    a system or method reconciling practical ends with scientific laws <cooking is both a science and an art>

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    Can't remember which version of the Bible it was, but a there was reference mark next to the Revelation 666 passage. In the reference section at the bottom of the page, it said that in some other languague (think it was hebrew) the 666 could be interpeted as 616

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    Previously posted before OP, here's the link. Different Title but same video. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t-Of-Man-Beast
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    Can't remember which version of the Bible it was, but a there was reference mark next to the Revelation 666 passage. In the reference section at the bottom of the page, it said that in some other languague (think it was hebrew) the 666 could be interpeted as 616
    That's the area code of Amway headquarters.

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    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    Previously posted before OP, here's the link. Different Title but same video. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t-Of-Man-Beast
    Thanks Whitefeather. I don't like posting on top of another's subject with same video etc.. I did a search on title and number thingy youtube uses.... I wish there were an easier way to do these searches. Mods, would you please merge these or delete this one if no one objects?

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    That's quite alright sis, yes, an interesting video. Man is The Mark Of The Beast 666 The Bible was correct, We consist Of 6 electrons, 6 Neutrons, 6 Protons.
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    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    Previously posted before OP, here's the link. Different Title but same video. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t-Of-Man-Beast
    The two videos were not -exactly- the same video, and the two threads have somewhat separate discussions in view and in timeframe posted.

    So we'll leave the two threads separate, not merged.
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    Very interesting vid, with some very interesting theories. Hadn't heard this one for 666 before - it's inconclusive for me, but quite compelling.

    Ascension from a scientific perspective is definitely something new to chew over...and I'm one who can believe that science and spirituality can share the same space. To believe that spirituality is something completely intangible, ephemeral, as to exist outside of the natural laws (hence science) of the Universe, is thinking somewhat narrowly.
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    An Atomist thread is long over due!
    We need to link these dots (pardon the pun)

    In reference to spirituality and science one might find this interesting especially considering it was a composed practise nearly 2500 years ago.

    The Buddha taught that everything that exists at the material level is composed of "Kalapas." Kalapas are material units very much smaller than atoms, which die out immediately after they come into being. Each kalapa is a mass formed of the eight basic constituents of matter, the solid, liquid, calorific and oscillatory, together with color, smell, taste, and nutriment. The first four are called primary qualities, and are predominant in a kalapa. The other four are subsidiaries, dependent upon and springing from the former. A kalapa is the minutest particle in the physical plane — still beyond the range of science today. It is only when the eight basic material constituents unite together that the kalapa is formed. In other words, the momentary collocation of these eight basic elements of behavior makes a man just for that moment, which in Buddhism is known as a kalapa. The life-span of a kalapa is termed a moment, and a trillion such moments are said to elapse during the wink of a man's eye. These kalapas are all in a state of perpetual change or flux. To a developed student in Vipassana Meditation they can be felt as a stream of energy.

    The human body is not, as it may appear, a solid stable entity, but a continuum of matter (rupa) co-existing with mentality (nama). To know that our very body is tiny kalapas all in a state of change is to know the true nature of change or decay. This change or decay (anicca) occasioned by the continual breakdown and replacement of kalapas,

    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/a.../wheel231.html
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