Cheating

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
Instead of "until death do us part" I would prefer "until our journey together has ended". And sometimes the journey will last forever.
Cheating is wrong only because it's dishonest. Lies hurt.
If a relationship is not working anymore, the bond should be broken, but not by cheating nor walking away and breaking the other person's heart. The issue should be discussed, understood, and the bond should be broken in a loving ritual of appreciation for all that was shared with the other person. This may be difficult to accomplish, but it is possible. I attended a ritual at the end of a marriage, and it was beautifully moving. They are now very good friends.

I agree.
If you can't act with honour, then what worth do you have for anyone?

[leemadison11]

Down on health, looking old and having a boring lifestyle doesn't mean that being in relationship sucks, but that now both have found such partners who accept the person the way he or she is. It has nothing to do with lifestyle and looks.

[pharoah21]

The reason I wrote this thread from the start was because I had quite a traumatic break up recently. The first week was an incredibly difficult time for me, but by the 2nd week, I began to fly again. I found myself to be happier than I ever was in this relationship, and I just couldn't understand why. My first reaction was to question whether or not the whole soul mate thing really existed. I decided it didn't. But I've kept thinking, recalling, analysing my relationship with this person. I have only just started to realise how incredibly difficult this person could be to deal with. Always suspecting me of cheating, having to constantly be on my best behaviour to avoid any emotional tantrums, and constantly walking on egg shells around her. This was a recipe to hurt any relationship. As rough as things have been, I feel better than ever now, I can see God orchestrating things in my life. People I haven't spoken to in years have recently just found their way back in to my life, offering love and support where it's needed. I have a new and improved mind state, I finally have vision for my life again.............and it feels good.

I do believe in soul mates. Through past life regression I know I have been with this girl many times in my previous lives, she was my reason for suicide in my last life, and this life was nearly a repeat. But I'm so glad I made it through, and I am able now to move on to greater things. See the thing is about soul mates, your best friend is one, your partner is too. They take many different forms to teach many different lessons, and you never know how long they'll be around.........but as for the stereo typical romantic lover soul mate that everybody dreams about, I guess that's something reserved for the truly evolved, only they are worthy of something so beautiful.

Thank you to everybody who shared their thoughts and opinions on this thread.

Blessings

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by pharoah21 (here)
The reason I wrote this thread from the start was because I had quite a traumatic break up recently. The first week was an incredibly difficult time for me, but by the 2nd week, I began to fly again. I found myself to be happier than I ever was in this relationship, and I just couldn't understand why. My first reaction was to question whether or not the whole soul mate thing really existed. I decided it didn't. But I've kept thinking, recalling, analysing my relationship with this person. I have only just started to realise how incredibly difficult this person could be to deal with. Always suspecting me of cheating, having to constantly be on my best behaviour to avoid any emotional tantrums, and constantly walking on egg shells around her. This was a recipe to hurt any relationship. As rough as things have been, I feel better than ever now, I can see God orchestrating things in my life. People I haven't spoken to in years have recently just found their way back in to my life, offering love and support where it's needed. I have a new and improved mind state, I finally have vision for my life again.............and it feels good.

I do believe in soul mates. Through past life regression I know I have been with this girl many times in my previous lives, she was my reason for suicide in my last life, and this life was nearly a repeat. But I'm so glad I made it through, and I am able now to move on to greater things. See the thing is about soul mates, your best friend is one, your partner is too. They take many different forms to teach many different lessons, and you never know how long they'll be around.........but as for the stereo typical romantic lover soul mate that everybody dreams about, I guess that's something reserved for the truly evolved, only they are worthy of something so beautiful.

Thank you to everybody who shared their thoughts and opinions on this thread.

Blessings

No worries masrigoldenmetalobject.
Hopefully, she will get over her limitations and move on too.
Hopefully, the short term cynicism you suffered is exactly that, short term.

[fosselovelight]

This has been a beautiful thread and i truly appreciate everyone's honesty.
I do believe however before looking externally at 'relationships' and 'blaming' or 'analysing' anyone else... we must first love ourselves UNCONDITIONALLY before we can really start learning anything ..... I have also just come out of a relationship... a true learning experience. I do not view it as 'negative' or 'positive' but simply a 'learning experience' to enable my soul's progression in this life. I had many intuitive moments during the relationship that would tell me the person i was with was not for my highest good... as this person did not love themselves and was not honest with themselves which i truly discovered towards the end of the relationship. However I did love the person and i continuously tried to assist them. I found in the end - the person's energy was draining and impacted on my own so much so that it affected how i felt about myself, my artistry , and my relationships with others.. The person's actions and behaviours became quite aggressive and physical being the reason why the relationship has now finally come to end. I also know I have been in past life with this person... in our previous past life together I have had regression memories that he had violently ended my life once before. I do not view this as positive or negative ...i am only grateful for the experience of learning. I am currently on a path of artistry and music and I have found that this experience has truly unleashed a side of me I never knew existed and has helped me with expressions and creativity! I am FREE to finally be ME again with no ROADBLOCKS!!!! I am grateful i have not allowed someone who was not for my highest good to be in my life. AS for 'cheating' and 'soul mates'........ well...........I believe UNCONDITIONAL LOVE for oneself... and being one's OWN SOULMATE should always be the main FOCUS!!!!!!...... beautiful relationships, friendships and experiences shall then always follow...

[fosselovelight]

Once you have started seeing the beauty of life, ugliness starts disappearing. If you start looking at life with joy, sadness starts disappearing. You cannot have heaven and hell together, you can only have one. It is your choice." ~ Osho

[TargeT]

Posted by fosselovelight (here)
we must first love ourselves UNCONDITIONALLY before we can really start learning anything ..... ...

This has been a big focus of mine lately, self exploration before all else.

I think the term "selfish" has negative connotation & is damaging to people, if you do not know your self, if you do not know what makes you happy, if you do not know what you want; how can you ever expect to find/fulfill/be anything to someone else?

I think this starts at child hood with naming, once a name is applied, a persona is created, you are no longer "I AM" you are now "John" which is almost a 3rd party you.. is this the creation of ego; or just a powerful tool ego uses?

[ghostrider]

something the world has lost. L O Y A L T Y ... you honor each other , better to say I want out pick a reason, then go shopping. at least you have been honest and up front. never go shopping while in a bond of honor and trust with the one person that when the whole world turns on you, that one person will stand by you no matter what. I think people just don't take the time to really get to know a person before taking steps toward bonding forever with one person... when you cheat you dis-honor yourself and then karma will come around and bite you in the @##. your gonna reap what you sow. if you cheat you'll be cheated on. I say show some character and be LOYAL.

[lisa]

Posted by nearing (here)
I am not so sure that a dog and a cat should be married to one another. There is no shame in leaving if 'beliefs' can't be reconciled.

Yeah? Should I dump my friends too?? I am like an alien compared to them.

Seriously though, I learn so much from our differences. I learn to understand the differences and walk in other people's shoes. In some ways, our differences compliment each other. In the end, if we are here to experience life and all experiences are equally valid, then it does not matter what our beliefs are.

Hubby and I have a lot in common. We both love the outdoors. We don't watch TV or sports. And even though he is not spiritual, he has amazing insights and very high integrity. He does not drink alcohol or caffeine. He has brilliant ideas and he takes fantastic pictures.

People change so much. Maybe he will wake up tomorrow and become more awake or spiritual than me. Can i keep him now?

[nearing]

Posted by lisa (here)

Posted by nearing (here)
I am not so sure that a dog and a cat should be married to one another. There is no shame in leaving if 'beliefs' can't be reconciled.

Yeah? Should I dump my friends too?? I am like an alien compared to them.

Seriously though, I learn so much from our differences. I learn to understand the differences and walk in other people's shoes. In some ways, our differences compliment each other. In the end, if we are here to experience life and all experiences are equally valid, then it does not matter what our beliefs are.

Hubby and I have a lot in common. We both love the outdoors. We don't watch TV or sports. And even though he is not spiritual, he has amazing insights and very high integrity. He does not drink alcohol or caffeine. He has brilliant ideas and he takes fantastic pictures.

People change so much. Maybe he will wake up tomorrow and become more awake or spiritual than me. Can i keep him now?

If you love him, you should definitely keep him. Marital love isn't expendable, it should be cherished! Just don't cheat on him, that will only bring both of you heartache in the long run (maybe even the short run).

And I have seen crazier things happen, so yes, he may wake up and become spiritual, for sure!

[pharoah21]

Posted by fosselovelight (here)
This has been a beautiful thread and i truly appreciate everyone's honesty.
I do believe however before looking externally at 'relationships' and 'blaming' or 'analysing' anyone else... we must first love ourselves UNCONDITIONALLY before we can really start learning anything ..... I have also just come out of a relationship... a true learning experience. I do not view it as 'negative' or 'positive' but simply a 'learning experience' to enable my soul's progression in this life. I had many intuitive moments during the relationship that would tell me the person i was with was not for my highest good... as this person did not love themselves and was not honest with themselves which i truly discovered towards the end of the relationship. However I did love the person and i continuously tried to assist them. I found in the end - the person's energy was draining and impacted on my own so much so that it affected how i felt about myself, my artistry , and my relationships with others.. The person's actions and behaviours became quite aggressive and physical being the reason why the relationship has now finally come to end. I also know I have been in past life with this person... in our previous past life together I have had regression memories that he had violently ended my life once before. I do not view this as positive or negative ...i am only grateful for the experience of learning. I am currently on a path of artistry and music and I have found that this experience has truly unleashed a side of me I never knew existed and has helped me with expressions and creativity! I am FREE to finally be ME again with no ROADBLOCKS!!!! I am grateful i have not allowed someone who was not for my highest good to be in my life. AS for 'cheating' and 'soul mates'........ well...........I believe UNCONDITIONAL LOVE for oneself... and being one's OWN SOULMATE should always be the main FOCUS!!!!!!...... beautiful relationships, friendships and experiences shall then always follow...

I agree with you completely.......one should learn to love their self, before truly learning to love another. This was my biggest downfall...........I'm glad things are going well for you, and you are free to spread your wings. All the best to you

[pharoah21]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
something the world has lost. L O Y A L T Y ... you honor each other , better to say I want out pick a reason, then go shopping. at least you have been honest and up front. never go shopping while in a bond of honor and trust with the one person that when the whole world turns on you, that one person will stand by you no matter what. I think people just don't take the time to really get to know a person before taking steps toward bonding forever with one person... when you cheat you dis-honor yourself and then karma will come around and bite you in the @##. your gonna reap what you sow. if you cheat you'll be cheated on. I say show some character and be LOYAL.

I was loyal as can be to this girl, there were numerous times where she had done some nasty things to me, but I always quickly forgave her, my love did reign supreme for her. But my problem was that I didn't love myself enough, so I started to dwindle, and become spiritually dishevelled. Still to this day I wish there was some form of loyalty between us, at least to say, I did love you, so let's at least work things out like adults so we can move on with our lives...........but I guess we can't have everything, closure is a privilege.