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    Although mentioned in alchemical texts it is uncertain what role Bismuth played in alchemical processes.

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    http://store.innertraditions.com/Con...&displayZoom=1

    Robert Cox shows that the secret to all this, in the end, turned out to be not just antimony, but Bismuth. Bismuth is unique in the table of elements, in some ways, as is Gold. Gold only has the one stable isotope and is excruciatingly hard to break specific aspects of it's bonding characteristics, and thus it can literally be stretched to a atomically thin films. I'm not talking about spray deposition, but actual hammering thin, so thin it can be seen through, akin to a vapor deposited film.

    Gold is considered the 'King' of these monatomics or sueprdeformed oxidized states of the platinum metals group (and includes copper), due to the dimensional egress and frequencies it works with concerning the human form and function. Monatomic silver, for example, works differently and has different dimension and different human effects, in many ways that differ from Monatomic gold. Same for the other platinum metal group monatomics.
    I have no idea what evidence Robert Cox links his claims from as I have not read anything of his work. As Joseph Farrell notes Prof Walther Gerlach was in charge of the project and Gerlach from December 1943 was head of the German atomic bomb project with respect to the acquisition of fissile Uranium (ie enrichment etc).

    If however you trace Gerlach's work before the war he developed the concept of spin polarisation of atoms. That is to say physically spinning material in a powerful magnetic field to induce a plasma. He was involved with experiments published in 1926 and subsequently which used a cathode of Mercury and Tungsten in a paraffin jelly to transmute mercury to gold.

    Later Gerlach experimented with spinning a plasma to make gold. Seimens bought the patent rights and developed it further into a process within a vacumn which boosted the gold production. Before WW2 a general in the german army also bought patent rights from another inventor for a process to make gold from Lead or Bismuth. The general concerned created a pyramid selling scheme, selling rights in the process which eventually bankrupted many people. The transmutation process itself however worked.

    The German Army Ornance Dept (Heereswaffenamt) took a great deal of interest in this work as a method for transmuting Thorium into fissile Uranium and in January 1942 appointed Gerlach to head Projekt Thor.

    The Thorium was taken from Monzanite deposits in Lower Silesia in the Eulenbirge mountains near Breslau. Monzanite is Thorium-phosphate.

    The Bell created a plasma which caused a photochemical reaction. The exact process is not quite clear, however a number of imprisoned Nazi nuclear scientists at a place called Farm Hall discussed the process in secretly recorded conversations.

    Quote Bismuth is known as the last stable element before we get into the radioactive, the one's that can't hold together in this universe without going into decay..and it is atomically related to antimony with regard to mining and was and is separated from antimony, similar to way that gallium is associated with and needs be separated from aluminum.

    So we end up with Bismuth front and center, squarely on the plate of this question. In essence, Bismuth straddles the boundary between stability and decay. Thus, it may be possible to use it to 'flip' other atomic structures into differing states, via using it as a tool in atomic or in this case, monatomic addition and subtraction. Thus it's key use in the creation of monatomic gold or the philosopher's stone. to create super-deformed atomic structures that are superconductive and straddle dimensional barriers.

    When in the superdeformed state, like HHO gas, a collapse can be precipitated, and snap back, if you will..and you end up with the zero radiation signature of the explosive power of this stuff , similar to the red mercury, as covered in The Nazi Bell books, in the Nazi explosive testing. What I mean is that David Hudson spoke of taking the complex mix of monatomics he found in the soil,and when it was wet.. putting it outside to dry, inthe sunlight. The sunlight would dry it, and at some point nthe drying process, the combination of the evaporating H2O molecules, the sunlight's action on the molecules of the monatomics and the evaporating water..would cause at least one of the molecules to snap from the super-deformed state and cascade the rest from the shock. This would cause the entire associated monatomic mass to disappear in a huge light explosion that was like the biggest flash bomb you could imagine. But no sound, nothing but the light flash..and the entire mass would dimensionally shift.

    The egyptian literature would speak of the Kings and similar of ancient Egypt taking the monatomic mixtures as an elixir and when they thought their thinking (spirit body, bio-location, connection to their ethereal body complete, etc, elevated consciousness --illuminated) and mind and body were prepared enough..they would consume massive amounts of the monatomics...and then......step into the light.....and disappear from this dimension. Immortality on and in the astral realms, to their way of thinking. They had dimensionally shifted themselves, in body, and spirit.
    Problem with this is that in the first operation of the Nazi Bell beneath Gandau airfield in 1943, all 7 scientists supervising it's operation were stricken by radiation sickness and only two survived. Generally all living matter within 150 metres of the bell died. Source: Sporrenberg via Igor Witkowski.

    Quote The need to torsionally spin the complex red mercury and do it under an electrical or plasma condition, is to stress the material into a co-joined atomic superdeformed state, which like the philosopher's stone, is subject to charge decay over time. This is the same multi-axis or torsionally spun directional charge consideration used in the anti-gravity craft they make and the temporal capacities as well. Which leads directly to Yellowbook and the looking glass temporal view devices. In the literature of the philosopher's stone, it literally must be charged before it can work it's miracles, the base atomic material is not effective until this takes place. This is the exact descriptive of the red mercury serum. When charging the philosopher's tone, via heating, annealing, etc... David Hudson found a whole plethora of multi-dimensional effects. The Red mercury reports similar situations, ie, different atomic weights, variations in radiation signature, etc.

    This means the locking together of lattice structures of atomic bonding, to differing levels on complex molecules, using different molecules under stress considerations to create and design deformed atomic structures and straddle dimensional barriers (a cracking open of a doorway through polarity or polarization stressing), etc.

    These points go through all attempts at over-unity, anti gravity, the philosopher's stone, xerum 525, monatmomics, basically... every single aspect of the entire topic of anomalous scientific considerations, spiritual considerations, and dimensional considerations (including the becker-hagens grid, spirals in history and crop circles, etc) that you can possibly imagine. All through the same single area of thought, insofar as scientific explanations go.

    Everything comes to the same point, the same spot, the same explanation and actions utilized to enact effects and change.
    Personally I think there is a more simple explanation of the bell's purpose. Patents were issued both during and immediately after the war which refer to the Nazi Bell as a device for creating high plasma energies. Rolf Wideroe who worked for Phillips in Hamburg during 1943 created a device described after the war by a Jewish plasma physics scientist. They described a spherical cylinder spun inside another spherical cylinder to induce a plasma.

    The purpose of spinning Mercury was to generate higher energies in a plasma than could be produced just by statically inducing a magnetic charge. This led to very high temperatures. Such conditions are nowadays replicated in supercoliders.

    There are many such supercoliders all around the world so if there was such distortion, which as you say David Hudson talks about then there should be examples of it in modern experiments.

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    Quote There are many such supercoliders all around the world so if there was such distortion, which as you say David Hudson talks about then there should be examples of it in modern experiments.
    Do you think there is a connection between the LHC-CERN and the Bell?

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    The only real problem here, is that the next set of 'reveals' (the prestige)... for any of us, in this conversation, necessarily gets into interesting areas of plausibility and proofing -of an interesting nature. ie 'here be dragons', as they say on the old maps.

    However, to continue, in some fashion...

    Quote The Bell created a plasma which caused a photochemical reaction
    This one trips me a tiny bit. The two may be related but I'd more suspect the emissive characteristics were secondary, and not specifically related as a component of a series event completion of function..but rather a parallel related effect. Meaning the photochemical aspects, if associated with the bell, merely shows what is another door of manipulation - in order to reach a similar result. If I was forced into a black and white decision on that thought, I'd say the above statement from me is the point to march forward with -in order to speculate further with the given hypothetical data.

    The point is, that no matter how it is looked at ..all of these seem to be coming down to something that could be 'mechanically' stated/related as 'shearing deformation techniques', utilized in order to alter atomic structure.
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    Quote Posted by Swami (here)
    Do you think there is a connection between the LHC-CERN and the Bell?
    IMO the Large Hardon Collider (purposely misspelled) is the scientific equivalent of a purposely created red herring. Another erected dead end, in most respects. Another crumb to follow for 20 years. when the reality is that even one smart and clear minded man, left to his devices and a busload of effort and cash, can get many, many strides well ahead of any results that this LHC thing might produce. For hypothetical theorization.. and then simplistic experiments...ie, design physics by committee..you have the blood trail of the LHC.

    The LHC is like all the politicians, money, backroom decision makers, and the media..and in this case, academia ...getting behind some 'question' as proposed by some new scientific 'saint', who fails to provide for food in mouths or real change...but makes an attempt to answer a theory which leads nowhere except more impractical theories...nothing that is useful in the lifetime of anyone who is here right now, reading this. It's a flaming bag of dog crap.

    In politics they get behind a controllable charming moron to tie the public up in knots and in this case they tie up science with something like the LHC.

    In times of war, money is thrown at intelligent men who are not interfered with....and in those moments they can get the 'connection'..and move near light years ahead (and in practical results) of the LHC. To me the LHC is 'brute force and ignorance' as an example of theorizing by disorganized committee.

    And what they could do in $10B in 15 years, a smart man left to his own devices and about $10M, could move literally light years ahead of it. Which history has shown to be true -repeatedly. To me, the LHC is an insult to intelligence. It's like the Babylonian money control system's red herring of war and politics... but enacted on the scientific field as the never completing or never concluding solution. The attempt at a solution to a problem which will never be allowed to complete itself or become practical in any time period that includes freedom in the common man. It is therefore a block and slight to intelligence and human life. As all bovinefecal scientific games that took place before it which came down the line and froze science for ten years...this 'answer and practicality in our lifetime' freezes action in man for another ten years. It is a very sick joke that actually makes me sick for the supposed intelligence in man. IMO, The LHC is a delaying game or tactic.

    In the same way that one wants to pull a crying man away form the still warm corpse of their child, I feel sick to my stomach and my heart aches when I see mankind's supposed intelligence sidelined by such things. Again.

    To answer your question, in the direct sense? IMO....No.
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    More or less agree with Carmody (post #65)
    We must understand that science and technology are not separate entities from anything else.

    They exist within and serve specific system. Current system prefers technologies easy to centrally control, utilizing exotic materials and constructions, only states and big corporations can afford.

    Also , in terms of control they are perfectly happy with current state of science progress, from their standpoint things like internet were going to far and in need to be taken back into the fold.
    On the other hand, for PR reasons, there is need to create "illusion of progress". That is why such giant projects are build, that is why breakthrough is always "20 years away".

    On the other hand, we are handed short lived contraptions in carefully planned phases, but utilizing same principles which were known 30 years ago (see computer processors). This is also favouring big companies with big factories: would you invest in giant LCD factory knowing that some upstart would produce cheap printed OLED's at fraction of the price? With usage of patent laws, Intellectual Property and artificially high market entry capital costs, they are free to keep whole process neatly under wraps, knowing people would shell money for another iGizmo, that is just a fraction better than last one. And then the next one. Serfs kept happy and completely indebted to PTB's

    One of the reasons, why calling current "economy" a "free market" is laughable

    As for Bell: from what I see, somebody piggy-backed nazi state into funding exotic research, developed the tech and vanished, leaving puppets hanging. Clever. But one can see that USofA is piggybacked in similar manner right now. We are dealing with completely breakaway civilization, with technologies and science unlike anything we know and can extrapolate from what is known in our civilization's "science".

    What we have are bits and pieces from 50 years ago. We also have proof of men like Tesla, that more or less refused to cooperate with our current civilization.

    Question should be asked: what is needed to create such civilization, that will make breakthroughs viable? A breakaway of our own, so to speak?

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    Quote To answer your question, in the direct sense? IMO....No.
    Thx........

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    Yessirree- Bob..maybe some day... they'll get it.


    'incoherent excitations'

    "New research by University of British Columbia physicists indicates that high-temperature superconductivity in copper oxides is linked to what they term 'incoherent excitations'--a discovery that sheds light on the electronic response of these materials before they become superconducting."


    http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-10-...-behavior.html
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    Found this on my Dutch forum and decided to "drop" it here.

    Daily Mail, Thursday, Nov 18 2010 :

    Hitler's secret flying saucer: Did the Führer plan to attack London and New York in UFOs?

    As Hitler's armies began to crumble on fronts as far apart as Stalingrad and North Africa, he turned in increasing desperation to his scientists to create a war-winning super-weapon.
    Some, like the V2 rockets and the first jet fighters, saw action but came too late to halt defeat.
    Others were so outrageously ambitious that they never got past the drawing board. The idea of building flying saucers to bomb London and even New York could have been just such a scheme


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...London-NY.html

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    Quote Posted by heyokah (here)
    Found this on my Dutch forum and decided to "drop" it here.

    Daily Mail, Thursday, Nov 18 2010 :

    Hitler's secret flying saucer: Did the Führer plan to attack London and New York in UFOs?

    As Hitler's armies began to crumble on fronts as far apart as Stalingrad and North Africa, he turned in increasing desperation to his scientists to create a war-winning super-weapon.
    Some, like the V2 rockets and the first jet fighters, saw action but came too late to halt defeat.
    Others were so outrageously ambitious that they never got past the drawing board. The idea of building flying saucers to bomb London and even New York could have been just such a scheme


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...London-NY.html

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    I saw this myself in todays edition of the Daily Mail here in the UK. It is a strange article rather out of place as it is old news. The Mail does tend to publish the odd UFO article from time to time but the timing of this seems odd.

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    well now that UFOs are being spotted everywhere, they had to come out and say old news we've been flying these things for 60+ years...
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    The answer could be simple to find by excavating the site in Poland. this will be a big job requiring a fair amount of money and manpower. then the answers can be found. I believe there is still plenty to be found there.
    Starting with ground radaring the site.
    if there were or not any flying sausers is irrelevant. The Germans did not loose the war, or did they? we are made to believe they did.
    We are made to believe Adolf died back then, did he? where is the proof?
    If you stand back and look at it all from a distance, the answer may be simple... a proving and testing time for what is yet to come.. for the NWO...
    So learn from what happened and look for the signs..
    It really is not this hard to put two and two together...

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    Quote Joseph Farrell joined us for a discussion on the connection between UFOs and the Nazi's Third Reich, and presented a very different scenario of what crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in July of 1947. "If, two years after the end of World War II, something Nazi crashes in the New Mexico desert," he said, "then, yes, that's going to get the American military to panic." This panic, Farrell believes, caused them to create the "UFO v. weather balloon" debate which has persisted to this day and, thus, pushed all other theories into the peripheral.
    http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/20...1-jfarrell.php

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    Years ago I read about the Argentinian connection. I saw photos of the installation in Argentina. I think it was viewable in Google Earth. I find it difficult to believe the US intel did not know about this.

    Gen. Kammler is a very interesting chap. A man given extreme power over the highest scientific aspects of the Third Reich. Successfully disappeared completely.
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    Quote from 'The Awesome Life Force' by Joseph Cater

    Quote Time is simply another aspect of activity, motion. or dynamics in the guise of a
    symbol. It actually denotes the amount of activity in terms of a definite
    unit using space as a background. This makes possible the correlating of
    events and the bringing of order in the universe. This is all that it is.
    This is little recognised in Einsteinian physics. Time is not a real entity of itself.

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    @Swami: It is difficult for me to accept Joseph Farrell's claim that the Roswell vehicle might have been a Nazi UFO as people like Paul Epley claim the bodies recovered were definitely non-human ETs.

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    Very interesting this subject.

    The Bell this weapon project may hold the key to explaining much of recent history .The project was called Project Chronos meaning Project Time and it was given the highest possible classification,that being decisive for the war.

    http://www.americanantigravity.com/d...-Interview.pdf

    https://sites.google.com/site/naziab...ect-background

    lets not forgert Captured German scientists jump-started the American space program

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