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    Dealing with this type of things is difficult. Mere try to explain all surrounding fact is almost impossible task for many. However that does not change the fact that a war rages on. A war that is very often unseen . It`s a war for souls.
    Tons of evidence of entities whom reside in another reality or dimension than ours are forcing us to at least think of what is going on in our lives.
    Thoughts, actions and other things are effected by spiritual world more than we are aware of.
    Heard of a phrase that fish stinks from its head?
    Well that could explain the things here. Spirits are controlling majority of people without same people being aware of it.
    Free will is a rule but affecting is not ,hence thoughts are being infused into minds ,patterns of thinking, even vivid pictures or whole conversations- all in order to provoke reaction of people.
    Then when people react ,they mostly do it blindly erring or doing things which they regret afterwards.

    Whenever you do good thing, or a good deed, it does not comes unnoticed by all sides. Dark ones then seek to diminish your effort ,to down it. Then they turn to yourself in a form or energy attack or simply by bombarding your mind with negative thoughts, provoking you to do evil.

    As we are physical we can`t deal with them on physical level. But first step in overcoming the enemy is knowledge.
    Knowledge of what is happening and whom is affecting your life in bad way.
    You may think it is this or that but major affecter are spiritual entities.

    That is why this is a war for souls. They wish that humans be enslaved or dead. Why?
    Because human kind are meant to inherit eternal blessings from Creator.
    Bible spoke of that.
    Now forget all that you assume about Bible. Forget all and approach from other angle.
    Story written there is bigger than we ever thought of.
    One of the reasons why that story is blurred or diminished was and is dark ones`s wishes that we as humans never ever raise our head and have knowledge. Hence the history of lies ,murders and all evil to keep the truth out of humanity`s hands.

    But never forget that little thingy ... free will. By free will that is granted to me I choose to know and to be. I choose to live and to love. I choose to have nothing with darkness. I choose to live my life like some people never will, I choose to find kindness ,beauty and truth.

    I hope that you too - who ever you are that reads this lines - will choose wisely.
    Circles that we start always are rounding to our face, some may feel as blessing and other as curse. May you choose knowledge filled with love,tossed with wisdom and justice - first step towards Creator as our everlasting Father.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    I completely agree with everything you have written, an excellent post, thank you.

    Many people believe their thoughts to be their own but at times they are not. Watch your thoughts.
    Every good thought and deed brings you closer to the Divine. Focus upon that.

    I have been attacked by negativity all my life, but I'll fight until the end because I am on team GOD

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    So I have a question pertaining to this. It's been in my mind all day.

    I feel like there's something big coming, and I wish I could elaborate on that, but I find myself unable to, which may be part of the problem.

    I don't feel like I'm ready. I don't feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be, like I'm just ...completely behind.

    I'm a relative newcomer to most of the information on this board and its many sources, but I've been interested in spirituality my whole life.

    I guess my question is, Am I just being negative because of the mass of information I've still yet to accumulate stressing me out?

    How do I prepare further? Will I know in my heart, without a doubt, that I am advancing?

    Thanks everyone, and sorry for the ridiculous questions. It's been a weird day.

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    Thank you Beren my friend, everything you said is right on the mark.

    Moemers you will be fine hon, will be fine, don't stress, you will absolutely be okay.

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    Quote Posted by Moemers (here)
    So I have a question pertaining to this. It's been in my mind all day.

    I feel like there's something big coming, and I wish I could elaborate on that, but I find myself unable to, which may be part of the problem.

    I don't feel like I'm ready. I don't feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be, like I'm just ...completely behind.

    I'm a relative newcomer to most of the information on this board and its many sources, but I've been interested in spirituality my whole life.

    I guess my question is, Am I just being negative because of the mass of information I've still yet to accumulate stressing me out?

    How do I prepare further? Will I know in my heart, without a doubt, that I am advancing?

    Thanks everyone, and sorry for the ridiculous questions. It's been a weird day.
    Hello Moemers

    I think you are experiencing what everyone else goes through when they here this sort of informaton for the first time......sheer panic Its not ridiculous at all, but our minds just can't cope with it. The best advice I could give is not to live your life in fear. For me its a case of accepting what will be will be. And you are right the best thing you can do is work on your own spirtitual advancement, by raising your consciousness and therefore your vibration. Ignore negativity as best you can and remain positive. Fill your mind with loving thoughts and cutivate a relationship with the Divine, is the best advice one could give.

    As my old Guru said......why look down the sewer, when there is loveliness all around

    Love,

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    Kriya & Tuza;

    Keep the faith and let love be your energy.
    If we stand firm to our choices, evil can not prevail since law of free will is above them.
    They chose their road, now they are jealous on others whom not wish to follow them on the road to "hell" ( hell is a permanent stage of being where you`re cut off of Creator`s life and love and light).
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Moemers,
    friend , a first step is the hardest. It`s like strangling the serpent inside of you. Clear your mind when learning about all deceit thrown upon us, do not be afraid because the moment you set your foot to seek light ,that is the moment of darkness defeat. Continue the path and ready your heart to be fertile soil for Love, Justice ,Wisdom and Power of Creator.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Yes Beren all true.
    The dark feed on negativity and fear.
    Its up to us to walk forward with faith and humility in our heart.
    We havent the spiritual energy to win through unaided, what is heavy to us is is a feather to the Divine.
    We need to forgive the dark for they know not what they do.
    Our act of forgiveness shines the light of the Crerator on them till not even a shadow of darkness remains.
    The darkness only has the power our fear and negativity gives, they are energy vampires.
    Remove the energy and they dissolve.
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    Moemers,

    All this information is overwhelming, it can make you insecure.
    My advise is get to know yourself, know who and what you are and what your purpose is.
    When you have reached total acceptance of yourself youll be a lot more at ease and all this information out here will be much easier to accumulate

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    Thank you everybody

    I think I'll start at the beginning. Seems like the best place :D

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Yes Beren all true.
    The dark feed on negativity and fear.
    Its up to us to walk forward with faith and humility in our heart.
    We havent the spiritual energy to win through unaided, what is heavy to us is is a feather to the Divine.
    We need to forgive the dark for they know not what they do.
    Our act of forgiveness shines the light of the Crerator on them till not even a shadow of darkness remains.
    The darkness only has the power our fear and negativity gives, they are energy vampires.
    Remove the energy and they dissolve.
    Chris

    Chris,
    I think they forcefully embed fear emotions as a seed ,then as that grows inside of us they reap the fruit, usually in the form of some deed caused by fear.
    That is why is necessary to recognize "the seed" of fear and thus eliminate it.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Beren,

    I think if you like to fight, then you will fight.

    If you want to live by the sword, then prepare to die by it.

    If you want to rise above it, you can.

    If you are attacked, then you at some level invited it, but you have a choice how to respond.

    If I am attacked I can choose the outcome and the mode of achieving that outcome. I can even choose to loose - and should my heart dictate this, then that is what I would do. Sometimes, loosing a bridge to win a war is good. Sometimes you find that in the big scheme of things, the loss of the bridge was nothing. You never know till after - but you are tested to follow your inner voice and guidance and relax into the certainty that it is ALWAYS correct.

    Most of us will respond to an endless stream of challenges according to our programming and learning rooted in our single lifetimes experience in this realm. Then as we grow in our self knowledge, faith and power, led without error by our hearts - the singular focus where all that is meets all that is, we will master the game. All paradox resolved, all distortion resolved, one light and one love.

    You can dress up the challenge in all kinds of drama - its your choice. You can have a war of souls, or a war of flesh and blood - its all the same - 3D drama.

    I am human becoming - help me to become,
    We are humans becoming - help us become,
    They are humans becoming - help them become.


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    Chris,
    I think they forcefully embed fear emotions as a seed ,then as that grows inside of us they reap the fruit, usually in the form of some deed caused by fear.
    That is why is necessary to recognize "the seed" of fear and thus eliminate it.
    I can understand where you are coming from Beren.
    However for me its about transcending, letting go of, starving the negative of attention.
    If I fight or resist in any way then I am using the same level of energy that created the fear.
    it a subtle response, its not head in the sand, its not avoidance.
    I recognize that we are a fear based society (Ego)
    Im not in fear of anything because I no longer fear death.
    I have preferences --- I would rather dies a non violent death without pain for example.
    All fear is related to the body as Im inclined to point out. I have no fear for my soul, it belongs to God.
    We live in a university of consciousness.
    For example without suffering of others we could not show compassion, the greatest form of love.
    I pray for the day when suffering is no longer necessary for us to express love.
    Every seeming negativity is an opportunity for us to express love and forgiveness.
    God forgive them for they know not what they do.
    Jesus Christ was and is all about love and forgiveness.
    He stood back and let The Father work through him.
    Of my self I do nothing, it is the Father within.
    I surrender the fear to God, He deals with it for me.
    The strength lies in the humility to let God work through us.
    The ego feels that it should do something about everything.
    There is our business, other peoples business and God's business.
    The more time we spend getting our own house in order the better.
    With love and respect for you Beren
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Yes Beren all true.
    The dark feed on negativity and fear.
    Its up to us to walk forward with faith and humility in our heart.
    We haven't the spiritual energy to win through unaided, what is heavy to us is is a feather to the Divine.
    We need to forgive the dark for they know not what they do.
    Our act of forgiveness shines the light of the Creator on them till not even a shadow of darkness remains.
    The darkness only has the power our fear and negativity gives, they are energy vampires.
    Remove the energy and they dissolve.
    Chris
    Chris you are absolutely right. If you want to know how to conquer evil or negativity just look at Nelson Mandela's example, over 20 years in prison of pain and torture, yet he forgave his enemy and embrace him as a friend thus through this type of heart the impossible became possible, he melted and heal the heart of a whole nation . The source of all has a heart of compassion and forgiveness, thus in liberating ourselves from entities that feed on fear and insecurity, just turn it off. Smile, love and embrace even those that offend you and just like Mandela you can make the impossible become possible. Your enemy will become your friend, fear can become courage, hate can become love.

    Many many blessings to all.

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    Quote Posted by John (here)
    Beren,

    I think if you like to fight, then you will fight.

    If you want to live by the sword, then prepare to die by it.

    If you want to rise above it, you can.

    If you are attacked, then you at some level invited it, but you have a choice how to respond.
    This is not necessarily so John. As the nearer one gets to God the more evil forces try to attack you. Ultimately, they can not harm you, but that is not from lack of trying. A strong will and determination to succeed are required. I can attest to this in my own life.

    Love,

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    Quote Posted by kriya (here)
    This is not necessarily so John. As the nearer one gets to God the more evil forces try to attack you. Ultimately, they can not harm you, but that is not from lack of trying. A strong will and determination to succeed are required. I can attest to this in my own life.

    Love,

    Kriya
    While I can see the truth of what John says, and that does apply at some point, but certainly as one has removed a lot of the obstacles to enlightenment, the light grows stronger and brighter, and that attracts the attention of the dark.

    Many a Guru has been seduced by the attraction of power and that higher vibration of love also attracts female followers who want to sleep with the master.
    So the position of teacher can be abused, miss used, the high vibration is lost and the teacher crash lands.
    A genuine long term mutual attraction is different but to use people knowingly is some thing else.
    I watched the film of Padre Peo and he was tempted by the devil who showed his female spiritual companion in a sexually attractive way.
    Of course it was a illusion but if Padre Peo had given up his vow of chastity that would have been a massive victory for the dark side.
    Jesus was also tempted by the devil being offered power on earth.
    So it is something to be aware of when you are on the spiritual path.

    The lower astral is greatly threatened by the ongoing spiritual evolution of the human race.
    It will do all that it can to induce fear and tempt people away from spiritual progress.

    Some thing also to be aware of is that before the third eye begins to open there is a certain naivety, forgiving is one thing, condoning some thing else.
    The spiritually advanced is astute and exercises extreme discernment.
    The spiritual path is not all hearts and roses.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    The lower astral is greatly threatened by the ongoing spiritual evolution of the human race.
    It will do all that it can to induce fear and tempt people away from spiritual progress.

    Some thing also to be aware of is that before the third eye begins to open there is a certain naivety, forgiving is one thing, condoning some thing else.
    The spiritually advanced is astute and exercises extreme discernment.
    The spiritual path is not all hearts and roses.

    Love Chris
    Chris, you touched the point here.
    All I am trying to say is that we`re dealing with things totally unaware of their state of being. We know the info about them (but even that just partially) ,but we can`t really say what are they...

    And we`re in the process of learning... Everything is being thrown upon us ,most of the times we can`t cope with all- and that`s the thing they wish ... When you are overwhelmed ,you succumb.

    Wars and fights and swords ...those things are just figures of speech to explain emotional and mental daily struggles of all.
    A day will dawn when we will overcome,all that "their names are found in book of life"-(another figure of speech...).
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    John,
    I understand what you wish to say and think that we`re speaking about similar things. But from a different angle.
    Also Kriya said thing that is very true. Ultimately if we choose light ,we win. We then became sons & daughters of God. But until the moment of our glorification we are attacked non stop . In order to be stopped and diverted from our decision to choose light.
    Until a day comes when Creator say : "it`s finally enough ! " -we will not find our complete rest from attacks. Attacks in all imaginable ways...Wars and fights ,despite being sometimes just figures of speech ,are really happening,it`s just we don`t talk about them.
    A talk would help since then we `d start to overcome the deceits thrown upon us...
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    John,
    Ultimately if we choose light ,we win. We then became sons & daughters of God. But until the moment of our glorification we are attacked non stop . In order to be stopped and diverted from our decision to choose light.
    We are all sons & daughters of God, but are we all aware of this? How many of us are in touch with the deeper soul that is ourself, that is our true self, while we inhabit the corporeal body? How many of us can go in a day-to-day existence living with the temptations thrown at him, and living with everything that he has? Lord Jesus could have said, "Stop, no, I refuse to go through this!" But he did not. Therefore, that is why he is different from us.

    He is what we all can be however, it requires knowledge and a pure heart.
    This is what we all must strive for. It is possible. Jesus said he is the Way.
    If we can but open our eyes and our hearts, we should see this.
    Lord Jesus showed us that it is possible to grow.
    That in order to escape and to attain the freedom and the knowledge of love, that you (soul) must grow (evolve).
    In the end He came to save us from ourselves. Don't believe it? Look around...

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    If I could just add... the word 'attack' assumes there is something to defend. Perhaps 'test' is a better word to use. This way you see the challenge as something of a puzzle to solve, hill to climb etc. An opportunity.

    It is unfortunate in my view that 'fight' language seems to permeate Christian language and teachings (this has been my experience). This style of language has a sneaky and subtle way of changing the intent from one of non-resistance to that of heavy resistance. War, battle, fight, casting out, damn you satan and so on. All fully counter to the teachings of Jesus.

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