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    Lately I'm having these profound reoccurring realizations of really obvious things. This may sound somewhat weird, but I'm just stunned by the fact i'm alive, that I'm part of all of this, that I'm here, in a body, seeing all these forms and colors, god knows why, that its actually happening....
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    on darkness and light by Randy Eady:

    Wisdom is seen with an open eye:
    The physicists among us may say darkness is just the absence of light - but that's because they haven't realized (or forgot) true darkness is not just the absence of light. It manifests as a source of its own - enveloping, sometimes consuming those in its path. In itself, neither good nor evil, but darkness's strength and power can be terrifying and all-consuming.
    Light and darkness as in life and death, are inseparable. You'll not have one without the other. They are present at the same moment in the same space; only our measure separates them. Without our perceptual middle there's no boundary; only the observer making a measurement. As neither the light light, nor darkness darkness, death is not death as life is life: each one dissolves into its primal origin.
    Quantifying substantive qualities such as brightness & giving them units helps us order our perception but their privative duals are only relative, i.e., no matter how bright it may be it's always dark relative to some exponentially brighter aspect. That's sometimes used to argue "brightness" as meaningless or really a failing of "darkness".
    To embrace this from a spiritual viewpoint, it's darkness that remains present at all times, but not perceptible in the presence of light. Light obscures darkness. Darkness remains where light cannot reach while the reverse is not true. Darkness requires no source, light comes from something & somewhere. The source of light can be veiled to then appear as a source of darkness.
    Let's look at it another way: The Roman philosopher Seneca noted, "an educated man experiences more in a day than an uneducated man in a lifetime."
    Which suggests ignorance can be quantified as a form of prevailing darkness in like fashion. We speak of people being dim but it is also a privative quality as compared to knowledge (education) which can be quantified to some extent only in relation to bits of accumulated, insightful information -- that relates to perceptual experience.

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    Quote Posted by annacherie (here)
    on darkness and light by Randy Eady:

    Wisdom is seen with an open eye:
    The physicists among us may say darkness is just the absence of light - but that's because they haven't realized (or forgot) true darkness is not just the absence of light. It manifests as a source of its own - enveloping, sometimes consuming those in its path. In itself, neither good nor evil, but darkness's strength and power can be terrifying and all-consuming.
    Light and darkness as in life and death, are inseparable. You'll not have one without the other. They are present at the same moment in the same space; only our measure separates them. Without our perceptual middle there's no boundary; only the observer making a measurement. As neither the light light, nor darkness darkness, death is not death as life is life: each one dissolves into its primal origin.
    Quantifying substantive qualities such as brightness & giving them units helps us order our perception but their privative duals are only relative, i.e., no matter how bright it may be it's always dark relative to some exponentially brighter aspect. That's sometimes used to argue "brightness" as meaningless or really a failing of "darkness".
    To embrace this from a spiritual viewpoint, it's darkness that remains present at all times, but not perceptible in the presence of light. Light obscures darkness. Darkness remains where light cannot reach while the reverse is not true. Darkness requires no source, light comes from something & somewhere. The source of light can be veiled to then appear as a source of darkness.
    Let's look at it another way: The Roman philosopher Seneca noted, "an educated man experiences more in a day than an uneducated man in a lifetime."
    Which suggests ignorance can be quantified as a form of prevailing darkness in like fashion. We speak of people being dim but it is also a privative quality as compared to knowledge (education) which can be quantified to some extent only in relation to bits of accumulated, insightful information -- that relates to perceptual experience.

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    Very true. Hence this long thread that I started a while ago about spiritual encounters of all kind. Since all carries some bandwidth of frequency- we feel which one is it.
    And by the very nature of the frequency, beings manifest coated in light or darkness or in-between.
    Ones that appear as monsters or other forms are carrying the low bandwidth.

    Since the nature of spirit is manifold and fluid I suggest that encounters with with spirit world is happening non stop but we may think if only I see a ghost or an angel or a demon (frequencies of various beings) I encounter the spirit world.

    What about inspiration, creativity and else, beauty?

    All tuning up to the certain bandwidth of spirit which is all around us.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    This is exactly what seems to be going in the background, while our attention, in this reality, has been diverted to all other directions. We seem to be busy with everything else, except with the most important issue, which somehow goes below the threshold of our (conditioned) perception. In this reality, the war for our souls is going on for quite a while and we seem to be unaware of this!?

    According to the Eastern Gnosis, on this planet ~50% of people have individual souls, while there are sources which state that the souled part of humanity is even much smaller. People without souls are called anthropoids, preadamics, sons of god, organic portals, matrix agents etc.

    Russian esotericist Gurdjieff was saying at some of his lectures that soulless people could obtain an individual soul, if they in their lives would mimic the souled people. (Here, we may need to take into account the Epigenetics, as it seems that there is a direct link between the DNA frequency and the soul frequency, so they must resonate.) However, what is happening on this planet, is just the opposite. The souled people are mimicking the soulless ones, with a more or less success. Those who are successful in the mimicking, get divorced from their souls. They loose it. “The control system” (the “soul thieves”) has made the system of living in this reality, the life values etc. in accordance to the needs and purposes of anthropoids, or to their advantage, and the souled people are made just to follow the suit, in order to be “successful” i.e. to establish and maintain an easier existence.
    The mental programs, like religions, spirituality, ideologies etc. are just prerequisites for our living in a condition which is in Easter Gnosis regarded as a sleep or a hypnotic trance.

    Quote Gurdjieff: “Most of people spend whole their lives in a state of sleep. In the state of the sleep, some of them may make themselves busy with science, while others may even write books.”
    And, the state of sleep of the humanity is just a desired condition, from the point of view of the ‘soul thieves”, as they can do to us whatever they want, while we are sleeping.

    And, even, if in the state of sleep, we make ourselves busy with the spirituality, we are getting nowhere, because what we can have in a controlled reality, would be only a - controlled spirituality. A “spirituality-without-the soul”, one may say. (A while ago, I wrote about it – HERE.) So, no surprise that our famous, “enlightened” gurus would never talk about this!? I would even say that most of them have been utilised by the control system as vehicles for a mass-tranquilisation, especially, the tranquilisation of those human beings who managed to escape the classic religious programming and which regard themselves as the “truthseekers”.

    **

    Connecting the dots

    I wrote earlier, under another topics, about the gnostic Parable of the Coach, which depicts a human being pretty accurately, where the coachman is the personality (the mind), the carriage represents the physical body, horses - the spirit and the passenger - the soul. We may say that most of us identify ourselves with the coachman and the carriage, not having a slight idea about other parts of the being, especially the soul and their properties.

    And, the components of the Coach, may be defined like this:

    The passenger or the Soul has been defined in space, in energy and in consciousness, so regarding that she consists from the the space and energy components, she projects itself along the time axis, in order to experience or learn about the spiritual reality. Therefore, a Soul may be incarnated into more human bodies, however, in different times.

    The horses or the Spirit has been defined in time, energy and consciousness, so regarding that it consists from the time and energy components, it projects itself along the space axis, in order to experience or learn about the spiritual reality. Therefore, a Spirit may be incarnated into more human bodies, however, in the same time.

    The coachmen or the Mind has been defined in the space, time and consciousness, so regarding that it consists from the components of the space and time, it projects itself along the energy axis, in order to experience or learn about the spiritual reality.

    (So, these three components can be regarded as the „Holy Trinity“ of a human being.)

    **

    From the above definitions, we may see that the Soul as a component of a human being, has some interesting properties. It has the energy and at the same time, she is eternal, as she exists across the time. It seems that this was the reason for her absence (or the wrong interpretation) in “our” spirit-uality?! As the archontic/alien entities (who comprise so called “control system”) do not have this component (as well as, many humans do not have it), this is what they are after. They are after its energy, and they are after its eternity.

    There are some other properties souls have, and it is a feeling of humanness and conscience (as a FEELING, and not an intellectual term; it often does not have much to do with so called “humanitarian aids”, which are usually employed to mask psychopathological activities in this reality, as a damage control or means for gaining or retaining a control).

    So, one may say that the feeling of humanness would be a platform from which souled or complete human beings would mostly act, and as more awareness they manage to gain, their interaction with the reality will be more optimal.

    However, the problem is that in this reality and other “associated” ones, there are entities which are “incomplete”. They have only the mind and the spirit component. The lack of the soul component they have compensated by developing the mind/intellect and technology. Some of them have bodies, some are bodiless and their existence is dependent on us, or better to say, on those of us who have the souls.

    The alien abduction research, conducted by some Italian scientist over a period of more than 40 years, has revealed that the aliens/archons abduct only the souled humans, in order to use their souls as batteries and to use their bodies for various purposes, such as genome manipulation, in order to make bodies suitable for themselves, which they would be able to inhabit and to bind to them the souls (stolen from us) in order to achieve the eternity. In the meanwhile, they store their “deads” (the alien Spirit/Mind complexes whose physical bodies have expired) in us i.e. into the abductees, in order to keep them alive (they are being fed by the soul energy of an abductee) till a new alien body becomes available to them. (This alien spirit/mind complex stored in an abductee is called AAM – Active Alien Memory; an abductee may not be aware of it, or in some cases he may experience it as his personal “spiritual guide”, a “guardian angel” etc.).

    To make the situation a bit more complicated, some anthropoids (soulless humans) from the top of the power pyramid on this planet, have become aware of these issues and their own mortality due to lack of the soul component, so they have joined the game, as well, trying to obtain the souls for themselves, of course, from those of us who have them. They have developed a sophisticated technology for this.

    For the anthropoids, the only way to improve their performance and survivability, would be what they call – the transhumanism. Merging with the technology. (Their alien mentors and masters may have already achieved it.) So, no surprise that they are steering us all into the direction of a complete enslavement.

    (Current “morgellonization”/nano-implantation, associated with the mass vaccination of the humanity, would be one of the steps, towards achieving this goal)

    So, it could be said that the soulless entities, would they be in human or alien bodies, are dependent on the souled human beings. They need us and we do not need them. However, they can go nowhere without us, as in such a case, they would cease to exist. The technology can not provide them with the soul energy and it can not make them eternal. On the other hand, we do not have to follow them and we do not have to submit to them, if we reach a sufficient awareness. (I did not say - the “enlightenment”, as it seems to be one of their numerous traps!?) We can choose our own way.

    In order to do that, the coachman will need to integrate himself with the all components of the coach. He must develop himself to the degree when he will be able to accomplish the task. (He should not be turned off, excluded, abridged or bypassed, as it is promoted through the new-age spirit-uality.) Once he manages, from his currently, more or less disconnected state, to integrate his being i.e. the physical body with the spirit and the soul, he would be able to start living his life more consciously. In fact, we do not have any other option, if we really want to liberate ourselves.

    I think, the times are coming, when souled people will be suffering more and more a depression, which would be a result of a cognitive dissonance, due to their (conditioned) personalities tending to think and go one way, while the other components would see the reality differently and try to go another way. This can cause a split on the level of one’s being. The passengers (the souls), as conscious entities, may be more aware of the situation, than the coachmen, and when seeing that they steer the coaches towards an abyss, they may first try to warn them, and if the coachmen do not listen, the passengers may jump out of the coach.

    As the reality is holographic, where everything is interconnected, the awareness on the level of the souls may reach a threshold, when a chain reaction may start in terms of their awakening. After a sufficient number of the souls realise that they have become endangered (our souls are at different levels of awareness, as well, as revealed by conversation with them under certain circumstances, such as SIMBAD and FMS sessions), they may provide a resistance on their own level of consciousness (100th monkey syndrome may apply there, as well).

    In the Eastern Gnosis, it was recognised long ago that a human being lives his life in a “disconnected state”, and the whole teaching was designed in a way to help one to connect all his components and to start living consciously. In the meanwhile, some other techniques, such as FDTCT were developed, which may be helpful in achieving the same, if properly understood, by the coachmen.

    To gain a better understanding of this dynamics, we may take some time to have a look at the movie the Never Ending Story, where we could interpret symbolically the child reading the book as our personality, the kid Atreyu as our Spirit component, the luckdragon Falkor as our Mind component and the Childlike Empress, as our Soul component. It is all about the integration of our consciousness through the integration of all our components. (We may see in the move, as well, that all that was happening while the reality was falling apart!?)

    At the end, I would recommend this video lecture, Gaining Consciousness, by Dr Corrado Malanga. Here is the 1st part, out of 25, which can be found on the same youtube channel:



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    Hi there! Excellent Post, you touch on some very curious things! I agree with what you are saying about negative energy forced upon you from nowhere. And with free will, these situations happen all the time to pretty much everyone. The way you win is basically mind/soul over matter! Lol, like for example if a bad customer comes into your store and gives you unwarranted bad attitude. You can either choose to react to this in a positive or a negative way. This separates the good from the bad! Either way why let someone else bring you down to negative spiritual place! Have a great day everyone

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    I feel the same thing exactly,i read, i listen,i watch ok,that's good because you can understand about what's going on.I should start meditate probably but for me the most important thing is to stop all the negative thoughts.Day by day.I can feel my mind full of thoughts and my guts become like feast from anxiety but i want to feel my heart.Not the mind,the heart is what makes us humans,we have to warm our hearts,make them big and open.It's not easy but we can start by trying to love ourselves

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    Quote Posted by Matina (here)
    I feel the same thing exactly,i read, i listen,i watch ok,that's good because you can understand about what's going on.I should start meditate probably but for me the most important thing is to stop all the negative thoughts.Day by day.I can feel my mind full of thoughts and my guts become like feast from anxiety but i want to feel my heart.Not the mind,the heart is what makes us humans,we have to warm our hearts,make them big and open.It's not easy but we can start by trying to love ourselves
    That's beautiful Matina


    Beren this thread title caught my eye because of something that happened to me about a year ago.. I heard a voice like internal dialogue but I was surprised to hear it. It said

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    make no mistake there is a battle for your soul
    It wasn't like my normal thinking chatter. Had a profound effect on me. I'm happy not knowing how or why that happened because the message was clear because I was teetering on the edge of spiritual apathy at the time. I chose the side of good because there's no contest, it was just to make a choice and remind me what no choice would turn out like, perhaps

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    Quote Posted by YoYoYo (here)
    Quote Posted by Matina (here)
    I feel the same thing exactly,i read, i listen,i watch ok,that's good because you can understand about what's going on.I should start meditate probably but for me the most important thing is to stop all the negative thoughts.Day by day.I can feel my mind full of thoughts and my guts become like feast from anxiety but i want to feel my heart.Not the mind,the heart is what makes us humans,we have to warm our hearts,make them big and open.It's not easy but we can start by trying to love ourselves
    That's beautiful Matina


    Beren this thread title caught my eye because of something that happened to me about a year ago.. I heard a voice like internal dialogue but I was surprised to hear it. It said

    Quote Posted by YoYoYosVoicesInHisHead
    make no mistake there is a battle for your soul
    It wasn't like my normal thinking chatter. Had a profound effect on me. I'm happy not knowing how or why that happened because the message was clear because I was teetering on the edge of spiritual apathy at the time. I chose the side of good because there's no contest, it was just to make a choice and remind me what no choice would turn out like, perhaps

    Thank you YoYoYo.

    This thread was created almost 5 years ago and it`s still valid today, more than ever.
    War is being fueled daily but we can choose to take our power back, to close their energy supply thus extinct them.

    In the grand scheme of things, we are perfect and good and love but down the corridors of time and space we strive for many different things and encounter many energy forms which were created by chaotic minds. Challenge is to withstand the pressure from those energies and allow soul to shine forth.

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    Quote Posted by Matina (here)
    I feel the same thing exactly,i read, i listen,i watch ok,that's good because you can understand about what's going on.I should start meditate probably but for me the most important thing is to stop all the negative thoughts.Day by day.I can feel my mind full of thoughts and my guts become like feast from anxiety but i want to feel my heart.Not the mind,the heart is what makes us humans,we have to warm our hearts,make them big and open.It's not easy but we can start by trying to love ourselves

    That is an excellent statement form you- we have to warm our hearts...
    That is the one of the most important decisions one should do.

    What makes us human...heart, soul and flame of God.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    Dealing with this type of things is difficult. Mere try to explain all surrounding fact is almost impossible task for many. However that does not change the fact that a war rages on. A war that is very often unseen . It`s a war for souls.
    Tons of evidence of entities whom reside in another reality or dimension than ours are forcing us to at least think of what is going on in our lives.
    Thoughts, actions and other things are effected by spiritual world more than we are aware of.
    Heard of a phrase that fish stinks from its head?
    Well that could explain the things here. Spirits are controlling majority of people without same people being aware of it.
    Free will is a rule but affecting is not ,hence thoughts are being infused into minds ,patterns of thinking, even vivid pictures or whole conversations- all in order to provoke reaction of people.
    Then when people react ,they mostly do it blindly erring or doing things which they regret afterwards.

    Whenever you do good thing, or a good deed, it does not comes unnoticed by all sides. Dark ones then seek to diminish your effort ,to down it. Then they turn to yourself in a form or energy attack or simply by bombarding your mind with negative thoughts, provoking you to do evil.

    As we are physical we can`t deal with them on physical level. But first step in overcoming the enemy is knowledge.
    Knowledge of what is happening and whom is affecting your life in bad way.
    You may think it is this or that but major affecter are spiritual entities.

    That is why this is a war for souls. They wish that humans be enslaved or dead. Why?
    Because human kind are meant to inherit eternal blessings from Creator.
    Bible spoke of that.
    Now forget all that you assume about Bible. Forget all and approach from other angle.
    Story written there is bigger than we ever thought of.
    One of the reasons why that story is blurred or diminished was and is dark ones`s wishes that we as humans never ever raise our head and have knowledge. Hence the history of lies ,murders and all evil to keep the truth out of humanity`s hands.

    But never forget that little thingy ... free will. By free will that is granted to me I choose to know and to be. I choose to live and to love. I choose to have nothing with darkness. I choose to live my life like some people never will, I choose to find kindness ,beauty and truth.

    I hope that you too - who ever you are that reads this lines - will choose wisely.
    Circles that we start always are rounding to our face, some may feel as blessing and other as curse. May you choose knowledge filled with love,tossed with wisdom and justice - first step towards Creator as our everlasting Father.
    Bumping this OP ... Which bears repeating.

    Note I had delightful conversation with my friend Milo (Beren) last evening, and want to give
    an acknowledgement of his wisdom and always loving caring spirit for those of us here ...

    He's one of the originals still holding space here at Avalon !
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    Thank you Gio!

    It`s been 6 years since I started this thread. It`s even more valid now. War still rages on but on the highest levels of divine existence - there is only Love ...with capital L.
    But that doesn`t change the fact that as you go down towards bodily experience, your perception of life changes and some beings wages war on others for various reasons.
    All wars are spiritual in essence and it`s the fight for energy.

    Thus friends, let`s grow in the highest - Love. Love is the only thing there is and that is.
    Everything else is an illusion of a kind. Nevetheless we experience the illusion. But let us not be captured by it.

    Greybeard- your wisdom is a beacon that shines across the stars.
    Gio- your essence still shows the way to many- because you`re the kindler-the star remembrance kindler.

    There are many more such as Lionhawk as my brother in arms...
    And many others... Love to you all.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Love Love Love and see what happens
    has been a guide to me through difficult times that come into everyones life.

    Good to see you posting Beren--Brother of another mother.

    Much love
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    I have some cause for concern in my live. it started at the age of 12 when I first left my mothers in California to live with my father in Spokane Washington. I have been tormented for years at night when I try to sleep. it started as a feeling of an absolute horrifying evil presence that would fill the room, so horrifying that I couldn't scream or breath. sometimes it would hit the wall next to my head with the intensity of a hammer hitting (my bedroom was in the basement underground) and some times it would feel as if a thousand pounds of weight was holding me down. I spent most of my childhood and teenagehood after that sleeping with the light on out of fear of it coming. between the feelings and waking up in the middle of the night paralyzed I become so accustomed to it that I would try to ignore it, so in order to get itself recognized it would also shake the bed and hit my pillows at times. I dealt with this for years and at times it would go away for months only to come back again. I became sick about fifteen years ago which I attribute to the spiritual presence. after going to doctors and hospitals for years without being diagnosed, tested for thousands of diseases, I just gave up going. it became apparent that it was tied in with the cause because different women that I have been in relationships started to experience parts of the symptoms as well as being tormented by my ENTITY.I know that it has tried to keep me from progressing spiritually because I used to be pretty proficient at getting out of my body (astral projection) and for a long time it seemed like there was a block after I became sick and one night I distinctly remember feeling the presence of itinthe room while I was trying to get out just about four years ago and for te first time ever it attacked me physically, I remember laying there next to my ex tracy and feeling the presence of the entity and so I just ignored it. about thirty seconds later it felt as if an etheric form reached into my stomach and "for lack of a better word" tickled me with horrific intensity as if some form of electricity was balled up in my stomach and because of that night I still have a hard time sleeping n my back out of fear that it will attack me, like there is a muscle memory of fear every time I lay down on my back.
    The reason that I'm writing this is because I would like to know what is going on with me. I used to be one of the most loving people that you would ever meet, I did have my faults like everyone else, but I genuinely cared for everyone, I used to have a huge heart and I don't know if it's between some of the really hard traumas that I have had in my life and being so sick and being in so much pain for so many years that I didn't even want to live anymore, but I want my heart back. not that it's completely gone (I'm not a robot) it's just that I'm very distant even from myself and when I feel like I'm going to cry, it won't come out. I have even tried lol.
    another thing is,I feel lately as if I'm being visited by aliens. and they don't feel as if they are benevolent either. I looked up a list of symptoms of abductees and I have all of them out of like 80 symptoms accept for maybe three.

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    You were talking about spirits taking advantage over the soul OP.

    These are the same Archons, the archons are shadow spirits, they are shady like. These spirits if you don't notice them, they will guide you without your knowing to have some fun, smoke, drink alcohol, do some drugs, party hard. On your expense of course, because when you have fun they have fun too on your back, when you eat they eat too, when you smoke, drink do drugs, they do it too on your tab.

    When you notice them, they will become tyranical towards you, the Archons have been defined as Yellow Lions.
    Their job is to help you harvest your self, in preparation for the Higher Echelons so they can collect your belongings.
    The higher Archons (or God) call it what you want are the parents of the small lion archon that they put on you.

    Archons are nothing but parasitical beings living in the shadow of one self, if you look at your shadow picture it full of archons.

    Quote I became sick about fifteen years ago which I attribute to the spiritual presence. after going to doctors and hospitals for years without being diagnosed, tested for thousands of diseases, I just gave up going. it became apparent that it was tied in with the cause because different women that I have been in relationships started to experience parts of the symptoms as well as being tormented by my ENTITY.I know that it has tried to keep me from progressing spiritually because I used to be pretty proficient at getting out of my body (astral projection) and for a long time it seemed like there was a block after I became sick and one night I distinctly remember feeling the presence of itinthe room while I was trying to get out just about four years ago and for te first time ever it attacked me physically, I remember laying there next to my ex tracy and feeling the presence of the entity and so I just ignored it. about thirty seconds later it felt as if an etheric form reached into my stomach and "for lack of a better word" tickled me with horrific intensity as if some form of electricity was balled up in my stomach and because of that night I still have a hard time sleeping n my back out of fear that it will attack me, like there is a muscle memory of fear every time I lay down on my back.
    Don't go, they will lable you schizo and you will only make it worst for your self, they are all controled by them anyway, all of them. Who is embeded into this social structure to the core of it, , the bad food , work robot program, the life style, who follows all of these things are all under their control.

    They can do anything they want with the people on the streets, I see it everyday how everyone is just a puppet playing a role.You can't get rid of them, only if you are very good at your practice.

    They have picked you because you chose to practice spiritual stuff, meditation, spiritual work and this will grant you freedom, and once you st.art practicing this things they will be all over you in an instance, because it's like you escaping from prison. Who practices these things will get a visit from them, because you are no longer under their control.

    So the Archonic grid line is made up of their children, that are small parasitical entities that they infest you with, implant you with, little parasitical entities.
    And then the elder archons (aka god).Among them there are some vile entities that are very old, for them it does not matter, only age matter.

    For example take an example of a man, let's say he';s been a thief all his life, he did wrong things, cheated, took things from others, like their personal belongings and now that he has reached 80 years of age he wants respect from everyone that is younger than him, simply because he is older than them.

    So respect based on age, not on what you did in your life or whatever that is. These elder spirits are posing as the chief grand creator of everything, and they want to be respected for being OLD. Of course you have to bee a fool to respect them, once you find out who "GOD" is and notice it is them then they will come over to demand respect and that you follow what they say, you know a guide to living, like pay taxes to them and tribute so they can thrive off of you, don't tell who they are, continue to reffer to them as "GOD the elder" Be a good coward, and submit to what they want, follow their ways, from now on you will get instruction from them on what to do.

    In reality these are the criminal old serpent gods, shadow gods, the saturnial gods.
    You simply have to learn how to ignore them, ignore people who they put on you to do stuff like get in your face, or talk behind you while you are walking.

    Ignore them, ignore their society, ignore everything, don't give a f.uck about their children that they are growing here on earth with Yellow T-shirts.

    It's my aspiration, to become a total unconviniance for this social structure. It's what I plan to do, total ignore + I don't give a **** mentality, it's the only way I tell you. If they send someone begging in front of you and you know they sent him, tell him you don't give a s.hit about him. They got people begging in front of the church, if you give these people money they will come for you because they know you are giving, so you need to become greedy.

    You need to become greedy
    You need to stop giving a s.hit about people who love this system and who want to remain part of it.
    You need to totally go ignore mode.
    Only pursuit what is of your interest.
    When they rush to ask for your help say no, they will send people to do coumunity work like, let's decide this or that.

    Stop eating animal products, they love when you eat these things, they will feast off of you when you do so + thing about the poor animals that suffer.

    I often asked my self what kind of world we live in, I looked how animals are domesticated to be profited from, a domesticated animal will not fight back.
    I then looked at the other animals that are not part of the food industry, animals that they torture, keep in cages inside the labs, to give them cancer, aids, torture them, break stuff in them see how they react, these things are done for test consumer products, so PIGS who do not care get to use them in this social garbage.

    I then concluded very sharp who runs this place, Who runs this place ? GOD does, how come god allows and wants these things....me in my mind: because it is a farm house you dumb ass for harvest, ohhh yeah I said to my self. Then who is god, god is a bitch and an ass at the same time Is said, but more than a bitch I think an asshole goon.

    I understood who god is, that it is one of those shadows, that we have been sold bull**** on a candy stick. Once you find out the truth they will hate you.
    So this god is an old serpent spirit, it is them actually, because it's not only one, it is many elders, the elder spirit gods I call them. It is most likeley that these are the spirits bothering you, probaly 90% chance it's these elder garbage gods


    Putting things in balances and checks, how do we get rid of them, answer WE DON'T.
    We can't because probaly this forum and other such forums with people who take measures are only few in numbers.

    For example on this forum only probally 30% will take any actions, the rest are readers, now picture out of these forums and debate sites how many are there.

    Out of the total human population, only a few will care about anything, only a few will change anything. They will continue to thrive on other living things not caring where their meet comes from, or what happens to those animals in test facilities, or that our world has become a total dump house poluted, with forests cut down.

    I was looking the other day on Google Earth on the forests cut down, I was amazed how much was cut down.

    So the solution is only one with regrets "HUMAN EXCTINCTION" with the people who can make it on their own, the ones who can make it who still care about things, who can addapt back to nature or better put who can stay without the well fare of the system.

    This is the only solution, there are no other viable solutions here if you really look at everything. It will just continue the same with them feeding off of others, and those people feeding off of the live animal stock with torturing animals, and abusing them, F-ing up the planet for personal gain and greed.

    I mean let's face it, the majority does not care at all, they don't I can see it everyday when I go outside the house, all they care is about how to profit from smaller beings that they can impose on. They look more and more like these vile old gods.

    Humanity has become a SNAKE LION.

    If you look at the archons pictures you will see a Lion with the body of a serpent

    It is most like this is what has been bothering you.


    It's what has become of humanity also.
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    thank you for the input sparrow. but I will still choose to be giving to whom I choose. there are times that I was in need and I count it a blessing to find others in need like the times that I have been in need. I do understand your description of what they look like. I had a lot of ot of body experiences when I was younger and I remember that I woke p ot of body one day. I went to wrap my arm around my girlfriend that I had at the time and my arm went through her head and then I realized that I was out of body. then when I looked next to the bed there was an 8 foot or so tall pitch black figre that was staring at me and this thing was, pure hatred and fear and evil. the kind that can take yor breath away. I don't know if this is the one that has bothered me for years bt it was definitely in HATE with me.
    does anyone else have any info on this ?

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    The archons are shadow beings, so it is them. The figure shady figure you saw was an archon. Also don't fall for the blonde scheme, blond is not white, it's yellow and it is a representation of the archons.

    Yellow wasps, golden color , archonic gold, this is a rerpesentation of them. They rule the world, talk thru people, they can use you as a puppet, no one has independence, they corrupted everything, they feast on the back of everyone, humanity is in a deplorable state, most of it will not make it.

    They only have tricks and games, hate, and most people on this earth resemble them, because they have been infested by them, they are becoming archonic, they live in a make pretend world, like the archons desire them to, take away all the nice toys, and you will see humanity in dificulty and most people will become dishonest and cheat.

    So humanity = ZERO VALUE
    But I'm sure the few, some will not act this way, and it is to those people I wish luck.

    A message to all sort of speak, you are with humanity you are with the archons, it's time to unhuman your self and strive to become something else, a better being.
    Well I could put it the other way around, few remain human, and the rest are clowns walking on the street, **** clowns, I don't like clowns.
    But since the majority represents humanity, then don;'t follow them, don't do what humans do.

    They showed you all this stuff, because there is something inside of you that they want, otherwise they would not showed to you.
    There is a reason, for haps you can stand up a little bit and control some aspects of your life, this is another reason why they might of showed up to you, since they don't like people controling aspects of their lives. It is one of these reasons.

    Just now I was outside, and this blonde was laughing like a bitch outside like she had them inside of her, and they spoke thru her with me, "be a good boy" she was disgusting. "good boy means to submit to them" do what they say, so don;'t. I see them all the time, with the ugly people they hide behind.

    Everytime I walk outside, they put people that they fully control to talk to me.
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    Quote That is why this is a war for souls. They wish that humans be enslaved or dead. Why?
    Because human kind are meant to inherit eternal blessings from Creator.
    It's the other way they must make sure everyone is a human, a mortal man and does not gain spiritual insight.
    The more human you are, the more weak you will become, what IS A MAN ? he is a mortal, is man of the forests, he is not, he was but he became more and more man.
    So I can see man is regarded rather as an industrial being.
    Man is flawed, it has flaws, it is corrupted with ease.

    The whole point of this battle is to make sure you remain a mere mortal human and do not advance. So the label "human" is stamped on everyone, let's all be more human, lets all die.

    The soul is not of mortals, so the man-human is of the world, but the soul is not of it. So by becoming 100% man you are of the world. Man the worldly being that returns to the earth once he is done, out of the dust he came, dust he becomes. What did Jesus say, do not become one with the world. Man will eat the soul, he is a soul eater, he will eat his self and his soul will become dust.

    What is the fear of evolving beyond your human limitations, the soul not the man, evolution towards that, towards a being that can live on this earth yet preserve his soul sprite aspect, but the only problem that arises is that that being is no longer a human being.

    So the question is, do you want to remain here or do something else, or do you want to continue to exist on coal, eat coal, get heated by coal, eat petrolium, heat with petrolium, consume petrolium, chop down forests to heat, eat lots of meat. It's only human, that is what a man does he will try to exist in this fashion in the future only to ensure his doom and die off before passing stupidity along to his next generation of children for others to do just the same from heritage.

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    "Wear the world like a loose garment. " attributed to Jesus.

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    Quote Posted by justmagick (here)
    I have some cause for concern in my live. it started at the age of 12 when I first left my mothers in California to live with my father in Spokane Washington. I have been tormented for years at night when I try to sleep. it started as a feeling of an absolute horrifying evil presence that would fill the room, so horrifying that I couldn't scream or breath. sometimes it would hit the wall next to my head with the intensity of a hammer hitting (my bedroom was in the basement underground) and some times it would feel as if a thousand pounds of weight was holding me down. I spent most of my childhood and teenagehood after that sleeping with the light on out of fear of it coming. between the feelings and waking up in the middle of the night paralyzed I become so accustomed to it that I would try to ignore it, so in order to get itself recognized it would also shake the bed and hit my pillows at times. I dealt with this for years and at times it would go away for months only to come back again. I became sick about fifteen years ago which I attribute to the spiritual presence. after going to doctors and hospitals for years without being diagnosed, tested for thousands of diseases, I just gave up going. it became apparent that it was tied in with the cause because different women that I have been in relationships started to experience parts of the symptoms as well as being tormented by my ENTITY.I know that it has tried to keep me from progressing spiritually because I used to be pretty proficient at getting out of my body (astral projection) and for a long time it seemed like there was a block after I became sick and one night I distinctly remember feeling the presence of itinthe room while I was trying to get out just about four years ago and for te first time ever it attacked me physically, I remember laying there next to my ex tracy and feeling the presence of the entity and so I just ignored it. about thirty seconds later it felt as if an etheric form reached into my stomach and "for lack of a better word" tickled me with horrific intensity as if some form of electricity was balled up in my stomach and because of that night I still have a hard time sleeping n my back out of fear that it will attack me, like there is a muscle memory of fear every time I lay down on my back.
    The reason that I'm writing this is because I would like to know what is going on with me. I used to be one of the most loving people that you would ever meet, I did have my faults like everyone else, but I genuinely cared for everyone, I used to have a huge heart and I don't know if it's between some of the really hard traumas that I have had in my life and being so sick and being in so much pain for so many years that I didn't even want to live anymore, but I want my heart back. not that it's completely gone (I'm not a robot) it's just that I'm very distant even from myself and when I feel like I'm going to cry, it won't come out. I have even tried lol.
    another thing is,I feel lately as if I'm being visited by aliens. and they don't feel as if they are benevolent either. I looked up a list of symptoms of abductees and I have all of them out of like 80 symptoms accept for maybe three.

    It seems to me that your DNA imprint has a value for this parasitic entity that haunts you.
    Confront it. Openly take courage within your being and claim your power over yourself back. Forbid it to take your energy away and if it stalk you, you go ahead and stal it, follow it everywhere and burn the energy bridge that it uses against you.

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    Quote That is why this is a war for souls. They wish that humans be enslaved or dead. Why?
    Because human kind are meant to inherit eternal blessings from Creator.
    It's the other way they must make sure everyone is a human, a mortal man and does not gain spiritual insight.
    The more human you are, the more weak you will become, what IS A MAN ? he is a mortal, is man of the forests, he is not, he was but he became more and more man.
    So I can see man is regarded rather as an industrial being.
    Man is flawed, it has flaws, it is corrupted with ease.

    The whole point of this battle is to make sure you remain a mere mortal human and do not advance. So the label "human" is stamped on everyone, let's all be more human, lets all die.

    The soul is not of mortals, so the man-human is of the world, but the soul is not of it. So by becoming 100% man you are of the world. Man the worldly being that returns to the earth once he is done, out of the dust he came, dust he becomes. What did Jesus say, do not become one with the world. Man will eat the soul, he is a soul eater, he will eat his self and his soul will become dust.

    What is the fear of evolving beyond your human limitations, the soul not the man, evolution towards that, towards a being that can live on this earth yet preserve his soul sprite aspect, but the only problem that arises is that that being is no longer a human being.

    So the question is, do you want to remain here or do something else, or do you want to continue to exist on coal, eat coal, get heated by coal, eat petrolium, heat with petrolium, consume petrolium, chop down forests to heat, eat lots of meat. It's only human, that is what a man does he will try to exist in this fashion in the future only to ensure his doom and die off before passing stupidity along to his next generation of children for others to do just the same from heritage.
    It is good that you are aware of what`s going on behind the scenes. Continue empowering yourself with real knowledge and cut all energetic ties with them. They are parasites whom are interested in our life energy because they are cut from Source of life`s energy.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Good to see you posting Beren.
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    Good to see you too brother! Seems like many are in the state of awareness and waiting. Just being and observing. Waking up is a process on personal level and on massive level.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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