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    sure we can Chris

    maybe not legions - but our own forsaken guardian Angel


    Yes we agree RedeZra but in the context of the reply we cant call on legions as Jesus can.
    Mine is over worked. He/ she had to learn to swim to be of service to me. Lol
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    Chris ,
    do you see now how precious we are in the eye of Creator?
    Can you fathom our importance before Lord of all?

    And can you realize why a war is waged against us ?
    A terrible bloody war since a dawn of time against ones whom will inherit the kingdom!
    We must never forget that as we travel on our road toward God. Ultimately Love is all there is. Creator's impulse was love when he created us. Now we learn about all ,about principles of our being ,about us -because we are his Children.
    Oh yes Beren rest assured I know.
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    Mine is over worked. He/ she had to learn to swim to be of service to me. Lol
    nah I don't think you give your Angel too much trouble lol

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    A question;

    Why ,in your opinion, Jesus stated to Peter in the moment before arrest- do you not think that I could ask for 12 legions of angels from my Father to aid me now?

    But nevertheless he did not ask for it...

    Why?
    Timing is everything..

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    Quote Posted by celine (here)
    Timing is everything..
    tnx for throwing the cliches around as if they were perfumed petals for us to whiff lol

    smile Celine Im just joking
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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    He could see through veil that we can not and who knows whom wished so badly that Jesus do a wrong thing then. Then evil would have lasting excuse before Creator of that error.
    Just think of a way to exploit the possible err by Christ at that very moment.
    this is a good point Beren

    we are not free if we give in to temptations - but slaves of the senses


    Jesus talked the talk walked the walk and points to the path

    we are free if we talk the truth and walk the way of love and light - like masters of mind
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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    this is a good point Beren

    we are not free if we give in to temptations - but slaves of the senses


    Jesus talked the talk walked the walk and points to the path

    we are free if we talk the truth and walk the way of love and light - like masters of mind

    Good reasoning RedeZra.
    It's about mastering your being to a level of Christ.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    A question;

    Why ,in your opinion, Jesus stated to Peter in the moment before arrest- do you not think that I could ask for 12 legions of angels from my Father to aid me now?

    But nevertheless he did not ask for it...

    Why?
    In order to demonstrate the power of love and God's nature of love and forgiveness.

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    you got it almost right at the top - you left out Truth

    at the conclusion you got it - Congratulation


    now never leave out Truth any more but include it with Love

    Remember it takes 2 wings to fly high
    Realize that the intellect can never know Truth. Truth can only come from within. It is vast, infinite, beyond words.
    How can you describe Love using words? You can describe the feelings associated with Love, but you can't verbalize Love itself. Unfortunately many can not understand that Love is everything.

    Remember it takes Love to change everything...
    Unity Consciousness
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    Free your mind, and open your heart to LOVE.
    You'll then become enlightened able to just BE.

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    Quote Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
    Realize that the intellect can never know Truth. Truth can only come from within. It is vast, infinite, beyond words.
    How can you describe Love using words? You can describe the feelings associated with Love, but you can't verbalize Love itself. Unfortunately many can not understand that Love is everything.

    Remember it takes Love to change everything...
    Realize that the emotions can never feel Love
    Love can only come from within - It is vast infinite beyond feelings

    How can you describe Truth using feelings ?
    You can describe the thoughts associated with Truth but you can't emotionalize Truth itself Unfortunately many can not understand that Love and Truth goes hand in hand in everything

    Remember it takes Love and Truth to change everything...


    that's right Dan - Love and Truth

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    Quote Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
    How can you describe Love using words? You can describe the feelings associated with Love, but you can't verbalize Love itself.
    Unfortunately many can not understand that Love is everything.

    Remember it takes Love to change everything...
    Let me try defining love with words.
    1. Love is an emotion.
    2. Love is a drive to be united with the love subject. Enjoyment with the presence or closeness of the subject.
    3. The subject of love can be: animate being, substance, spirit being, condition.
    4. Love differ from affection, with the drive for unification.

    I agree that love is the power of creation. I would add that any strong emotion has the creative power.
    It is also studied that most powerful (and opposing) emotions are love and fear.
    We utilize the fear emotion to contract and solidify polarized/dualistic creation.

    As long as we are in physical body we are bounded to duality (fear/love). So better make the best out of it. And feed the wolf of love. The wolf of fear will always be there.
    Last edited by PathWalker; 10th July 2010 at 23:25.
    We are playing a virtual reality game, of duality. In the game of choices, align your choices with your ideals. Everything is whole, complete and perfect. Even yourself. Love is the power to change/create.

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    Quote Posted by PathWalker (here)
    Let me try defining love with words.
    1. Love is an emotion.
    2. Love is a drive to be united with the love subject. Enjoyment with the presence or closeness of the subject.
    3. The subject of love can be: animate being, substance, spirit being, condition.
    4. Love differ from affection, with the drive for unification.

    I agree that love is the power of create. I would add that any strong emotion has the creative power.
    It is also studied that most powerful (and opposing) emotions are love and fear.
    We utilize the fear emotion to contract and solidify polarized/dualistic creation.

    As long as we are in physical body we are bounded to duality (fear/love). So better make the best out of it. And feed the wolf of love. The wolf of fear will always be there.

    Just think of this; we `re placed on this beautiful planet to learn . We weren`t placed on some rock in space, we are on amazing place.
    That tells you that one who wish us to learn about love and truth is wishing us well.

    Now learning about Love is a prime factor in life. Everything is doomed if it`s not colored & infused with Love. We will begin to understand God on the very moment we learn about divine language of Love. It`s a process and a tough one. But worthy of effort.
    Tomorrow when you realize that you will be able to create a planet or to create another life... it will be amazing!
    But first things first!
    "Love thy neighbor as yourself"
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Quote Posted by PathWalker (here)
    Let me try defining love with words.
    1. Love is an emotion.
    2. Love is a drive to be united with the love subject. Enjoyment with the presence or closeness of the subject.
    3. The subject of love can be: animate being, substance, spirit being, condition.
    4. Love differ from affection, with the drive for unification.

    I agree that love is the power of creation. I would add that any strong emotion has the creative power.
    It is also studied that most powerful (and opposing) emotions are love and fear.
    We utilize the fear emotion to contract and solidify polarized/dualistic creation.

    As long as we are in physical body we are bounded to duality (fear/love). So better make the best out of it. And feed the wolf of love. The wolf of fear will always be there.
    Good try, PathWalker. Now try defining God the Creator

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    You'll then become enlightened able to just BE.

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    Quote Posted by Beren (here)
    That tells you that one who wish us to learn about love and truth is wishing us well.
    In order to learn the value of love, one need to feel the opposite. That is way we are in duality. We learn mostly by pain and struggle.
    One fails to appreciate health until being ill, Safety until being robbed, plenty until being poor...
    Hope you get the idea. We are here to experience it all. All aspects of creation. The full spectrum of emotions and physical experiences.
    God/Creator/Cosmos/Nature... has no preference of good or bad.
    The predator is not preferred/better to the pray.
    It is a role game (like D&D, second life).

    The game rules are spiritual rules. Mainly karma, compassion and forgiveness (which are actually one).
    We are here to serve and play well (not necessarily be nice to each other), each one of us has a sacred role in the game. We participate in the role coordination meetings when we are asleep. We express our free will in the role coordination meetings and the instant response we have to life events.

    Play well and remember to feed the love wolf, the fear/hate wold will take care for himself.
    We are playing a virtual reality game, of duality. In the game of choices, align your choices with your ideals. Everything is whole, complete and perfect. Even yourself. Love is the power to change/create.

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    Well, at least interesting line of thinking Pathwalker :-)
    An error becomes an error in you constantly repeat it, if you like it and impose it on others as a good thing. Meanwhile if you learn from it then it`s an experience.
    Love, love and see what happens!

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    Quote Posted by PathWalker (here)
    ...Love is an emotion...
    Love is an emotion or it is what causes the emotion when it passes?

    Namaste, Steven

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    Quote Posted by Steven
    Love is an emotion or it is what causes the emotion when it passes?

    Namaste, Steven

    love and hate are emotions - truth and false are thoughts


    love like falling in love is a feeling an emotion as passion

    love is affection and also attachments - love is a lot of things


    truth as a flash of insight is a remembrance a thought as intuition

    truth is principle and also presuppositions - truth is a lot of things


    capital Love and capital Truth are attributes of the Infinite consciousness


    love and truth are feelings and perceptions - as through a glass darkly - into the Infinite consciousness



    Namaste

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    Realize that the emotions can never feel Love
    Love can only come from within - It is vast infinite beyond feelings

    How can you describe Truth using feelings ?
    You can describe the thoughts associated with Truth but you can't emotionalize Truth itself Unfortunately many can not understand that Love and Truth goes hand in hand in everything

    Remember it takes Love and Truth to change everything...


    that's right Dan - Love and Truth
    My dear RedEzra, you like to play devil's advocate, I see.
    Truth is a way not a destination, like harmony, peace, kindness, faith, etc. which are parts of it.
    Unconditional Love on the other hand is a destination because it is what defines God, and we are parts of IT.
    Conclusion... Love contains IT all. Namaste ~ ~

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    Quote Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
    My dear RedEzra, you like to play devil's advocate, I see.
    Truth is a way not a destination, like harmony, peace, kindness, faith, etc. which are parts of it.
    Unconditional Love on the other hand is a destination because it is what defines God, and we are parts of IT.
    Conclusion... Love contains IT all. Namaste ~ ~

    Dan

    dear Dan


    the devil does not want us to know Truth - for then we would be free from his lies

    God is more than Love - He is Truth too and Light



    love without truth is blind

    truth without love is lame



    now go and sin no more lol


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    - almost forgot Namaste -
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    the devil does not want us to know Truth - for then we would be free from his lies
    What is truth for you, might not be necessarily for me RedeZra...
    Truth is respecting other people too. For you might be irrelevant, as for me is truth.
    Here is a short definition of who the devil really is, my friend. Peace and eternal Love to you.
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    You'll then become enlightened able to just BE.

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    Quote Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
    What is truth for you, might not be necessarily for me RedeZra...
    Truth is respecting other people too. For you might be irrelevant, as for me is truth.
    Here is a short definition of who the devil really is, my friend. Peace and eternal Love to you.

    the devil is in the details Dan


    you are quite right in that truth for me is not necessarily truth for you

    but then again I'm not telling you how to live your life either


    truths are thoughts like loves are emotions


    Truth and Love are attributes of God

    which we at best can imitate as best we can til we become it and be it



    - love and light Bro -




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    I respect everyone til they prove unworthy of it - then I respect God in them
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