Tonight on Coast to Coast/ Richard C Hoagland

[jagman]

tonight's show
1am - 5am ET
10pm - 2am PT
Mars & Phobos
Wed 11-30
C2C Science Advisor and head of the Enterprise Mission, Richard C. Hoagland, will discuss the latest American and Russian unmanned efforts to reach Mars. He'll also talk about NASA's "Curiosity" rover, the next generation of massive robotic spacecraft, and the inner Martian moon and the possibility it's more likely to be "an ancient ET spaceship" than an actual natural moon.

I have heard a lot about Hoagland this week on PA. Maybe someone from Pa could call
in and ask Hoagland about some of the accusations?

[Lord Sidious]

I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

[Cartomancer]

I will be noting all of his predictions tonight. It will be interesting to see if he addresses his predictions concerning Elenin and subsequent asteroid threat.

[jagman]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

Lord Sid, For some reason I always have good luck calling into coast.
I need to read through that post about humping Hoagland again so I
can formulate some questions for Hoagy or just send me some questions you want
answered.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by jagman (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

Lord Sid, For some reason I always have good luck calling into coast.
I need to read through that post about humping Hoagland again so I
can formulate some questions for Hoagy or just send me some questions you want
answered.

I lost interest in their show, to be honest.
People who never reply to me tend to lose any respect they might have had.

[Cartomancer]

Posted by jagman (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

Lord Sid, For some reason I always have good luck calling into coast.
I need to read through that post about humping Hoagland again so I
can formulate some questions for Hoagy or just send me some questions you want
answered.

Ask him to address why he made all these erroneous predictions. Ask him why none of them came to pass. Ask him why we should go on trusting anything he says. Thanks.

[jagman]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)

Posted by jagman (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I have sent message after message to George via skype and he never answers.

Lord Sid, For some reason I always have good luck calling into coast.
I need to read through that post about humping Hoagland again so I
can formulate some questions for Hoagy or just send me some questions you want
answered.

Ask him to address why he made all these erroneous predictions. Ask him why none of them came to pass. Ask him why we should go on trusting anything he says. Thanks.

If i get through I will ask him.

[RMorgan]

Hey Jagman,

I would ask:

1-Mr. Hoagland, why do you still trust your sources after they were proven to be wrong on many occasions?

2-Mr.Hoagland, do you think that there´s a possibility that someone is playing you, deliberately giving you fake information trough your sources, in order to discredit the alternative media, or for any other reasons?

That´s all I can think right now...Anyway, if you manage to ask him these questions, I would really like to see his reactions; Will him be humble and assume his mistakes, or will he perform an evasive maneuver?

Good luck,

Raf.

[jagman]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey Jagman,

I would ask:

1-Mr. Hoagland, why do you still trust your sources after they were proven to be wrong on many occasions?

2-Mr.Hoagland, do you think that there´s a possibility that someone is playing you, deliberately giving you fake information trough your sources, in order to discredit the alternative media, or for any other reasons?

That´s all I can think right now...Anyway, if you manage to ask him these
questions, I would really like to see his reactions; Will him be humble and assume his mistakes, or will he perform an evasive maneuver?

Good luck,

Raf.

I like your questions and i will ask if i can get through tonight. Im not sure how all
this will square with George but I think these are good questions that need to be
asked

[Truthseeker512]

Ask him why he believes there are artificial structures on/orbiting Mars, simply from photos decades old, that NO archaeologist has had the opportunity to verify, yet he laughs at the Bosnian Pyramid claim despite there being 100s of archaeologists, physicists, structural engineers, geologists, anthropologists, material scientists etc who are willing to put their professional/academic reputations on the line and confirm Dr Semir Osmanagics discovery.

Lack of 'data' is not a satisfying answer considering there are many, many scientific reports from dozens of universities/academics and NON for the majority of what he makes a living off.



Then ask him if he only made his History Channel 2012 Mayan Special for the cash.


This is a Mayan elder who I met this summer. He came to visit the excavations. There was no doubt in his mind as to the authenticity of the discovery.

[eric charles]

Ask him about those photos from that t.v show , was it UFO digest or something of the sort ,

[Cartomancer]

Great point. I have done some archaeology professionally. I have always wondered about his obsession with structures on Mars when there are so many bizarre things to study and find right here on earth. It seems like a grand distraction. As an author I can also say that if you don't subscribe to issues like structures on Mars and UFO's you are soundly ignored. The truth is much stranger than any theories that involve these things. I think much of this is to cover up the real truth about history. It's like they have created a fairy tale world for all of those that question the status quo.

I'm not saying that UFO's or the structures are not impossible but I think they are being used to create a smokescreen. Hoagland has been one of the main people promoting all of this and he should be scrutinized for it. Bravo to Project Avalon and Bill for putting all of this info out there for us to study and analyze.

[jaybee]

Posted by jagman (here)
tonight's show
1am - 5am ET
10pm - 2am PT
Mars & Phobos
Wed 11-30
C2C Science Advisor and head of the Enterprise Mission, Richard C. Hoagland, will discuss the latest American and Russian unmanned efforts to reach Mars. He'll also talk about NASA's "Curiosity" rover, the next generation of massive robotic spacecraft, and the inner Martian moon and the possibility it's more likely to be "an ancient ET spaceship" than an actual natural moon.

I have heard a lot about Hoagland this week on PA. Maybe someone from Pa could call
in and ask Hoagland about some of the accusations?

thanks jagman....I won't be able to listen to it live, but hopefully it will be up on YouTube fairly soon.


Richard Hoagland, like the rest of us, is not perfect...but I believe he is sincere and has made a massive contribution to the Alternative Media.


I, personally, don't like to see Hoagland bashing on forums like this...but we have to remember that this forum, like any forum dealing with conspiracies etc. will be heavily infiltrated.

Not saying that anyone who disagrees with or bashes Hoagland is a spook...but I am convinced that he is way up in the top section of the spook's hitlist.

I expect the subject of Elenin and YU 55 will come up and it will be interesting to hear what he has to say.

I hope to be able to hear the whole interview asap as I always find Hoagland to be a good and interesting speaker.

cheers

[Daft Ada]

Hi Jagman, I won't be able to listen live either as I am in the UK and asleep then, but I will hear the show next day and I would welcome some delicately put questions of that nature and I would also be very interested if you report back that you were not allowed to ask those sorts of questions

[jagman]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Hi Jagman, I won't be able to listen live either as I am in the UK and asleep then, but I will hear the show next day and I would welcome some delicately put questions of that nature and I would also be very interested if you report back that you were not allowed to ask those sorts of questions

I plan on using a technique that i have used in the past on coast.
When my call is fielded I will ask a question that is not deemed to controversial.
But when i am on the air I will be respectful but will ask Hoagland some questions
he might not want to answer. I have talked to some people who have met Hoagland
and they say he can be quite arrogant.

[RMorgan]

Posted by jaybee (here)

thanks jagman....I won't be able to listen to it live, but hopefully it will be up on YouTube fairly soon.


Richard Hoagland, like the rest of us, is not perfect...but I believe he is sincere and has made a massive contribution to the Alternative Media.


I, personally, don't like to see Hoagland bashing on forums like this...but we have to remember that this forum, like any forum dealing with conspiracies etc. will be heavily infiltrated.

Not saying that anyone who disagrees with or bashes Hoagland is a spook...but I am convinced that he is way up in the top section of the spook's hitlist.

I expect the subject of Elenin and YU 55 will come up and it will be interesting to hear what he has to say.

I hope to be able to hear the whole interview asap as I always find Hoagland to be a good and interesting speaker.

cheers

Dear Jaybee,

Hoagland doesn´t need any infiltrator to ruin his reputation. He´s doing it all by himself.

Anyway, I don´t think he´s a bad person. I just think someone found a way to manipulate him to tell lies believing it´s true.

If the rumors of him being arrogant are correct, this might be the reason. Arrogant persons are egocentric persons, and these kind of persons are the easier to manipulated, with just some sweet ego-massaging mixed with lies.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Cartomancer]

I listened to the show last night. What he has done now is simply morphed his previous theories about Elenin and YU55 into something new. Now the Russian Mars probe and the US mars probe are part of a "secret mission." When pressed to answer questions about his previous claims he denied saying anything about it. I think it may have been Jagman that asked the last question on the show last night. He sidestepped it just like a politician. He basically did not answer the question when challenged about what he thought Elenin was.

It's kind of weird. He simply took his earlier erroneous predictions and simply changed them to fit the two Mars missions. This is B.S. because those missions were known of when he was spreading all the fear porn about Elenin before it passed and he never linked them to what he was saying. Now all of the sudden these two space missions are "part of this theory." He is grasping for straws and simply telling us things based on a bunch of B.S. I was hoping I would be proven wrong last night but he just is not reliable in my judgement. This guy is just an established party line mouthpiece and I am just not buying.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
I listened to the show last night. What he has done now is simply morphed his previous theories about Elenin and YU55 into something new. Now the Russian Mars probe and the US mars probe are part of a "secret mission." When pressed to answer questions about his previous claims he denied saying anything about it. I think it may have been Jagman that asked the last question on the show last night. He sidestepped it just like a politician. He basically did not answer the question when challenged about what he thought Elenin was.

It's kind of weird. He simply took his earlier erroneous predictions and simply changed them to fit the two Mars missions. This is B.S. because those missions were known of when he was spreading all the fear porn about Elenin before it passed and he never linked them to what he was saying. Now all of the sudden these two space missions are "part of this theory." He is grasping for straws and simply telling us things based on a bunch of B.S. I was hoping I would be proven wrong last night but he just is not reliable in my judgement. This guy is just an established party line mouthpiece and I am just not buying.

Jackovesk posted his interview in this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...d--Mars-Phobos...

Hoagland did just like I expected as well. He always does that kind of "morphing" like you said.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Daft Ada]

Hi Jagman, so did you manage to get a question on coast? I heard someone phone in and start asking an awkward question and George obviously switched his mic off and Hoagland gave a very poor explaination and they quickly moved on, was that you?

[Cartomancer]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Hi Jagman, so did you manage to get a question on coast? I heard someone phone in and start asking an awkward question and George obviously switched his mic off and Hoagland gave a very poor explaination and they quickly moved on, was that you?

Ada, check the other thread on this subject. I heard the show and to me it sounded like the last caller was jag. Hoagland sidestepped the question and just simply did not answer it. I think this is the link to the other thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...U55--11-30-11-