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    I watched this documentry earlier on and laughed all the way thru its so ridiculously simple how from the 1980's we have been set up to fall classic 'Problem reaction sollution'
    It shows how by greed and stealth our leaders have stitched us up true and proper....

    When you look at it from our eyes its obvious and I have seen this comming for 20 years and have gave my reasons on other threads.But the population as a whole have no idea. They all know something is wrong but trusted our the leaders.The trouble is as we know on here our leaders have been setting us up for the fall for 30 years since transferring our industrial base to the emerging cheap labour markets of the east, for greater corporate proffits, and other reasons.I don't blame emerging nations for wanting to better themselves , but they are being played as well as us...

    You may not get this outside the UK...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ust_Episode_1/

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    Default Re: BBC...The Parties Over...How The West Went Bust..

    Couldn't get it in the U.S. ... thanks though, Steve. Maybe can find it somewhere else.

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    Default Re: BBC...The Parties Over...How The West Went Bust..

    Thanks Marianne it may air on BBC America ?? abit early for U'tube, but deffinately worth a watch.....Steve

    according to the programme every person in Britton is £ 30,000 pounds in debt.........

    If nothing else our Chancelors , ministers and 'Banksters' have been totally incompetent over the past 30 years, if not they are stitching us up for a fall, war fear for their 'MASTERS'!!! 'Takes your pick'.!!!!!

    One of the experts said we all had a part in the exccess's of the last 30 years. Thats rubbish most people have kept within budget worked hard and done nothing to get us in this position.There are some that have been unemployed and borrowed on credit cards but the majority of the debt comes from government and 'Bankster' fraud and interrest created from nothing and paying back the interrest on that ......
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    Default Re: BBC...The Parties Over...How The West Went Bust..

    A sobering if unsurprising film which in retrospect was like an approaching express train..i.e you could not miss it coming,and yet the people who knew what was on the horizon[bankers/financiers] decided to say or do nothing.The chinese must be laughing into their egg fried rice at our stupidity. one point that i would ask is if the federal reserve is an independent bank with no connection to the u s government other than the word federal,then why was alan greenspan appointed to the post of the head of the federal reserve by the president?...have i got that right cidersomerset?
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    Default Re: BBC...The Parties Over...How The West Went Bust..

    Hi Ecnal I'm not a expert ,but the FED was set up 1913 by President Wilson, and consists of seven board members apointed by the President....This is a explanation of how in works written in 2002 and covers Alan Greenspan who was responcible for carrying out the elitists plan or was just incompetent, during the period spoken about in the programme...



    Alan Greenspan and the Federal Reserve System
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    What is the Fed?

    The Federal Reserve System, popularly known as "the Fed," is an unusual federal agency created in 1913 to give the government some control over banking, which at that time was mostly unregulated.

    There's a central Board of Governors in Washington, D.C. and 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks. There's also the Federal Open Market Committee, which gets all the attention as it changes a few key interest rates.

    The Board of Governors is made up of seven members, each appointed by the president, confirmed by the Senate and serving a 14-year term. The board is led by a chairman and a vice chairman, each appointed by the president for four-year terms.

    Most of the work of the Fed is done by the regional Federal Reserve Banks, which regulate and audit banks and similar institutions, hold reserves for national and state banks, operate as banks for the federal government, distribute currency to banks and similar institutions, clear checks for member banks and administer laws pertaining to consumer credit protection.

    The Fed's "member" banks include all national banks and state-chartered banks that choose to join the Federal Reserve System.

    Why is the Fed important?

    The real power of the Fed is its influence over monetary policy. The Federal Open Markets Committee meets eight times a year to make decisions on short-term interest rates, especially what's known as the federal funds rate. By law, the Fed is supposed to "promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices and moderate long-term interest rates."

    How does the Fed work?

    The Fed has three main tools to do this job. The most important is to set the federal funds rate, which is what banks pay each other for overnight loans. The committee sets a target for this rate, but not the actual rate itself. When the news media report that the Fed changed interest rates, it's the federal funds rate that is being referred to.

    The second tool is the discount rate, which is what banks pay to borrow money from a Federal Reserve Bank. This is usually lower than the federal funds rate, but the two are closely tied.

    The third tool is the reserve requirement. This is a percentage of deposits that all banks must hold in reserve and cannot loan out. This rate is usually around 10 percent, but it can change from time to time. This is a very powerful tool, but it is rarely used. So this power is mostly theoretical, held in reserve, so to speak.

    Why should anybody care except banks?

    The federal funds rate might not seem like a very big deal, but it is powerful. Banks borrow from and lend to each other routinely in order to make sure they meet their reserve requirements. When the Fed changes the federal funds rate, it makes those loans among banks more or less expensive. And over time that can impact just about every interest rate that banks charge their customers.

    If If the Federal Open Market Committee, sometimes known as the FOMC, is concerned about inflation and wants to cool down the economy, it does so by increasing the federal funds rate. This eventually makes it more expensive for businesses and consumers to borrow money and thus slows down economic activity. If instead the Fed wants to stimulate the economy, it does so by reducing the federal funds rate, making it easier for banks to lend money and for consumers and businesses to borrow.
    Changes in the federal funds rate have a ripple effect on other rates. Interest rates influence each other. Long-term rates tend to go up and down together, and short-term rates tend to go up and down together. So when banks suddenly have to pay less for very-short-term money, as in overnight loans, they generally pass the savings on to their customers in the form of lower short-term rates. Conversely, when the federal funds rate goes up, banks quickly pass the added cost on to their customers.

    This is why banks' prime rate, which is a benchmark for many loans, usually moves up or down quickly after changes in the federal funds rate. The changes gradually work their way into longer-term rates such as for car loans and fixed-rate mortgages and corporate bonds. Because of the time this takes, many economists believe federal funds rate changes don't work their way through the economy for about six months.

    What are "basis points?"

    When the Fed changes interest rates, the news is often reported by measuring the change in something called "basis points." This may sound confusing, but it's really very simple if you remember that one basis point is equal to one-hundredth of 1 percent. That means that 25 basis points is one quarter of a percent, 50 basis points is half a percent, etc.

    Who is Alan Greenspan?

    Alan Greenspan is chairman of the Federal Reserve Board and arguably one of the most powerful individuals in the United States. Greenspan has demonstrated a sharp intellect along with an unusual ability to keep his independence while still following the trends of political power in Washington, D.C.

    He was born in New York City in 1926, son of a stockbroker and a saleswoman. He showed early signs of mathematical genius, yet after high school chose to attend the Julliard School of music and later played clarinet and saxophone in a traveling swing band in the mid 1940s.

    He abandoned a music career to obtain bachelor's and master's degrees in economics from New York University and begin doctoral studies at Columbia University. He left Columbia when he ran out of money and took a job later as an economist for the National Industrial Conference Board. (He eventually got his Ph.D. from New York University in 1977.)

    In the 1950s, Greenspan became a dedicated follower of Ayn Rand, whose philosophy of "enlightened selfishness" appealed to Greenspan more than the free-market skepticism of John Maynard Keynes and many other economists of his generation. However, Greenspan took a more pragmatic and politically aware route than many of the uncompromising heroes of Rand's novels.

    Greenspan later started a consulting company that offered economic forecasts to large companies and financial institutions, at a time when few corporations had their own professional staff economists. In the 1960s, Greenspan was a director of policy research for Richard Nixon but did not come to Washington until the 1970s, when he became chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors under President Gerald Ford.

    In this job, during a decade that saw wage and price controls, a major oil crisis and the Watergate scandal that led to Nixon's resignation, Greenspan got his first taste of experience being grilled before angry senators and congressmen. Undoubtedly that was valuable training for parts of his present job.

    Greenspan returned to private life and resumed his economic consulting practice after the election of President Jimmy Carter, though he was chairman of the nonpartisan Social Security Commission in the early 1980s. In 1987, he was appointed chairman of the Federal Reserve Board by President Ronald Reagan and has served since then under both Republican and Democratic administrations.

    Several books have been written about Greenspan, including "Maestro: Greenspan's Fed and the American Boom" by Bob Woodward and "Greenspan: The Man Behind the Money" by Justin Martin.


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    FAR TO MUCH POWER FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL IMHO.......THERE ARE OVER 300,000 MILLION US CITIZENS....SHARE OUT THE RESPONCIBILITY ....STOP CORRUPTION...THAT GOES FOR EVERY COUNTRY......Steve
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    Default Re: BBC...The Parties Over...How The West Went Bust..

    Did anyone notice when Lehmen staff were leaving with their personal belongings, one of the boxes clearly had" Iron Mountain" printed on the side! Made me chuckle!

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    Yes 46 mins in just went back to look....




    http://www.ironmountain.co.uk/

    Storage and Data firm for the 'Banksters' quite appropriate...LOL..

    It does seem a odd name for a solutions business , unless its the final one.....

    Dun Dun Dun Da !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1...
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    Default Re: BBC...The Parties Over...How The West Went Bust..

    Quote Posted by Marianne (here)
    Couldn't get it in the U.S. ... thanks though, Steve. Maybe can find it somewhere else.
    Maybe use a British based proxy server ...

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