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    I agree with you, Dawn. Our home should ideally support us materially and spiritually. I agree also that most homes are not in line with any Vastu recommendations. At least with a home on wheels, you can easily move it around to get the best directional energies!
    There are many benefits to living simply, no doubt about it.

    And yes, I think you are right in saying that the current housing situation is forcing many to re-evaluate the way we live.
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    Thanks Dawn for bringing forth the energetics of “housing” as an important vector of our very essence, how we use housing as a shield, how housing manifests certain personality traits, and how housing really does affect us in very profound ways. Being “comfortable” in a home could just be an escape from the gnawing rumblings within which need to be addressed, and it is said “behind closed doors” any and all manner of insanity occurs. A man’s home is his castle, and the right to defend it against search and seizure, at the point of a gun, is ingrained into our very consciousness as paramount to freedom.

    In the US, the American Dream is to “own” your own home, the largest single investment most people will ever make. Those who still buy into this dream spend over half the energy of their entire lives fueling this idea of home ownership, when the context, perspectives, and notions are all fallacious and misleading. Many people are going to be faced with the harsh reality one day that the “housing” they have invested so much of their lives to acquire, maintain, and work for, did not bring them the happiness or the financial rewards they were induced into believing it would.

    I’ve really come full circle on this myself. In my early twenties, I left the big city, hitchhiked to a small town in the Northwest Olympic Peninsula of the US, and built a small cabin on the banks of a small stream, out of reclaimed lumber from the construction work I was doing for a living. It had a small sleeping loft in it, was heated by a small wood stove which I also cooked on. Lighting was kerosene lamps, bathing was done sitting in a horse watering trough with a fire built under it, which sat under the stars next to the small stream. Most food was short term fresh harvest, and the things which were longer term were stored in a homemade root cellar. It was very much a “back to the land” hippie lifestyle.

    Later on in life, I built a really nice home out of pocket. I bought the undeveloped land, moved a travel trailer onto it, began by building the garage, moved into that, and over the course of several years, built the house “out of pocket”. It was the type of home which fit very much into the “upscale” market with all the modern conveniences built into it. The only difference was, it had no mortgage.

    All of my life I have worked in residential construction, have built hundreds of all types of housing, and still currently remodel for the rich neighborhoods around the city I currently reside. I see daily the notions by which people make housing decisions, and the context within which those decisions are made. The things people throw away and the amounts of money they spend could house thousands of homeless. It’s quite staggering and also quite contrasting to the way I live and what I know about housing. I live in a small rented place which “has just what I need and nothing that I don’t”.

    I often think about that little cabin I lived in and the freedom it gave me to choose daily how I spent my time, and how it kept me close to nature and the elements. I only needed to work to fuel the ideas I had and to purchase the amenities I could not produce on site. The rest of my time and money were free to go anywhere and do anything I wanted. I think that is what I miss the most, being self sufficient and not too attached to the corporatocracy and its machinations of slavery, and the freedom it gave me.

    The context requires a shift in consciousness of operating from a place of abundance and not from a place of lack. This is so contrary to the human condition and the resource scarcity paradigm, and the attachment to money and asset allocation to fuel the idea that we are somehow protected from poverty and lack, when in fact, we are trapped in that paradigm by making housing so much of the paradigm designed for us. I think this idea and this paradigm is shifting as more people really wake up to the lie and how it keeps them trapped in slavery, attached to the corporatocracy and all of its manifestations. Please keep this thread going. This is an important topic.
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    Quote Here's the thing. One MUST come out of anger and the determination to remain ever the victim to be able to see the light shining

    sincerely misunderstood......this has very LITTLE to do with me....

    Its about humanity as a whole--ALL ENCOMPASSING ----It always is with me


    Our situation IS a travesty for all HUMAN KIND It sincerely depends on from what perspective one is expressing...


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    There is a company in Vancouver that makes them:

    Quote NOMAD's designer Ian Kent has certainly pushed the size limits of liveable homes. By incorporating an innovative staircase and varying ceiling heights as well as maximizing natural light, Ian was able to prevent this home from being claustrophobic. "I knew that effective design could make a space this size feel comfortable. My goal was to produce an efficient yet cozy home with minimal impact on yard space and the environment”. 35 years of design and home-building experience provided the answers. NOMAD’s living room, kitchen, bathroom, stair, bedroom, and storage are all seamlessly integrated: a stair doubles as a kitchen, a window adds light to one area and a higher ceiling to another, a bathroom doubles as a shower, storage that can be used as seating, and so on. These features are not obvious at first glance, but each one is essential to NOMAD's livability.
    http://www.nomadmicrohomes.com/



    http://globalnews.ca/news/932674/van...h-25000-units/

    Quote Imagine being able to own a brand-new home for $25,000.

    A Vancouver man hopes to revolutionize homeownership and small space living with his easy-to-assemble micro homes.

    Nomad Micro Homes and its President Ian Kent are raising funds on the crowd-funding website indiegogo to make affordable micro homes a reality.

    Kent says there are multiple uses for homes which are about 160 square feet in size.

    “There’s a wide range of uses, from people using them as additional accommodation, to recreational property — you could basically drive this home in and assemble it in a week.”

    The homes are easy to assemble and set-up.

    “At least one handyman with a helper could assemble it in less than a week, it’s kind of an IKEA type model,” says Kent.

    Three different models are proposed, starting at $25,000 for the base model, and $28,000 for the “Live” model that includes kitchen appliances and bathroom fixtures.
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    I see a lot of people becoming interested in some type of a "tiny" house.
    I see the concept also arising as a natural continuation or rather as a reaction to the over-sized houses being build last 20-30 years in the western countries where people could afford this type of luxurious life style.
    I noticed a similar trend, although much more ugly, in my country with the breaking free from the communism and moving towards capitalism. The 'All hell broke loose' so to speak situation.
    As someone closely related with the process, meaning as the architect behind the building, I find both trends- super-sized house and the tiny one coming from similar ends.
    Everything is a matter of choice and view on life of course, but while putting a lot of philosophy in both concepts we shouldn't forget that the house for the human life is like the body for the person, it should be properly sized and built so that it would allow all natural processes to flow smoothly. When considering your house think of it as a shelter together as a collector of light and energy. It shouldn't be tiny, it shouldn't be too large. It should allow enough sunlight to pass through the room, and natural air ventilation. We spend a lot of time in our homes, especially during rest.
    Consider also all the materials used in the construction, together with the spacial organization.

    I have been through different phases when I liked this or that, as concepts mostly, but the closest to my heart has always been the simplest organization with the most natural materials.
    When I say natural I mean wood, brick, earth, hemp, straw bale, and much less the artificial insulation or the metal elements.
    If I can rephrase a saying I would put it in this way- if you want to know which is the best house to live in look at the houses most architect have. And I mean most conscious architects because there will always be some who will want to show off their creative side with some excentric choices.

    Recently there can be found a lot of research and information about the effect of shapes/volumes on the earth energy and the comfort or the lack of there-of for the life who has to continue inside- plant or animal/human. A lot of proportions, special sizes, directional orientation and zones on the earth surface have to be considered when creating a space to live in. Of course there are temporary solutions, and escapes as an exception from the rule, but we shouldn't forget that nature has its fundamental laws, and if we want to live in harmony with the environment we should abide by its natural laws of creation.

    I know this thread is somewhat old, but I hope that can be still helpful to someone who is still considering living "tiny".
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    Quote Posted by chocolate (here)
    I see a lot of people becoming interested in some type of a "tiny" house.
    I see the concept also arising as a natural continuation or rather as a reaction to the over-sized houses being build last 20-30 years in the western countries where people could afford this type of luxurious life style.
    I noticed a similar trend, although much more ugly, in my country with the breaking free from the communism and moving towards capitalism. The 'All hell broke loose' so to speak situation.
    As someone closely related with the process, meaning as the architect behind the building, I find both trends- super-sized house and the tiny one coming from similar ends.
    Everything is a matter of choice and view on life of course, but while putting a lot of philosophy in both concepts we shouldn't forget that the house for the human life is like the body for the person, it should be properly sized and built so that it would allow all natural processes to flow smoothly. When considering your house think of it as a shelter together as a collector of light and energy. It shouldn't be tiny, it shouldn't be too large. It should allow enough sunlight to pass through the room, and natural air ventilation. We spend a lot of time in our homes, especially during rest.
    Consider also all the materials used in the construction, together with the spacial organization.

    I have been through different phases when I liked this or that, as concepts mostly, but the closest to my heart has always been the simplest organization with the most natural materials.
    When I say natural I mean wood, brick, earth, hemp, straw bale, and much less the artificial insulation or the metal elements.
    If I can rephrase a saying I would put it in this way- if you want to know which is the best house to live in look at the houses most architect have. And I mean most conscious architects because there will always be some who will want to show off their creative side with some excentric choices.

    Recently there can be found a lot of research and information about the effect of shapes/volumes on the earth energy and the comfort or the lack of there-of for the life who has to continue inside- plant or animal/human. A lot of proportions, special sizes, directional orientation and zones on the earth surface have to be considered when creating a space to live in. Of course there are temporary solutions, and escapes as an exception from the rule, but we shouldn't forget that nature has its fundamental laws, and if we want to live in harmony with the environment we should abide by its natural laws of creation.

    I know this thread is somewhat old, but I hope that can be still helpful to someone who is still considering living "tiny".
    Perhaps the most significant reason to build small is one of economics, both the cost of construction and the cost of energy and maintenance.

    Earth sheltered (for economy of heating and cooling) and generously sized south facing glass (in the northern hemisphere) are very smart ideas.

    Debt, a mortgage in particular, is the great slave maker, by design.

    My choice for a small house.
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    Hi, Ron Mauer Sr!
    I am one who really understands the economics, living in a country that is struggling to survive. I am surrounded by people either living in what you would call post-socialist concrete prefab blocks, or in old houses in need of a major repair. And this is exactly the situation where one needs to have a sober opinion on how to approach the problem.
    Here a bank loan for me is not a good option either. I am witnessing a lot of that damaging people's lives here too.

    I would joke at this point that size does matter when building a house together with everything else.

    It will become a rather long and tiresome explanation of all the nitty-gritty of the situation.

    I am not trying to say you should necessarily go big, or pay a lot of money to an architect to design your home and to a builder to build it.
    I am saying that yes, one can live in a room with a bathroom, but if I am going to do that I would probably rent some place and live there until I can afford to pay for a sufficiently sized house. That is one investment that needs to be looked at carefully. The sense of security and independence a tiny house seems to attract with, is in my view, a bit false. We are all dependent, all the time, no matter if we want to or if we believe we are, that is part of the way this life has been set up to operate. This strive for independence is what creates problems most of the time.

    Okay, so we live in a village or in an area, the community of the future if you will, that is entirely independent and self-sufficient. Nothing wrong with that. But is life simply a matter of having food, a shelter and low-cost energy?

    I am not sure I know the correct answer to that.
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    Here is one unusual idea which I am not saying we all have to like or have, but it only shows that the potential is limitless in certain frame of mind: http://naturalhomes.org/hemloft.htm

    And one more traditional looking:
    http://naturalhomes.org/maya.htm
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    saw this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24574082 and thought of this thread
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    I love this so much! Thank you for posting it...

    Quote Posted by chocolate (here)
    Here is one unusual idea which I am not saying we all have to like or have, but it only shows that the potential is limitless in certain frame of mind: http://naturalhomes.org/hemloft.htm

    And one more traditional looking:
    http://naturalhomes.org/maya.htm

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    Thank you, silverfish. That was awesome!

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    saw this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24574082 and thought of this thread
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    Quoted from Arrowwind
    I understand that small houses are the alternative to the money crip but if you can't creatively function whats the use? if you cant sustain yourself from your house whats the use? If the house is cold whats the use? If it cant hold children? if it cant hold your aging Mom?
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    You are fearlessly honest. Living little can not work for everyone. My home is about 1,300 feet. Small by today's standards. Most available space is used by my stash of yarn, beads, paper, fabric and books. And I still trip over the dogs.

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    Quote Posted by Christine Lori (here)
    Quote Posted by Arrowwind
    I understand that small houses are the alternative to the money crip but if you can't creatively function whats the use? if you cant sustain yourself from your house whats the use? If the house is cold whats the use? If it cant hold children? if it cant hold your aging Mom?
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    You are fearlessly honest. Living little can not work for everyone. My home is about 1,300 feet. Small by today's standards. Most available space is used by my stash of yarn, beads, paper, fabric and books. And I still trip over the dogs.
    I went through this same thought process, I really looked heavily into a small space, but these just don't work for families.. I live with my wife, 4 children and I moved my mom down with me, 3 large dogs, 2 cats, a goat, 8 horses... my house seems small at times and it's 4 bed 4 bath.

    I think the small house movement makes a lot of sense for a good portion of the population, but it's sort of limited to couples or singles; my house also functions as my business, school for my children, and extended family living; so I guess I'm using the space efficiently enough to sort of conform to the tiny house mentality; perhaps that should be the real take away here.. the philosophy of tiny houses, not necessarily the tiny house itself.
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    Zen Forest House in Oregon...

    Oh my! This is so AWESOME! I watched this video a couple of days ago and cannot stop thinking about it. Yummy!!


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    carriellbee that is an awesome home design! Yeah just imagine tht type of creative design everywhere...I could!!

    I love the way he stresses the beauty and ease of simplistic designs from nature that look 10 times better then manufactured crap...id love to live in one of those houses <3
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    How about we pay nothing for a SPACIOUS HOME! Isnt this nice...society is making available SHOE BOXES for those who just cant SLAVE enough for an OVERPRICED house. Sick...nope not good enough....Earth is ALL OF OURS and so is its shelter!


    I just want to update that, I FEEL THE SAME IF NOT WORSE!


    HOUSING IS A F'N TRAVASTY ---- ALL OVER
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    Thing is?

    I'm actually keen on the idea of a tiny house because it just makes sense for me. I'm one person. I'm never going to have kids. To me, the house is important, but its all about yard...and growing things...and being a part of the place, rather than the place being part of what I own. It's the Frank Lloyd Wright in me.

    Housing is way overpriced, that is for damn sure. But one way I can say buhbye to the problem is just dropping the system.

    Then I get the problem..wife...kids....tiny house...and I think...ugh....but I think ugh because I'm not a social person like that. However!



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    I love creativity of all kinds, but I absolutely adore this creativity in harmony with and with such respect for nature. I would love to build one and live in it. I just know that it would feel so right to live like this.

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    carriellbee that is an awesome home design! Yeah just imagine tht type of creative design everywhere...I could!!

    I love the way he stresses the beauty and ease of simplistic designs from nature that look 10 times better then manufactured crap...id love to live in one of those houses <3

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