Alternative Power, the trouble with finding information.

[Kristin]

My partner is a Mechanical Engineer. He and I have been beating our heads up against the wall trying to find technical schematics on the web for alternative power generators. We are interested in building a source of clean renewable energy that has little to no impact on the environment.

We were very interested in "Earth Battery" technology and "Permanent Magnet Generators". However, the patents have been taken off line and are impossible to track as all information as to the numbers is erased and off record. The technical information is impossible to find. We've read a great deal on the subject and have found only partial ideas and concepts that do not give any real hands on information as to construction.

We are well aware of the alternatives... solar, wind and hydro electric. We're just two creative people who are looking to develop something new and interesting to cleanly power our home.

IF anyone has any information that they are willing to share we'd love to chat.
Thank you,
From the Heart,
Wormhole

ps. We've read the practical guide by kelly.

[Siberia9]

I would search the forum for free energy etc, there are some of those guys here, but of course they have all been shut down by the govt scum bags. Perhaps if you look into those threads and then PM those guys with questions you may find what you seek.

[Kristin]

Yeah, we are checking into that. We've come to the conclusion that we need to contact people directly and travel to see what they are up to. I thought I would post here in case one or two may be reading posts still... also, you never know. Once in a while the needle in the haystack shows up just by asking. Thanks again,
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[evancruz1]

Posted by Wormhole (here)
My partner is a Mechanical Engineer. He and I have been beating our heads up against the wall trying to find technical schematics on the web for alternative power generators. We are interested in building a source of clean renewable energy that has little to no impact on the environment.

We were very interested in "Earth Battery" technology and "Permanent Magnet Generators". However, the patents have been taken off line and are impossible to track as all information as to the numbers is erased and off record. The technical information is impossible to find. We've read a great deal on the subject and have found only partial ideas and concepts that do not give any real hands on information as to construction.

We are well aware of the alternatives... solar, wind and hydro electric. We're just two creative people who are looking to develop something new and interesting to cleanly power our home.

IF anyone has any information that they are willing to share we'd love to chat.
Thank you,
From the Heart,
Wormhole

ps. We've read the practical guide by kelly.

Try www.johnbedini.net There you will find a genius with the means to help.

[Kristin]

Yes, we've looked into this and there is resonance and electrolyzer (running from H20) applications found there, very informative. Apparently, he's made some excellent modifications and built a great deal himself. Agreed, genius. We've actually discussed directly contacting him... this is a good reinforcement for that. Thank you.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[evancruz1]

Posted by Wormhole (here)
Yes, we've looked into this and there is resonance and electrolizer (running from H20) applications found there, very informative. Apparently, he's made some excellent modifications and built a great deal himself. Agreed, genius. We've actually discussed directly contacting him... this is a good reinforcement for that. Thank you.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

You are very welcome, I hope to see you accomplish your goal.

[Kristin]

Honestly, if we do we will vid every LOL moment and post it here on Avalon! That would be something!
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Oouthere]

I bought Bedini's booklet for a free energy generator probably a decade ago, but after looking at his power measurements they were impossible. The best I remember was him stating that the more you loaded the generator the less drive power it used, the problem was he measured across a straight short for maximum output....you can't measure a direct short the way he was stating. The voltage was in the 30's the best I can remember but the device's wiring was small, something like 22 gauge....absolutely no way it was correct unless he was measure reactive power (he was) across a cap. I built a roto-verter and it worked the same way with a tuned cap bank. Mine showed about 1,200 watts input and 3,600 watts out....but it was not usable power....only generated power similar to what is stored in an unloaded transformer. The sine wave was perfect, two different amp meters indicating the same power output but it would not drive a load without a similar increase in power.

Others replicated the roto-verter and out right lied about the results, there is not one out there that can run itself. Also Bearden's patented MEG does not work as stated. A free energy researcher I know drove to Bearden's house and saw the MEG. Bearden admitted they did not know why it would work sometimes but most the time it did not. IMO it was picking up on the local high transmission power lines....could be wrong though.

The one I have not been able to disprove is a patent by Robert Alexander. He made his discovery by mistake while trying to develop a way to run a/c power tools in the field using batteries. The patent is incorrect (patent stated 45 volts on the exciter windings and 48v drive power/should have been 4.5v for exciter windings and 48v drive power) as I smoked a generator trying to replicate it, these generators are hard to find since they've not been produced since the early 1970's. It was based on the Onan 205LK generator as my best guess. The generator had a unique design in which the generator head also function as the starter motor for the genset. The wiring was also unique (if I'm remember correctly) as there was two fields in the exciter coils and they were tied to a common with the a/c output. So you had the dc and a/c running on a common ground which seemed to pulse the exciter coils when then the a/c amps built, thus inducing a positive vectoring of the rotor.

The patent (3,913,004) is incorrect on how the generator operates, though he does state he does not fully understand why it works. There is another patent (4,885,526) that figured out why the generator produced about 1:3 overunity. I built 4 previous versions of the Alexander generator but they did not work as I was using his premise in the building. I'm currently working on the next version but using the later patent's theory.

Rich

[Kristin]

Rich,
If you would PM me with your email it would be most appreciated. You've taken a road that we are about to travel on. We'd really love to have a conversation with you sometime in the future. Thank you for the notation on the patents. Right now we are starting to focus on the water generator, Stan Miers, Peter Lindmann, etc. We are trying to ascertain which path we should take. I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Kristin]

Here's a nice vid...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSe943wkUfg
Enjoy,
Wormhole

[wavydome]

It would be lovely to try something readily build-able. However, for example, Kelly's book examples almost seem more difficult and speculative than say harnessing that culvert nearby. Have you seen any replications of the Kelly book examples, functioning well or producing power continuously and economically?

Your vid example seems to keep an AC grid connection behind the generating unit. The AC connection behind is not disconnected during the vid, so it seemed. Vids seem to inspire an equal amount of nay and yay sayers, because of uncertainties along with the the hopes.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Wormhole,

You will not be able to find the working plans for a Free Energy device floating on the internet. There are plenty of hints yes, but working plans, no. You are sure welcome to try and look, I am just saying this to save you some time.

I believe you will be more lucky if you went out to meet with some inventors in private, without publishing anything on the net, but even that is a very long shot.

Most likely you would be better of to use water power (if you are near a river) or wind power (if it's windy where you live).

Myself I plan to use a bike to charge some batteries if the need should arise. I know, not the most efficient way to do it...

Ah... and because your partner is a mechanical engineer you should have a very serious look at: http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/OscilacijeEng.html (it may still require some "manual" input, but is a great "energy amplifier")

[Oouthere]

Hiya Wormhole,

This link will take you to the earth battery patents.... www.rexresearch.com is a treasure chest of information.

http://www.rexresearch.com/erthbatry/erthbatry.htm

One of the most compelling water heaters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06iCfowinUM

The last I heard is this is an Amish water heater and they want $15 million for the technology....such a giving people.

Rich

[Kristin]

Interesting free energy video, "It Runs on Water".
Enjoy,
Wormhole

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi..._vjV0.facebook