Why is privacy important?

[Ilie Pandia]

Let my start by saying that this is a very serious question and I plan to collect the answers.

I did not see this discussed on Avalon (there are few threads about privacy problems but not why is it important).

I hope this thread will grow into an informative discussion that will raise awareness about privacy issues, why is it important and what can we do about it.

So why is privacy important? Why not share everything about yourself publicly?

[norman]

Because it's the basis of individual sovereignty, as opposed to the hive life.

[RMorgan]

Good thread Ilie.

For me privacy is important, because I have the right to choose which parts of my life I want to share, and with which people I want to share such information.

Of course, with the internet, you have to be smart about where you hold your info. If you have something you´d like to keep in secret, keep it away from gadgets connected to the internet.

Cheers,

Raf.

[DouglasDanger]

Yes, it is important to have your own space, place, to be alone with your thoughts. You cannot discover/realize/come to grips/ explore yourself with out privacy because your constantly bombarded with "others opinions". Alot of people freely express how they think you are suposed to live your life privacy gives you the opportunity to decide for yourself by yourself with yourself..

[Amenjo]

Privacy is important because you are your own sovereign, and what you decide to share of yourself, is your gift to others.
If you decide not to share something of yourself, you shouldn't be judged for it. That is your choice. No one knows yourself better than you do.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

[Limor Wolf]

Hello Ilie,and thanks for rasing this question.Being a privet person myself I do not possess an answer to your question,why it is actually important to keep some things privet?
I do know it is not about hiding anything,I think that it might do with leaving a space for myself in this very unreasonable world,or simply avoiding over exposure and listening to advices that I did not ask for.
If we are talking about privecy in general,than we know full well that our privet details known to some factors can be used against us.
In good hands,with good minds and hearts,I would not care much about giving up my privecy,but something in me tells me that to keep myself an island of peace and quiet is not such a bad thing nowdays,in our region of the worlds :-)
However,we have no real privecy anyway,when our mind and our behaviour can be searched and be very much open for those who does not inhabit this earth,or this dimension.

I am curious,how would you answer your own question,and what are other members thoughts about it.
"Why is privecy important?"

Why indeed..?

[Anchor]

In a metaphysical sense the idea of privacy is really funny.

I mean at some point when we find our-self telepathic and members of the ultimate community, a "group soul", the idea of privacy could be seen as a disease.

However, we currently live in a heavy density, where the machinations of controlling people have constructed features within our society which mean that one has to play a careful game in order to achieve ones objectives without social problems like: loosing ones job, being outcast etc.

For some, and I include myself in that, it is important to keep some things private.

That said, my need for privacy is not motivated by shame or fear.

On another level: I would be happy to walk naked in the streets, if it were not for that fact that others certainly would not be - for all sorts of reasons

[Strat]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Let my start by saying that this is a very serious question and I plan to collect the answers.

I did not see this discussed on Avalon (there are few threads about privacy problems but not why is it important).

I hope this thread will grow into an informative discussion that will raise awareness about privacy issues, why is it important and what can we do about it.

So why is privacy important? Why not share everything about yourself publicly?

I've haven't really considered this before, so my answer is off the top of my head.

Privacy in what regards?

Do you mean my name, profile pic, home address? I'll freely post a pic of me, I just find internet avatars to be a fun novelty. When it comes to my name, I am a bit protective but not paranoid. The fact of the matter is my screen name will be exposed to lots of people who I don't know. I love Avalon, but all internet forums occasionally get a nutjob/troll. I don't want some jerk looking me up and causing me trouble. I'm good at dealing with lunatics, but why risk the hassle?

Obviously, same goes with giving out my address. I don't mind if you know my general location (Jacksonville, FL) but I won't tell you my street address.

If one were to say that I'm being overly cautious, I'd say why do you want these things from me?

[spiritguide]

Each one of us has our own reason or desire for privacy. My realization is that everything about my personage is open and free for the taking. I have no fears about my life or how others would use that information. The flames of any fire directed at me will be quenched by my soul existance.

[ThePythonicCow]

I'm more concerned with whether one or a few institutions know too much about too many of us, collectively.

Individually, I'm not that concerned with privacy violations, and I am able to maintain easily enough what privacy I seek. My information managing talents are strong, and I'm not a "high value target" for The Bastards in Power (TBiP.)

But we as a vast majority of humans are more easily controlled by a few because the few have a massive information advantage over us collectively. We know little of who they are, what they do, or what they intend. They have massive amounts of data on us, in many ways. Occasionally that data is used to target one of us who gets too high a profile in their view. But more importantly, in my view, that data is used to control the population of humans on this planet.

Information is power; an information imbalance is a power imbalance; far too much power and information lies in the hands of a few; far too much of our past, our future, our knowledge, our awareness is kept from the rest of us.

A key purpose of this forum, and a key benefit of this forum to myself, is the sharing of some of that hidden knowledge, which is one key way we can redress the information imbalance.

[Tony]

Privacy in a forum is not really possible, but it is important to respect others territory.
Sometimes when having a conversation with another, what is said just applies to that particular person only.
On a thread this cannot be controlled, and if a third person is not in tune with the thread, they can gets the wrong end of the stick, and that leads to problems.

If we are taking about privacy in life, then if one does not conform, then it is very important. Again people get the wrong end of the stick!

In practice, most people are not interested in others private lives...only their own. So in practice nobody really cares!

Tony

[Davidallany]

Hi Illie,
In my personal experience, revealing personal information in all of its forms, depends either on trust, or on necessity need to know.

[Limor Wolf]

Interesting to see how each of our responses here is giving a different angle on privecy according to our different perceptions of it..

What was the poet's intention? we will need to hear it from Ilie ,when he will wake up from his hopefully good night sleep.

[Kristin]

My answer to this question is none of your business.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[norman]

Posted by Paul (here)
I'm more concerned with whether one or a few institutions know too much about too many of us, collectively.

A very hot point Paul, and probably deserves a thread of it's own.

You've put your finger on the whole dynamic of the privacy issue with this. We are many and they are few. Our privacy is worth so much more to them than their privacy is worth to us ( as long as it is them with the technological advantage ). It's a complete reversal of the situation on the ground face to face. That's why they want to keep it like this as long as possible.

However, even though there are 'groups' who claim to be cyber warriors sticking up for us ( HAHAAA ) and as far as i can tell, so far, none of them are any such thing, there IS a twist to the technological voyeuristic balance that's not as it seems on the surface.

Check out what David Wilcock says about quantum interfacing with computers. That's one angle that's active. Another line of progress is good old hackmanship that's still going very strong.

It's one thing to know that tbtb are snooping, It's another thing altogether to know, by their own fingerprints, what they are most interested in. That tells us a hell of a lot about what they are up to. That's snooping back at them! Not for the feint hearted but it's doable.


Voyerism, is the flip side of this privacy thing, yea?

Perhaps it's a perversion to be voyeristic. Some of us are keen Voyers. I'll bet most Avalon members are so. How many here didn't come because they were interested in the other people's secrets. not many, I'd guess. A secret is a secret, whether you are a good guy or a bad guy. Guessing what someone's secrets are is only guessing. Knowing what someone's secrets are is, effectively, voyerism.

That sound's like a good case for not having secrets at all, but I absolutely insist that secrets are held by all sovereign individuals as a place holder, at least. We don't have to fill that place holder with anything in particular but it's a basis for privacy, and that's vital, in my opinion.

Others want to take that privacy away from us all the time because they can't stand secrets. Why can't they stand secrets? It's a condition that comes with being in this cogitively decapitated society that knows it's being decieved all the time. This state of affairs feeds the ripping away of all our privacy in a rediculously inverted logic that may or may not be a deliberate plan by the bad guys.

I want privacy to defend myself until the world convinces me I don't need to any longer. Until the world is sorted out, we are in a sort of military scenario that logic tells us not to give up out secrets. That's our privacy.

Anchor had a little chuckle earier about it. I quite GET what he means but we're not there yet.

[alienHunter]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Let my start by saying that this is a very serious question and I plan to collect the answers.

I did not see this discussed on Avalon (there are few threads about privacy problems but not why is it important).

I hope this thread will grow into an informative discussion that will raise awareness about privacy issues, why is it important and what can we do about it.

So why is privacy important? Why not share everything about yourself publicly?

the best reason to be concerned about privacy was the proffer of a left wing blogger on another site who/m was obsessed with the evil Barack Obama.

I suggested that Obama was a good guy and we had nothing to worry about. He suggested that he didn't agree but even if true, what about the next President who might not be so benelovent in his/her goals. In terms of my personal sovereignty (I've never felt that I had it) I could care less what the government does, but I do worry about those individuals that are in much more dire need of privacy protection than i.

[G.A]

Priority for me is protecting my family and those close/connected to me. If I was a hermit, I'd have no interest in privacy. But the world we live in is what it is, and I feel its my obligation to keep my loved ones out of harms way.

[Sidney]

Its important because in our world, anybody anywhere can hold anything you say against you. ESPECIALLY when the topic of dsicussion are as controversial as the ones here.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Those who would control us, the control freaks, find value in cataloging our every activity, profiling us all to determine who is an obstacle to their agenda.

If it were not for that, privacy would be of little importance to me. At sometime, hopefully in the near future, there will be no secrets.

[cheez_2806]

it is important to me in the way where I don't want people too know all about me, it makes me feel unsafe and uncomfortable.
I fear - after they know all about me, they won't see the me the same again, I fear because the very same thing about yourself can be used against you one day...I onced believed everyone needs privacy and everyone has privacy
but now, I still wonder whether there is such thing as privacy really...