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    Who says it is wrong?

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    Quote Posted by tone3jaguar (here)
    Dogma is Dogma regardless of the efficacy of the original source of it. All that matters is right now, not 2000 years ago.
    The original teachings of Jesus are not Dogma, and are more relevant today then ever before. We do not live in peace on this planet, love our neighbour or know God.

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    Quote Posted by celine
    Who says it is wrong?
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    can I prove it to you - no

    so does that make it not wrong - no


    whether or not Jesus was a historical figure is either right or wrong


    pick and choose - but if you choose wrong it doesn't make it right

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    Truisms often are mistaken as fact

    Jesus does not want anyone to choose..

    He just wants you to know who you truly are.

    you are LOVE

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    you say that millions of ET are around the earth and that Jesus is a symbol

    I say you got it both wrong
    Whatever, prove that the past is more relevant than right now and I will consider focusing on it.

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    Past repeats itself...lessons to be learned for the futur sometimes lay in the past

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)


    I

    can I prove it to you - no

    so does that make it not wrong - no


    whether or not Jesus was a historical figure is either right or wrong


    pick and choose - but if you choose wrong it doesn't make it right
    Ah, you're a Christian. That certainly puts your posts, on this and other threads, into perspective...

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    Quote Posted by Sarahmay (here)
    Ah, you're a Christian. That certainly puts your posts, on this and other threads, into perspective...
    yes I confess to Christ - if that makes me a Christian so be it

    do I agree with whatever the Church preach and propose - no not at all

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    Quote Posted by celine (here)
    Truisms often are mistaken as fact

    Jesus does not want anyone to choose..

    He just wants you to know who you truly are.

    you are LOVE
    I totally agree, if you put the word Love for the name Jesus it all works out well. We also all have our personal crosses to bare, our own sufferings
    love blue

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    Quote Posted by tone3jaguar
    Whatever, prove that the past is more relevant than right now and I will consider focusing on it.
    present is a result of the past

    so history sheds a light on why and where we are at the present moment


    " He who cannot draw on 3000 years is living hand-to-mouth " - Goethe


    one cannot understand oneself nor the world by ignoring the past

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    Quote Posted by celine
    Truisms often are mistaken as fact

    Jesus does not want anyone to choose..

    He just wants you to know who you truly are.

    you are LOVE

    you are not only love but light truth and righteousness

    you can't have one without the others

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)



    you are not only love but light truth and righteousness

    you can't have one without the others
    My two best friends --- Love prevails then right action just happens. Why worry?
    God has no human qualities, attributes and just radiates pure unconditional love just as the sun shines equally on all.
    The difficulty with forum communication is we forget that as much as 80% of communication is non-verbal.
    I think you are both correct in the essence of what you say only minor difference of expression.
    love and respect to the two of you and between the pair of you ---- or else I come and knock your heads together --- Laughing uproariously.
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    My two best friends --- Love prevails then right action just happens.

    I think you are both correct in the essence of what you say only minor difference of expression.
    love and respect to the two of you and between the pair of you ---- or else I come and knock your heads together --- Laughing uproariously.
    Chris
    hehe that's pretty funny Chris

    knocking our heads together

    that sure would put an end to any discussions hehe


    psssst Im just upping my post count lol
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    Simply put - the story of the cross is "out of death emerges life" - for in Adam (lower nature) all die, but in Christ (spiritual consciousness) all shall be made alive. The death of Jesus is the death of the lower human nature, the resurrection of Christ is the raising of the Spiritual nature we have in Infinite Consciousness.
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    Unfortunately there are a lot of things that the Church has hidden about Jesus.

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    I was reading Jordan Maxwell's website yesterday. He says that with crucifixion death usually occurred about the 4th day. No one was allowed to be on the crosses on a Saturday as it was a holy day. Jesus was crucified on a Friday and so was brought down at sunset that night.

    He says that Jesus then went to India and Mary went to a convent somewhere. And that the holy grail isn't a cup that held the blood of Jesus, but a person - it's in reference to a bloodline.

    Can't remember where I heard this bit, but apparently Lady Di was of Jesus' bloodline (this may have been from William Coopers talks) - this is really only crazy unbelievable if you happen to believe the church version of Jesus, rather than the historical version.
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    This is an intersting thread I posted today addressed to Bill Ryan regarding the history/dealth of Jesus. My earlier post on this thread suggested that Bill might want to read a very good book written by Dr. Barbara Thiering one of the most pre- eminent scollars of the dead sea scrolls. Her book was published under the tile of "jesus & the riddle of the dead see scrolls", released in 1992 through Doubleday Canada Limited, 105 Bond Street, Toronto, Ontario M5B 1Y3. According to the translations of the scrolls, Jesus did marry Mary Magdeline. They had a daughter and two sons. Jesus was crucified on the cross in the Essene community of Qumran which was considered the new jerusalem. Jesus was a member of this community. Although crucified according to the texts, he did not die; was removed from the cross/purged of the poison given him to hasten his death and recoverded. He continued to teach his message and was last recorded as being in Greece at the age of 70 years old. This book was made into a documentary movie by Dr.Thiering and released in Australia in 1992. Needless to say, it was considered very provacative. The Truth often is!! For those who are in search of the truth of who Jesus really was, this book is well worth reading, It is a scholarly work, well researched. It depicts the time of Jesus in great detail.

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    I have read several of Dr. Thiering's books and yes they are provocative to those whose system of believe is traditional.

    But even when considering what Jesus did or did not do or had done to him or did not have done to him, there is and was an aspect of Jesus the Christ that people have a tendency to overlook. He is and was a highly advanced being of light. He came to Earth 2000 years ago to perform a mission. The people of that time period had no understanding of who he is/was and therefore did not have a method of comprehending his message. They also would never have the ability to comprehend then, what some people believe to be the truth about Jesus in current times.

    Based upon controversial channellings of Sananda/Jesus, it has been stated that Jesus then, as now, possessed supernatural abilities such as bilocation...which we know today to be a real ability. However, we also know of people today to have bilocated to the fourth location and beyond. In other words, one person can be in 4, 5, or 6 locations at the same time. It has been said that Jesus had this ability 2000 years ago. It is also said that he could regulate his energy in each body simultaneously and had the ability to remove his physical body by disappearing it by thought alone.
    This is the reason that Ashianna Deane (sp?) states that there were three Jesuses. There may have been more...of the same person...Christ Jesus.
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    Quote Posted by lightseeker (here)
    This is an intersting thread I posted today addressed to Bill Ryan regarding the history/dealth of Jesus. My earlier post on this thread suggested that Bill might want to read a very good book written by Dr. Barbara Thiering one of the most pre- eminent scollars of the dead sea scrolls. Her book was published under the tile of "jesus & the riddle of the dead see scrolls", released in 1992 through Doubleday Canada Limited, 105 Bond Street, Toronto, Ontario M5B 1Y3. According to the translations of the scrolls, Jesus did marry Mary Magdeline. They had a daughter and two sons. Jesus was crucified on the cross in the Essene community of Qumran which was considered the new jerusalem. Jesus was a member of this community. Although crucified according to the texts, he did not die; was removed from the cross/purged of the poison given him to hasten his death and recoverded. He continued to teach his message and was last recorded as being in Greece at the age of 70 years old. This book was made into a documentary movie by Dr.Thiering and released in Australia in 1992. Needless to say, it was considered very provacative. The Truth often is!! For those who are in search of the truth of who Jesus really was, this book is well worth reading, It is a scholarly work, well researched. It depicts the time of Jesus in great detail.
    what if jesus was really a hallucinogenic mushroom?

    http://www.gnosticmedia.com/the-phar...c-inquisition/

    I loved this documentary!!!! I'm not saying its "the" answer, but anythign that shifts your perspective and lets you view a situatoin from a different angle is highly worthy

    I really enjoyed this & so have a few other people (so i know I'm not just crazy).


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    I agree 100 %! Thanks for the post!
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