An examination of the Anunnaki and the planet Nibiru

[Ria]

I do not have a problem with Ishtar take on all this. What I would like to know is, what has her guides given Ishtar regarding her studies.?

[Ria]

My understanding, the Watchers are very tall....... giant like, not like the diminutive gray

[Aetheric Traveler]

Well, I don't have any gold, but the bones I DO have would probably make terrible pendents.

For Ishtar, DNA and Ria, I wish to say thank you very much for your time and contributions. This has been and still is a very interesting, thought provoking post.

It's not about agreeing or accepting or right or wrong, it's all about sharing, growing, and evolving our spirits. The only thing that makes us all identical is to say that we are all completely different.

The universe is a Paradox. We can all choose a side of the paradox to inhabit, while few of us can ride the middle line that separates the 2 different sides of the paradox. Me, I'm not one of them, yet. That's a skill I haven't mastered sorta like Zen calmness that says even though the entire world around me is dancing and heaving up and down with chaos, I maintain a serene bubble of "All is Well" calmness that insulates me from the chaos. I'm not there, yet.

I'm glad to see this post, with all its conjecture, difficulty of conceptual presentation and potential for argument, has remained civil and fairly kind.

In closing, I would only like to say to Ishtar that the entire purpose of your post would certainly be defeated if you were to receive a Private Message with the confirmation of data you seek instead of an open forum post so that all of us could share it.

Blessings, Love and Light to all,
AT

[Ria]

According to Ishtar there is no planet called nibiru in the sumerian writing and having checked the links it would confirm that it is only referred to as a town / city.
But there is evidence of what look like planetary bodies?
Blue Kashina........has been sure-jested to be a large sirian space craft
A second sun
As well as a second moon.
plus a large mass of space blanked out by NASA. and much of this is being seen by regular telescopes and the naked eye.

[Ria]

Aetheric Traveler you are right in keeping all-further developments here

[Aetheric Traveler]

Ria,

I have seen the blacked out area of space on GoogleSky. Just the fact this area is censored tells us all that somebody doesn't want us to see something.

From the readings I've found, Nebiru is also a planetoid body and the telltale, no question sign is that it appears to have wings. The explanations I've read is the "wings" are gaseous exterior "inclusives" that appear as winglike projections as the planetoid moves towards us. When the planetoid appears in the sky visible to the naked eye, the average telescope equipped skywatcher will be able to see the wings. When the wings are visible to the naked eye, the perigee of Nebiru's orbit is supposed to be close and the effects of its passing near Earth are going to be felt by the occupants of this planet.

It's my opinion that the PTB are doing their damnest to suppress, cover up, sterilize, remove and thwart any information about Nebiru because it's going to upset the "order of Money movement" on this planet. All currency systems would be negatively impacted by a changes in the population's attitude towards living on this planet. The money systems are so precariously balanced right now, that they can't afford to be nudged over the edge.

There are those that say Nebiru is a group of bodies, meaning a large body with surrounding smaller bodies caught in its gravitational field.

This is what makes the most sense to me, especially in light of the asteroid belt. There are examples of ancient art as well as the ancient Sumerian tablets that show more than the number of planets we have in the solar system today. What is now the asteroid belt, could have been one of those planets. The orbital body inclusions of Nebiru may contain masses large enough to smash a planet into rubble and this may already have happened aka Marduk, the planet. Sitchin can't be totally wrong about everything. The fact there are large efforts to discredit everything about what he said or interpreted is a pretty good indicator that someone doesn't like what was being divulged by him. Sitchin has been dead only a short time and the villification of his work did not wait for his passing.

I wish I had the time to track the blacked out GoogleSky image over a time period of let's says 12-18 months to see just how fast and far it's traveled.

I'm sure there are people who get very well paid to do just that.

Cheers,
AT

[Aetheric Traveler]

There have been allusions to the Greys being the Watchers. I don't find any evidence to support that contention. I would suspect anyone pushing for it very hard to be a dis-information pusher.

[Ria]

With regard to Sitchin the jury is out as far as I am concerned, interestingly already one asteroid apparently has been deflected. Kerry has some info on this. You could be right regarding keeping it hidden, another possibility if there has been intergalactic fighting, there trying to hide that.

[Andreash94]

i just bought 2 of sichin books and started to read ...should i keep reading?.....and what u say about BobDean (he was a freind of Sitchin )o.o

[Ria]

Well keep an open mind, Ishtar dose not agree with him, and Sumer is one of her subjects being an academic in this field four decades plus.

[Ria]

Sitchen has apparently been seen at the infamous rituals with TPTB allegedly. There will be further readings in the archives here also post question here for Ishtar to respond to. she will help you with links and others hear.

[Ria]

I only know about the Giant Size Watchers, by two completely different mediums who could see them. obviously at slightly higher frequency, I am pleased I did not see them, it would scare the **** out of me.

[DNA]

Posted by Aetheric Traveler (here)
There have been allusions to the Greys being the Watchers. I don't find any evidence to support that contention. I would suspect anyone pushing for it very hard to be a dis-information pusher.

I put much more stock in what people are reporting first hand today than I do in ancient tablets written in dead languages dependent strongly on the translaters and linguists to make the right call.
How do you determine what is pushing very hard? Better to just say you disagree with it and leave the window open rather than get into name calling.
Folks like Jim Sparks give an amazingly detailed story in regards to their abduction.
No claims are made regarding a connection to the Annunaki, but stating they(the greys) have been here for thousands of years and have been involved in genetic projects with humans makes one wonder if the connection is there.
So much name calling.
Can't we just have a civil conversation without the name calling.
Let us agree to disagree on various points. Here is a speaking engagement from Jim Sparks giving a testimonial relating to his experiences.
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Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq_MZez4piw

[Heather2017]

Nibiru is a planet. We'll see that for ourselves.

[DNA]

Posted by Aetheric Traveler (here)
Well, I don't have any gold, but the bones I DO have would probably make terrible pendents.

I apologise if you feel this is a dig in the vien of party politics. I don't participate in party politics. I'm niether republican or democrat, but I apologise if the neo-con dig felt aimed at the republican party and this offended you in any way.
I for one don't look at the neo-cons as republicans per se, it seems many folks have successfully in my opinion laid the majority of the evil that has gone in the government for the last thirty years or so at their feet(the neo-cons).
Cathy O'Brien a long time victim of the MKULTRA CIA mind control experiments has first hand testimonial in withnessing evil perpetuated by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfield and George Bush senior. Her testimonials are a must in my opinion to try and get the whole picture. Cathy O'Brien first hand testimonial
Benjamin Fullford lays most of the evil done in the world at the feet of the neo-cons in his various interviews.
Conner O'Ryan a whistle blower sentry for Area 51 claims Dick Cheney used to come and visit the place and bring visitors to see the dead greys kept there.
In an interview with Dr. Richard Boylan, Colonial Steve Wilson stated that there were 33 levels of top secret. And Colonial Steve Wilson who is the highest level whistle blower I have ever heard of stated that Dick Cheney is at the top of the chain of command as far as the secret government is concerned.
Q33- Maji = Millitary agency for joint intelligence.
Q32- MJ-12 = 36 Members as of 1994.
Q31- Aerospace Technology and Dollars.
Q30- 1010 security squadron. This is given to the Wackenhut Corporations 4 highest officers.
I have a thread on this here. S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean
Also, and I don't mean to ramble, but it is pretty conclusive that 9-11 was an inside job, and we all know who was in office at the time it occured. Cheney telling Norad to stand down so they wouldn't shoot the hijacked planes out of the sky. Building seven getting pulled. Martin P Bush being in charge of security for the 9/11 complex, and yes, this is George Bush's brother.

[Ria]

DNA I have had a lot of trouble trying to watch the Jim Sparks material, sound would cut out from 5/13 on wards, I assume TPTB are messing with it.
Was the purpose in putting this out in this thread to show how minds can be played with? if there is another way to have the info I would appreciate it.
One of the things that was repeatedly said by Ishtar is when she goes on her shamanic journeys she protects her self and is surrounded by unconditional love which has a soft euphoric quality about it. Jim on the other hand said that the ET's can appear in different forms and put ideas into your head, yet their presence is very unpleasant, according to Sparks.
p.s., the euphoric thing I have experienced

[DNA]

Posted by Ria (here)
DNA I have had a lot of trouble trying to watch the Jim Sparks material, sound would cut out from 5/13 on wards, I assume TPTB are messing with it.
Was the purpose in putting this out in this thread to show how minds can be played with? if there is another way to have the info I would appreciate it.
One of the things that was repeatedly said by Ishtar is when she goes on her shamanic journeys she protects her self and is surrounded by unconditional love which has a soft euphoric quality about it. Jim on the other hand said that the ET's can appear in different forms and put ideas into your head, yet their presence is very unpleasant, according to Sparks.
p.s., the euphoric thing I have experienced

That is a bummer, I"m four videos in, and it has been awesome so far. I can suggest the coast to coast interview on youtube done with Art Bell, that one was really good.
Also, our own Bill Ryan interviewed Jim Sparks. So I guess we could go with that one.
Also I think it is important to point out that Ishtar is talking about EDs (extra dimensionals) these folks visiting Sparks are actual physical beings.
And I don't mean to sound pessimestic, but I don't know what kind of visualization is going to stop them if they want to pick you up.
As far as the greys projecting a unpleasent presence, I have had a few dreams that included interactions with these folks as a teenager before I had any abductee information, and yes, their presence seems to be terrifying.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RnMwWyfTwU

[Ria]

Yes I did understand the differences between ED and ETs I was not suggesting visualization would stop them. Only perhaps away to identify a negative ET to a positive one or a negative ET trying to mimic a positive ED. sorry I was not clear.

[RedeZra]

Posted by Ria (here)
Yes I did understand the differences between ED and ETs I was not suggesting visualization would stop them. Only perhaps away to identify a negative ET to a positive one or a negative ET trying to mimic a positive ED. sorry I was not clear.

angels manifest in the Bible and even eat food and wrestle with man and so an entity might appear as flesh and blood but he or she is not necessarily so

this is beyond our rational understanding but my point is that there is no clear cut distinction between ET and ED


in the Bible negative ET ED or spirits flee from Jesus and the Apostles cast out these in the Name of Jesus

so the test or medicine to check the nature of ET ED or spirits is the Name of Jesus



Joe Jordan has been a Mutual UFO Network Field Investigator since 1992 and is the President and co-founder of CE4 Research Group an Alien Abduction investigation and research team

http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4unholycommunion.htm

[Ria]

Redezra, I personally find you difficult to relate to,
Firstly, I am trying to clarifying information about J Sparks.
Secondly. The Bible you bring up over and over in all your post, feels very much like bible bashing.
Thirdly. To be literal about the Bible having been proved many, many, many times that Jesus did not wright the Bible or his Apostles, added to the fact that there are many version of the Bible all pro-porting to be the one true one.
With volumes of miss representation, I do not feel it possible to hold a objective conversation, albeit well meaning.
Fourthly. I have spent a few decades now, looking into a number of different version pertaining to Christ's life.
Fifthly. My self, family and friends, have had angel encounters.
The last two points I bring up, is only to inform you, that I am not completely ignorant on the matter, and I will not be going into my own experiences at this time. Thank you.
I would question that there are distinctions, and ultimately it will not be beyond us to understand all.