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    Here is a 20 min video about the soviet space program in it's early stages. Sputnik been the first artificial satellite to orbit the Earth, launched from a modified R7 ballistic missile achieving over a 1000 full orbits of the Earth and transmitted it's basic radio signal for 22 days.
    Laika the dog that died after a few hours on space because of malfunction due to temperature control.

    In northern Italy outside of Turin, two brothers Cordillia (don't know the right spelling)with home made radio equipment had been tuned in communications from space since the days of Sputnik 1. They recorded many transmissions from the soviet space program and in one of them, you can hear a female Russian astronaut entering earth feeling the heat and seeing a flame asking if it's dangerous?....am I going to crash??

    Anyone here has any knowledge about this info??

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    An extremely well-done documentary, full of fascinating archive footage and professional quality narrative: I found myself riveted.

    *** The recording of the apparent last transmission of an unknown and unacknowledged female cosmonaut (at 15:36) is chilling, emotional, and deeply unnerving. Must watch.

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    Amazing documentary seko. Thanks for posting this.

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    Very interesting. i wish they would not have gone public with it in the sixties. I would have liked to know much more of the hidden.

    I bet that they knew that reentry would be difficult if not impossible and they sacrificed the women (like the dog) to study it. Oh..... don't I presently feel paranoi about machoism!

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    Wow! Thanks for this post!
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    Thank you Seko,

    I had heard this before, and Clyde Lewis of ground zero radio has done whole shows about this subject. It was indeed chilling and awful to hear that poor woman's voice.

    Borden.

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    By the way ... does anyone else think this makes a mockery of NASA? I have never heard a decent explanation of how a few guys in a tin can avoided being toasted quite thoroughly by the Van Allen belt. Apparently the Russian space program (officially) just raised their eyebrows and said ... "how did you do that?"

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    Humans are willing to go all the way trying to achieve their ambitions or dreams, unfortunately people will die in some cases.

    The female cosmonaut and the hundreds of men that died, have died almost in vain, cause in the space race they haven't achieved anything useful for human kind in the last 50 years.

    Going to the moon was great for them, but not very useful for anyone here.

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    That made me pretty sad to watch...

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    Very interesting. If you desire some more infos you can listen some audio recordings at the judica cordiglia site http://www.judicacordiglia.it and here also in english http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/

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    a day late and a dollar short as usual...but the Soviets were less concerned with human collateral damage than results. They nearly destroyed their own program by hubris. But, in the U.S. the sentiment has always been that the 'socialist' nation of the Soviet Union always proceeded in that fashion. Which is a pretty incongruous position, don't you think.
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    what do you mean we got nothing from it? We got velcro, wonder mattresses, microwaves, and the knowledge that Russians knew enough to use a pencil rather than develop a pen for millions of dollars to write in zero gravity.

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    Hi US,

    We finally found something to agree on...
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    Quote Posted by prema1968 (here)
    Very interesting. If you desire some more infos you can listen some audio recordings at the judica cordiglia site http://www.judicacordiglia.it and here also in english http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/
    Thanks a lot for the links prema1968

    Quote .but the Soviets were less concerned with human collateral damage
    It seems that both nations are less concern about the human collateral damage IMO

    Quote what do you mean we got nothing from it? We got velcro, wonder mattresses, microwaves, and the knowledge that Russians knew enough to use a pencil rather than develop a pen for millions of dollars to write in zero gravity.
    Nice sense of humour US hahaha I love the pencil story which is true by the way.

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    Do you have an emotional investment with the Soviet Union? I don't know, it might be that you are very correct in that. I have always viewed 'propaganda' with a skeptical eye. I don't know what the real result of a comparison concerning program life loss would be but it could be enlightening. In the U.S. the 'open' space program's standard operating procedure has always been heavily influenced by public perception. Essentially, that's what killed the Space Shuttle program. A hysterical public reaction to the loss of the Columbia (I attended one of the on-site memorials for the astronauts) dictated political direction. The active Space Shuttles were only at the half-life point of flight worthiness and while the astronauts were not ecstatic about the safety conditions they were willing to accept the risk. Fear of negative public reaction killed it in its tracks.
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    what do you mean we got nothing from it? We got velcro, wonder mattresses, microwaves, and the knowledge that Russians knew enough to use a pencil rather than develop a pen for millions of dollars to write in zero gravity.
    i remember hearing that. *facepalm*
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    Quote Posted by prema1968 (here)
    Very interesting. If you desire some more infos you can listen some audio recordings at the judica cordiglia site http://www.judicacordiglia.it and here also in english http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/
    Excellent info about the lost cosmonauts on the links prema1968 provided.

    Quote Few people realize in these days when satellite dishes are found on every other rooftop that, back in the early sixties somewhere in the hilltops near the northern italian city of Turin, two young italian brothers were prying into the most guarded secrets of the mighty Soviet Union. The space race was in full swing, providing the battleground for a vital propaganda confrontation between East and West, in the midst of the cold war.
    The Judica-Cordiglia brothers, sons of one of Europe's foremost pathologists, set up a listening post which probed the cosmos and successfully tracked all the early american and soviet unmanned satellites.
    The geographical location of their station proved particularly suitable for the reception of soviet space vehicles, which regularly overflew Northern Italy during their approach to the soviet tracking centers in the Caucasus.
    Using an array of advanced equipment, the two young italians soon learned which radio frequencies to monitor and how to predict the overfly times of the various space probes.
    One day in early 1961, weeks before Yuri Gagarin's epic space flight, instead of the usual beeping tones which they had become accustomed to hear, they were startled by a sound which signaled a new chapter in the history of mankind: there, in the listening center of "Torre Bert", these two young students heard, clearly and unequivocally, the beat of a failing heart and the last gasping breaths of a dying cosmonaut.

    The incredible, disturbing real-life events which are presented on this site are being uncovered for the first time outside the restricted community of 'insiders' who have, for reasons unknown, decided to protect the secrecy of the Soviet Establishment.
    Read on, everything you will find is true.

    As well as the last words form the unknown and brave first female russian astronaut. Terrible tragedy.

    Quote five...four...three ...two...one...one
    two...three...four...five...
    come in... come in... come in...
    LISTEN...LISTEN! ...COME IN!
    COME IN... COME IN... TALK TO ME!
    TALK TO ME!... I AM HOT!... I AM HOT!
    WHAT?... FORTYFIVE?... WHAT?...
    FORTYFIVE?... FIFTY?...
    YES...YES...YES... BREATHING...
    BREATHING... OXYGEN...
    OXYGEN... I AM HOT... (THIS)
    ISN'T THIS DANGEROUS?... IT'S ALL...
    ISN'T THIS DANGEROUS?... IT'S ALL...
    YES...YES...YES... HOW IS THIS?
    WHAT?... TALK TO ME!... HOW SHOULD I
    TRANSMIT? YES...YES...YES...
    WHAT? OUR TRANSMISSION BEGINS NOW...
    FORTYONE... THIS WAY... OUR
    TRANSMISSION BEGINS NOW...
    FORTYONE... THIS WAY... OUR
    TRANSMISSION BEGINS NOW...
    FORTYONE... YES... I FEEL HOT...
    I FEEL HOT... IT'S ALL... IT'S HOT...
    I FEEL HOT... I FEEL HOT... I FEEL HOT...
    ... I CAN SEE A FLAME!... WHAT?...
    I CAN SEE A FLAME!... I CAN SEE A
    FLAME!...
    I FEEL HOT... I FEEL HOT... THIRTYTWO...
    THIRTYTWO... FORTYONE... FORTYONE
    AM I GOING TO CRASH?... YES...YES... I FEEL HOT!...
    I FEEL HOT!... I WILL REENTER!... I WILL REENTER...
    I AM LISTENING!... I FEEL HOT!...
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