Ron Paul (2012-2013)

[Maia Gabrial]

Now if we can get the other 500 million Americans to realize this, we could put that corporation out of business and in prison where they belong.... You know, everything they've obtained with our tax dollars belongs to us, too.

I'm with Ron Paul. No way I'm voting for Romney either. I'll write Ron Paul's name in if I have to, because neither Romney nor Obama are up to my standards.

[Maia Gabrial]

On an interview James Gilliland had with George Kavassilas, he mentioned that he doesn't vote anymore because it's pointless. Now that I know that the American govt was hijacked, I think I'm not voting anymore either.To hell with the corporation....
When the American govt takes back its authority and RIGHTFUL place as our true govt, then I'll vote again... The US corporation is a serious cancer now....

[ulli]

Voting for a 1% candidate whom one considers as the best representative of one's conscience
is still better than voting for the lesser of two evils,
as the former is detached from outcomes, yet true to self,
and the latter is a fear-based choice, so no good can ever come of it.

If every one would understand that and act on it
the transition to a new system would be so much smoother.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by ulli (here)
Voting for a 1% candidate whom one considers as the best representative of one's conscience
is still better than voting for the lesser of two evils,
as the former is detached from outcomes, yet true to self,
and the latter is a fear-based choice, so no good can ever come of it.

If every one would understand that and act on it
the transition to a new system would be so much smoother.

If everybody understood that, there'd be no need for a transition.

[ulli]

Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
Voting for a 1% candidate whom one considers as the best representative of one's conscience
is still better than voting for the lesser of two evils,
as the former is detached from outcomes, yet true to self,
and the latter is a fear-based choice, so no good can ever come of it.

If every one would understand that and act on it
the transition to a new system would be so much smoother.

If everybody understood that, there'd be no need for a transition.

I still would prefer a different voting system, without campaigning, and plurality vote.
A world commonwealth could work then...

[nimmer]

I love Ron, but he isn't going to be on the ballot. I get frustrated when people say they are going to write him in. In many states a vote for a write-in candidate isn't even counted unless they register themselves as such. Instead of writing in Ron Paul (which likely will not be counted if he has not registered himself as a write-in), I urge people to take a look at Gary Johnson (Libertarian Candidate). He is the only official candidate on the ballot who supports true freedom. Let's not forget Ron ran as a Libertarian before.

Well either way... I'm not sure we will ever have a proper government until people take care of their own inner issues.

[Maia Gabrial]

I think I'll vote again WHEN the American govt takes back its hijacked AUTHORITIES from the US corporation. The system is so corrupt it's broke. No candidate will be able to fix it IMO no matter how honest they are. If Ron Paul or Jesse Ventura were voted in, they'd be fighting an uphill battle and accomplishing nothing. Maybe even assassinated...(BTW there's a hit out for Ron Paul)

And what's the point of voting for either side when the TPTW had their candidates chosen years in advance? We go through the motions like good little puppets.

Years ago, one of my college instructors asked me who I was going to vote for. Like a dummy, I told him and he immediately said that I was throwing away my vote. I didn't agree with him then, but even less now. Even the candidates know they've been chosen years in advance. The Kenyan, Obama was how old when he told the postman he was going to be president of the USA corporation? My vote wouldn't have mattered one way or the other. Now that I know that there's DEFINITE voter fraud with the voting machines, Egads!. It's sad that good people still believe that the system is working, when it's totally opposite the truth....

But I will be watching for REAL changes in the system.... One can only hope....

[jackovesk]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
I think I'll vote again WHEN the American govt takes back its hijacked AUTHORITIES from the US corporation. The system is so corrupt it's broke. No candidate will be able to fix it IMO no matter how honest they are. If Ron Paul or Jesse Ventura were voted in, they'd be fighting an uphill battle and accomplishing nothing. Maybe even assassinated...(BTW there's a hit out for Ron Paul)

And what's the point of voting for either side when the TPTW had their candidates chosen years in advance? We go through the motions like good little puppets.

Years ago, one of my college instructors asked me who I was going to vote for. Like a dummy, I told him and he immediately said that I was throwing away my vote. I didn't agree with him then, but even less now. Even the candidates know they've been chosen years in advance. The Kenyan, Obama was how old when he told the postman he was going to be president of the USA corporation? My vote wouldn't have mattered one way or the other. Now that I know that there's DEFINITE voter fraud with the voting machines, Egads!. It's sad that good people still believe that the system is working, when it's totally opposite the truth....

But I will be watching for REAL changes in the system.... One can only hope....

I 'HEAR' your Pain Maia Gabrial...

Its only when you literally 'Wake Up' to the CON and experience the 'Malice' forced upon us (ALL) by these Psychopathic Corporations can you post a 'Painful & Heartfelt' cry of desperation towards your fellow Americans to do the same...

Hoping & Wishing the rest will 'Wake Up' in time, not only to accept 'Reality'. But more 'Importantly' to do something about it..?

The 'Secret Govt' (IS) the Corporations in cahorts with their Beureacratical & Govt. Minions (overseen by Royalty/Secret Societies/Religious Controllers) that 'Bribe' the Politicians, that 'Lobby' for legislative Bills to suppress competition or to move jobs offshore.

This is literal 'INSANITY' and 'CANNOT' continue for much longer because the CON-Is-Up and the PTW know it, hence why all the Draconian Measures are continuing to be 'Dropped like Bombs' upon us all to quell the Dissention by Stealth..!

You know something Maia Gabrial, I know exactly what you are going through, however I do take sollice in the 'Fact' that I can look the 'Guilty directly in the Eye' and say 'I KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING' and second by second, day by day, week by week & year by year (More & More) people are feeling the same way...

Its only when the 'Truth' starts to rise in the Human Psyche & Consciousness, we will eventually see the Parasitical 'Stack of Cards' Crumble and Implode all around and ontop of them..! That day is not quite with us yet, but its not far away...

Never evey loose ones sight of the 'Truth' through the Power of Thought & Intention, it is really all we need in order to defeat them..!

[Maia Gabrial]

Yes, Jackovesk, I'm hoping that billions and billions can look them in the eyes and know the truth. I totally agree with you. TPTW are finished.
You know all those satanic rituals they performed, the ones that intended harm to others? The beauty about majic is that when a spell or curse is done with the intention of bringing harm, it returns to the sender(s) 3 times worse!!!

All this time they thought that they could keep it going and not ever pay the price. So many satanic rituals that sealed their fate....
So, that's why the TPTW have lost everything. It's finally caught up to them. How great is that?
I'd love it if more people would affirm THIS everyday.

As I see it, that Illuminati pyramid has fallen apart and is blowing in the wind.... And what a lovely sight that makes....!

[kathymarie]

1871, I believe....not 1861.

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01. Rights belong to individuals, not groups; they derive from our nature and can neither be granted nor taken away by government.

02. All peaceful, voluntary economic and social associations are permitted; consent is the basis of the social and economic order.

03. Justly acquired property is privately owned by individuals and voluntary groups, and this ownership cannot be arbitrarily voided by governments.

04. Government may not redistribute private wealth or grant special privileges to any individual or group.

05. Individuals are responsible for their own actions; government cannot and should not protect us from ourselves.

06. Government may not claim the monopoly over a people's money and governments must never engage in official counterfeiting, even in the name of macroeconomic stability.

07. Aggressive wars, even when called preventative, and even when they pertain only to trade relations, are forbidden.

08. Jury nullification, that is, the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts, is a right of the people and the courtroom norm.

09. All forms of involuntary servitude are prohibited, not only slavery but also conscription, forced association, and forced welfare distribution.

10. Government must obey the law that it expects other people to obey and thereby must never use force to mold behavior, manipulate social outcomes, manage the economy, or tell other countries how to behave.

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[Alie]

HARDHITTING!!!!! Yea Ron Paul!

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[GlassSteagallfan]

Here is the problem with Ron Paul on the monetary issue:

At 3:00 approx, Dr Paul admits that the system is 'flawed'.

At 8:15, Bernanke say "there's no constitutional reason why Congress couldn't take over monetary policy". The constitution ONLY allows congress to coin money (Article 1 Sec 8)

Then Dr Paul says, at 8:32, "I want to work within the [current] system"


You see, Ron Paul will keep the current financial paradigm going. A gold standard will not change much of the current policy. After all, who has all the gold?

Without the congress taking over monetary policy and creating a national bank, unconstitutional foreign banks like the Federal Reserve will continue to dictate monetary policy in favor of themselves, even under a gold standard.

Now I understand why LaRouche doesn't support Dr Paul's financial policy.

Also, Dr Paul is not a co-sponsor for HR 1489 Return to Prudent Banking [Glass Steagall].

[T Smith]

Posted by GlassSteagallfan (here)

A gold standard will not change much of the current policy. After all, who has all the gold?

[Glass Steagall].

Returning to a gold standard may have other problems associated with it, but the implication that bankers could horde gold and control the money supply is not one of them. This is generally misunderstood, and understandably so, since we are all conditioned to understanding monetary economics via a fiat paradigm. Gold as legal tender changes the dynamic entirely. A gold standard would serve to decentralize the money supply, which makes hording and controlling the money much, much more difficult. In other words, to address your question directly, who has all the gold? The people do, in their pockets. You and me.

[Alie]

Thank you to GlassSteagallfan & T Smith

I know NOTHING about the monetary system except one thing .... Stand up to the Federal Reserve, which is why I said Yea Ron Paul. But maybe Lyndon LaRouche & Ron Paul should have lunch together. I wish I could host it

Got any ideas?

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by T Smith (here)
Returning to a gold standard may have other problems associated with it, but the implication that bankers could horde gold and control the money supply is not one of them.

It isn't? according to whom? Have you even DONE any legwork to prove this isn't the case? Or is this just yet another one of those "You left-brained people could never understand anything that has to be taken on faith!" style statements? The ones where we're supposed to magically believe that this cannot happen so that when it does the bankers involved can easily cover it up?

Posted by T Smith (here)
This is generally misunderstood, and understandably so, since we are all conditioned to understanding monetary economics via a fiat paradigm. Gold as legal tender changes the dynamic entirely.

Okay, so can you explain to us this misunderstanding? Can you say what it is, how it happens and how it is not true?

Posted by T Smith (here)
A gold standard would serve to decentralize the money supply, which makes hording and controlling the money much, much more difficult. In other words, to address your question directly, who has all the gold? The people do, in their pockets. You and me.

Oh, so by taking this as your answer to the above as your preliminary answer then that means: The misunderstanding is that people don't all believe what I do, and it's not true because everything I believe is magically true? How the hell do the people have the gold? Does every one of us have a deposit? How big is it? How much can we redeem it for in these new "liberty" dollars? How do you repatriate all of the gold that was stolen under FDR? How do you decentralize and keep decentralized a finite material commodity? Define decentralization in this context if you will please and define in all full specificity the mechanics that will keep this currency decentralized.

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[jackovesk]

This is tough I know...

I enjoyed the 'Liberty Take-Off' while it was just you running the show Ron Paul...



But after your 'SLY SON' Rand slipped through 'Under The Radar' and joined the 'Globalist Cabal'...

Like I said "Its been a 'Long & Wild' ride, BUT in the end I had to BAIL after Rand 'Crashed the Party' and took your Credibility away...



If Rand were my son, there would'nt have been a 'Fat Chance in Hell' I would have allowed him to endorse Romney..!

[T Smith]

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)

Okay, so can you explain to us this misunderstanding? Can you say what it is, how it happens and how it is not true?

Sure, I can try to explain. Our understanding of money is based on a paradigm of fiat, which, literally translated, from Latin, means, "let it be". The powers that be, in this case those who enjoy the monopoly of defining what money is and how much or little we can use to exchange for goods and services (Federal Reserve), can literally control the means of exchange by letting money be, or by letting money not be. Rendered to the simplest terms, this is a plank of enslavement. Those who enslave us literally create the money supply by waving a wand, i.e. by "letting it be", and then they expand or contract the supply of money accordingly to control the economy and all of us worker bees who make the economy work. The power that drives the machine is engrained in our very psyches, even if we do not consciously understand the what, the why, and the who in all the abstract dynamics, and those of us who are aware enough to intuitively understand that there is a controlling power behind the scenes necessarily assume that the same power would exist under any system of money, e.g., we assume this power derives from wealth, and we assume the rich and powerful would somehow buy their way into a position of gaming the system at the expense of the commoners given any monetary system. But the power we're acknowledging here does not derive from wealth. This is the general misunderstanding. It derives from "fiat", e.g., from creating and extinguishing money by fiat, or by simply waving a wand and "letting it be". This power does not exist where the money is linked to a material commodity (save for alchemy, in which case all bets are off). In other words, it doesn't matter how rich or powerful one is, unless you can wave a magic wand and create a pile of gold and extinguish a pile of gold (as the powers that be can in our current system of fiat), you cannot control the money supply, nor can you enslave a population.

To answer your second question: How do the people have the gold? Every single person who participates in the economy, from the seven-year-old who runs a lemonade stand, to a bus driver on the street, to the tycoon who oppresses his underlings, receives gold (or a bill or certificate redeemable for gold) in exchange for that which they produce. In other words, if you work and take payment, you have gold. If you save, you have capital. You have a real piece of the economy, instead of that elusive measurement of the economy deemed and determined by the controllers. One might argue that the bankers could corner the market and manipulate the price of gold (e.g. the Hunt brothers/silver market circa 1980s) or they could simply seize power by taking all the gold and only allowing scraps to their groveling subjects, as DeBeers did with diamonds (this, by the way, is an indoctrinated understanding of the monetary system based on real-life experiences of fiat)... but this simply would not happen given the laws of economics. The bankers still have to pay their slaves real money (and deplete their own stockpile of wealth in so doing) for their services. In short, there is no indentured servitude given a system of sound money.

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