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    There has been a thread about wanderers in which I mentioned about meditation.
    A couple of people have mentioned that they have problems getting started, others have tried different systems.

    I am not an expert in this, but I do think a separate thread to talk about meditation is required.

    I will tell you what I have learned about meditation in as simple form as I can.

    1) You have to do it
    2) No one will do it for you
    3) Regular daily practise is essential for rapid progress
    4) There are as many ways to meditate as there are people on the planet!
    5) There are good systems that work for many people
    6) There are systems that donít work so well for many people (but still work for some people)
    7) You can make up your own system, but it is often a good idea to try a mainstream system and see how you go Ė to get started
    8) There are some common themes in common meditation wisdom: breathing is important and deserves focus; silence is very handy; thoughts are ok, watch them as an observer
    9) Very many mediatorsí encounter layers of experience, the more you do the deeper you can go.
    10) Teachers are useful. When you need them, you will get them Ė so donít worry about this

    If you have nowhere to start, allow me to make a suggestion that could at least get you past the first hurdles. This is how I do it. Even doing all this can be a real drama for some people - it was for me to start with

    a) Get up at the same time each day, then before you eat....
    b) Sit in a chair (obviously there are many postures you can use, I find just sitting on a firm chair with my back upright is just fine)
    c) Shut your eyes - relax
    d) Breath
    e) Mentally express gratitude for the day
    f) Ask for blessing , protection and guidance for this day
    g) Keep Breathing (not joking here, pay attention to it)
    h) Observe your mind at work
    i) Keep going

    Your objective is ultimately to calm your mind. Dont worry about that though, get your rhythm working, and then where you go from there is down to you.

    If you do this for a few weeks, even for as little as 5mins per day, you will probably start encountering some useful synchronicities in your life that will point you in the right direction.

    Meditation is essential. If you don't meditate, please give it a try.

    If you are well enough situated in life that you have the means to read this forum, then I would say it is a fair chance that the life your super-conscious self (or higher self) has created for you has afforded you the means and opportunity to meditate - generally there are no exceptions to this! No excuses - if you are not meditating or at least trying you are handicapping yourselves.

    Please if you are having problems with your meditating, post them up here and let people help.

    Keep it as simple as possible.

    John..

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    [2/April/2013 - I made a subtle change to this post. Fixed some spelling and made a change to where I said the objective was to bring everything to a still focus. I find that was not strictly accurate.]
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    Default Re: Meditating simply

    Excellent post, thank you John.

    I would add.......

    Watch your breath as if an observer.

    Concentrate your attention at the point between the eyebrows (as this is the where the third eye is located).

    Use a mantra (which requires a teacher) or chant om or AUM mentally.




    Love,

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    Absolutely EXCELLENT John!
    Thank you!!!


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    Hi John Thanks for Sharing,
    This is just my Experience with meditation , Most of the time when i meditate , i lay in bed and i use headphone for some binaural beats,
    Few times happen to me , That i get some sort of Sleep Paralysis and i was still concious Or sort of Nerve & Muscle Contraction all around my body (Its Like i feel the flow of energy ).
    I dont know if im doing it good or not.

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    I would like to add if I may, Visualisation. Imagine looking at yourself in a mirror, a full reflected image. Practice filling in all the details.
    I do this and am able to zoom in and out, swirl the image around etc.
    I have read that achieving this takes your mind away from the subconcious suggestions buried deep within????
    Dont know about that but, i feel heaps relaxed after doing it.
    Love. peace and Blessings to you all.

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    Thanks You remind me of something that is so easily forgotten

    Imagine yourself as a source of light might help as well too
    Do this humbly, by acknolidging that you are but a little sparkle in contrast to our source, but a spiritual light you are
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    What could be simpler than just sitting there and shutting up for a while. Everyone has their little twists and extra methods to add - but what works for one is not necessarily best for all.

    I think some of the meditation methods around are perpetrated by TPTW in order to render the process less effective.

    For this reason you must follow your own inner guidance.

    Don't trust me or anyone else on this thread.

    However, do try it - otherwise you won't see for yourself how powerful a bit of daily meditation can be.

    Having slept on this, I realise I forgot to say about why its important to meditate.

    As I understand it the main objective is to achieve mental clarity so that the connection between you and "higher self" works better.

    John..
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    Concentrate your attention at the point between the eyebrows (as this is the where the third eye is located).So true kriya,funny i have always used that technique intuitively,it helps me keep a real strong point of focus pretty much at all times,i also try to do it under the sunlight on an open area near nature be a park or some place similar,thats just my thing tho,i like feeling the sun energy entering my body it makes me feel really good in the process,if you cant be outdoors then use your imagination to create that atmosphere i bet it helps and not hard to create it in your mind hehe.Thanks John for reminding people of such a beautiful an amazing tool thats always at your disposal,remember all you have to do is ask,remember the old saying ask and it shall be given?Be one with your Higherself ,bcs he always with you even if you dont feel it that way,trust me you dont have to reach too far for it just ask and it will come
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    Sometimes, when I meditate - I forget to breath.
    Does this happen to anyone else?

    The barriers of your belief will form the bars which imprison your mind.

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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    Sometimes, when I meditate - I forget to breath.
    Does this happen to anyone else?
    i think thats when you fall asleep but dont realize that you did... then "wake up" and you have to take a big breath... Your mind is thinking and you dont realize when you have fallen asleep or if this is truely sleep state. it has happened to me alot of times...

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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    Sometimes, when I meditate - I forget to breath.
    Does this happen to anyone else?
    It has happened to me. It is not 'falling asleep' (at least in my case) but suddenly realising that it has been longer than usual since the last breath (like twice or three times as long). Now I am trying to pay more attention to breathing in a deep and regular manner while doing meditation.

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    Thank you John for this post, and everyone for all the helpful tips. I'm going to make a more serious effort
    to meditate daily. Thanks again for the encouragement.Peace,
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    Hello. I am not an expert but I would like to remember, especially for those who are starting to make meditation that hard drugs and excessive consumption of alcohol - even days after ingestion prevented from reaching a meditative state. Hanging over the person may think that meditation is not an ideal state because he or she can not achieve the true state of meditation. It's worth staying clean and sober to get into a meditative state. It's an incredible experience. And every day we become stronger and more productive in every way. Forgive my English. Monique.

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    Meditation on Demand
    New research reveals how meditation changes the brain

    By Peter B. Reiner

    Quote In the fall of 2005, the Dalai Lama gave the inaugural Dialogues between Neuroscience and Society lecture at the Annual Meeting of the Society for Neuroscience in Washington, DC. There were over 30,000 neuroscientists registered for the meeting, and it seemed as if most of them attended the talk. The Dalai Lama’s address was designed to highlight the areas of convergence between neuroscience and Buddhist thought about the mind, and to many in the audience he clearly achieved his objective. There was some controversy over his being invited to deliver this lecture insofar as he is both a head of state and a religious leader, and for that reason he largely stuck to his prepared text. But he strayed from the text at least once, reminding the audience that not only was he a Buddhist monk but also an enthusiastic proponent of modern technology.
    Dalai Lama's brain challenge produces split decision
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    the easyest meditation technique, i find is simply following the breath nothing else..... not doing any particular pattern, just allowing observation of the breath. every time the mind wanders just gently without effort bring it back.

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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    Sometimes, when I meditate - I forget to breath.
    Does this happen to anyone else?
    Yes - its common and has happened to me. That is one of the reasons you need to pay attention to it! Once you get the habits correct it will go away.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apnea

    In very advanced forms of pranayama meditation you actually do something like this on purpose - but you are not, you are doing it by accident and sooner or later the bodies safety systems will interrupt you, make you breath sharply and this will interfere with the state you wanted to be in.

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    Thanks people for the responses about forgetting to breath.

    I wonder if I have sleep apnoea now. I figure if I do it while awake, I probably do it while asleep - though if I do I don't wake up when I start breathing again.

    Don't know if this will post - my internet connection is being temperamental (again).

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    Those of you not meditating, please re-consider

    I won't deny this was a shameless bump, but a few people have asked about meditation in the mega-threads and so I wanted to dig up a thread that we could carry on talking about it.

    Gripreaper made a great post here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post93291 , that thread is closed and to save you looking here is the post...

    Quote Posted by Gripreaper
    Well, some simple suggestions are pretty basic. Clean water, energized food, a daily detox protocol, and aerobic exercise and a spiritual practice. I use MMS as my daily detox protcol and I use Activator X to decalcify my pineal gland. This is called "preparing the space" by most avatars.

    What I like to do is go for a walk before I meditate. I tell my conscious mind that the "walk" is for him, and he can chatter and ramble on the entire walk, but when we get home and I sit down to meditate, he must shut up(the ego graybeard speaks of). What spiritual practice you choose is a matter of choice. All roads eventually lead to Rome as the saying goes.

    Energy follows awareness, or what you put your attention on, you become. When I prepare the space in meditation, I "create" a sacred column of energy around my aura, place my body, my soul, my higher self and my I AM presence in the column. This keeps out any energies that you do not intend. Later as you get more proficient you can invite the energies present that you want into the column. I consciously breathe through the heart on the inbreath, breathe in the cosmos, and on the outbreath anchor to the center of the earth. This connects me to the terrestial energy. I also do this through my crown and connect to the celestial energy, back and forth. I continue this until my I AM is fully connected to the great central sun. Once the colors emerge in my minds eye and the white light dove begins to spiral and my mind is completely silent, I do nothing but sit and be.

    What your experience will be at this point is different for each soul, depending on their path and their karma and their intention. Rest assured that the dross will burn in the phoenix fire and the kundalini will enter and fill that space. Trust and let go.
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    I came across a very simple yet powerful course on meditating that will only take 8 minutes of your day and if you are a complete novice (like me) over the space of eight weeks will give you the tools to create peace/change.
    I am half way through the course and already am feeling more centered/calm and positive about things, my usually very active mind seems so much quieter but clearer.

    I read the first weeks instructions (breathe awareness) got up at five every morning and set the timer for eight Min's (doesn't time fly in meditation, , the other thing that i became very aware of is just how much our mind chatters away all the time, i never shut up

    Week two was about External awareness (not much happening at five in the morning, lol)

    Week three, Body awareness, Don't we make some noises, churning creaking etc.... you get the picture!

    Week four is all about the peace/stillness between the thoughts, this week i feel that i have found something powerful within that peace, very hard for me to explain, can't wait for week five.
    The hardest part for me now is not peeking at the instructions for the weeks ahead

    If you haven't given meditation a try then please do.

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    Thanks to all above for the advice and encouragement about meditation...
    I can obviously see the benefits it has for peace of mind and awareness, but every attempt so far has just ended in sleep.
    It's plain to see I've not been out of the sheep pastures for long enough, huh?
    Given time, I'm sure its possible and I keep telling myself I'm on the right road now, so you guys will be the first to know when I finally do achieve a meditative state.
    Thanks again

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