Patrick Geryl's claims of a global cataclysm in 2012

[Midnight Rambler]

Posted by BestLion (here)
Midnight Ramble, do you think they will shut off the entire power grid of the USA..cause some satellite told them to?> or in Russia-China? I dont think they will and that flare will burn out all electronics that are powered in..

I think it may be the most pragmatic thing to do. Better shut the grid down for whatever time it takes for the flare to hit us than to replace all the transformers and have an uncontrollable situation on our hands.

And it is not that some satellite tells someone to shut it off. The camera's on the sun can see the flare come off it and with calculations done by scientists they may be able to estimate the damage the flare could inflict. I have seen some predictions of possible EMP's hitting earth but nothing real has happened (yet). So maybe some protection is set up all along.

[BestLion]

As to this vid. bit slick wasn't it? Clever, relentless and powerful footage of CATASTROPHIC DISASTER, of predominantly, the Japanese in a movieland Tsunami. I wonder when it was made, by whom and the motive?

Dont worry Im nor Patrick not do I write books
If what Patrick says is true, and come to pass, Japan and England will be wiped off the map..they are all near sea level. The tidal wave last year in Japan sadly took many lives..Also Japan is packed full of nuke power plants all of which will go Fukashuma meltdown creating radiation poison that will make the entire area unlivable. France and the UK also have lot of nuke power plants that if earthquakes and flood happen and they meltdown will make them a toxic wasteland. Lets just hope what Patrick says wont happen...if it does...well that 5% of me that think maybe is going to be buying some booze before hand, and I may take the day off work and live it it up..I'll likely get intoxicated around that time..and if I wake up on Dec 26th and the world is still here..well I wont be surprised..only hungover.
Glad you liked the video. if what Patrick says is true thats probably fairly accurate on what will happen. Lets hope all this come to pass and the next ice age is 1,000+ year into the future.

[Second Son]

I think the PTW know more than they are letting on.

A few examples.

I recently had to be at home for an internet install, so I didn't work that day, and spent some time talking to the technician when he arrived. He mentioned that they were going for an all fiber optic system. He talked about how much less signal loss was possible, as well as the increased carrying capacity and band width. BUT, I asked what about the huge expense? Are there maybe other reasons? I saw a very cagey look on his face, and knew I would have to ask directly to get a response. So I popped the 64 thousand dollar question... is your company worried about CME's? His answer? VERY WORRIED.

I met a man at a quick lube garage (of all places) I was waiting to have some tires put on my car. We got talking, and he tells me is is a HAM radio operator. He says that when the Y2K non-event happened, the government enlisted the help of himself and many other radio jockeys to form a seamless network across the state, because of the possibility of disrupted communications. He also told me that they (the HAM operators) have a conference every year, and that there is always a key note speaker at these meetings. I asked what topics were discussed in such circles. He said the last speaker (2010) had been an expert in electro magnetism... a physicist who was part of a NASA commissioned think tank. The man had talked about the same thing as the internet installer. Seems to be a lot of worry about this phenomena in the communications industry.

I have a nuke plant in the southern part of my state *UGH* It has had an appalling safety record over the last handful of years. Most Vermonters want is closed, maybe it was the front page photo in the local paper of flames shooting out the side of one of the buildings, or perhaps the many water leaks, or... I don't know, the lost fuel rods or something (all true) Despite the fact that during community forums, the overwhelming majority (85%) would like to see it closed, guess what the owners of the tired and shoddy old plant decided to do? Increase the power output to MORE than it is rated for! The trunk lines coming off it are massive, BUT they are in the end stage of installing a brand new line running the entire length of the state, right next to the existing one! I would bet it is NOT to increase carrying capacity, but more a redundant line, just in case the primary one fails in the event of a solar phenomenon.

Something IS coming.

[Godiam]

2012 is simply a midway point of a 36 year window which will change the level of conciouness of human beings!

Sure, the Mayan long count calender finishes in late december, this year, but the Earth itself will continue to exist long after we are all gone! (this wont happen for millenia)...... Humankind is continuing to evolve, not phsically, but conciously as we move beyond a paradigm of fear and seperation! We are currently in the crossover period from the age of Pisces, to the age of Aquarius (The so called Golden Age) where we move into an era of Love and acceptance of our many differences, and we learn to honour all the different aspects of humanity and leave behind a time of settling differences through war and violence!

There is so much fear generated around a set of numbers ( I love the term fearporn ) we have to choose whether we wish to focus oor energies on this fear and negativity, or on creating a world of Love and Acceptance!...... The Earth (Gaia) is evolving along with us and there will be no place for peddlars of fearporn in the new reality, I don't understand the mechanics of this, but I just know there is a new paradigm emerging and in 20 years from now the world will be a totally different place to now! (Well, Mine will be anyway)

One more thing, the coming iceage is not that far away, and the Earth always appears to warm, as a precursor to a global cooling!

HUGS.....Godiam

[Arrowwind]

Yes, and isnt it inspiring to know that Avelonians are going to bask in alcohol when the time nears..

is this a sign of the evolution you speak of?

[BestLion]

NASA WARNS COMING DISASTER
More less talk about solar activity. Scientist say if a mass solar flare hits could knock us 100 years back in the past>

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGwoYUtlh0U

[Wind]

The biggest concern that I have is nuclear power, basically we have created a trap for ourselves here on Earth. I don't even want to think about if the power grids go down everywhere... Fukushima is still a mess.

[BestLion]

Very interesting video below about the Solar storm of 1859!
Talks about the effects on mankind if a solar flare like 1859 hit the earth today.
Solar storm is a serious threat around 2012. Both NASA and ESA confirmed the next huge solar storm between September 2012 and May 2013. We all heard about the big one in 1859 and it looks like we are not far away from another one coming our way.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30TXQkNBB9k

[BestLion]

According to George Ure, over at UrbanSurvival.com Patrick sent him the key solar doom dates till 12/21/2012, which are:
The good news is that we have at least one person on earth who starts to get grips on the solar cycles and the sunspot theory. The bad news is that he seems to be right. This is bad because of the calculations and predictions regarding December 21, 2012 get even more credibility.
Cycles Left Sun-quake Dates
10 Sunday, August 01, 2010
9 Monday, October 25, 2010
8 Tuesday, January 18, 2011
7 Thursday, April 14, 2011
6 Friday, July 08, 2011
5 Sunday, October 02, 2011
4 Monday, December 26, 2011
3 Wednesday, March 21, 2012
2 Thursday, June 14, 2012
1 Saturday, September 08, 2012
0 Sunday, December 02, 2012
Herein, Gov. Jesse Ventura echoes a grave warning from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (N.A.S.A.) and the National Academy of Science: namely, record-level solar flares and coronal mass ejections will *soon* destroy the world's power grids. Consequently, all broadcast transmitters will suddenly go dead, very likely within a matter of months — and all radio and TV receivers will also go dead, suddenly and unexpectedly. Only those broadcast transmitters and receivers that have independent power supplies will operate.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRcpYlpPU7I

[gooty64]

Posted by StarSeed (here)
The biggest concern that I have is nuclear power, basically we have created a trap for ourselves here on Earth. I don't even want to think about if the power grids go down everywhere... Fukushima is still a mess.

I live 5 miles-as the crow flies-from a nuclear power plant. Prairie Island (cute name!) Nuclear Power Plant est. 1973.

I am in Wisconsin and the plant is just across the mighty Mississippi River in Minnesota. Spent fuel is piling up at the plant because, plans to ship the fuels off site "fell through".

As I am wanting to move, what I am curious to learn more about is the probabilities of where it is safe to live in the USA or the planet in case of a meltdown.

Prairie Island Nuclear Power Plant
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Prairie Island Nuclear Generating Plant



Location of Prairie Island Nuclear Generating Plant
Country United States
Location Red Wing, Minnesota
Coordinates 44°37′18″N 92°37′59″WCoordinates: 44°37′18″N 92°37′59″W
Status Operational
Commission date Unit 1: December 16, 1973
Unit 2: December 21, 1974
Licence expiration Unit 1: August 9, 2033
Unit 2: October 29, 2034
Owner(s) Xcel Energy
Architect(s) Fluor Pioneer
Reactor information
Reactors operational 2 x 548 MW
Reactor type(s) pressurized water reactor
Power generation information
Annual generation 8,914 GW·h
Website
Xcel Energy - Prairie Island Nuclear Generating Plant
As of 2011-06-30
The Prairie Island Nuclear Generating Plant is an electricity-generating facility located in Red Wing, Minnesota along the Mississippi River, adjacent to the Prairie Island Indian Community reservation. The nuclear power plant, which first began operating in 1973, has two nuclear reactors (pressurized water reactors) made by Westinghouse that produce a total 1,076 megawatts of power. They are licensed to operate through 2033 and 2034.
The plant is owned by Northern States Power Company (NSP), today a subsidiary of Xcel Energy, and is operated by Xcel Energy and no longer operated by the Nuclear Management Company (NMC).
It is one of two active nuclear facilities in Minnesota and has proven to be the most controversial due to the storage of nuclear waste in large steel casks on-site, an area which is a floodplain of the Mississippi.
In April 2008, Xcel requested that the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) renew the licenses of both reactors, extending them for an additional twenty years. The license renewals were approved in June 2011.[1][2]
The company has also requested the use of a similar storage system at its Monticello plant, which is currently licensed through 2030.
In May 2006 repair workers at the plant were exposed to very low levels of radiation due to inhalation of radioactive iodine-131 (131I) gas. The gas leaked from the steam generators, which were opened for inspection. 131I gas is normally removed by means of a carbon-based filter; in this case the filter had developed a small leak. The NRC deemed this event to be of very low safety significance and notes that it did not result in any overdose.[3]
Contents [hide]
1 Surrounding population
2 Spent fuel storage
3 Seismic risk
4 See also
5 References
6 External links
[edit]Surrounding population

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission defines two emergency planning zones around nuclear power plants: a plume exposure pathway zone with a radius of 10 miles (16 km), concerned primarily with exposure to, and inhalation of, airborne radioactive contamination, and an ingestion pathway zone of about 50 miles (80 km), concerned primarily with ingestion of food and liquid contaminated by radioactivity.[4]
The 2010 U.S. population within 10 miles (16 km) of Prairie Island was 27,996, an increase of 4.6 percent in a decade, according to an analysis of U.S. Census data for msnbc.com. The 2010 U.S. population within 50 miles (80 km) was 2,945,237, an increase of 7.8 percent since 2000. Cities within 50 miles include Minneapolis (39 miles to city center) and St. Paul (32 miles to city center).[5]
[edit]Spent fuel storage

NSP had initially intended to send radioactive waste to a storage facility operated by the United States federal government, but no such site is yet open for use (the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository is under construction, but following heavy opposition is no longer considered an option by the Obama Administration). In 1991, the company requested permission from the Minnesota Public Utilities Commission to eventually store waste in 48 dry casks on the site. Opposition by environmentalists and the neighboring Prairie Island tribe led the Minnesota Legislature to decrease the number of allowed casks to 17, enough to keep the plant operating through approximately 2003.
Eventually, those casks filled, and Xcel Energy requested that the limit be expanded beyond 17 casks. The legislature granted the request, but required the company to make greater use of renewable energy such as wind power and to pay the local Indian community up to $2.25 million per year to help with evacuation improvements and the acquisition and development of new land and to help pay for a health study and emergency management activities.
[edit]Seismic risk

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission's estimate of the risk each year of an earthquake intense enough to cause core damage to the reactor at Prairie Island was 1 in 333,333, according to an NRC study published in August 2010.[6][7]
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[BestLion]

Pole Shift & Pole Reversal in 2012
Author: Patrick Geryl
http://survive2012.com/index.php/geryl-pole-shift.html
In 2012 the next polar reversal will take place on earth. This means that the North Pole will be changed into the South Pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction, together with a huge disaster of unknown proportions.

The historical exploration of cosmology in previous books is founded on the translation of hieroglyphs, cracking of codes, unveiling of the magnetic reversal of the sun, study of old maps, decoding of astronomical clues, geological research, and the discovery of the most exciting archaeological find in modern times.
Considering these I came to the following conclusions:

1. With clock-like regularity, sudden reversals and pole shifts are natural to the Earth. The result is worldwide destruction, and is supported by paleo-magnetic evidence and early manuscripts.
2. The reversal of the poles is attributed to the harmonic cycle of the magnetic fields of the sun.
3. Polar reversals can be calculated precisely on the basis of the sunspot cycle theory or the magnetic field theory, which the Maya and the Old Egyptians were privy to. These secrets are contained in the Labyrinth of Hawara, a huge complex consisting of three thousand rooms.

I explained abundantly clearly that life after a polar reversal is nothing but horror, pure unimaginable horror. All securities you presently have at hand, like - amongst others - food, transport, and medicines, will have disappeared in one big blow, dissolved into nothingness. As will our complete civilization. It cannot be more horrifying than this; worse than the worst nightmare. More destructive than a nuclear war in which the entire global arsenal of nuclear weapons has been deployed in one blow. Are you grasping the facts?

The earth will be subjected to total destruction. It will be many times worse than my description. Terrible hunger, cold and pain, and more will rule your daily life: without hope of a quick recovery, because all knowledge and resources will have been completely destroyed. That will be the reality of your daily life after the forthcoming polar reversal. And it is in this scenario you will have to try to survive.

From Graham Hancocks site Patrick says a few things, and what to expect when the storm hits>
This confronts us with the biggest challenge in human history: the survival of this imminent cataclysm. This gigantic geological disaster will destroy our civilization thoroughly and completely. There is no doubt about that. You can either react with disbelief or with panic, or denial. Or you can roll up your sleeves and make the necessary preparations in order to survive this. And I mean completely roll up the sleeves, because, to put it plainly, what lies ahead of us is very bad. Not to say completely hopeless. I already suffered terrible nightmares, but these will not stop the cataclysm. Three days after the sun's pole reversal in 2012, we will see and be in the following situation:

The polar reversal of the magnetic field of the sun will send a huge cloud of electromagnetic particles into space. As a result all satellites around the earth will be completely destroyed. Immediately hereafter, the poles will crash and the magnetic field of the earth will be supercharged within a short period of time. In an instant, all electronic equipment will be destroyed through an internal short circuit, as a result of the electromagnetic pulse. Through this, 99.9999999999999 percent of our knowledge will be lost within just a couple of hours. Result: our computer-dependent civilization will be wiped away completely.
Huge earthquakes and volcanic outbursts destroy all buildings and installations, leaving them in ruins. Nothing will be left of high-rise blocks and everything else will be leveled. Completely leveled. The following earth crust shift and tidal wave will make the knowledge buried in the ruins, amongst which especially will be books, useless forever.
Almost all regions will have a climate change. All of a sudden Europe and the United States of America will be thrust into a new ice age, in which life is barely possible. As we do not know how big the earth crust shift will be and which parts will be shifted, we also do not know where to restart a civilization. Possible places could be India, South America, Africa and the high mountains of Thailand. Later I will go deeper into that.
Because of the tidal wave and the huge storms that torment the earth's surface, all food supplies will be destroyed. All trees will be uprooted; all growing fields will be lost or drenched with salty and contaminated water. It can take years before sufficient food will be able to be grown again to feed the survivors.
All the drilling installations in the world's oil fields will be torn apart. The wells will either leak into the surrounding areas, or the earthquakes will cover the holes. It is certain that it will be impossible to revive the installation works. They will be lost forever.

All energy supplies will be destroyed. Tanks with petrol derivatives will be torn open and the freed substances will overflow into the environment worldwide. Huge oil slicks from destroyed oil tankers will contaminate the oceans. They will wash ashore in the tidal waves of up to two kilometers in height and will pollute all of the agricultural land.

The magnitude of this problem should really not be underestimated. For years and years the black residue, together with the freed gas oils, will severely contaminate the soil, and make it impossible to grow plants, vegetables and trees.

In order to get an idea of the damage we can expect, you should compare this with an oil spill. Usually this creates a slick of tens of thousands of tons of oil in the sea. This quantity is sufficient to pollute severely hundreds of kilometers of coastline. Masses of sea animal species as well as a huge number of birds die in a greasy goo. But everybody knows this scenario only too well. But do you realize that in 2012, almost all supplies will be released in one go? And what a catastrophe this will cause? Probably not. Some figures will put this in perspective. Every day about eighty million barrels of oil are being drilled up. This amount can cause thousands of big oil spills! If then you also know that the worldwide supplies are sufficient for about three months, you can immediately calculate that about a hundred thousand ecological super catastrophes will plague the earth! This is more than sufficient to contaminate hundreds of thousands of kilometers of coast. In other words, everywhere on this planet you will be confronted with mountains of grunge, a cluttered mess, covering most of the processing capacity of the earth. Besides an almost complete decimation caused by this disaster, the people and animals that are left will perish in this super contamination. I do not know a better reason for reducing these supplies to nil before the disaster takes place!
Harbors and ships will also be completely destroyed in the catastrophic events. The wide-scale transportation of goods with, for instance banana boats or container ships, will be totally impossible.
Cars and trucks will be compressed into tin by the forces of nature and the tidal wave. Some may be reconstructed, if this is done quickly, because the salty water causes rapid oxidation and corrosion. On top of this is the remaining problem of the complete destruction of all energy supplies. And the factories that manufacture car tires and other essential products will not exist anymore… So, therefore, any reconstructed vehicles will not last long.
Hospitals, dentist practices, and all other health services, will be reduced to ruins. Life-supporting knowledge of years of practice will be gone forever. Should you be hurt and even have a small injury, the result could be fatal.
During the earth's crust shift with its titanic quakes, the hundreds of nuclear plants on our planet will be destroyed. It is my biggest fear that the quantity of radioactivity, which will be catapulted into the atmosphere of our planet, will be sufficient to completely contaminate our living environment. Here we will be confronted with the same problem as with that of the oil supplies: gigantic pollution on a worldwide scale. Nobody can escape from this. We really have to take this into consideration. Because the further we stay away from the radioactive debris, for at least the first decades, the bigger our survival chances.
All life-threatening and toxic products from chemical factories will be dumped into our environment. At many places it will take thousands, and maybe even in some cases tens of thousands, of years before everything will be absorbed back into nature. For example, the products that get trapped under the poles can remain there untouched until the next pole shift. Within twelve thousand years they can re-appear. They form a serious danger for all future generations.
Electricity and telephone networks will be torn apart and completely useless. All electricity generating plants will be reduced to ruins. Even more serious will be the following: due to the generated induction currents together with the pole reversal, all electronic and electrical equipment's will be useless for ever!
Airplanes will have crashed already before the pole reversal takes place, caused by the electromagnetic storms coming from the sun. These storms damage the equipment and the airplanes will be uncontrollable.
http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/GerylP1.php?p=5

[Tarka the Duck]

My oh my, BestLion! Such doom laden drivel...I am beginning to wonder why you are posting all this stuff...

To repeat:

Patrick Geryl's ideas are not scientific theories. He indulges in pseudo-science (specifically pseudo-astronomy and pseudo-archeology) and his conclusions are incorrect. We show that his claimed mechanism for physically flipping the earth's core is impossible, and that his claimed results (earthquakes, tsunamis, etc) are incorrect.

Regards
Kathie

[BestLion]

My oh my, BestLion! Such doom laden drivel...I am beginning to wonder why you are posting all this stuff

I post cause the thread is about him and his predictions, Im staying on topic, not that I agree with this...but some posters may be interested in what he has to say..on Hancocks site he explains more on the other pages I posted the link.

[Tarka the Duck]

But you must feel that there is something of substance in what he says, or you wouldn't go to the trouble of posting it. You wouldn't want to waste people's time like that, surely.

Do you therefore disagree with the many comments out there by 'real' scientists made about what they call his "pseudo-science"?

[BestLion]

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)
But you must feel that there is something of substance in what he says, or you wouldn't go to the trouble of posting it. You wouldn't want to waste people's time like that, surely.

Do you therefore disagree with the many comments out there by 'real' scientists made about what they call his "pseudo-science"?

I've said I think he is overly radical..do i feel some substance to this? A little..esp the solar flares..which even on the scale of the 1859 flares could set off havoc. And if the flares as Patrick writes are 25X more powerful then god only knows then what will happen.
In the video on post #89 Gov of Minnesota..investigated this 2012 stuff..and found some shocking info..esp about the many bunkers built "some huge ones near the Denver Airport. btw something fascinating is that painting in the Denver Airport of all places like TPTB are trying to tell us something?? Why at that airport? And why there are their massive bunkers already made and more being made? And if all this 2012 was mumbo jumbo then way are the rich 'who always tend to be greedy' spending millions constructing bunkers or buying a seat in a bunker at the cost of million? That was a bit of a disturbing video. 95% of my thoughts say 2012 will be a non event..5% says something big could indeed happen. I do plan to gather a few things myself as a bug out kit just in case. My Ukrainian neighbors have a rot cellar that is 30 ft underground. And packed with jarred foods..they are also taking precautions and have invited me there if the lights go out. Anyway i'll be on the look out..and if I see strange lights, and unusual activities i'll be running to that bunker...I have a telescope and plan to be watching for unusual actives also around these December days. Overall though I do think it will be a non event..or if is a real event could be like 1859 solar storm..
BTW something that I am fearful of is 70 KM from my home is Europe largest nuke power plant Enagadar... it is located on the Dniper River...If Patricks predictions come true that thing has 6 reactors... dear god I'll be in a world of trouble!

[gooty64]

Pole shift is spoken of by Dunvalo Melchizedek, Keisha Crowther, Don Alejandro and many other sources.

Here is a short 3 minute segment beginning @ 6:10 of this video that explains "How to Survive a Pole Shift".

This could also apply to a solar flare-I think.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM-acIe15LA

[Godiam]

If the Earth was to flip, ie..... A Pole Shift......there wouldn't be any survival at all!
I believe that everything not attached to the Earth would simply float off into space, so to talk about how hard survival would be after a pole revesal is inane, as we would all be DEAD!!
There is not going to be a pole shift......end of story

HUGS.........Godiam

[gooty64]

Mr. Godiam, How do you know that the earth is done having having pole shifts?

Did the ET's tell you something that I don't know?

The earth has pole shifts every so often historically speaking.

Cuddles.........Gooty

[araucaria]

The difference between Y2K and 21.12.2012 is that the first scare was genuinely linked to a single point in time, when computers moved to 00.00.00. CMEs - if that is what we are worried about - may happen from time to time, but not at any foreseeable instant in the future.

Y2K was not (entirely) a hoax; it failed to materialize because the work was done and most people upgraded their systems in time. It looks like the same is happening this time too. Hooray: for once we are doing things right!

If the guy who comes to install your internet connection knows about the problem with CMEs in relation to new cables being laid, then that suggests two things: a) there is no great conspiracy of secrecy going on, and b) measures are being taken to withstand this problem whenever/if ever it occurs.

The Maya were definitely not tracking CMEs; if they were, then how come they had nothing to say (as far as I know) about the one in 1859? They seem to be about as unpredictable as earthquakes.

Thanks for this thread: it keeps a smile on my face

[BestLion]

Posted by Godiam (here)
If the Earth was to flip, ie..... A Pole Shift......there wouldn't be any survival at all!
I believe that everything not attached to the Earth would simply float off into space, so to talk about how hard survival would be after a pole revesal is inane, as we would all be DEAD!!
There is not going to be a pole shift......end of story

HUGS.........Godiam

How are you sure everything would float off into space? The earth even with a pole shift has gravity. it is just a reversal of the earths rotation..and this has happened before..and not only on earth but places like Venus. The main effect of that would be massive tidal activities.
I don't think we will witness a pole shift ..or may I say a reversal of the earths rotation.
Anyway all past catastrophic events on earth did not kill all things. Somehow tigers survived, humans survived, birds kept flying etc...Thus even worse case senerio in 2012 ..life will still survive.
I have been reading and I am surprised by the many groups who are getting together and preparing for this..Its quit surprising! I dont really plan to do anything myself, but add to my bug out kits "which everyone should have anyway'.
http://www.december212012.org/
I even now see threads on post 2012 and people ready to restart life..