Patrick Geryl's claims of a global cataclysm in 2012

[RMorgan]

Posted by BestLion (here)

End of the world prophecies have been around since the beginnings and it´s all the same thing...Doom, gloom...Nothing happens.

I did a google search now many Christians are using the Mayans as a guide to the Rapture theory..odd they would be using Kukulakhan "who was the Mayans god...to support their own god Jehovah....So more less they are saying Dec 21st jesus will come back and take all his sheep to heaven..while the rest of humanity suffers on earth from fire 'volcano's', water 'floods' and Ice..then whats left of humanity will be seeking a savior and then the antichrist will come and be that.
Anyway Patrick says 80% sure that the world will have an 'event on Dec 21st 2012.' you find that snippet in the video I posted in the last post here on part 2.

Hey sister,

Well, the only event I´m 80% sure will happen on that date will be a party I´ll give in my house for my friends!

Cheers,

Raf.

[BestLion]

Well, the only event I´m 80% sure will happen on that date will be a party I´ll give in my house for my friends!

Haaaa. i will probably have a beer myself on that day. And if something does happen I'll at least go out of this world with a smile. I tend to agree with the Vikings of old, that when a man is old he would wonder off into the woods alone of a cold night..drink to the plastered mark..pass out..and be frozen in the morning.
I aint saying 2012 Dec 21 will be a none event.. Id say 5% maybe something could happen..but odds are probably will be nothing.

[childs hood end]

What a way to go...... beats a heart attack or bin run over.

Is Ascension simply death....

Are we the Dinosaurs...

Peace.

[RMorgan]

Posted by BestLion (here)

Well, the only event I´m 80% sure will happen on that date will be a party I´ll give in my house for my friends!

Haaaa. i will probably have a beer myself on that day. And if something does happen I'll at least go out of this world with a smile. I tend to agree with the Vikings of old, that when a man is old he would wonder off into the woods alone of a cold night..drink to the plastered mark..pass out..and be frozen in the morning.
I aint saying 2012 Dec 21 will be a none event.. Id say 5% maybe something could happen..but odds are probably will be nothing.

Yeah. I can´t say nothing will happen either. Every extra day we live here is a bonus. The human civilization could end tomorrow, could end next second, or it could last for the 10000 years.

The fact is, that we must live with the fact that we can´t predict the future. It´s too complex for our limited brains. We´re simply not there yet.

In my opinion, these doom predictions are very enigmatic. Is there a purpose hidden behind them? It is possible.

Such predictions create spiritual chaos, and there are certain entities that feed on such confused feelings. They also may serve as a distraction for something bigger, the old illusionist trick.

This predictions also generate money, a lot of money. Lots of people sell book, dvds, lectures and this kind of stuff.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by BestLion (here)
I thought it was interesting that Bill and Kerry interviewed the guy! Surely if they didnt think their was one once of truth in what he was saying I doubt they would have wasted time talking with him, and just wrote him off as a nutjob.

This was the only Camelot interview we ever did where we stated a disclaimer in the opening credits.

This says:

Please Note:

The conclusions presented by
researcher Patrick Geryl
in this interview wil be found by
many to be shocking and
unacceptable.

We at Project Camelot do not
agree with his final conclusions.

After some discussion, we have
decided to publish the interview
for two reasons: there are issues
brought up which merit discussion,
and a recent discovery in Egypt
(the Labyrinth at Harawa), which
was extensively referenced by
Geryl, is evidently real and of major
archaeological significance.

Enjoy the interview - and recognize
that Geryl is probably talking about
the T2 catastrophe (see the Dan
Burisch material) which we are very
confident has been averted.

See our major article:
2009: A Tale of Two Timelines
www.projectcamelot.org/2009.html
... for more information and references.

Bill Ryan
Kerry Cassidy
Project Camelot
August 2009

[darren]

Surely if he was correct in his assumptions,then out of 7 billion people,you'd have thought quite alot would have 'picked up' this info,considering how utterly important it would be?

I find it highly dubious myself.

[BestLion]

Appearing in the middle two hours, independent researcher John Major Jenkins discussed what he sees happening in exactly two years based on the Mayan calendar, how that calendar was rediscovered and the various ways the 2012 idea has been interpreted. The Mayan Long Count calendar was developed around 2,100 years ago in Izapa, Mexico, using data calculated over hundreds of years, he detailed. The reason why they chose the end date in 2012 was to "target the rare alignment with the solstice sun with the Milky Way galaxy," though it is a misnomer to think of this as the end of their calendar, he said.
The other big misconception is the 'doomsday' interpretation, first expressed in a book by Michael Coe in the 1960s, and more recently picked up by the media, and in movies like Roland Emmerich's 2012, Jenkins continued. We in the West tend to associate endings with Armageddon, but that is not the mindset of the Maya who thought in terms of cycles, he explained.

Jenkins also talked about his research at Tortuguero, where ancient inscriptions referenced the 2012 date, as well as some of the historiography associated with the Maya & 2012, including the Harmonic Convergence, and the works of Jose Arguelles, and Carl Calleman.
Lunar Eclipse & Dreaming

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwXG755yIrE

[Earth Angel]

Posted by BestLion (here)

Well, the only event I´m 80% sure will happen on that date will be a party I´ll give in my house for my friends!

Haaaa. i will probably have a beer myself on that day. And if something does happen I'll at least go out of this world with a smile. I tend to agree with the Vikings of old, that when a man is old he would wonder off into the woods alone of a cold night..drink to the plastered mark..pass out..and be frozen in the morning.
I aint saying 2012 Dec 21 will be a none event.. Id say 5% maybe something could happen..but odds are probably will be nothing.

if thats what you think why would you even post this in the first place and especially with your original title of the thread??
are you not the same person who complained they didn't have time yesterday to watch the video someone else posted without them providing more info?? perhaps your time would have been most well spent just watching that video.

IF this man was right, personally I would quit my job and live my life to the fullest, not spend it organizing survival meetings, wheel barrows and seeds......who the hell would want to survive for 40 years of no sun in a nuclear waste land?

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Posted by modwiz (here)
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[BestLion]

IF this man was right, personally I would quit my job and live my life to the fullest, not spend it organizing survival meetings, wheel barrows and seeds......who the hell would want to survive for 40 years of no sun in a nuclear waste land?

Agree, and those who survived would have radiation poison, couldn't grow food, couldn't even be hunters and gathers since most animals would be dead. He did mention in the interview that if people did know this info they all would quit their jobs and live it up.
Seems to me the only astronomical things of 2012 is the alignment.
A new Ice Age?? Sure that will come someday..2012? could..3012..Could? As I said i think 5% chance something may happen due to the galactic alignment.

[Tarka the Duck]

This is what the (IMO excellent) 2012hoax site says about his work:



Problems with Geryl's ideas

To people trained in astronomy, Patrick Geryl's idea is laughable. Geryl never seems to explain how he is able to predict this "solar flare"7 years ahead of time when astrophysicists are not able to do so, or how he knows that the magnetic field of his imaginary plasma cloud is going to be opposite that of the Earth. When questioned on these topics, he refers people to his books.

Not massive enough
In order to exert a force on the earth that would cause part of the earth to flip over, you would have to exert as much energy as it would take to stop it, and start it spinning again in the opposite direction. When we are talking about the core earth we are talking about a huge spinning mass. The core of the earth is divided into two parts, the solid iron core which is about the size of the moon, and the liquid outer core which is the size of mars. The inner core rotates with the earth, only slightly out of sync with the rest of the planet8.

Geryl claims that a massive CME is going to flip the core over, physically. Let us assume that he means the solid inner core, which is the size of the moon[7]. In order to turn the core as Geryl claims, the CME would have to be more massive than the core.

This is true for the same reasons that astronauts working on the Hubble had to have their feet bolted to the mechanical arm of the space shuttle. Because if you try to turn a screw in space, you wind up with your body rotating around the screw instead of the screw turning out of the socket. On earth or inside the shuttle you are braced against something. Out in space with nothing to brace against and no gravity to hold you to the ground, you just spin. The CME that Geryl has flipping the core is in the same situation. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Assuming there was no spin at all on the core, and assuming there was a realistic way to couple the two masses, in order to turn the core 180 degrees, the mass of the CME would have to be equal to that of the core, and turn 180 degrees in the opposite direction.

If the CME were less massive than the core, it would have to complete a turn of more than 180 degrees. Something with 1/2 the mass of the core would have to complete a full rotation, etc.

So, how much mass are we talking about?

The volume of the moon is 21.9 billion cubic kilometers. That is 21,900,000,000 km3 or 2.19×1010km3. There are 1015 cubic centimeters in 1 cubic kilometer, or 2.19×1025cm3 in the solid inner core. Iron has a density of 7.874 g/cc, so the mass of the core is 2.19×1025×7.874 or 1.724×1026 grams. In contrast, the average mass of a CME is 1.6×1015 grams, or about 1011 ( That is 100,000,000,000 ) times smaller.

There is no way a CME could be massive enough to turn the core.

Not magnetic enough
In addition to the problem with the mass, there is a problem with coupling the two masses together. Geryl claims that the magnetic field of the CME will push the core over by acting on the magnetic field of the core. This claim also fails.

Let us assume that the solid core is magnetized (it is not, but we'll leave that aside for the moment). Geryl's claim requires a magnetic field strong enough to grab that spinning mass and flip it over. In order to do that the magnetic field strength would have to be much more intense than the magnetic field of the earth.

The strength of a magnetic field obeys the inverse square law. If you double the distance, the field strength falls to one quarter. In order to overwhelm the magnetic field of the earth, the field generated by the CME would have to be stronger than that of the earth. That is actually not that hard to do on a very localized basis. The strength of the field at the Earth's surface ranges from less than 30 microTeslas (0.3 Gauss) in an area including most of South America and South Africa to over 60 microTeslas (0.6 Gauss) around the magnetic poles in northern Canada and south of Australia, and in part of Siberia. Any bar magnet will seize a compass needle, overwhelming the magnetic field of the earth within several inches of the magnet. However, a CME is a large, diffuse object, and its magnetic field would have to be much larger than that of the earth in order to affect the core.

Even if you took a second earth and (ignoring gravity) brought it next to our earth and tried to flip it magnetically, you wouldn't be able to do it. If you took a second earth with a magnetic field hundreds of times stronger than ours, you still wouldn't be able to do it. You would need a much more massive object with a much stronger magnetic field to overcome the weakness of the magnetic interaction, and the stability of the earth given to it by its spin.

So in order to flip the core, the CME would have to be intensely magnetic and many times more massive than the earth, let alone the earth's core. A CME does not come anywhere near being massive enough or magnetic enough to cause this effect.

Nowhere to hide
Let us assume that we are wrong in our analysis above. Geryl is proposing that his group be given 1 billion US$ in order to build a survival center in the Sierra Nevada mountains of Spain. The problem is, if he were right, there would be nowhere to hide.

Warning: MATH!
The amount of energy expended to flip the core over is immense. The rotational kinetic energy is given by the equation[12]:

(1)
Krotation=12Iw2
where I is the Moment of Inertia and w is the angular velocity. The Moment of Inertia of a solid spinning sphere is approximated by the equation[11][10]

(2)
I=2mr25
where m is the mass, and r is the radius of the sphere. We will take the radius of the core to be that of the moon, or about 1,737 km ( 1.737×106meters ). Substituting these into the Moment of Inertia calculation 2, the calculation of I becomes:

(3)
I=2(1.724×1023)(1.737×106)25
(4)
I=2(1.724×1023)(3.01717×1012)5
(5)
I=2(5.2016×1035)5
(6)
I=1.04032×10365
(7)
I=2.08064×1035
Substituting this into the Kinetic energy calculation 1, we get

(8)
K=12(2.08604×1035)w2
The Angular velocity is measured in radians per second[9]. The earth revolves once per day. That happens to be 0.000072722052166 radians/second or 7.27×10−5 radians per second. Which gives us:

(9)
K=12(2.081×1035)(7.27×10−5)2
(10)
K=12(2.081×1035)(5.28529×10−9)
(11)
K=12(1.09968×1027)
(12)
K=5.49839×1026joules
End of the math
Now, that's a pretty big number. Let's write it out: 54,983,900,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules. In comparison, a 1 Megaton bomb has the defined energy of 4.18×1015 joules. The amount of kinetic energy stored in the rotating core is about 1.316×1011 or 13,160,000,000 megatons. Remember, this number is 1/2 the energy requirement to flip the core over into another orientation. This amount of energy is not going to create earthquakes and tidal waves, it would melt the entire planet.

Thank goodness Geryl is wrong.

Another reason it can't happen
Geryl's idea appears to hinge on the common misconception that the earth's magnetic field is generated in the solid core. It is not, because the solid iron core is too hot to form a magnetic field. The magnetic field it is actually generated in the outer liquid core by the flow of currents of liquid metal. The exact mechanism of these currents is not resolved, and there are various theories as to how the currents that power the magnetic field are generated.

So, even if all of the above objections were overcome, there is no magnetic field in the solid core for the "Gigantic solar flare" to grab onto.

Conclusion

Patrick Geryl's ideas are not scientific theories. He indulges in pseudo-science (specifically pseudo-astronomy and pseudo-archeology) and his conclusions are incorrect. We show that his claimed mechanism for physically flipping the earth's core is impossible, and that his claimed results (earthquakes, tsunamis, etc) are incorrect.

[araucaria]

Thank you Tarka.

@BestLion: who is this 'Kasey' character you keep referring to? Kerry with a generous dose of Edgar Cayce, I fancy

[BestLion]

He mentions in the interview he has sold like 80,000 books..so to him this is his business. I think he will sell lots of books this year, but come 2013 he probally wont be able to sell one book, even his used books on Amazon will sell for 1c.
Kasey is on project Camelot..i think her name is Kasey Cassidy. She is often with Bill Ryan on the interviews.
A Little Background On Patrick Geryl

Here is a little background on Patrick Geyrl, taken from his own website.
Patrick was on a diet of fruit and vegetables, believing this would make him live long, very long. Ironically enough, his own discoveries about the “End of Times in 2012″ shocked him so deeply that it put him on a worldwide quest.

Patrick Geryl is the author of 9 books, written in Dutch of which one was published in Germany, called “Topfit mit Sonnenkost”. All of them became bestsellers. Since his childhood Patrick was also very interested in astronomy and up to now he studied hundreds of publications and books on this subject. In his first published book on astronomy (“A new Space-Time Dimension”, 1979), he launched an attack on the world famous relativity theory: he predicted several spectacular things that were connected to the universe. His predictions were confirmed in the last ten years, getting a lot of publicity in the Belgium press and television.
Through his astronomical knowledge, he discovered a trace leading to a high-developed civilization that was destroyed by a polar reversal. The descendants of this civilization, the Maya and Old Egyptians, predict a similar disaster for the year 2012. Noticing the urgency of this warning, Patrick started an intensive research and wrote three books on this subject.

The first book, “The Orion Prophecy”, was published in 1998 in Belgium and Holland. It was translated and published at the end of 2001 in the USA. After this, translations followed in Polish (Edit. Amber), Spanish (Kier), Bulgarian and Portugese (Pensamento). In the meantime the book became a bestseller in Poland.

“The World Cataclysm in 2012” was published in 2005 in the USA. It also became a bestseller in Poland.

“How to survive 2012” was published at the end of 2006. After these publications, Patrick will mainly spend his time on forming a survival group.

Pole Shift in 2012

In Patrick Geryl’s book “The Orion Prophecy”, he came to the staggering conclusion that in 2012 AD, the earth will be subjected to a huge disaster. The cause: the magnetic field of the earth will reverse in one go, resulting in an enormous shift of the earth’s crust. Virtually nobody will survive this, while at the same time all our acquired knowledge will disappear.

These scientific predictions originate from the Maya and the ancient Egyptians. Both civilizations are descendants of the legendary Atlanteans, and they had an very high-evolved astronomical knowledge. At the time, they were able to accurately predict the tidal wave that would herald the end of their civilization.

This put Patrick to his quest for the background of their calculations. After years of intensive research, he finally succeeded in cracking the millennia-old codes of the Maya and ancient Egyptians. All his findings make up an amazing exploratory expedition into the secrets of a very distant past. What Patrick Geryl discovered is astonishing and concerns everybody. At the same time this discovery explains why the Egyptians built the pyramids of Gizeh according to the star system of Orion.

In 2012 AD, just like it happened in 9792 BC, the year of the last polar reversal, Venus will make a planetary loop above the star system of Orion. In the Egyptian Book of the Dead this is described as the crucial code for the reversing of the poles, because after this, the earth will start turning in the opposite way.



Venus has nothing to do with the change of the magnetic field of the sun. The loop from Venus is only a marker for the year it will happen!

The astronomical description of this phenomenon left by the Egyptians is amazingly clever and beyond any scientific knowledge. Also Patrick discovered that the Dresden Codex of the Maya talks about the sunspot cycle, (about which our modern astronomers know nothing yet!).

At a certain moment, when the sun’s magnetism reaches a crucial point, a colossal catastrophe will destroy the earth. The Egyptian astronomical Zodiac describes the eras in which previous catastrophes occurred and also contains the codes of the sunspot cycle and the movement of Orion: the next disaster will take place when Venus makes a reverse movement above this constellation.

Furthermore, both cultures had incredibly precise calculations for the orbit of the earth around the sun. They are so accurate, that they exceed our present values. Completely astonished by my discoveries, Patrick could do nothing else but consider these ancient particulars as being exact.

And that leads us to the crucial question: should Patrick’s discoveries to be taken seriously or not? Is his case scientifically strong enough? Does Patrick have evidence to back it up? Does Patrick Geryl have enough knowledge of astronomy? Because the calculations of the Maya and Old Egyptians are totally based on this science.

I believe that Patrick does. His previous astronomical predictions have become reality, exactly as he announced them. That is why my discoveries about the Maya and ancient Egyptians should be taken more than seriously.
http://costadelsol.mylocalgazette.co...l-predictions/

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
Patrick Geryl's claims of a global cataclysm in 2012 seems to be off track. I just watched Doc Zone last night with Geryl on with a partner collecting money like there really is no tomorrow. Seems to me he forgot that he won't need any money after Dec 21, 2012.
In fact he is telling everyone that it's going to happen sooner. (Makes the money come in faster and faster.) I guess he wants to have a great time at everyones expense travelling around the world before the big day.
Seems to me like another false prophet.
chancy

[BestLion]

NASA Confirms What Geryl Predicted Last Year
In August of 2010, Patrick Geryl predicted the current solar cycle to be the lowest measured in recent history, and that it will remain that low until end of 2012. NASA states now ”With more than 13 years of sunspot data collected at the McMath-Pierce Telescope at Kitt Peak in Arizona, Matt Penn and William Livingston observed that the average magnetic field strength declined significantly during Cycle 23 and now into Cycle 24. Consequently, sunspot temperatures have risen, they observed.If the trend continues, the sun’s magnetic field strength will drop below a certain threshold and sunspots will largely disappear; the field no longer will be strong enough to overcome such convective forces on the solar surface.” (see here)

“The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle greatly reduced or even eliminated.”

The end of a solar cycle goes hand in hand with the reversal of north and south poles of the Sun, and happens on average every 11 years. The following graph, courtesy of solen.info, a reliable source in matters of the sun, shows that the south pole needs to approach the switch and this seems to be at the end of 2012 indeed:
At the end of the solar cycle, which according to the below graph (and according to Geryl as well as to the calculation of the Maya) would be towards the end of 2012, Geryl (confirmed by the scriptures of the Maya) expects a major solar flare which he refers to as the Killer Flare (see here). NASA until today however calculates this to be early 2013 with a probable Carrington Effect (like in 1859 wiping out all electricity grids). Either way, we’ll soon find out. At this moment science, researchers and ancient knowledge are in agreement about the solar cycles, followed by a super flare potentially impacting life on earth in a drastic and dramatic manner.
More at site>
http://blog.2012pro.com/2012/nasa-co...cted-last-year

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by BestLion (here)
Kasey is on project Camelot..i think her name is Kasey Cassidy. She is often with Bill Ryan on the interviews.

Thanks for letting us know that.

(Her name is Kerry, by the way. It would have taken you just literally a few seconds to check.)

[BestLion]

Patrick Geryl gave up his job more than two years ago. He has saved sufficient money to pull on till 2012. It hardly matters if no money is left after that because according to firm belief of Geryl (and of many other people like him) humankind will have ceased to exist then, or nearly so. December 21, 2012 is the last date. Only those few that have made full preparations beforehand alone would survive the world devastating cataclysm. Billions of other human beings on the Earth would perish.
According to Long Count dates up to 13.0.0.0.0. only can be recorded. This period of 13 baktun is equal to 18,72,000 days. Dividing this number by 365.2420 days of the solar year, one gets 5,125.36 years. Hence, the period of 5,125.36 years that started in the year 3114 BC must come to an end in the year 2012. December 21, 2012 is the exact date calculated by the scholars. Maya calendar does not provide for any time after this date. According to the ancient Maya civilization a terrible cataclysm takes place after every 18,72,000 days and wipes out most of the living beings on the Earth. Thereafter, gradually, living beings start thriving again. The prevalent belief firmly attributes that ancient Maya scholars had purposefully stopped the calendar at 18,72,000 days because the cataclysm unfailingly devastates the Earth at the end of this period. Many people are convinced that the cataclysm will take place on December 21, 2012 and some best-selling books are strengthening their belief.

It will not be proper to end the discussion abruptly after meticulously describing the sinister forecast up to the expected date of its occurrence. The question crying for an answer is:


Which kind of event or happening will cause devastating cataclysm?

The ancient Maya scholars did not elaborate the event or events that will cause unparalleled damage. They simply stopped mapping the time after Long Count. This ultimately made many people believe that end of Long Count tantamount to cataclysm. They associated some catastrophic events threatening the existence of the living beings with the ancient Maya calendar. Each of these threats has always been likely—and very much so today. Here are some examples.

» The solar system is situated near the edge of one of the spiral arms of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. Like other spiral galaxies, Milky Way is flattened and disc-shaped with a bulge in the center where the maximum number of stars is concentrated. Solar system is orbiting the center or the nucleus of 1,00,000 light years expanse of the Milky Way at a distance of about 30,000 light years from the nucleus but its orbital course is not on a plane level. It is an undulating course like a roller-coaster. The present stage of solar system’s course is a descending one. Here, the space is filled with hydrogen gas clouds and dust. This is potentially dangerous situation.

If huge clouds of gas and dust invade the Earth’s atmosphere as it hurtles through the space at the velocity of hundreds of kilometers per second, resultant obstruction to the sunrays will go on increasing and decreasing temperature can cause ice age on the Earth. Major ice ages come once in every 25,625 years, this period is equal to five long counts (5,125 X 5). Incidentally, according to ancient Maya scholars, four cycles of Long Count are over and the fifth cycle is nearing its end on December 21, 2012 which is also the portentous 25,625th year.

» Here is another ominous prophecy for the believers of apocalypse. Eruption of the word’s most potent volcano is long overdue. It can take place any time. This volcano situated in the USA’s Yellowstone National Park is not a mountain like other volcanoes because its gargantuan magma chamber or the lava reservoir is trapped in a geological fault 30 kilometers beneath the surface. Underground water above the magma chamber is transforming into steam and then condensing into water it is spewed as 55 meters high geyser at hourly intervals. This geyser scrupulously maintains its hourly timetable and therefore, the Americans have named it ‘0ld faithful’.

As far as the probability of cataclysm is concerned, geyser is not important but the huge lava reservoir beneath it. No other volcano on the Earth has such as a vast reservoir of lava. Geological studies have confirmed that this volcano at Yellowstone has been erupting every 6,50,000 years and wrecking havoc on the living creatures by throwing giant clouds of millions of tons of dust and ash in the sky. Eventually blocking the sunrays for months together. More than 6,50,000 years have elapsed since its last eruption. The believers of cataclysm are treating the year 2012 as yet another year of Yellowstone’s deadly eruption.

» The time is also ripe for the reversal of the Earth’s magnetic poles. Studies of magnetic specs embedded in subterranean rocks have revealed that magnetic North and South Poles have interchanged their position about 400 times in the past 170 million years. Each time the Earth’s magnetic field had nearly vanished for about 100 years before becoming normal again. During the period of absence of the magnetic field the Earth received tremendous amounts of radiation from the outer space. Deprived of the magnetic shield the living creatures fell prey to the effects of radiation. Hundreds of thousand years have passed since the last reversal of magnetic poles and this event with its calamitous effects is also due any time. End of the world lobby has not failed to connect this phenomenon with 2012.

» Astronomers have forecast 2012 as the year of the most intense solar activity. Huge solar flares and ejection of vast quantities of charged particles of energy (protons and electrons) known as solar wind is expected in this year. It was estimated that the number of sunspots might exceed 140 by the August of this year and might reach 155 by the year end in December. Solar flares known as coronal mass ejections/CME may nearly burn the living creatures on the Earth. Average solar flare has temperature of 1,00,000⁰ Celsius and mass of one billion tons. A large number of people believe that Sun’s wrath will be unbearable this year.

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Thanks for letting us know that.

(Her name is Kerry, by the way. It would have taken you just literally a few seconds to check.)

I dont know why I confuse her name..Yeah kerry..Dont know why I wrote Kasey...maybe cause today i was reading some of Edgar Cayce's stuff..Sorry about that

[Tarka the Duck]

Hello BestLion

I'm curious...what is your opinion of Geryl's work?

Kathie

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Oh this is a gem :D

Twinni grins devilishly

[BestLion]

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)
Hello BestLion

I'm curious...what is your opinion of Geryl's work?

Kathie

Mixed to be honest. I am very interested in what he has found in Egypt esp the labyrinth-hall of records.. Seems they found it but Hawass wont let em do anything.
On his 2012 stuff..He makes some good points about galactic alignment, and solar flares that should not be dismissed, and also about the past ice ages..that do happen every 25,000 or so years.
Many people who write dont do anything that they preach..like those who write about peak oil, yet drive cars, fly airplanes etc.. He does at least seem to be taking this serious and is preparing the best he can. So I will give him kudos for that.
He also seemed to have studied quit alot privately about the Mayans and Ancient Egyptians. Yeah he doesn't have a degree nor did Einstein or people like John Anthony West. And yet they both are and were quit knowledgeable on the subjects they wrote about.
I do think he is a bit radical, and his dating may be off..but what he writes about..like solar flares, earth displacement, pole shifts etc will at one time happen..if not Dec 21st maybe 3023 year..and likely happen just as he describes.

[Bollinger]

The formula is very old and established and does actually manage to bring the money in. What is this formula?

First you find a niche. In this case it is a new and unique way of ending the world or predicting some catastrophe that would affect thousands or millions.

Second, ensure that the niche you pick has enough human interest to draw sufficient attention (something like the end of the world should do it). In other words, you must find a way to somehow scream a little bit louder than your competitor scammers. That’s your marketing strategy.

Third, you have to be a very good actor; e.g. able to lie without batting an eye lid and losing composure.

Fourth, you must find the proper medium through which to spread your “prediction” and it must appear to have some token legitimacy on which people can focus and rationalise. For example, appearing on TV should do it. Even if you get torn apart, it doesn’t matter. The very fact that you appeared is often enough. Failing that, write a book and ensure the targeted audience reads it and if you can get it endorsed (seemingly or otherwise) by a well-known figure, all the better.

Fifth, continue to promote your material through whatever means possible and where appropriate, get others also to talk about it. Why not make a YouTube video and even if the comments are unkind, sufficient number of people might see it and even if 1 per mille who come into contact with your material actually part with money that ends up in your pocked, job’s done.

The five steps to easy income. Just sit back and let the money roll in; never mind that you have scared the living daylights out of people. The goal is money. When the date comes and goes and nothing happens, there will be no refunds.

The most convincing of the false prophets out there are those who are so infatuated with their own ideas that they actually believe it themselves.

I myself do not subscribe to anything in the doom and gloom psyche that is in abundance. The sun still has a good 10,000 years of life left in it and provided we don’t destroy ourselves before we grow up and start looking for ways to survive natural disasters (planet-wide I mean) instead of creating more reason to kill each other, it is possible that this world may be stricken by some natural disaster but we may see it come to pass from 200 miles up on giant monitors or even prevent it from happening altogether.

Our survival depends very much on our desire to continue. Greed and elitism will not save anyone.