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    Default Re: Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- From 30 years ago

    Hi Raf,

    This might be outside your line of expertise but how about watching Ron Paul for awhile?

    Before anybody goes kablooey let me quickly add that I've already concluded that the gentleman in this thread's video is a time traveler

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    hello Raf,
    sorry to side track here, but as you are an expert.... what is your take on Benjamin Fulfords body language?

    cheers
    Hey mate,

    Ben Fulford is very enthusiastic about what he´s saying. All his gestures are coherent.

    However, there´s something wrong with his eyes, which, in my opinion, demonstrates characteristics of schizophrenia. Fast blinking sequences, occasional rolling eyes and very tense eyebrows muscles, constant swallowing, and some other signs. This diagnosis, of course, can´t be considered accurate, because it isn´t easy to detect specific mental illness, but I´m sure he´s got a very confused mind.

    In my opinion, he´s saying the truth, however, it doesn´t mean this "truth" is genuine, because he might have been led to believe in such truth by some kind of mental illness, maybe paranoid schizophrenia.

    To conclude, he´s not deliberately lying, but what he´s saying might be the fruits of a very confused mind.

    Cheers,

    Raf.

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    Quote Posted by alienHunter (here)
    Hi Raf,

    This might be outside your line of expertise but how about watching Ron Paul for awhile?

    Before anybody goes kablooey let me quickly add that I've already concluded that the gentleman in this thread's video is a time traveler

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Quote Posted by meat suit (here)
    hello Raf,
    sorry to side track here, but as you are an expert.... what is your take on Benjamin Fulfords body language?

    cheers
    Hey mate,

    Ben Fulford is very enthusiastic about what he´s saying. All his gestures are coherent.

    However, there´s something wrong with his eyes, which, in my opinion, demonstrates characteristics of schizophrenia. Fast blinking sequences, occasional rolling eyes and very tense eyebrows muscles, constant swallowing, and some other signs. This diagnosis, of course, can´t be considered accurate, because it isn´t easy to detect specific mental illness, but I´m sure he´s got a very confused mind.

    In my opinion, he´s saying the truth, however, it doesn´t mean this "truth" is genuine, because he might have been led to believe in such truth by some kind of mental illness, maybe paranoid schizophrenia.

    To conclude, he´s not deliberately lying, but what he´s saying might be the fruits of a very confused mind.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    Hi my friend,

    Well, all I can say about Ron Paul is that, in my opinion, he´s one of the most coherent, sincere and honest politicians I´ve ever seen.

    In terms of body language, I have no reason to say the contrary.

    The United States will be very lucky if it could elect him as president.

    You know, to understand body language you don´t have to study a lot. It´s a natural human ability.

    Anyone, with a little bit of sensibility, can perceive the difference between Ron Paul and his competitors. It´s a huge difference. Just look him in the eyes.

    Cheers,

    Raf.

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    Default Re: Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- From 30 years ago

    ..
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    I probably have too much time on my hands , and some to spend ..
    (and have recently watched all 5 seasons of "the wire" in a week ..).
    So I took on this little piece of "detective-work" for some days now and
    have come up with conclusive evidence to the nature of the OP video:

    This one:

    "Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- From 30 years ago. F#@*ing scary! - English subtitles"


    https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ZAIQJmE75vg
    ( 6min34sec uploaded 7. jan. 2012 by Paranormal )

    I have gathered a lot of knowledge and personal experience with TV and filmproduction
    and have worked with professional late 80s equipment and modern Digital techniques.
    The video looked possible to produce on early eightys highend video or film ,
    but something was out of place in what then would have been a costly production.
    And it could also easily be made today , on relative simple equipment.

    The video spread into many forums quickly , and both there and on Youtube
    the speculations and investigations and opinions flurished fast .
    Loads of people dismissed it as a hoax immediately , but I was not content with their
    arguements or investigations , allthough something did not seem right about the video .
    And with no source , producer , name of the psycich ,or any validating info at all ,
    it (and all like it) has to be viewed as a fiction initialy , and see if more unfolds from there.

    I decided to follow the comments on Utube , and a few forums , and soon there was
    references to different names of the psycich and related info that was dead ends , but
    then this image surfaced , and gave new momentum and clues to the "story" :

    Name:  capture-d-ecran-2012-01-10.jpg
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    That put it in a new perspective , investigationwise , because my photographers eye
    could see strong technical suggestion of photoshopping the psycichs head onto a body
    in the audience , of what seemed to be a show from the 80s.
    But it was a very compressed and diffused image (sic) so I needed the original to be sure.

    The psycich and TVshow montage came from this source:
    http://album.aufeminin.com/album/822...ensonge-0.html
    uploaded by françois berrero on a rather empty profile page on the feminine-forum,
    but in the bottom right corner there was a link to a little chat that gave another clue:
    http://forum.aufeminin.com/forum/f56...t-ce-type.html
    A reference to a mediaresource, Ina, where the picture had been captured or copied from.
    http://www.ina.fr/
    Some hours were spent randomly and fruitlessly searching through their archives.

    At the same time the comments on the subject started mentioning a french TVshow
    called l'heure de verite , and with that keyword I spend the rest of the night on Ina ,
    looking for and at l'heure de verite and other similar shows from 1980 - 85 . No result.
    So after some sleep I thought of searching some more , but soon had to give it a rest
    and decided to wait and see if other information surfaced on the net (or in my brain).

    Last night I checked Youtube again , and someone had dug even deeper in the Ina-chest.
    Here is the comment , with thanks to whoever found it:
    Quote Go to ina.fr and then type in l'heure de verite, its a show with charles pasqua and the show is on 02/07/1986. pause at 40.39 minutes and you will see the same exact picture and you will see it has been photoshopped because this french 'psychic' was NEVER in de audience it was another man.
    MsDennisJay
    So I did , voila , there it was , allthough at 44 minutes and 22 second , more precise, and the show is from 1986 :
    http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societ...pasqua.fr.html

    Name:  44m22s frame heure verite capture.jpg
Views: 128
Size:  20.6 KB .... Name:  capture-d-ecran-2012-cropped.jpg
Views: 381
Size:  59.7 KB

    The original image from the TVshow , captured by some , who manipulated the psycichs head onto it.
    And important point being , that the head in the TVshow-image is not from the 2012-video.
    So whoever made the image had other headshots of him , fitted to this particular scene.
    ( that is the most reasonable conclusion , that leaves little doubt in my mind anyway )

    So I can put that prediction and video to rest as a fictional product , on well founded evidence.
    Supported by a lot of circumstantial ones.

    I will assume that the same group of people are also the producers of the video and behind
    this whole mediacampaign , hoax , sport , marketing-thing or whatever it is.
    Who they are and why they made it is not very important to me , but still up for speculation.
    If it is a campain for a movie or marketingcompetion, some suggested, then we will hear more.
    It is also a good jobaplication within media , film , psy-ops or maybe something usefull.
    Technicaly (and tacticaly) it is very well made , and a clever campaign , allthough reckless .
    ( 111.833 views on Utube, only on this one, as I write this, 5-6 days after it was posted )


    Even if the video was legit and real , his predictions did not have to be .
    Like someone pointed out :
    A bit strange that he predicted all battery cars and wars for oil in the same time ...

    - so, all well then , I guess .
    Sweet dreams of a peaceful future .
    ( or at least a future ..).


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    Default Re: Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- From 30 years ago

    Will put a few more words on the subject here soon, or later .
    For now another image I captured from the Ina archive.

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    A (not so) mystery guest among the audience of the TVshow
    (at around 40 minutes into the video)
    http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societ...pasqua.fr.html

    Quote Charles Pasqua
    L'heure de vérité - 02/07/1986 - 01h35min19s
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    Après l'annonce par François-Henri de VIRIEU des thèmes principaux de l'émission et de quelques questions de téléspectateurs, Charles PASQUA répond aux questions de Alain DUHAMEL sur le manque de popularité du gouvernement CHIRAC, la cohabitation, l'insécurité, le projet de loi sur les immigrés ; de Marcel TRILLAT concernant les contrôles d'identité et le respect des lois, la baisse de la criminalité durant le gouvernement précèdent, les bavures policières et le SAC ; et d'Albert DU ROY à propos du recours au référendum, notamment pour le rétablissement de la peine de mort, le remplacement des hauts fonctionnaires par l'actuel gouvernement, les syndicats, les prélèvements fiscaux et la suppression de l'impôt sur les grandes fortunes, et le libéralisme. Commentaires de Jérôme JAFFRE dans les locaux de la SOFRES sur les résultats des sondages effectués à la fin de l'émission sur" un échantillon représentatif de 250 personnes Durant le générique de fin on reconnaît Nicolas Sarkozy qui quitte le plateau parmi tous les invités
    Production
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    Leridon, Jean Luc
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    Pasqua, Charles ; Duhamel, Alain ; Trillat, Marcel ; Du Roy, Albert
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    Default Re: Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- From 30 years ago

    @noxon.. Great detective work my friend..Now maybe you can solve the Bigfoot thread. real or fake?

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    Default Re: Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- From 30 years ago

    Noxon,

    Thanks! Really nice work! I like your style!

    Well, if people needed evidence to prove this video is a hoax, I guess there´s no doubt anymore.

    Cheers,

    Raf.

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    Be serious, Bigfoot is VERY real. Haven't you ever seen Harry and the Hendersons?

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    @noxon.. Great detective work my friend..Now maybe you can solve the Bigfoot thread. real or fake?
    On a more serious note, I watched a bigfoot documentary last night...it was interesting and as is usually the case there are some very serious scientists and investigators chasing him all over the countryside.

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    Be serious, Bigfoot is VERY real. Haven't you ever seen Harry and the Hendersons?

    Quote Posted by kersley (here)
    @noxon.. Great detective work my friend..Now maybe you can solve the Bigfoot thread. real or fake?
    On a more serious note, I watched a bigfoot documentary last night...it was interesting and as is usually the case there are some very serious scientists and investigators chasing him all over the countryside.
    Do you have a link for that documentary? sounds very interesting..
    Thanks

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    Quote Posted by alienHunter (here)
    Be serious, Bigfoot is VERY real. Haven't you ever seen Harry and the Hendersons?

    Quote Posted by kersley (here)
    @noxon.. Great detective work my friend..Now maybe you can solve the Bigfoot thread. real or fake?
    Harry and the Hendersons - what a great concept for a reality TV show. You should check out Harry's predictions for 2012 btw, they'll blow your mind. Alf's predictions are pretty out there too, but I doubt the one about us all eating cats by the end of 2012 will come true.

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    Default Re: Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- From 30 years ago

    Will Hunting was pretty psychic too.

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    Quote Posted by Slobbe (here)
    Google says Michael Ellegion instead of Elligion.

    http://www.google.nl/search?tbm=isch...l0l70l70l1l1l0

    And it gives a different picture of the man.

    My feel: the camera quality is too good. His mimic seems unreal. The man has his jacket closed. Shiney new glasses on. He suddenly stops the "interview". I would guess it's fake.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    Default Re: Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- From 30 years ago

    It's Fear Porn, use your intuition peeps. Time to move on.
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    Quote Posted by BestLion (here)
    bing
    2012: A Psychic's Prediction
    [I]Are you prepared for the possible catastrophic events of 2012? How would you escape a 700 foot wall of water if you KNEW it was coming?
    A world renowned Psychic has predicted that on December the 21st, 2012 at 11.11am, the world will be changed, forever.


    [/FONT]
    But our calendar is out by approx. 3 years so I've heard witnesses say - if so, then nothing will happen until 21 Dec 2015. So it looks like there will be no salvation and we'll have to save ourselves, or face living in a prison-planet!

    I'm thinking Viking submitted this "1980" video as a practical joke and is laughing at us - the man's hair looks like a bad wig, there's a dog at 1.48, & he says cars running on petrol will be gone in 2000-2005 which hasn't happened!

    Also, in 1980 brand-new home video cameras had imperfections like "scratchy" pictures & they ran very old film like Polaroid Polavision (An instant 8mm film released in 1977 by Polaroid), which had a dark sepia-like tone, not so clear like this one! But his camera is likely to be older anyway, for example it's 2012 & my current camera is a 2006 model running mini DV tapes - I don't have the latest 2012 High Definition hard-disc home video camera!
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