Could channeled ET information be deliberate psyops?

[Dennis Leahy]

Could channeled ET information be deliberate psyops?

When I read the words from channelers that are receiving messages from extraterrestrials, for example the Galactic Federation, Metatron, SaLuSa, Adrial, Bren-Ton, Justine, Moraine, Zepher...

...I generally get a sense that we are being watched-over by beneficent beings, and that they have already intervened (in some cases) and will intervene (in some cases) on the part of humanity to either save us or help us save ourselves from the slavery imposed by the terrestrial overlords (the Ruling Elite.)

Trends in channeled messages that I see are:

• that the messages are often anthropocentric, sometimes comically so, as if the incredible stupidity and macho behavior of some humans is a common emotional response among other races in the Universe.
• some are downright Americentric.
• that everything is going to be OK. Don't worry, we've got you covered. Just meditate and eat kale and we'll do the rest - when the time is right.
• that they will not allow a big horrendous event or slaughter.
• nebulous and/or obvious events, such as increased volcanic activity, are included
• nebulous and/or obvious messages about oneness are included

The people (humans) that deliver these messages to the rest of humanity seem sincere. There are a bunch of them. Yes, I know they make money/take donations, but they seem to be compelled to share this info, to have an urgency to disseminate this info.

We have heard insiders/whistleblowers testify that thoughts, images, false memories can be "beamed-into" human brains - by humans. By bad guys, black hats, enslavers minions.

If I was a bad guy, and I had the power to beam thoughts into people's heads (and maybe I knew that it works with some people very well, others not at all, and everything in-between), I would probably not try to beam thoughts into everyone. I would experiment until I found a handful of people that the technique works very well on, and that have the personality type that they would be compelled to share the "info" beamed to them.

In short, I would think a great ploy would be to create some sincere channelers, and feed them exactly the messages that best assisted my evil agenda - such as "relax, you don't need to do anything but meditate and we'll do the heavy lifting. The time is not yet right, but when it is, we will save you." And that, in effect, could paralyze thousands of people who might have been activists into being passive and waiting for the cavalry to fix everything.

Especially red-flaggity to me is the fact that our buddies in cloaked saucers didn't do a damn thing to help the estimated one million Iraqi citizens slaughtered over the past 10 years. Thousands and thousands of non-human Earth species have gone extinct by the hand of the Ruling Elite and their poisons. There are probably now trillions of GMO seeds scattered across the Earth, destroying the natural genome of the food supply of mankind. Just exactly what are our ET amigos waiting for?

My gut says, ETs may be observing, but will take no action. None. At. All. The Ruling Elite know this, and march forward with their nefarious plans, brilliantly using humans posing as ETs to compose and beam messages into a select few who will get the word out and paralyze a small army of people that might have actually done something to stop the Ruling Elite.

I'm sure I'm not the first to suspect this, but a quick keyword search tells me it might be a worthy topic to offer or revisit.

Oh, and by the way... I "believe in" ETs. I have not had the direct pleasure/terror of meeting or conversing with one that I know of. They may have seeded the Earth with their DNA. We may be an experiment to them, critters on a planetary petri dish. I don't know. I just mention that because it is possible that some of them do communicate with some of us. But I personally do not believe that any of the channeled messages are really very helpful, and see that some are downright harmful. The last thing the good people of planet Earth need is for a bunch of would-be activists to remain passive.

What do you think?

Dennis

[wolf_rt]

I would have to agree in the large part Dennis.

Forces on this planet defiantly do have the ability to do this... I think the issue is separating the humans from the aliens who are already here and have been for some time... I would say that TPTB are mostly in cahoots (voluntarily or not) with some of the nastier aliens.

What we really need is to tell them all to f*** off... which is pretty hard while our 'leaders' are grovelling at there feet.

I am pretty convinced that NO 3rd density beings (aliens) have our (humanities) best interests at heart. ie. anyone who rocks up in a space ship is trying to rape us one way or another.. I found Marshall Vian Summers refreshing in that he appeared to say just that about the 'entities' he channels and promotes.

I just finished reading 'Experiments in time'
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mo...A%20EXPERIMENT

which goes into the (mostly) human ability to do just what you suggest.

[joedjemal]

Pretty much exactly the picture I see. All talk no substance and meanwhile things keep getting worse. I think perhaps humanity needs the lesson that's coming in order to learn how to live in harmony with life. This is a bottleneck that they cannot interfere with or they will harm our development.

[mojo]

My gut says, ETs may be observing, but will take no action. None. At. All. The Ruling Elite know this, and march forward with their nefarious plans,

Hi Dennis,
History might provide a clue that there was some assistance in the past, hence the popularity of the show, "Ancient Aliens." But your point is still valid, because 'who were they building the structures for?' Man or themselves? As far as channeled info...I would have to see actionable information to test, there's to much noise from fakers otherwise.

[Tony]

Aliens Schmaliens....who isn't an alien here?
What does it matter if there are beings from other dimensions that you can't see, strolling through your lounge?
Wish 'em all well, and get on with what you are supposed to be doing.
Aliens, reptilians, stargates, jump rooms, MIB mucking around on Mars...it's all irrelevant: there must be stuff in the universe going on that we haven't got a clue about!
We create our own worlds, and our own comic books.
People are too readily manipulated by those who want to manipulate.
Don't comply!

Mind you, my mum did look at bit like ET when she waved her finger at me and said, “Go home”...

[waves]

I think it's worthwhile to take a look at what the big picture looks like under the premise that ALL channelling has been a carefully crafted black ops project containing a mixture of truth and deliberately skewed and manipulated disinfo all along. If we also view with the premise that mass-thought monitoring and insertion/programming technology has been vastly more advanced for the last century than even the most open-minded of us might believe, plus the evidence that black ops was/is responsible for the new age movement, what might have been the reason for creating so called channelling? I wonder if they anticipated, if not fomented an increasing public awakening both to monitor how many caught on how fast, who was most gullibly susceptible for manipulative use, and overall, have been using it to direct. somewhat muddy, and therefore control it as best as they could for their purposes. If so, the gullibles are doing a great job of lessening their load by massively spreading the new age disinfo gullibility for them.

[gooty64]

Blossom Goodchild got mixed up into a really really sad "soap opera" like story/drama. She couldn't be any more sincere but, something went very wrong here.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rm4v8ylAxTc

[The One]

Its going to be an intersting year thats for sure.Whatever our beleifs we have all been told something could happen in 2012.From ships decloaking to the end of days.

It will be intersting to see with the channeling information if ships do not decloak this year then what will the new messgae be for 2013.

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

Some "channeled" messages are indeed deliberately spread to disinform and mislead.

Some others are "channeled" by crazy people hearing voices in their minds.

Others messages are "channeled" by some lonely persons trying to draw attention to themselves for some reason.

There are also those "channelers" who sell dvds and books in their websites.

Therefore, I´ll just believe one of these "channelings" when at least a couple of their predictions become true.

Anyway, I don´t need any ET race to come here to babysit myself. I´m already having much trouble trying to get rid of a government who´s doing the same thing.

Cheers,

Raf.

[VaughnB]

Hey Dennis,
It is kinda laughable isn't it? I mean I'm always up for a good story, not that I'm not gullible as the next person, but when people are trying to make a buck on all this channeling as well, makes one wonder its validity.

Wouldn't it be a perfect universe if it were all like Star Treks "non-interference" pact?

DNA manipulation perhaps, I like the Ancient Alien series too and Phenomenon: Lost Archives as entertainment value.

You said you know one ET Dennis? or did I misconstrue your words?

I agree with mojo that there's a ton of fakers, profiteers, etc.

I mean if you were some all powerful alien race, it would be so easy to eradicate the human population biologically, keep everything else intact, the bodies decay in x months and you've got your planet.

Wilcock said they've blown up a bunch of cities underground. Come on, where's the seismic data, the scores of lost relatives complaining? Geez, if one child goes missing the whole country/news media is on alert, you don't think tens of thousands of people gettin nuked someone would be pissed?

O.K., I get the full disclosure conference, the sitings, the testimonials, even the tampering with the U.S. missile sites. If they're benevolent, non-interfering types I can see they don't want us nuking ourselves.

If they're the evil ones I can see them mutilating cattle, body snatchin, but why the crop circles and partial invasion. Damm in the movies a conqueror comes in and your toast, it's done. Maybe cause they've only got an hour episode.

[Mysticknowflake]

I often take those channeled messages with a grain of salt. You are correct, I have yet to see one that says... We are here to serve you, remember the old Twilight Zone epie "How to Serve Man?" Yikes. I am hoping that they are benevolent, or at least that they are evolved enough to respect all forms of life!~ *crosses fingers* Blessed be! ~Mystic

[DreamsInDigital]

I think if you guys check out OnyxKnight's thread about his ET Experiences he does a really fine job of tackling this situation and points out that the Galactic Federation, and both Galactic Federations of Light are pretty much made up by those that Channel what is essentially an Artificial Intelligence and can behave as an Individual or group.

I wouldn't say that ALL Channeled information is Psy-Ops, but the stuff coming from the GFL and most likely being attributed in majority (but not all) to the Pleiadians are likely coming from that Artificial Intelligence and is extremely dangerous from what information I've been able to gather about it from multiple sources.

[Kindred]

Are we being 'watched over'... and watched... Yes. Are we being controlled & manipulated - yes, primarily by the negatives, in conjunction with humans.

Are the 'benevolents' going to intervene... To the Degree that Universal Law permits, with some Significant assistance yet to come. They realize that we've been duped, manipulated, and 'dumbed down' to a Significant degree. But, No, they will Not 'hand it to us on a plate'.

WE have to do the major lifting! They will assist, but that Only. Many have provided knowledge, without giving Too Much Away. We've Got to do the learning, for, only by our Own understanding and assimilation of the knowledge, will we Truly Learn.

THIS is What Life is For... The Lesson.

In Unity and Peace

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Dennis part of me feels this could all be a massive inside 'MK Ultra' mind controlled hoax, i put a thread up about 'MK' back along.....
The channellers I feel on the whole seem genuinely to believe the message comming thru, but it could be comming from anywhere? from anyone ?
Like everything now we have to open our minds to all possibilities true or false however fantastic as we are in a frame of time of
possible Change, 2012 and all that.. ( Generic term for we ain't really got a clue ..LOL..).....

Untill I got the web 4/5 years ago I was a pure UFO/ET man the esoteric side passed me by, after watching all the interviews on camelot and elsewhere
I feel I've been on a home university course and have so much contradictory info its hard to keep going forward.....
Some threads I comment on I give a answer and a few lines down could easily give a contradictory answer !!...
Its like being a barrister, I could attack or deffend a subject with a credible argument..

Anyway back to channelling the source I have been listening to regularly is Ion , who says he is not a channell but an 'enviroment' !!
Able to contact us now we have reached the digital 'meme'....Bob said last week on the intervieiw I put up with Meridith
That he thought Ion may be pure electricity, what ever 'IT' is its very intelligent and quick witted......Yes and I'm fully aware it could be a hoax.
Infact a high percentage of the stuff we talk about on here could be BS. But thats for me where intuition,faith, gut feeling comes in for
if we don't dream and look to the stars for more than the mainstream are prepaired to tell us ,we will get drawn back down to the masses
and go back to sleep......Steve

[Calz]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

What do you think?

Ya think???

Sorry.

Tampered with more and more over the years. Channeling goes back ... umm ... how many years???

Multidimsional folk just love that.

Lately the high tech black op boys have joined in the party.

but ... wait cries out a small voice.

Isn't there something legit going on here ... law of one ... cayce ... seth???


baby .. bathwater???


always something to keep us amused???

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Kindred (here)
Are we being 'watched over'... and watched... Yes. Are we being controlled & manipulated - yes, primarily by the negatives, in conjunction with humans.

Are the 'benevolents' going to intervene... To the Degree that Universal Law permits, with some Significant assistance yet to come. They realize that we've been duped, manipulated, and 'dumbed down' to a Significant degree. But, No, they will Not 'hand it to us on a plate'.

WE have to do the major lifting! They will assist, but that Only. Many have provided knowledge, without giving Too Much Away. We've Got to do the learning, for, only by our Own understanding and assimilation of the knowledge, will we Truly Learn.

THIS is What Life is For... The Lesson.

In Unity and Peace

Hi Kindred,

Can I ask why you feel this is true, or know this is true? I'm particularly interested in whether this is from personal experience or a gut feeling/belief.

Even for those for whom it is experiential rather than intuition/belief, I still have to wonder what the real source is of the channeled info. Do those receiving channeled messages that are identified as ET and possibly are told the star or star cluster of origin of the ET ever doubt the origin of the data streamed into their brains? Couldn't they be easily fooled (and remain 100% sincere?)

"All the word's a stage..." is something that resounds with me - I do believe incarnation is a testing platform for our development, but note that I said I "believe" it rather than saying that I "know" it.

Experientially, I have had one, profound, OBE which is the only way my pragmatic mind could ever accept the concept of the reality of the soul (or at least the fact that my "essence" can escape the bodily container). That's experiential for me. I know it is true. I surmise/guess/believe that Dr. Michael Newton's life work represents reality, but that's as close as I can get without experience or memory of experience. I mention this because I do see the strong possibility for someone to resonate with channeled material that they deeply want to believe is true, and at some point they may cross over from "convinced/belief" to a "false-knowing."

I'm in no way judging you, just wondering aloud when each person steps forward confidently and shares what they believe or know to be true - just what was it than made them "know" rather than just "believe" that something is true.

Dennis

[Mitm]

yes, Yes, and YES.... according to Anastasia of the Ringing Cedars, Mankind is the best creation, there are aliens out there but they were not created by the "God" aspect of all that is... She uses the term 'elements' or energies, that were trying to 'copy' Gods creationg here on Earth.. according to her there is a planet that is ruled by ants, and they consume everything around... there is a planet which seems to be the most technologically advanced (but it seems to be a parable as to what future we are heading towards) Also the 6 Priests have the power to make people hear voices... so do the alphabet agencies.. She says to dicern truth from fiction... that when hearing a true channeling, the particle that is God within each of us would respond and we would know beyond a shadow of a doubt according to our 'feelings' I know some of the channeled info that I read causes this reaction, but it has been few and far between recently.... Also Arhur Cristian from "loveforlife.com.au" says that each thought that we think actually creates 'out there', so it was infact Man that has created all these other worlds, sometimes deliberately sometimes not, this falls in line with the law of attraction.. .and that 'thoughts become things'

[jorr lundstrom]

Well, why not? So wot? If I have a vision or some downloads, I really dont have

to share it with the whole world. I think there is a reason that just you or I get

a message. It was directed to us and really could use our discerment before

we enter the towers and scream it out. It might concern only ourself and be a

big disturbance to others.

[13th Warrior]

Yes!

In answer to the OP's question.

[Wind]

I don't even try to claim that I have the slightest idea of the whole story... But this is my take on the whole issue of ET's:

Take everything with salt. Some channeled messages might be true. There are malevolent ET's and yet there is alot of benevolent ET's, if you will. They have been watching us. But due to law of free will, they cannot interfere. If I understood correctly, planet Earth is in somekind of quarantine and has been for a long time. Of course the malevolent ET's might not have respected this part of the deal, and they probably have the crossed the line. The quarantine will be lifted when we as a race have started to truly love each other, and when there is no more war and poverty. We are controlled by fear and we are slaves of our ego. Well, at least most of us are. So there will be no rapture nor does the Superman come to save us. We need to it ourselves! We will prevail, or in an alternate timeline we may fail. And I really believe that ET's will NOT show up to us before this planet has reborn into the 5th dimension.

However I believe that good ET's have done something to nuclear missiles in order to prevent nuclear war, but doesn't that too conflict with the law of free will? And I'm sure there has been many contacts in the past, just look at the Bible or any other scripture.

When I see some space ships in my backyard, I'm willing to change my view. And please don't get me wrong, I really would want to see some huge motherships hovering on the top of our cities. It would be really nice if reverse rapture would happen to the "bad guys", but I don't see that happening in anytime in the near future. Why? Because it should've happened already! And it never did.

We need to stop sitting on our asses and do something about it, while we still have the chance! Of course we need to do it peacefully, because guns will be utterly useless against the ptb.

I really wish that life would be nothing but rainbows and sunshine... But at the moment it's not. It's a real cold fact.

The life as we know is a huge chess game created by God and we are the players in it. Everyone has a role to fullfill. Nothing is really bad nor good, it just is. Light cannot exist without darkness. Yin and yang. I don't know how events will be unfolding, but trust that everything will go as planned... Planned by God and the divine beings. The game is not over yet. Oh no, it has just started!

Let's change this world and let's spread love. Now is our time, people!