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    Greetings, Friends!

    Interesting article you may find thought-provoking.

    (Note the last paragraph -- ring any bells?)


    What If Humans Were Twice as Intelligent?

    by Natalie Wolchover, Life's Little Mysteries

    You might someday be much, much smarter than you are now. That's the hope of neuroscientists focused on understanding the basis of intelligence. They have discovered that the brains of people with high IQs tend to be highly integrated, with neural paths connecting distant brain regions, while less intelligent people's brains build simpler, shorter routes. But no one knows why some brains construct much longer-range connections than others.

    "When the brain mechanisms that underlie intelligence are understood, it is theoretically possible that those mechanisms can be tweaked to increase IQ," said Richard Haier, a neuroscientist and professor emeritus at the University of California, Irvine, who studies intelligence. For the first time in human history, he said, "the concept that intelligence can be increased is reasonable."

    It's a titillating thought but, considering the aphorism "ignorance is bliss," one might wonder: Would it really be better to be brainier? What would life and society be like if we all suddenly became, say, twice as intelligent?

    For simplicity, imagine that instead of our current mean IQ score of 100, humans had an average score of 200. (Experts say this isn't a true "doubling" of intelligence because the IQ scale doesn't start at zero and, furthermore, the test isn't actually designed to yield a score as high as 200 — but we will set aside these qualifications for the purpose of argument.) According to Earl Hunt, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Washington and president of the International Society for Intelligence Research, approximately one person in 10 billion would have an IQ of 200. With a current world population of 7 billion, there may or may not be one such person alive today and, in any case, his or her identity is unknown. However, the 17th-century genius Isaac Newton, discoverer of gravity, calculus and more, is sometimes estimated to have had an IQ of 200 (though he never took an IQ test). So, using him as an archetype, what if we were all a bunch of Newtons? Would the world be much more advanced than it is today?

    Self-actualization

    Haier believes greater intelligence, which he defines as the ability to learn faster and remember more, would be highly advantageous on an individual scale. "Experiencing the world with a higher IQ might be more interesting for most people. They might enjoy reading more, might have a greater depth of appreciation for certain things and more insight into life," he told Life's Little Mysteries.

    Furthermore, IQs of 200 would allow us to pursue activities and careers that most interest us, not just those we're mentally capable of, Haier said. We could master new languages in a few weeks, for example, or become brain surgeons.

    Smarter humans would also be healthier and longer-living, the scientists said, because they'd have a better grasp of what behavior leads to these attributes. "Maintaining a healthy lifestyle, and even more, managing a chronic illness such as diabetes, can be quite cognitively challenging. That's the sort of challenge intelligent people can meet… by definition," Hunt wrote in an email.

    Social skills

    Society would not benefit quite as much as individuals from a mass intelligence boost. Although people like to blame social problems on human ignorance and stupidity the scientists say removing these factors would not lead to the emergence of a harmonious Utopia. Greater intelligence does not come hand-in-hand with a greater ability to cooperate.

    "Intelligence is independent of personality and emotion, so you can have very intelligent people who are also just kind of crazy people," Haier said. "Even if everyone had an IQ of 200, you'd have exactly the same range of personalities as you have now, and because that's a determining factor in how good your society is, you won't necessarily have a better society." Again, consider Isaac Newton: along with his off-the-charts smarts, he was also a notorious misanthrope.

    While petty crime rates would fall in a society of Newtons, Hunt speculated that white-collar crimes, such as banking scams and cover-ups by pharmaceutical companies, might increase and even grow more sophisticated. On the other hand, so would crime-fighting. "The evil corporate villains would be smarter than ever, but so would the government officials who were writing and enforcing the safety regulations! Who would win? Who knows?" he wrote.

    Despite these issues, there's a very good chance that higher-functioning brains would help us invent technologies to fix some of our bigger problems. Haier explained that just as a team of 100 engineers is more likely to come up with a remarkable innovation than a team of 10 engineers (because there's more total brainpower working on the job), having 7 billion "geniuses" on Earth would likely lead to solutions to some currently intractable issues. We might figure out a hyper-efficient way to desalinate saltwater, for example, or tap into a limitless alternative-energy source.

    Because both those advances would produce a greater abundance of resources, they would likely minimize societal conflict — despite some humans being just as nasty as ever.

    Loss of faith

    According to Hunt, there's evidence to suggest that many humans, if significantly smarter, would lose their belief in God. "There is a small tendency for people with high scores to be more liberal in their social attitudes and less likely to accept strong religious beliefs. This makes sense; we can know things by reasoning or we can accept something on faith. If we all became very good reasoners, there would probably be a small shift to preferring reasoned over faith-based explanations of the phenomenon of life," he wrote.

    Some people would undoubtedly continue to accept faith-based cosmologies, however, as there have been many examples in history of highly intelligent and religious people, Hunt noted.

    Looking smart

    Confounding the stereotype of the nerdy brainiac with suspenders and thick glasses, Hunt mentioned one other change that would be expected to occur if we all became smarter. "People would be better looking!" he wrote. A study from Harvard University found a significant correlation between peoples' test scores and how physically attractive other people rate them to be, he explained, and extrapolating the finding up to people with IQs of 200 implies that, in our world of super geniuses, an "average-looking person" would move up to the top 15th percentile on our current scale of looks.

    Even if the extrapolation isn't quite accurate — if the correlation between intelligence and attractiveness breaks down past a certain range —humanity might at least be better at things like exercising and grooming. "I think what would happen is that there would be fewer homely-looking people; especially people who are unattractive because they are slovenly," he explained. "Intelligent people are aware that looking badly is a handicap in getting jobs, being invited to parties, etc."

    One final thought: Even when scientists finally do discover the mechanism for ramping up intelligence, it is highly improbable that everyone would be given an immediate IQ boost. The "haves" would surely benefit from the neuroscience research more than the "have-nots," and this invites a further line of inquiry. As Hunt put it, "Suppose that in some future society, part of the population, say 10 percent, became hugely intelligent, while the rest stayed where we are now or even dropped behind a bit. What would that do to society?"

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    Default Re: What If Humans Were Twice as Intelligent?

    Hi Another Bob,

    This is just a nit really, but I've read estimates of Newton's I.Q. as low as 160. I pretty much refuse to believe that one of the greatest scientists of the past millenium didn't have an I.Q. at least in the neighborhood of 200. The social challenges for the profoundly gifted are well...profound.
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    the IQ test if a pretty poor gauge of intelligence in my opinion, personally i was able yo 'boost my IQ' by over 20 points, just by 'practising' a few times.

    Quote consider Isaac Newton: along with his off-the-charts smarts, he was also a notorious misanthrope.
    Lol... it could be argued that this was because of his intelligence.
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    Twice as intelligent would also mean twice as everything imo - all the negatives as well as the positives. It would be great if there could be a filter, although of course if it was possible to choose what traits to filter, there'd still be the same amount of negatives and positives - probably

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    I max out iq tests but it's not much fun. You just see the world a bit more clearly and find it hard to find people who get what you're saying. There's usually a price too, most people with very high iqs tend to find social situations hard to deal with. I can mimic social behaviour but i don't enjoy it. There's nothing that special about it though, yes a high iq person learns faster but a bright arsehole is still an arsehole. Your heart's more important.
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    Twice as Intelligent to me would mean twice as dangerous unless the intelligence was heart centred.
    When you express from a fearful heart in the now moment, You create a fearful future.
    When you express from a loving heart in the now moment, You create a loving future.

    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future.

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    The funny thing about 'IQ' is that people seem to swallow the idea that such an intangible set of concepts and abstract
    skills can all be 'measured' in a neat little test and given some kind of score. I recall doing some pretty intense research on the entire
    history of intelligence testing, and it was quite an 'eye-opener'. If you follow the idea that the powers that be (were) have some sneaky mechanisms
    to promote their paradigms, then what better than the Education system, and IQ 'testing' to sort out the useful, from the difficult types?
    The Eugenics movement had a lot to do with intelligence quotient equations, the rationalist schools of psychology (Rats 'n Stats). We as questioning people should not be
    so accepting of this IQ mythology. People like Isaac Newton would be highly skeptical of the whole deal-with very good reason.

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    GalaxyHorse,

    all true...
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    As well as trying to define intelligence into a set of abstract questions, there are supposedly several areas of intelligence left out. Such as, how people can fit into their environment; how they relate to other people; how they handle their emotions; how they learn new things (reading, practical, visual etc.). None of these seem to be taken into account.

    Plus, look at the Animal kingdom. If you were to put one of those tests in front of a dolphin, they would get zero. But we know they are very intelligent creatures. I know this argument is a little childish, but i'm just trying to get a point across. When I once heard someone remark that the average intelligence of a dog to be 40 approx. I asked how it was so. One fumbled answer later left me as clueless as before.

    I agree the standard IQ test ties in with our particular brand of education system, and therefore somewhat redundant.
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    If humans were twice as intelligent they would be twice as malicious and half as kind.

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    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    One final thought: Even when scientists finally do discover the mechanism for ramping up intelligence, it is highly improbable that everyone would be given an immediate IQ boost. The "haves" would surely benefit from the neuroscience research more than the "have-nots," and this invites a further line of inquiry. As Hunt put it, "Suppose that in some future society, part of the population, say 10 percent, became hugely intelligent, while the rest stayed where we are now or even dropped behind a bit. What would that do to society?"
    Greetings, Friends!

    Thank you all for your comments! I'm wondering if anybody remembers the Sean Connery movie "Zardoz", which I took to be an early film metaphor for the Illuminati program. The paragraph above hints at just such a development, imo -- an intellectually advanced elite ruling over a dumbed down populace.


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    Yeah, it was 10 years before I knew what the hell the movie was about. For the longest time I kept thinking it was just a cool tribute to the Wizard of Oz.
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    If you follow David Sereda's research he mentions that the sun is emitting a new element since 2006 that is causing DNA activation and making children more intelligent.

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    there are hundreds of people alive today with IQ's in the 200 range.

    For example, the gentleman who looked at one of my 'products' and attempted to decipher it's fundamentals with respect to the physics.. he did not manage to get there...in the immediate sense.

    This man has a registered and tested IQ of 196. He works as a 'maximum level' problem solver for a $XXB high technology corporation.

    I would have to explain to him exactly how my products work. Ie, what it means on the baseline physics level of functionality. Then I would probably have to explain to him the fundamentals of wave-particle science as I know them.... for his current understandings are failing him.

    That does not mean that my skillset is beyond his, though. We all have areas where our knowledge is a bit weak.

    What I'm trying to say is that newton with the IQ of 200 is not such a big deal. The proper application of mediation, eating and exercise can and will increase the neural connectivity of the given person...IF they are determined enough..and thus their intelligence can and will increase proportionally.

    The other way to do it..is to do what some people have said about what the 'elite' do to their children.

    Trauma. Applied Trauma. The earlier in life that it is applied, the better.

    This causes the mind to branch off and grow at the earliest stages possible.

    The problem is then likely to be...highly intelligent...but...twisted people. Ouch.
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    Quote Posted by joedjemal (here)
    I max out iq tests but it's not much fun. You just see the world a bit more clearly and find it hard to find people who get what you're saying. There's usually a price too, most people with very high iqs tend to find social situations hard to deal with. I can mimic social behavior but i don't enjoy it. There's nothing that special about it though, yes a high iq person learns faster but a bright arsehole is still an arsehole. Your heart's more important.

    I know exactly what you mean.
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    Self hypnosis can be used to slowly remove the veil within, if you desire to do so. this is my point bout meditation, food, and exercise.

    If one does that, their IQ score would likely increase by, oh...30-60%, on average. As a minimum, I'm suspecting.

    Dissolve the ego and you can have that intellect ...which is blocked off. If the ego is still the ascendant in the given person, then they are blocked from the true depths of their own intelligence.

    Emotions and ego do indeed cloud things by that much.
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    Carmody, when you say ego, what specifically do you mean? I ask this in all sincerity, knowing full well that it may be seen as a foolish question.

    I must admit, I actually have no clue what the ego is--apart from a very narrow Freudian understanding of the term.

    Is ego a false boundary? An unnecessary limitation of the self? Is it separate from a healthy, if still illusory boundary separating 'I/Me' from others?

    The idea of dissolving these boundaries is scary when I'm being totally honest--but that may be in part because I am conflating ego with a core 'self.' (And I don't want whatever my core essence is... to dissolve.)

    When the Ego is gone, what fills its place? What maintains the boundaries of self?

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    Self hypnosis can be used to slowly remove the veil within, if you desire to do so. this is my point bout meditation, food, and exercise.

    If one does that, their IQ score would likely increase by, oh...30-60%, on average. As a minimum, I'm suspecting.

    Dissolve the ego and you can have that intellect ...which is blocked off. If the ego is still the ascendant in the given person, then they are blocked from the true depths of their own intelligence.

    Emotions and ego do indeed cloud things by that much.
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    Quote Posted by wolf_rt (here)
    the IQ test if a pretty poor gauge of intelligence in my opinion, personally i was able yo 'boost my IQ' by over 20 points, just by 'practising' a few times.

    Quote consider Isaac Newton: along with his off-the-charts smarts, he was also a notorious misanthrope.
    Lol... it could be argued that this was because of his intelligence.
    Newton didn't/doesn't have a corner on that. Many people feel that way. I had a total mental breakdown, when I found out what people could be, and were like to other people, to their environment, to all life on the planet, and to themselves. Found it very hard to communicate with others for several years after that. I had to force myself to overcome the feeling of mistrust and often times -out and out discust.

    It had/ and sometimes still has, everything to do with absolutely wasting the chance God gives us to be something better then what we are. I couldn't even trust myself, you see. Misanthropy is a part of the human conundrum. IMO misanthropy = blind inertia. Inteligent people are still human, aren't they.
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    I have to say i think that if all people had an IQ at this type of level there are several things that I think would happen. 1 obviously there would be an explosion of new technologies in the world. 2 most people that I know who have a vedry high IQ realize that even though they can not prove something that does not mean it is not true. They may try to find a way to prove it. But then I know that what I "KNOW" is true does not have to be proven. 3 there would ave to be a new way of teaching. We know in our own society that if a person is highly intelligent and is placed with people of average IQ level. That person simple gets bored with everthing and in turn finds something that will not bore them. I will not say my personal IQ. I will say that growing up I was a "gifted child" here in the US. I was so bored with school that I just stopped participating in school and would teach myself instead. In school I never went, studied, or did homework. However I still graduated from high school with honors. I see that the children today are on this same path and the system must learn how to work with these children on thier level. The way children with high IQ are taught today does not work. The solution that the system has come up with is to drug these children to slow them down. My school wanted to drug me and asked permission from my parents who replied with a profound "NO!!!". This is what parents need to do today. DO NOT drug your kids because you or the system can not keep up with them!!!!!!!
    as i look back through the glowing embers that are the bridges in my life
    i get a fleating glimps of how green it is on the otherside
    and i know i can forge the river
    but the water is deep
    the current swift
    the river is wide
    and i
    i am terrified of drownding

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    Default Re: What If Humans Were Twice as Intelligent?

    I'd rather have wisdom, than intelligence!!

    Like joedjemal said, "A Smart Arsehole, is still an Arsehole"

    Love that one......Act with WISDOM...... Intelligence will follow!

    HUGS.......Godiam

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