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    Dove doing a great job here,
    a good one to show teenage daughters,
    ....and sons.
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    Good stuff Astrid. I really liked that. Thank You

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    Well you have to admit, she looks much better at the end, than she did in the beginning.
    Sometimes it is nice to consider the apple rather than to dwell on core.

    I fail to see the brainwashing.
    Think of the mess we would be in, if we did not use toilet paper.

    Are men brainwashed for shaving their face, and wearing a suit?

    I think there are more important things to dwell on.

    Like thinking about something positive.

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    Quote Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
    Well you have to admit, she looks much better at the end, than she did in the beginning.
    Sometimes it is nice to consider the apple rather than to dwell on core.

    I fail to see the brainwashing.
    Think of the mess we would be in, if we did not use toilet paper.

    Are men brainwashed for shaving their face, and wearing a suit?

    I think there are more important things to dwell on.

    Like thinking about something positive.
    Hello Gary,
    I think you are right, but drop by drop 'they' catchy monkey!

    Tony

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    Gary, young girls with eating disorders and low self esteem,
    are born out of the medias portrayal of the "ideal woman"
    - that woman isn't even real.
    And men then expect woman to look this this,
    it's unhealthy as it's not based on reality.

    It's not empowering, positive, nor truthful.
    Not important? Ask someone with a teenage
    daughter with anorexia and you might start to
    understand why this is a BIG problem.
    Images are powerful things, they influence us on
    so many different levels, whether you realize it or not.

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    Quote Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
    Well you have to admit, she looks much better at the end, than she did in the beginning.
    Sometimes it is nice to consider the apple rather than to dwell on core.

    I fail to see the brainwashing.
    Think of the mess we would be in, if we did not use toilet paper.

    Are men brainwashed for shaving their face, and wearing a suit?

    I think there are more important things to dwell on.

    Like thinking about something positive.
    Young women and girls are being forced upon a false idea of beauty and behaviour that is artificial, and de-humanizes tbh.
    They develop all kinds of psychotic behaviour from this, like Anorexia and Bulimia, but the effect is more subtle in most individuals.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorexia_nervosa

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulimia_nervosa
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    Ha thats kinda humorous vid there. With Photoshop you dont even need a human donor model. Its just vanity. Guys do it to. Its been going on forever almost. The punk era now there were some interestind doos! I remember Wendy Owilliams with her mohawk chainsawing a TV in half. But I digress.

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    Quote Posted by astrid (here)
    Gary, young girls with eating disorders and low self esteem,
    are born out of the medias portrayal of the "ideal woman"
    - that woman isn't even real.
    And men then expect woman to look this this,
    it's unhealthy as it's not based on reality.

    It's not empowering, positive, nor truthful.
    Not important? Ask someone with a teenage
    daughter with anorexia and you might start to
    understand why this is a BIG problem.
    Images are powerful things, they influence us on
    so many different levels, whether you realize it or not.[COLOR="red"]

    Think of the bigger question here.....so where do you draw the line?
    If you set a hundred people in a room, do you think you will get a consensus of where to draw the line?

    Are you prepared to dictate to photographers, advertisers etc in the industry what they can or can't do with images they take with their cameras?

    What next, when women wear make up, or try and improve their appearance will other women be encouraged to mock or harass them?
    Think of how if a woman tries to wear a fur coat in this current environment she often will get mocked and harassed by animal rights activist.

    A couple years ago, in my community, there was a group of people that were trying to bring out a bi-law that would make it illegal for anyone watering their lawn to have water wet the public side walk.
    The people were complaining that they had an issue with having to walk in the summer time across wet pavement.

    Do you catch my drift..... Is this really an issue that is worth beating the war drum over.....

    Or are we following some illogical behavior of bitching about anything and everything we can find to complain about ....rather or not it makes sense.

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    Quote Posted by Hatemachines (here)

    Young women and girls are being forced upon a false idea of beauty and behaviour that is artificial and de-humanizes tbh.
    They develop all kinds of psychotic behaviour from this like Anorexia and Bulimia but the effect is more subtle in most individuals.
    Is there something I am missing?

    Do the young girls have a GUN to their heads?
    Is there some person holding a knife to their throats?

    No one is forcing anyone to do anything.

    Folks are just so caught up into being control freaks and of course....we gotta have Drama like Jerry Springer...

    that now we have to have a crises over advertisers in the fashion industry.

    Do the beer Commercials force you to run out and buy their brand of beer?
    Does Mac Donald's put a gun to your head and force you to buy a hamburger?

    No
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    Yes this is an issue worth beating many drums over,
    without empowerment people are enslaved.
    The media manipulation of images is designed to
    make us feel crap about ourselves so we run out
    and BUY STUFF, that's meant to make how we feel
    on the inside better, which of course doesn't nothing
    but lines their pockets.
    True beauty is within, not without
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    Quote Posted by astrid (here)
    Yes this is an issue worth beating many drums over,
    without empowerment people are enslaved.
    The media manipulation of images is designed to
    make us feel crap about ourselves so we run out
    and BUY STUFF, that's meant to make how we feel
    on the inside better, which of course doesn't nothing
    but lines their pockets.
    True beauty is within, not without
    I respect your views.
    But how we feel is our own choice, and we as individuals are responsible for our feelings.
    No one can make us feel a certain way, we choose to feel that way.

    If you are proposing that we need to make laws to regulate how photographers or advertising can display images of people, are you not following the trap that we have to make more laws to take away our rights so that we can feel safer.?

    In my mind, this thinking is very seriosly flawed.
    Why don't you just make a law that women have to wear this on their heads in public or be killed.

    That way, the women that are pretty, and thin will not force the less pretty or fat girls to have low self esteem



    I'm not being trivial, Like I said, where do you draw the line on LIBERTY
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    I can see both sides of this argument, but i have to agree with Gary that more laws would be the most negative thing that could possibly come out of this debate.

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    I personally don't agree with any changes that fool other people, via false advertising, into believing something that isn't genetically true. I wouldn't consider it fair or honest if I walked around with shoe inserts that made me appear 6'5 in effort to improve my chances for procreation.

    I hope that people will one day wake up to the silliness of superficialities and take notice to what they are actually doing to themselves for the sake of appearances.
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    Quote Posted by G.A (here)
    I personally don't agree with any changes that fool other people, via false advertising, into believing something that isn't genetically true. I wouldn't consider it fair or honest if I walked around with shoe inserts that made me appear 6'5 in effort to improve my chances for procreation.

    I hope that people will one day wake up to the silliness of superficialities and take notice to what they are actually doing to themselves for the sake of appearances.
    Best to really think about that statement.

    Heart defects, along with a host of other defects are part of genetically true.
    Would that apply to false teeth?

    Sex changes, birth defects, scars, shaving, curling ones hair, eye make-up, hair dye?


    It's easy to pound the podium, but where does one draw the line
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    We have a thanks button. A boo button would come in handy here. Not for the OP though.

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    Quote Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
    It's easy to pound the podium, but where does one draw the line

    The lies have got to stop!
    At every level.
    And it begins with you and me.

    These adverts deserve an applaus, but where does one get to see them?
    On the biggest mind-numbing drug ever. The television.
    I don´t know whether to be happy that people are being asked to reconsider their priorities or disgusted at the obvious "in your face advert" on how the viewing public is being manipulated.




    Quote Posted by astrid (here)
    Yes this is an issue worth beating many drums over,
    without empowerment people are enslaved.
    The media manipulation of images is designed to
    make us feel crap about ourselves so we run out
    and BUY STUFF, that's meant to make how we feel
    on the inside better, which of course doesn't nothing
    but lines their pockets.
    True beauty is within, not without
    ^This.
    Thank you for your post astrid. ♥
    The heart knows a hundred thousand ways to speak.
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    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    We have a thanks button. A boo button would come in handy here. Not for the OP though.
    Sorry I have never been much of a sheep that follows the flock.
    Most continue to graze on the same old sod because that's what everyone else is
    doing.

    It seems to bother you that I have views that differ from yours. I find that curious.

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    The line should be drawn at personal choice, which is why I used the term "personally" in my opening sentence in attempt to convey that. I believe in and agree with your point on laws being the wrong way to go about it.

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    Quote Posted by Ineffable Hitchhiker (here)

    The lies have got to stop!
    At every level.
    And it begins with you and me.
    So where do we start with truth. Are you going to tell the Children that there is no such thing as Santa Clause, Jesus, God?
    Or would it be easier for you to just blame the rest of the world and be a hypocrite as you enjoy the fruits off the forbidden tree?

    Most don't have a clue what truth is, because they have never been exposed to it.
    We can't handle the truth.
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    Gary no disrespect here, but sometimes I think you write yourself in as the protaganist of a story, ah er I mean thread in this case, and you know what, every story ah er thread could use a good protaganist now and again.
    It stimulates folks to foster their opinion and verbalize it.
    So, wether or not you're a natural born protaganist, or that is what you are going for, I'm guessing it's for the greater good.

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