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    Default Obama's Gay Past Being Hidden By Killing Ex-Lovers

    Sounds somewhat like a tabloid story, but nonetheless:


    Obama's Gay Past Being Hidden By Killing Ex-Lovers

    Mother of Murdered Obama Gay Lover Speaks Up
    Submitted by SadInAmerica on Mon, 01/16/2012 - 8:09pm.

    In late May, (2010) Wash. DC-based investigative journalist Wayne Madsen had a bombshell revelation about Obama’s membership in a Chicago gay club, Man’s Country. ~ Wayne Madsen


    Donald Young

    Madsen also reported on Obama’s sexual relationships with other men, including named D.C. politicians and Donald Young, the openly-gay choir-director of the church in Chicago of which Obama was a member for some 20 years — Jeremy Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ black liberation theology. Obama’s relationship with Young was confirmed by Larry Sinclair, who claims to have had two sex-cocaine trysts with Obama.


    Larry Bland

    There were two other openly gay men in Wright’s church: Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. In late 2007, as Obama began his ascent to be the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee, in a span of 1½ months, all three men “conveniently” died:

    Bland was murdered execution-style on November 17, 2007;
    Young was murdered execution-style on December 24, 2007;
    Spencer reportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV on December 26, 2007. (Death certificates of Bland and Young, HERE.)


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    Now, Young’s elderly mother is speaking out about her suspicions that her son was murdered to protect Obama’s reputation and assure his political future as President. ~ Dr. Eowyn

    White House ramps up damage control over Obama Chicago gay history
    An exclusive Wayne Madsen Report – July 19, 2010





    The story about President Barack Obama’s bi-sexual past will not go away. Now, in an exclusive interview with The Globe, Norma Jean Young, the 76-year old mother of the late Trinity United Church of Christ choir director Donald Young, has spoken out and declared that persons trying to protect Obama murdered her son at the height of the 2007 Democratic presidential primary to protect Obama from embarrassing revelations about his homosexual relationship with her son.

    Donald Young’s bullet-ridden body was found in his Chicago apartment on December 23, 2007, in what appeared to be an assassination-style slaying.

    Norma Jean Young revealed to The Globe that her son Donald, who was openly gay, was a “close friend” of Obama. Mrs. Young also believes the Chicago Police Department has not placed a high priority on finding the killers of her son.

    Mrs. Young, who is, herself a former employee of the Chicago Police Department, told The Globe that, “There is more to the story,” adding, “I do believe they are shielding somebody or protecting someone.”

    The Globe’s revelations are consistent with information obtained by WMR during a May investigation conducted in Chicago. On May 24, WMR reported:

    “President Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bath house in uptown Chicago, according to informed sources in Chicago’s gay community, as well as veteran political sources in the city.”


    The report added,

    “WMR spoke to several well-placed sources in Chicago who reported that Jeremiah Wright, the pastor of Obama’s former church of 20 years, Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC) on Chicago’s south side, ran what was essentially a matchmaking service for gay married black professional members of the church, including lawyers and businessmen, particularly those with children.

    The matchmaking club was called the ‘Down Low Club’ but references to it over the phone and email simply referred to the group with the code phrase ‘DLC.’

    The ruse, according to our sources, was to make anyone who was eavesdropping on the communications [FBI wiretaps in the Rod Blagojevich case likely contain such references] believe that the references were to the Democratic Leadership Council, also known as the DLC . . .

    Among the members of the gay ‘DLC’ were Obama and TUCC’s choir director, Donald Young, an openly gay man who reportedly had a sexual relationship with Obama. Two other gay members of the church were Larry Bland and Nate Spencer.

    Young and Bland were brutally murdered, execution style, in late 2007. Bland was murdered on November 17, 2007 and Young on December 24, 2007. The latter was killed by multiple gunshot wounds. Spencer reportedly died on December 26, 2007, official cause of death: ‘septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV.’”

    Larry Sinclair, the gay man who claimed to have had two sexual encounters with Obama in Chicago in 1999, wrote a book, “Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder,” in which he states that Obama was linked to Young’s murder.

    Sinclair wrote that he was in contact with Young shortly before his murder and Young revealed his relationship with Obama. At the time of his revelations about Obama at a National Press Club news conference, WMR doubted the veracity of Sinclair’s story due to the absence of corroborating evidence coupled with a bizarre news conference.

    However, since that time, WMR has received corroboration from a number of sources in a number of locations, including Chicago, Alabama, Georgia, and Washington, DC. WMR has received information that various competing camps, including the Hillary Clinton and John McCain campaigns, attempted to co-opt Sinclair and his revelations for their own political purposes.

    Sinclair, it should be noted, has not deviated from his original story or charges against Obama.


    On June 19, 2008, WMR reported:

    “WhiteHouse.com held a news conference following Sinclair’s at which a video of Sinclair’s polygraph was to be shown. After experiencing technical difficulties with the video presentation, Parisi abruptly canceled the news conference and took no questions.”

    The aborted news conference was as bizarre as Sinclair’s. Sinclair was arrested by Washington, DC police following his news conference based on a warrant from Delaware issued by Vice President candidate Joseph Biden’s son, Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden. The Delaware charges against Sinclair were later dropped.

    Sinclair’s book is now the subject of a defamation lawsuit [Daniel Parisi, et al v. Lawrence W. Sinclair a/k/a "Larry Sinclair," et al] brought by Dan Parisi, the proprietor of the website, Whitehouse.com, who is mentioned in Sinclair’s book with regard to his involvement in polygraphs administered to Sinclair after he made his allegations against Obama public during the 2008 presidential campaign.

    The lawsuit is being handled by the politically powerful Patton & Boggs law firm, the same firm that represented George W. Bush’s top political adviser Karl Rove in the Valerie Plame Wilson/CIA leak, and has been filed against Sinclair, his publishing company, and distributors, including Barnes and Noble and Amazon.com in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. Sinclair is currently a resident of Florida.

    The lawsuit against Sinclair has been assigned to Judge Richard Leon, the Republican deputy chief minority counsel on the House Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran, aka, the Iran-contra scandal.

    From 1988 to 1989, he served as Deputy Assistant Attorney General and from 1992 to 1993 was the Republican chief minority counsel on the House Foreign Affairs Committee’s October Surprise Task Force investigating the 1980 Reagan-Bush campaign’s secret dealings with Iran to ensure the defeat of President Jimmy Carter.

    Leon was nominated for the federal bench by President George W. Bush on September 10, 2001. Leon’s involvement in so many high-level cover-ups of White House misconduct makes him an illogical choice to hear a case involving serious allegations against President Obama.


    Note:

    Blagojevich’s defense in his federal corruption trial is slated to begin today in Chicago. Judge James Zagel has denied the defense’s request for all the government’s wiretaps to be played.

    The tapes, as previously reported by WMR, contain some earthy references to Obama’s and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel’s homosexual habits.

    Sinclair has told WMR that he believes the Obama White House is trying to have his book withdrawn from circulation to avoid any further embarrassments about Obama’s homosexual past and the possible involvement of his top lieutenants in Young’s murder.

    The Globe reported in May 2008 that a top Chicago private detective said he believed Young was “rubbed out” because of his relationship with Obama. Sinclair has echoed the private eye’s beliefs about Young and Obama. The Globe reports that before his death, Young was planning to flee to Africa to teach.

    The information was provided to The Globe by Young’s mother, who also now fears for her life and plans to leave her Peoria, Illinois home for a secret location. Mrs. Young said the Chicago police have warned her that her life is in danger.

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    Default Re: Obama's Gay Past Being Hidden By Killing Ex-Lovers

    Would not suprise me if it's true. The research was done by Wayne Madsen, who has a very good track record. I have no problem with Obama banging guys, but killing them is another thing, this should indeed be exposed. Sadly there are worse things happening though, like Obama having signed the NDAA.

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    The Globe...really? I'm sorry, this is nothing but right wing HATE propaganda - which has come to a fever pitch in this country...this story has been around for quite awhile. People lie and make up stories when it comes to trashing the President or anyone else they feel contempt for, 95% of the press is owned by right wing neocon's hell bent on destroying Obama so corporations and their bankster Republicon's can finish the job of destroying this country.

    People need to wake up and follow the money to the top of all these publications they get their so called news from to see who the messenger is, you'll find neoconservatives own the message...a message which has been nothing but hate, lies and deception since Obama took office. Most Obama haters have been completely propagandized by right wing media because they don't know or understand how media operates. I'm really disappointed to see PA members stoop this low on the hate scale.

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    Quote Posted by ascendingstarseed (here)
    The Globe...really? I'm sorry, this is nothing but right wing HATE propaganda - which has come to a fever pitch in this country...this story has been around for quite awhile. People lie and make up stories when it comes to trashing the President or anyone else they feel contempt for, 95% of the press is owned by right wing neocon's hell bent on destroying Obama so corporations and their bankster Republicon's can finish the job of destroying this country.

    People need to wake up and follow the money to the top of all these publications they get their so called news from to see who the messenger is, you'll find neoconservatives own the message...a message which has been nothing but hate, lies and deception since Obama took office. Most Obama haters have been completely propagandized by right wing media because they don't know or understand how media operates. I'm really disappointed to see PA members stoop this low on the hate scale.
    How is this hate? The OP gives us an article to read and we can decide if it's true or not. Does that make it hate ? I think not.....

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    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    Quote Posted by ascendingstarseed (here)
    The Globe...really? I'm sorry, this is nothing but right wing HATE propaganda - which has come to a fever pitch in this country...this story has been around for quite awhile. People lie and make up stories when it comes to trashing the President or anyone else they feel contempt for, 95% of the press is owned by right wing neocon's hell bent on destroying Obama so corporations and their bankster Republicon's can finish the job of destroying this country.

    People need to wake up and follow the money to the top of all these publications they get their so called news from to see who the messenger is, you'll find neoconservatives own the message...a message which has been nothing but hate, lies and deception since Obama took office. Most Obama haters have been completely propagandized by right wing media because they don't know or understand how media operates. I'm really disappointed to see PA members stoop this low on the hate scale.
    How is this hate? The OP gives us an article to read and we can decide if it's true or not. Does that make it hate ? I think not.....

    i would tend to agree with that.

    Information is stirile until with percieve it through our preconditions and differing experiences through the reality we individually deal with everyday.

    In saying that its not that unbelievible at all,presidents have murdered there way to the white house before and more than we think,clinton for instance left a very suspicous trail of dead ex colleauges during his ascendency and then during his presidency.

    http://rcjustice.tripod.com/pres.html

    Now he TRUELY has the touch of death

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    Default Re: Obama's Gay Past Being Hidden By Killing Ex-Lovers

    Forget the Globe, I have been reading Madsen for many years. Ex NSA, lots of good sources and investigative work.

    However, he also said stuff like Bush and Condi had a relationship, etc. , and none of what he reported in that admin seem to ever have much affect on things.

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    Default Re: Obama's Gay Past Being Hidden By Killing Ex-Lovers

    Sounds like BO fits in really well at the Bohemian Grove.

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    Default Re: Obama's Gay Past Being Hidden By Killing Ex-Lovers

    I don't really understand why all that would be necessary...he's a liberal, it's ok to be gay.
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    Quote Posted by ascendingstarseed (here)
    The Globe...really? I'm sorry, this is nothing but right wing HATE propaganda - which has come to a fever pitch in this country...this story has been around for quite awhile. People lie and make up stories when it comes to trashing the President or anyone else they feel contempt for, 95% of the press is owned by right wing neocon's hell bent on destroying Obama so corporations and their bankster Republicon's can finish the job of destroying this country.

    People need to wake up and follow the money to the top of all these publications they get their so called news from to see who the messenger is, you'll find neoconservatives own the message...a message which has been nothing but hate, lies and deception since Obama took office. Most Obama haters have been completely propagandized by right wing media because they don't know or understand how media operates. I'm really disappointed to see PA members stoop this low on the hate scale.
    There is nothing hateful about this article. But i'm not really interested in it either. Obama has already committed enough crimes that are on record and in the public domain. We have enough evidence to impeach him with what hasn't been covered up. I hope impeachment hearing begin as soon as possible!

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    Default Re: Obama's Gay Past Being Hidden By Killing Ex-Lovers

    hahahaha wouldn't it be awesome if he was gay ? 1st black president and gay to boot ! lol !!! middle america would sh!t bricks lol . awesome ! I mean , you know, aside from killing his ex lover's an' all !! However, personally I don't believe it for a second, but hey, if it's true all I got to say is welcome to the family guurl ! lol !

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    Default Re: Obama's Gay Past Being Hidden By Killing Ex-Lovers

    It looks to me as if a thread involving claims that Obama is gay and murderous has been derailed by claims that Ron Paul is racist. The poster doing the derailing of course denies any culpability, claiming to be just a researcher putting up information. Allegations that said poster frequently attacks Ron Paul on this forum have been only been met with a rhetorical question in response: is that allegation based on research? My research finds those allegations have merit. In addition to asking members not to insult other members (not the major concern here) we also ask members not to engage in trollish behavior.

    We will be splitting this thread into two - one for the original topic involving Obama, and the other for the distracting topic involving Ron Paul.
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    Hello,

    The off topic postings on Ron Paul, have been moved to this thread:

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    It was the Enquirer that broke the story about John Edwards having his affair/child w/another woman. It's kind of sad when the tabloids do the reporting that our so-called media won't do.

    Not everyone voted for President Obama. It's not hateful to have a different opinion. Having a different opinion is called "free speech" (I'd like to think that Americans understand what free speech is!); whereas disagreeing with a liberal is not "HATE speech". You don't have to like what I say, but it's not illegal to disagree with President Obama w/o it turning into a commentary about how I hate the poor and black people. (There's that word again....hate) Really? It's just really odd to me how speech seems to only be free when the speaker is a liberal. It almost seems to be an obsession to say the word "hate" when anyone disagrees with anything liberal. I don't hate. I disagree. There's a huge difference.

    Hate speech is actually hateful - like the N-word. The majority of people are equally ticked off about the way the US is going.

    Obama's accuser, Larry Sinclair, has stuff posted on Rense all the time. Also, another blog the "Ulsterman Report" has some interesting insight about President Obama as well. If it was just a right-wing thing, then why are there so many sources out there? Why are the dead bodies stacking up?

    People sincerely and earnestly disagree with President Obama just like people sincerely and earnest disagreed with President GWB. Most of the problem is there's no interest in discussion, only in dialogue that consists of "You're wrong. I'm right and that makes you a HATER!" Really?

    I was born post-civil rights, so it pounded into my head not to judge people by the color of their skin. I just have to wonder how the same people, who think that it's okay to say hateful things about me due to political differences, are going to behave when the ET's finally show up and they don't look like us (oh no!) and they don't act like us (shocking!) and have different ideas (uh-oh)? I just don't see it being all love and light from some people.

    "Hate" is a powerful word that has powerful energy. We shouldn't go around using that word lightly.

    Am I the only one who got defensive when I read the word "HATE" in all capital letters? If we can't be careful with our words, then how can we expect others to be?
    How can we expect to "wake people up" if we tell them we "hate" them because we happen to politically disagree?

    Don't get me wrong, I struggle with these issues. But I wonder if people just don't care how other people read and receive our posts? Don't we consciously want to try to speak to those who disagree with us in love, not hate (even when it gets really, really difficult and you just want to watch the other person's head blow up? Yes, I was still working on it.)?

    The bottom line is that I love having this refuge and it really bothers me when I see the negativity that I'm trying to get away from here on PA. I get that things aren't perfect, but I'm really sick of the word HATE...in all caps and all the energy that it brings with it.

    We need to remember that you may have a different name than I do, but we are one. Left/right, white/black really doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Love/hate - these do matter. How we treat people matters.

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    Quote Posted by David Trd1 (here)
    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    Quote Posted by ascendingstarseed (here)
    The Globe...really? I'm sorry, this is nothing but right wing HATE propaganda - which has come to a fever pitch in this country...this story has been around for quite awhile. People lie and make up stories when it comes to trashing the President or anyone else they feel contempt for, 95% of the press is owned by right wing neocon's hell bent on destroying Obama so corporations and their bankster Republicon's can finish the job of destroying this country.

    People need to wake up and follow the money to the top of all these publications they get their so called news from to see who the messenger is, you'll find neoconservatives own the message...a message which has been nothing but hate, lies and deception since Obama took office. Most Obama haters have been completely propagandized by right wing media because they don't know or understand how media operates. I'm really disappointed to see PA members stoop this low on the hate scale.
    How is this hate? The OP gives us an article to read and we can decide if it's true or not. Does that make it hate ? I think not.....

    i would tend to agree with that.

    Information is stirile until with percieve it through our preconditions and differing experiences through the reality we individually deal with everyday.

    In saying that its not that unbelievible at all,presidents have murdered there way to the white house before and more than we think,clinton for instance left a very suspicous trail of dead ex colleauges during his ascendency and then during his presidency.

    http://rcjustice.tripod.com/pres.html

    Now he TRUELY has the touch of death
    Do you believe everything you read? I don't have time to teach people what the term Yellow Journalism means, I learned it 20 yrs ago as a Broadcast Journalism major. Look it up! Learn about where you're getting your news from, who owns the publications and what their political affiliations are. You'll learn virtually 100% of these news publication's are owned by the same people who are on the opposite side of the Democratic party. Ever since Obama came into office it has been one attack after the next all filled with hate, aimed at destroying him, his presidency and ultimately America. The media has done nothing but blame Obama for all the problems of the previous administration, nor do reporters call out all the lies the Republican candidates constantly spew. There is no objectivity left in mass media, it has an agenda.

    People have kept feeding into the hate PROPAGANDA so long they can't even tell the difference between that and real news anymore, which there is little of. And maybe that's the problem you've become so accustomed to believing entertainment style Fox news, geared at getting ratings and placating advertisers vs telling the facts as they are Walter Cronkite style. Like the frog in the boiling pot it's been so long since the masses have experienced hard news they now accept Yellow Journalism as an believable format. Listen to Randi Rhodes for awhile, she's great at showing examples of the lies being spewed out on a daily basis by so called news outlets, owned by the right wing....but representing themselves as progressive in nature.

    If you're one of the many who have been propagandized and indoctrinated into the Hate Obama crowd you probably won't understand this message and are beyond reasoning with...

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    I really dont understand who really cares if he bi, gay straight, or androgenous. I really dont understand the reason for it, personally. however i can see why this would be hushed up as it would effect how most people view him. even though it shouldnt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If people are not willing to look beyond something so insignificant as sexuality then they are destined for blindness!!!!!
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    I do not care If BO is gay, But if he is offing his lovers This could be a problem .lol Seriously, On a daily basis B.O. orders drone strikes
    that kill countless people, Like most Presidents he doesn't hesitate using kill orders.

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    The Globe...really? I'm sorry, this is nothing but right wing HATE propaganda - which has come to a fever pitch in this country...this story has been around for quite awhile. People lie and make up stories when it comes to trashing the President or anyone else they feel contempt for, 95% of the press is owned by right wing neocon's hell bent on destroying Obama so corporations and their bankster Republicon's can finish the job of destroying this country.

    People need to wake up and follow the money to the top of all these publications they get their so called news from to see who the messenger is, you'll find neoconservatives own the message...a message which has been nothing but hate, lies and deception since Obama took office. Most Obama haters have been completely propagandized by right wing media because they don't know or understand how media operates. I'm really disappointed to see PA members stoop this low on the hate scale.
    How is this hate? The OP gives us an article to read and we can decide if it's true or not. Does that make it hate ? I think not.....

    i would tend to agree with that.

    Information is stirile until with percieve it through our preconditions and differing experiences through the reality we individually deal with everyday.

    In saying that its not that unbelievible at all,presidents have murdered there way to the white house before and more than we think,clinton for instance left a very suspicous trail of dead ex colleauges during his ascendency and then during his presidency.

    http://rcjustice.tripod.com/pres.html

    Now he TRUELY has the touch of death
    Do you believe everything you read? I don't have time to teach people what the term Yellow Journalism means, I learned it 20 yrs ago as a Broadcast Journalism major. Look it up! Learn about where you're getting your news from, who owns the publications and what their political affiliations are. You'll learn virtually 100% of these news publication's are owned by the same people who are on the opposite side of the Democratic party. Ever since Obama came into office it has been one attack after the next all filled with hate, aimed at destroying him, his presidency and ultimately America. The media has done nothing but blame Obama for all the problems of the previous administration, nor do reporters call out all the lies the Republican candidates constantly spew. There is no objectivity left in mass media, it has an agenda.

    People have kept feeding into the hate PROPAGANDA so long they can't even tell the difference between that and real news anymore, which there is little of. And maybe that's the problem you've become so accustomed to believing entertainment style Fox news, geared at getting ratings and placating advertisers vs telling the facts as they are Walter Cronkite style. Like the frog in the boiling pot it's been so long since the masses have experienced hard news they now accept Yellow Journalism as an believable format. Listen to Randi Rhodes for awhile, she's great at showing examples of the lies being spewed out on a daily basis by so called news outlets, owned by the right wing....but representing themselves as progressive in nature.

    If you're one of the many who have been propagandized and indoctrinated into the Hate Obama crowd you probably won't understand this message and are beyond reasoning with...
    First of all i think you may have misjudged where my point of view is coming from.
    I dont love or hate him per say,he is human as am i so i have compassion for him on that level.I believe he has made some bad choices whille in office but i also understand the backround to the power paradigm being played out here to a large extent.I would not consider myself truely right or left as i dont believe it is a true spectrum for developed debate and serves more as a divide stratagey by the power elite.

    Also.No i practice discerment daily with everything i mull over,i was merely pointing out the possibity to it being possible,which still stands.
    I have no inclination to push a point of view either way on anybody.It just seems to me not that unbelievible,power currupts,and many will do unthinkable things to get it.Including murder,its as ancient as rome or sumer itself,but in saying i dont endorse it as truth all the same.

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    I really dont understand who really cares if he bi, gay straight, or androgenous. I really dont understand the reason for it, personally. however i can see why this would be hushed up as it would effect how most people view him. even though it shouldnt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If people are not willing to look beyond something so insignificant as sexuality then they are destined for blindness!!!!!
    I completely agree with that.
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    Seeing The Ulsterman Report here in this thread jogged my memory. It's true that source always trashed Obama, my recollection is that it skewed towards supporting Hillary in ways that made it appear to me to be coming from her camp, with intention of getting him ousted so she might take power in next election. That's my recollection anyways - I am not going back and revisit their reports.

    That said, I have resonated that alot of the dirt Wayne Madsen reported about Bush during his presidency was true, though ineffective, and I would not be surprised if his reports about Obama and Rahm's gay activities in Chicago are also true. (I voted for Obama)

    If you google Madsen, Obama, and CIA, he makes a pretty-well researched case that Obama's family had numerous CIA ties, or at least ties to businesses with CIA ties.

    His history is quite murky - and has gaps. I feel no need to defend or support him anymore.

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Seeing The Ulsterman Report here in this thread jogged my memory. It's true that source always trashed Obama, my recollection is that it skewed towards supporting Hillary in ways that made it appear to me to be coming from her camp, with intention of getting him ousted so she might take power in next election. That's my recollection anyways - I am not going back and revisit their reports.

    That said, I have resonated that alot of the dirt Wayne Madsen reported about Bush during his presidency was true, though ineffective, and I would not be surprised if his reports about Obama and Rahm's gay activities in Chicago are also true. (I voted for Obama)

    If you google Madsen, Obama, and CIA, he makes a pretty-well researched case that Obama's family had numerous CIA ties, or at least ties to businesses with CIA ties.

    His history is quite murky - and has gaps. I feel no need to defend or support him anymore.

    Its all in here..........

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ar..._biography.pdf
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