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    Default The wait for December 21, 2012

    What should we do before the December 21st? The day when the timelines will merge. The day when the cosmic Superwave known as Nexus might arrive. Are all of us just going to wait for that magic date when we are supposedly going to ascend? Are we going to continue living our lives doing nothing? Is meditation enough? Virtually anything can happen in a year. The clock is ticking, 337 days left.

    What should we do? Because we need to do something!

    Please do share your thoughts and suggestions.


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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    Well, I think awakening or no awakening we'll still have to look after the basics. To quote an old saying "before enlightenment chop wood carry water, after enlightenment chop wood carry water".

    I can see the failure of the systems of the elite, this nwo is a pipe dream that goes against fundamental reality. We're going to have to pick up the pieces when they're gone. Get gardening, then at least you'll have the seeds to get your neighbours started next year.
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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    I think we should just live our lives according to our intuitions, beliefs, morals, values, etc. We should support whatever causes we believe in, if we feel so inclined. And as always, we should hope for the best and prepare for the worst.


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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    Quote Posted by G.A (here)
    I think we should just live our lives according to our intuitions, beliefs, morals, values, etc. We should support whatever causes we believe in, if we feel so inclined. And as always, we should hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

    I wonder if he had a smoke after?

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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    Good start StarSeed :-)

    I am pretty much at a loss myself, as i imagine many are.
    I recently lost my job, and though i could find work as a house painter, which is my main trade, i do not seem to be able to bring myself to do so.
    Indeed i seem much more inclined to sit on the computer, smoking cigarettes, posting on Avalon, listening to interviews and researching 'tinfoil woo-woo'.

    The only thing I'm really sure about, is that the world will be a VERY different place this time next year.
    The idea of the 'converging time lines' fits very neatly into my thoughts on 2012

    I think TPTB have basically missed there window for any sort of controlled depopulation.
    I do feel there is still a chance that many may die due to 'natural' disasters / starvation caused by collapse / large CME's ect.

    so i'm still thinking that some sort of 'prepping' is in order, even if it is only mental.

    the big challenge appears to be to raise the level of our consciousness, to avoid a 'rude shock' in December.

    I don't agree with the theory that 'nothing will happen' and we will gradually increase our awareness/vibration over the next 50 years or so... just doesn't sit right with me.
    So something big will happen in my opinion, and i feel it is likely to be on or around Dec 21st.

    I expect to see 'alien Disclosure' in the next few months.
    I'm also starting to think TPTB will attempt to keep the world economies ticking along until December (when it wont matter any more). After all they have managed so far, and who would have thought?

    I don't think you could go wrong planting some vegetables :-)
    Detoxing the body as much as possible.
    mulling over spiritual matters.
    Finding forgiveness for yourself and others.
    Showing love to your friends and family (and strangers, and yourself)... NOT 'showering them with love and light' - that's a crock.
    Developing an objective world view, as in the A Call to Look Deeply into Our Collective Perception thread and video.


    Hmm that's about all i've got at the moment.

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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    imo being the best me is going to be the best for the collective

    so this year im taking my power back that i gave away to the world long ago. im just gonna enjoy and make the best out of every moment while doing my best to remain attached to nothing. no more worrying about money, material things, worrying how things are gonna be tomorrow, etc. sitting here worrying about whats going to happen isnt going to change anything

    i actually feel more like myself than ever now that im making this change. im quitting my job, getting back into my passions - finally following my heart

    cheers

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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    Here at the end of the Second Epoch, it's my understanding that a lot of us will be leaving, and a few will be staying on into the next round of earthly illusion. In either case, it will be our choice as souls, whether we stay or go.

    One of my favorite Old Masters, Bassui, wrote the following letter to one of his disciples who was about to die, but of course we are all about to die, regardless of whether we survive the coming years or not, and so I offer it now for your consideration, as a way to occupy yourself while waiting:

    "The essence of your mind is not born, so it will never die. It is not an existence, which is perishable. It is not an emptiness, which is a mere void. It has neither color nor form. It enjoys no pleasures and suffers no pains. You may not know exactly who is suffering, but question yourself: 'What is the essence of this mind?' Think only of this. You will need no more. Covet nothing. Your end, which is endless, is as a snowflake dissolving in the pure air."



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    I shall do as my signature says.
    Before enlightenment, chop wood; carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood; carry water. -Zen Proverb

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    Quote I think we should just live our lives according to our intuitions, beliefs, morals, values, etc. We should support whatever causes we believe in, if we feel so inclined. And as always, we should hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
    One thing to quote 'end of the world..via a phony rapture out of a twisted Bible, then to view what the Mayan calendar says..these are night and day. The Bible is about as accurate as a blind man shooting an arrow. The Mayans were so accurate on the calendar they used the Pleiades as a reference..even today we only use our sun and that is not near as accurate.
    2012 should not be taken as a bible thumpin 'end of the world' those nutjobs have really messed up real data and real possibilities. Now people write off anything 'end of the world' as a rapture type stuff. These people had no religion, were making no money on their calendar and yet said 2012 Dec 21 will be an event. Unlike the Christian charlatans who want money.
    I was born in 1975, I heard about 12 end of the world predictions..most via Christians..whom I didnt even sweat one drop.And the Y2K bug..which I didnt even think about..This 2012 is the most compelling of all I have witnessed in my life and study.
    Thus we can't compare some stupid religion 'prediction' to this. This is an extremely accurate calendar that ends..the day we enter the cosmic center of our galaxy.

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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    Let's see, we have another end date idea and a whole new age movement that is about as cult like and a religion as any other and we have authors and researchers using each other's shoddy work to back up their own work and creating drama drama drama as to appear just as much charletans and nutjobs as anyone else throwing stones from glass houses! Gee, are they making money off of people's perceived fears trumped up by movies of massive devastation and pseudo science? Are they pumping out their books faster than a long tailed cat tries to run out of a room full of rocking chairs? It sure looks like one huge drama fest to me of either FEAR or ASCENSION! Folks, there has been a long held belief that to ascend you have to die. Now we have this idea of some blessed event that will magically transform our DNA and we will wake up as new enlightened beings.

    We have people saying to just focus on positive and we will be the light. You cannot grow into light if you first do not embrace your darkness and find the balance both provide. The Age of Aquarius is nothing more than more New Age, New World Order plans to transform the world into their total control via some promises of the new man and new beliefs we are all one and we will magically walk in love and kindness toward one another. Look at your world RIGHT NOW. Do you perceive nearly 7 billion people on the verge of coming into some magical alignment in a year?

    Oh, there will be changes alright. Some of the NWO will be happy to just get rid (kill off) those who won't go along with the new program. There will be upheavel under their plans, massive catastrophes, disasters, wars, and economic ruin and then we will be magically saved at the last minute and sip hot toddies on a beach somewhere for the rest of our lives.

    I really think some people are deluding themselves.

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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    What I do not do:

    overexert myself where my help is not appreciated & wait for others to change something
    - participate in the rat race
    - being idle waiting for something
    - overwork for the good cause, 'forcing' change in others

    What I do:

    live the kind of lifestyle I see as healthy, harmonious, wholesome, creative and productive
    - support alternative projects/communities: farming, building, the whole process of creating and maintaining, coming together learning and teaching
    - enjoying life, for beauty is always everywhere
    - meditate, balance, harmonize
    - generally 'see a need and offer help'
    - be flexible when tasks and opportunities present themselves

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    Quote Gee, are they making money off of people's perceived fears trumped up by movies of massive devastation and pseudo science? Are they pumping out their books faster than a long tailed cat tries to run out of a room full of rocking chairs?
    Id bet 90% of people who think 2012 will be an event..have no spent 1 dime to a 2012 book-video etc..I have not spent 1 cent! If I read a book I got it online or sent to me via email PDF. I also never gave 10% of my income to some cult or doomer. unlike religion demands or cults like Billy Meier who demands 8%.
    I think I'm a logical man who can view all sides and make my own conclusions. I dont give a penny to 2012 books etc. And I am hardly in a cult cause I read up on ALL sides of this..and think indeed 2012 will be an event.
    As for me personally, I cut down 50% on work..and am enjoying life more. Spending time smelling the flowers, spending time with my 2 daughters. Just enjoying life now. We have this moment to live. Tomorrow indeed may never come..Enjoy the day..And if tomorrow comes..then thanks the creator 'who ever she is" (I feel the creator is feminine BTW due to the cosmos and how it works)
    2012..I hope nothing! I really do I have 2 young daughters that I want them to experience life..and I am only 36 myself..but I feel uneasy about it. Esp as we roll into Dec...

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    Quote Posted by wolf_rt (here)
    I recently lost my job, and though i could find work as a house painter, which is my main trade, i do not seem to be able to bring myself to do so.
    Indeed i seem much more inclined to sit on the computer, smoking cigarettes, posting on Avalon, listening to interviews and researching 'tinfoil woo-woo'.
    Now as you lost your job (same here) you're free to do something else, maybe something more productive. I'm actually thankful, my boss was a psychopath and I found a community in the making, that really needs my help, well actually they found me, but that's not the point.

    There are many intentional communities world wide listed on www.workaway.info and on www.helpx.net - You can look at all the hosts for free and the price to register and contact them is reasonable. Another venue is of course www.wwoof.org, but there you register for only one country at a time and its focus is more strongly on the farming aspect.

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    The only reason I am concerned about 2012 is because of all the focus the NWO crowd has put on it. They have the ability to turn countries upside down in a heartbeat politically, economically, socially, and environmentally. If they believe now is the time for the massive Chaos portion of the drama of Order out of Chaos then buckle up because apart from astroids and space ie the sun's activity they have a lot of ability to really mess with the world! Much of the new age movement's attitudes and beliefs can be traced right back to new world order backed groups that came into power in the early 1900's.

    Their words have been repackaged, glitzed up with nice new book covers and name changes. It's easy enough to prove this as I have on another thread. The new age movement and age of aquarius ideals are nothing more than worldwide ideals offered under tried and failed systems of socialism and communism. They sounded nice, but no country has been able to achieve them due to the cruelty and greed within man's heart. There are always some more equal than others. The really sad thing is I see the same attitudes within all groups no matter their so called alignment to walk in love towards one another. They are intolerant of those who disagree with them, they are vicous in word and sometimes deeds towards those who view things differently, and as far as the new age believers foundational authors whose works have been repackaged, their end game is to just get rid of those who refuse to go along with the "NEW" system. I have not noticed present day Christianity continuing to support killing off of those who disagree with it, though at one time those with intent to use it for power and control certainly also used the killing method to gain control. Maybe that's just part of the plan since the Elites set up Christianity for their next phase and the killing time was needed to get the people in line for the plan to work to it's next stage which we are now seeing come to fruition.

    Thus, for the next phase which includes a One world Religion which for them is the Aquarian New Age religion and an equal One World Government to work hand in hand we have the current chaos coming which several major religions and a large part of the New Age Movement both believe must happen. Yes, millions want this calamity. They believe it will bring about their own utopia's but for different reasons. Maybe we do create this reality, and for that reason we are getting on all sides just what we deserve.

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    [QUOTE]The only reason I am concerned about 2012 is because of all the focus the NWO crowd has put on it. [QUOTE]
    NWO aint pushed 2012 on us..on contrary! They wanted to HIDE it from us. Most who told us of 2012 are alternative types who have investigated the claims. 2012 is not a NWO hoax..but more like a NWO exposes.
    NWO if anything are the ones discrediting it! Saying it is a non event..and making videos like Penn and Teller to make fun of it "i posted that video here" While at the same time they are building bunkers in Denver...."nuke bombs I guess they want us to believe..yet the cold war ended 20 years ago+ ..If that was the case then why not redo the old bunkers they destroyed post cold war? Read up on all ..see all sides and you will be shocked that they are not building bunkers for nuke war but survival.
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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    thanks chiquetet, i did give some serious consideration to 'wwoofing' however i do have a partner who i love, who has a mortgage, ect...(though im sure she wouldn't miss my 'contribution' to the household..lol)
    I would like to take a more active role in my local community, such as it is... but haven't really found a place to start... (i planted some veggies though :-))

    I have worked for and voluanteered for a australian charity 'Lifeline' but i found there contribution to society as a whole to be basically nil...

    Getting Local i feel is really important though.

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Let's see, we have another end date idea and a whole new age movement that is about as cult like and a religion as any other and we have authors and researchers using each other's shoddy work to back up their own work and creating drama drama drama as to appear just as much charletans and nutjobs as anyone else throwing stones from glass houses! Gee, are they making money off of people's perceived fears trumped up by movies of massive devastation and pseudo science? Are they pumping out their books faster than a long tailed cat tries to run out of a room full of rocking chairs? It sure looks like one huge drama fest to me of either FEAR or ASCENSION! Folks, there has been a long held belief that to ascend you have to die. Now we have this idea of some blessed event that will magically transform our DNA and we will wake up as new enlightened beings.

    We have people saying to just focus on positive and we will be
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    light. You cannot grow into light if you first do not embrace your darkness and find the balance both provide. The Age of Aquarius is nothing more than more New Age, New World Order plans to transform the world into their total control via some promises of the new man and new beliefs we are all one and we will magically walk in love and kindness toward one another. Look at your world RIGHT NOW. Do you perceive nearly 7 billion people on the verge of coming into some magical alignment in a year?

    Oh, there will be changes alright. Some of the NWO will be happy to just get rid (kill off) those who won't go along with the new program. There will be upheavel under their plans, massive catastrophes, disasters, wars, and economic ruin and then we will be magically saved at the last minute and sip hot toddies on a beach somewhere for the rest of our lives.

    I really think some people are deluding themselves.

    It's nice to see a differant veiw for once thank you, I belive the war may begin between us and them fully on this date maybe later, I don't see them going down without a fight.
    "And if one man could stand tall, There would be hope for us all, Somewhere in the spirit of man!"

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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    We don't need a mayan calendar to see all the curves are going vertical right now, coincidence? Unlikely, something profound is happening whatever form it takes. A lot of people are aware of it.

    If it wasn't for what I see happening in the real world I would dismiss 2012 out of hand.

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    Default Re: The wait for December 21, 2012

    how about this:
    this planet is a farm, we are being farmed, farming is seasonal, this season ends 21.12.2012
    its all change when the season is over.
    but nothing is over until its over...

    stay alert and be ready for changes

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