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    Default Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    I really want to know your guys thoughts on this, it was brought up in the Bill Woods Interview last night and has been discussed for years, decades. Most of us already know aliens exist and are very much real, have been deeply involved with the earth since the dawn of time, etc. And, there are many of us out there that even have already made contact.

    UK has in their Ministry of Defense site, their archives of UFO/ET incidents, US has their files , well most on either WikiLeaks or NSA.GOV. France,Spain and Germany collectively did the COMETA Report, and China has put out about ET's living among us like they have for well since ever, but in a modern light. Many South American countries even are taking a very passive stance on UFO's / ET's, been purported that University of Chili is even offering UFO/ Exopolitic Courses.

    Does it really matter to you personally if Official Government Disclosure in your home country is given?

    Do you think Official Government Disclosure will happen in your life time in your Country?

    If It hasn't already, and / or do you think the ET's / ED's will massively disclose themselves first?

    When/If The Government Of your home country discloses open/publicly, how do you think they will do it? Will It Be a joint effort between ET's and Your Government?

    With ET's/ED's already showing themselves in fleets and the sky, etc. If they were to take "matters into their own hands", and publicly/openly disclose themselves to the masses. In what way could/should they do this to be most effective?

    Why do you think the focus has been so much on Greys, Reptilians, Insectoids and other non-human looking ET's, when it's quite probable and likely that the Human looking Races are more prevalent than non-human races. At least when it comes to those having some connection or contact with Earth/Terra and the Terran/Human race here on this planet?
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    Default Re: Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    Good questions. I really don't care if our government discloses to the masses the reality of ets. To me it's a personal issue and not something to be foisted on "sleeping still" people. Hadn't thought of that till you posed the question!

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    Default Re: Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    Thanks, thats the idea. I want individuals personal thoughts on those questions.
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    I have wondered before if it is possible to become 'desensitized' to disclosure. A lot of what we see in pop-culture regarding aliens tends to be an invasion scenario. We have seen characters come to grips with the shocking revelations, and regroup to take back Earth for humanity. So to an extent, would people actually be surprised when they find themselves in this situation? Look at zombies. There are many survival guides online, and many other sources dedicated to ensuring you're prepared for a zombie pandemic.

    Personally, I feel people would be a lot more open to ET contact rather than reanimation of the dead.

    DID, I'm not sure if the ETs would (or should) take a blatantly active role in the disclosure. They have remained semi-anonymous for so long, I can't imagine they have been waiting for the perfect moment to reveal themselves on a large, undeniable scale. It seems a bit dramatic maybe? Simply from the fact that they are more advanced technologically and spiritually might suggest that they can see a lot further ahead into the mire of possibility to discern the most helpful and constructive form of disclosure. I can only speculate as to what that might be, but then again we are supposedly in quite a unique position here.

    People are ready, or at least they think they are. Is this enough? Have we reached critical mass in terms of awakening? I suspect the shift will happen regardless of a time frame or specific date, as Inelia and others say.

    I believe that a form of disclosure has been happening for quite some time. Either through people awakening, to new souls coming and infiltrating the perpetual negativity, to guidance by suggestion, or of instigating awareness of choice, we have evolved. This has occurred from the inside, sort of like a catalyst. Take our own bodies for example. There are many creams and lotions for women, aimed at hydrating and nourishing to reduce the signs of aging. But if you don't drink water, you won't be hydrated, so the creams have to work with the internal source of water to heal the skin.

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    I used to think Full Disclosure was essential, but more and more, I think it's not really that important.
    All the lies are still despicable though.
    I would love to know what would happen if we did have Full Disclosure now, though, just out of curiosity.
    That would make a SciFi series worth watching, if it was done properly!

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    I don't need an official government or document to confirm what I already know to be true. As far as I'm concerned they can just stay out of the way....just continue to fight will each other and let the awake sane minds venture out into the cosmos bringing the light of forgotten knowledge to planet earth.... let the golden age begin...hoowaa
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    Default Re: Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    Full disclosure right now would be sort of like admiting to setting the house on fire when every room is ashes but the one your standing in...

    the main thing it would do (IMO) would be to open the eyes to the hypocrites of the world to the fact that governments can & do lie.... TO THEM! just like they lie to themselfs and others (ego baby... thats just how it goes..) this unearned confidence in external power sources scares me & needs to be shaken...

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    Default Re: Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    Wouldn't make any difference to me, I believe it is totally naive to think we (Humans) are the only sentient lifeforms in this Galaxy, let alone the Universe (or Multiverse, other Dimensions etc.)

    The goverments have been telling lies for to long now for them to even consider changing the story now, so I cannot see Disclosure coming through any official channel!

    As for the Aliens themselves forcing Disclosure, I don't see that happening either, we are here on this backwater planet, to discover the universal truth for ourselves, and any interference from outside sources would place that plan in jeopardy!

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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    what ever happened to "government fearing its people" ?
    True, the roles reversed some time ago. They no longer serve the people, for the people serve them.

    Ghostrider, that is a really positive attitude to have. Where attention goes, energy flows and all that. Just letting the officials have it out between themselves when things really start to crumble. They choose not to choose I suppose.
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    Great idea for a thread Dreams. Interesting responses. I think some type of official disclosure would be good because I think it would cause a huge awakening. I liked your response TargeT!!!

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    IMO....Disclosure is happening in drips and drabs. Bob Deane mentions this in his perspectives. I just wish it would move along a little quicker now. God even my Mother believes we aren't alone and shes 82. Lol
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I used to think Full Disclosure was essential, but more and more, I think it's not really that important.
    All the lies are still despicable though.
    I would love to know what would happen if we did have Full Disclosure now, though, just out of curiosity.
    That would make a SciFi series worth watching, if it was done properly!
    Yes onawah, there are a few persons in my family I'd love to watch the faces of if a ship landed in the back yard!!

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    Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    My reply would be yes.
    I'm with Target on this one. The lie is so big that whilst it would accelerate some peoples awakening, I personally think it would impede most, thereby holding mass consciousness back.

    The wave is swelling and so, eventually, disclosure will be inevitable.
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    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    IMO....Disclosure is happening in drips and drabs. Bob Deane mentions this in his perspectives. I just wish it would move along a little quicker now. God even my Mother believes we aren't alone and shes 82. Lol
    I wonder if humanities constant impatientness is due to our already knowing the out come.... & all of this stuff in between (while probably our true purpose, learning, growth, self examination) seems extranious in the light of that knowledge.

    are we ever satisfied with the pace of events? haha...

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    Default Re: Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    No need to question disclosure. (when/how) Those that know don't question and those that don't know don't care. After the shift all will know intuitively and welcome the fresh air of truth. It all still depends on us and what we will for ourselves in the now and future. Et's / ED's are not the issue, HONESTY and PEACE without EGO is. If there is disclosure it makes no difference to me how it's done! IMHO

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    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    I really want to know your guys thoughts on this, it was brought up in the Bill Woods Interview last night and has been discussed for years, decades. Most of us already know aliens exist and are very much real, have been deeply involved with the earth since the dawn of time, etc. And, there are many of us out there that even have already made contact.

    UK has in their Ministry of Defense site, their archives of UFO/ET incidents, US has their files , well most on either WikiLeaks or NSA.GOV. France,Spain and Germany collectively did the COMETA Report, and China has put out about ET's living among us like they have for well since ever, but in a modern light. Many South American countries even are taking a very passive stance on UFO's / ET's, been purported that University of Chili is even offering UFO/ Exopolitic Courses.

    Does it really matter to you personally if Official Government Disclosure in your home country is given?

    Do you think Official Government Disclosure will happen in your life time in your Country?

    If It hasn't already, and / or do you think the ET's / ED's will massively disclose themselves first?

    When/If The Government Of your home country discloses open/publicly, how do you think they will do it? Will It Be a joint effort between ET's and Your Government?

    With ET's/ED's already showing themselves in fleets and the sky, etc. If they were to take "matters into their own hands", and publicly/openly disclose themselves to the masses. In what way could/should they do this to be most effective?

    Why do you think the focus has been so much on Greys, Reptilians, Insectoids and other non-human looking ET's, when it's quite probable and likely that the Human looking Races are more prevalent than non-human races. At least when it comes to those having some connection or contact with Earth/Terra and the Terran/Human race here on this planet?
    Hello DreamsInDigital. Thanks for this thread.

    I would like to see disclosure very fast. Not in 2 years but know. My thinking is then the TPTW or the service to self have had their deal long enough, this must change for the best. I just think then this has been going on for so long then we should not ask less than the truth and complete story and there is no such thing then the complete story is too much for us, that is for no won but ourselves to decide that if we can take it or not.

    Keep up the great work dear friend's.

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    Default Re: Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    full disclosure would make all the difference IMO and thats why it is urgently required.
    Its like when a bunch of unattended kids are wrecking the house for hours and then mums car drives up to the front door.
    we all know how quickly the kids try to tidy up, put the budgy/hamster back in the cage and get their excuses ready for when the door opens..

    I cant think of a better way to instantly stop wars, murder, pollution and anything else thats going wrong here....

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    Default Re: Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    Yes IMHO. Those of us who have had no personal experience of UFO sightings or ET contact may "know" that the universe is very likely teeming with life but having what we know confirmed would be of huge significance. I had a dream a couple of nights ago on this theme in which disclosure happened - I think by the US - and I felt a great sense of relief.

    Most races must go through a period of not knowing whether they are alone in the universe but perhaps suspecting that they are not. If, as I believe, the universe is indeed teeming with life then at some point there must be contact with ETs. The various ET races who visit us sure as hell know they are not the only ones and there must be some contact between races, maybe co-operation e.g. between nordics and greys according to some accounts. So contact must happen at some point and when it does it may be the most defining moment in our history. People will then be able to see our evolution and history in a whole new light and if the truth has been hidden the human race has a right to know and to know who is responsible.

    Since the vast majority of people now accept the reality of extraterrestrial life it seems to me that the time is now. We've had the drip feed. How long is that supposed to go on. I can see there are major political problems so whether disclosure will happen is another matter - 50:50 or probably less.

    If disclosure paves the way for ET contact the possibilties this opens up for us (hopefully) are unimaginable and - another thing - we need those suppressed technologies now so we can quit the oil business and clean this place up. I for one am ready to join the intergalactic space corps - if they'll have me - of course I may need a new body. Maybe one of those crystaline ones we've been promised (hope they don't break easily). I jest of course though I am serious about wanting to see other worlds and civilizations - who wouldn't.

    I don't know about the timelines and 21.12.2012. My feeling is that it will probably pass and nothing much will happen except that some of the theories will be busted.
    However the ET presence is real and as I say at some point it has to be openly acknowledged and various consequences will hopefully flow from that leading I hope to actual contact. However, I don't say this will be easy because we imagine ETs to be similar to ourselves but I think it was Whitley Streiber who said that in his abductee experiences there were no common reference points, so I'd accept that there is need for caution.

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    Quote Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?
    You bet it would! Think of the implication of telling the world that they have alien races that are millions of years old! Think of what that would do with monotheistic religions of the world? It would utterly and instantly destroy them! I just talked on the phone to a fundy Christian and she thinks the world is only 6K yrs old. And I tried to tell her that GIZA alone is MUCH older then that..but she did not agree, buys into the mainstream BS that all these monuments are less then 6,000 yrs old.
    If they released this info it would just reconstruct all of human ideas, history, religion etc..
    thus releasing this info would have major consequences.
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    Default Re: Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

    My take on this is that disclosure would make a huge difference, if only to wake people up from the extremely limited and narrow view many have of the world we live in and beyond.

    Personally I'm finding it hard to believe we'll get any official out right disclosure from governments (but I live in hope) unless they're forced to in some way that is undeniable.

    I think it's more likely that we'll get to a point where collectively we mature (soon I hope!) as a species to the point where disclosure isn't even required anymore, for we already know that truth. We stand on our own two feet and don't need to be spoon fed or treated like intergalactic toddlers.

    So, while disclosure would be a great catalyst for change I don't believe we should rely on ET's/government or anyone else to come save the day and do the work for us - we can't be certain of their motives for a start - but we can put the responsibility squarely and collectively at our own feet.

    While contact with other races and species would be cool and interesting, I think we always have to ultimately retain our own power and believe in ourselves to make the right choices; trust is earned and not blindly given.

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