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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    I've just been directed towards this site for Lightworkers and seen this posted. You may be interested

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    To all lightworkers and lightwarriors,

    I am going to share with you some secrets today. That way everyone will know that I am, in fact, for real and that I am giving a 24 hour heads up on what is about to happen. I am happy to announce that 'The Day' that we have all been waiting for is here. That 'Day' is in fact an event. A simple act of free will in accordance with Universal Law that creates change throughout the world. I have long awaited this time but I had to wait for the time to be right and the sign to appear.

    That sign appeared on January 25, 2012 when Salusa May...finally...spoke to me.

    http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...25january-2012

    And this is how long that I have been waiting for that sign.

    http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...ng-you-tell-me
    The cat's name is Zeus. He's an African Serval and a very important part to my mission. The car is a 2003 BMW M3 that was stock when we bought it and I heavily modified myself. Many answers will be forth coming in my interview tomorrow , Saturday February 4, 2012 at 5 pm PST on http://www.projectcamelot.org.

    I think that everyone will clearly understand the words that spoke back on July 3, 2011 and understand what has been occurring over the course of the past several months to bring about the change that I discuss in my posting. Unfortunately, the posting was largely ignored at time. It is now, however, more readily understood at this time by the human race. As you see towards the end of the posting, I spoke to Salusa directly for help and help has been continuously there for me since. It is now my understanding that it is time to move forward. I am asking you my brothers and sisters to come with me so I will reveal a piece of information to you before everyone else hears it in an effort to reenforce your faith of the coming times that have long been promised.

    In the second interview/the livestream interview, I spoke out of practically no where of someone that I felt very connected to named Eva. I dont know exactly when in the interview I said it but it is pretty clear that I mentioned her. Realize that she contacted me after my first interview and we had only exchanged two emails at this point. I was extremely distracted with the events that were occurring in my life and only wanted to get to safety which I did immediately after the second interview. I only spoke with Eva after I reached my sanctuary here in 'the land where peace began'. Eva is the mystery guest that will be appearing during my interview. She will stating that during that exact moment when I spoke of her during the interview, she was stating her love for me to her son openly. She will also be speaking of many other interesting events in her life that have led up to this time on the Earth. She has been just as driven by forces that neither of us completely understand. We do however feel very strongly. If you have any doubts about what is occurring on the planet right now, I strongly suggest you watch the interview tomorrow to determine mine and hers sincerity and our desire and ability to catalyze the changes that we have all been waiting for.

    I will leave you, my brothers and sisters, with this note. With my understanding of Universal Law and the necessity of the free will of all of us, I have announced that I ask everyone that hears my message to donate a dollar to change the world. Please understand that this is not an effort to solicit money. As a matter of fact, I have already used most of the money that I have been given already to create a miracle. I haven't used a dime for myself. The donation of the dollar is an act of free will that radiates throughout the universal and announces to our brothers and sisters not of this world that we are ready to accept the change that they offer us. Only then it can be given. The donation is only the easiest way for me to organize this change. If you truly can not contribute, simply email a heartfelt message to me of your desire for change and that will be just as well. billwood1022@gmail.com On Saturday, I will be talking about some truly remarkable news. For most people on this planet, the announcement of this news will not come easy but I believe that the people that are drawn to this message thus far will be ready to hear it all and accept the truth of it.

    So if you feel that you would like to participate in the change that I am proposing, please follow the link below and donate a single dollar. You may donate more if you wish knowing that it will all go to something beautiful but a dollar is all that is necessary. After you do, I will be speaking to those that do on Saturday and you will understand who you are and the simple tasks that you will be asked to complete to affect the changes that we have all, for so long, anticipated and have been promised. Most importantly, you will have renewed hope and knowledge that you were the first among the human race that chose change.

    https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...=5Q8BQTHSVZ3CA

    If you havent seen my interviews or want to understand more, here is my blog. http://thetreeoflibertymovement.blogspot.com/

    The donate button along with the explanation is there as well. I will tell everyone this as well. The donation idea is working. As a matter of fact, it is working very well and will continue to work even better after my next interview. I do, however, believe those of us that use Salusa's words as guidance in our lives will be a critical part of the changes that I am about to proposal. Please follow your hearts and determine before Saturday's interview if my message resonates with you. This is the change that we have all been asking for. The only question now is if you will support the changes.

    My heartfelt thanks go out to all of you. Wish me courage for this next part of my journey.

    Bill Brockbrader aka Bill Wood aka sinj1n

    PS...here's a fun link that explains whats happening in Earthly terms. https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kl6N_HO7iqU

    source http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...l-been-waiting

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    Each side of the coin has a reverse side.
    .... be gentle with your anger. Sixto Rodriguez, Cape Town 20.02.2013

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    Quote Posted by blufire (here)
    I am not posting here today to rub salt into a very raw and painful open wound.

    But, there is something that is disturbingly obvious to me especially in this thread. If you read all the way through you will find there is not ONE mention of what we, as the human race of this planet can do for the galactics or aliens.

    All you will read is what we want . . . . .actually . . . . are demanding from them.

    What do we have to offer? We do not approach ‘them’ as equal partners or with resolve to do our part or actually our responsibility.

    We have become a pathetic welfare planet . . . . more than that a planet of Takers. We demand disclosure, demand free energy, demand free medical or healing chambers, demand demand demand . . . .want want want . . . .take take take . . . me me me

    Read back through this thread . . . not one mention of how we will take responsibility for our actions or roll up our sleeves and do our part or more importantly clean up our own pathetic mess.

    So now that it is clear that this has been a farce from the get go are we going to go sit in the corner and pout? Or are we individually and then collectively take a long hard look in the mirror . . . get up roll up our sleeves and get the work done.

    Isn’t that the premise behind being what many here call a “lightworker’? We have come back at this time, dimension, and this planet to do a job. WE . . . each of us . . . made that agreement and feel that constant nagging of ‘we are supposed to be doing something or I know I have come here to do something and I can’t figure it out.

    Simply, it is to get up. . . man up . . . and do something!! It is not fancy, shiny, ethereal, mystical or magical. It is “get you ass in gear and get it done”.

    Stop waiting for the gravy train to come in or the next dimension to come in and swoop us away to never never land.

    This is it folks . . .make it special and it is special. When you pull yourself out of your “woe is me attitude’ and do something for your fellow man, fellow inhabitant of our planet, for the planet . . . . then you will see the magic . . . . you will feel and live the life we demand and expect from everybody else but ourselves.

    I’m parking that big ole’ shiny limo right in front of everybody’s door that is reading this post . . . . are you gonna get on?
    Bluefire…..

    Fabulous post…..

    Sigh! .... I very rarely post these days……

    Today we sit in front of a computer screen and spend our time trying to be the greatest Keyboard Warrior of the forum, when in fact we are actually looking into the window of the Collective Human Consciousness and the greatest library of knowledge bequeathed to modern man at the mere click of a button and unless one lifts one’s head away from the screen and looks around ………we see absolutely nothing and learn zero of our real lives around us.

    John Lear hits it right on the mark when he says……..

    Live your life with Integrity, without envy ….. greed or hate.

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    It would be nice to see those that doubted that we were trying to point out the fallacies of the GFL and this trip recognize us for being reasonable and logical about this situation and just trying to help. It still surprises me to this day how gullible some people are, it's 2012.
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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    Feeling silly? DON”T.
    You trusted and it didn't work out.

    Your response shows a pure heart.
    I really truly mean that, it's purer than mine!

    This is why we need the head as well as the heart.
    It is the true meaning of the unity of the two truths.

    When the heart and mind work together,
    nobody can ever pull the wool over your eyes again.

    We are always learning, there is no end to it.
    But it can appear a little painful, as the inner conflict
    produces a moment of expansion.

    While others like myself smile, you move on.

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    from Steve Beckow

    As of 4:00 a.m. Saturday morning, I haven’t heard that anyone in Australia has left.

    People have set up emails that they will launch the minute someone shows up to escort them to the Neptune and, as far as I’m aware, when I survey my groaning inbox, I see no emails.

    I’ll be speaking to Grener at 8:00 a.m. Pacific time, 11:00 Eastern time, which I think is 5:00 p.m. Zurich time and 3:00 a.m. Sydney time (better check those last two times).

    That will be Linda’s biweekly conference call, which she is allowing us to use to talk to Grener. You’re welcome to listen in. No, there won’t be questions permitted, I’m afraid.

    The number is 1-559-546-1301 and the access code is 534452#.

    We will make a transcript.

    I’ll be asking Grener why the scouts in the U.S. and no one in Australia reports being taken up, although that was said to be the plan.

    I’ll be informing Grener that he has sixty minutes with us on the air and even in that time the galactics can pick up someone, given that it’s Saturday, and tell us then and there that the first person has been picked up. (No, I don’t mean pick up someone specially for the show. I mean pick up someone on the flight list and tell us it has happened.)

    I’ll be asking him why sources like SaLuSa say that nothing can stop the Light, that they can deliver the Plan, no matter what situations change, and yet time and again lightworkers who take them at their word, at least on the surface, appear to be left in the lurch.

    “Trust in us and God that events are going to proceed as promised, and do not worry as to the timing as it will occur in a way that is exactly correct for the desired outcome. Also be assured that the end times will work out as planned, and that responsibility is ours and everything is totally prepared.” (1)

    “When you think about the worldwide problems that exist, and the extent of the changes that are coming know that it is quite an undertaking even for us. However, we have unlimited resources and have complete confidence in our ability to deliver the plan.” (2)

    “As we have stated, the whole mission has been carefully planned with you in mind, as we quite clearly know your full needs. The world’s population is vast, yet to the Galactic Federation it presents no problems when you bear in mind we have millions of ships at our command. So although time continues to pass by quickly, there is no real problem as far as we are concerned.” (3)

    The galactics’ delivery on their promises does not appear to be crisp. Even if they were to come now, they still did not keep at least the first of their promises and that cannot be reassuring to us who depend on them to play their part.

    We deserve crispness in the delivery on promises. The world, if it is to take the galatics on their say-so, deserves to see that kind of impeccability.

    If they do not appear this time, just as they did not on Oct. 14, 2008 and afterwards, they risk giving terrestrials the impression that they leave their allies in the lurch, that being an ally of the galactics is a risky venture. I personally will not allow this to happen without the galactics receiving our protest.

    I know and I will tell Grener how many of you have risked telling your children and friends why you will be away for ten days and, if the galactics fail to come through, they risk putting you through tremendous upset – seemingly for nothing.

    I’m sure they will have an explanation for why they failed to appear, but explanations are no substitute for delivering on promises.

    Their word simply will not be heeded and people will not be willing to risk for them if they do not show themselves able to deliver today, when so much of the world is watching and so many of you are risking.

    Again, no one is seeking fame or fortune from any of this, so I’m not going to say “Don’t miss this program.” It isn’t about me, just as I know it isn’t about you. So you can miss this program if you like and nothing will come of you missing it.

    But it is about our faith in the ability of the galactics to deliver on their promises and the trust that they ask the whole of humanity to place in them.

    So the session is there for you to hear what the galactics have to say.

    I am not afraid of the dark but equally I am not afraid of the Light. And neither need you be.

    Stan
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    Where are the scalpers?

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    Does anyone else remember the Blossom Goodchild incident?

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    I;ve never heard about it. What happened?

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    Thanks, Pie'n'eal,

    I do not feel foolish. I feel like I have learned whose posts not to bother looking at!

    I continue to be astonished at how people can, in one breath (or maybe two) 1) acknowledge that you have the right to your own opinion, and they theirs, 2) imply that their point is right and yours is wrong, 3) express hope that you develop some wisdom and learn to see things as they do, as their vision is true and yours, clearly, is not, and cannot be, 4) hope that you will wise up, because, indeed, you are putting everyone else at risk by your ridiculous naivete.

    And more of the same. And over and over again.

    I for one am not going to change in the direction they want me to go, because I see that as being quite negative, and I do not wish to go there.

    I insist I am quite capable of critical thinking, a bit more so, in my opinion, than many who have stated their opinions-as-factual-reality on this thread. And I think differently than they do. And I do not want to learn to think as they do, because to me their bias is just that -- bias.

    There is more information now. I just transcribed a morning talk with Linda Dillon and Grener, and far too many poor naive idiots on the conference call for it to work right. But I need to go finish that. And I don't feel like wasting my time putting it up here. I'm feeling kind of disgusted. Not with Grener and those fellows, but with some of my fellow Avalonians. I know there are many out there of like mind and heart to mine, but they sometimes are not as out front with their feelings and thoughts. Kimberley is! Many thanks to her! And Rahkyt. And there are others. Of course, Cellardoor and Ria.

    But there are also all those others.

    I'm getting kind of old here, and while some of you might think I haven't learned much, I think I've learned a few important things. And the most important one, probably, is that it is a mistake to try to impose your will on other people. Even when you absolutely know that you are right, and they are wrong. Most particularly when you are absolutely sure you are right and they are wrong. Because that particular point of view is the position of a closed mind, no matter how much it professes otherwise. If you know for sure what is so, and it cannot be otherwise, how can you learn anything? I think you cannot, at least not much.

    So, deeply felt appreciation to some of you, and you know who you are. And I can more comfortably now ignore quite a few of you, as you are fixed, as an immovable object, in your positions and communication is thus pointless, as I have no desire to sit at your feet and learn whatever it is you think you have to teach.

    I prefer to live in the world of possibilities, not negatives, and I am quite comfortable here.

    Ciao! And onward and upward!

    ETM
    ETM

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    I do like a good illusion.


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    Quote Posted by angel in disguise (here)
    Does anyone else remember the Blossom Goodchild incident?
    Of course, it was only three years ago.
    ET SI OMNES, EGO NON

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    Quote Posted by etm567 (here)
    Thanks, Pie'n'eal,

    I do not feel foolish. I feel like I have learned whose posts not to bother looking at!

    I continue to be astonished at how people can, in one breath (or maybe two) 1) acknowledge that you have the right to your own opinion, and they theirs, 2) imply that their point is right and yours is wrong, 3) express hope that you develop some wisdom and learn to see things as they do, as their vision is true and yours, clearly, is not, and cannot be, 4) hope that you will wise up, because, indeed, you are putting everyone else at risk by your ridiculous naivete.

    And more of the same. And over and over again.

    I for one am not going to change in the direction they want me to go, because I see that as being quite negative, and I do not wish to go there.

    I insist I am quite capable of critical thinking, a bit more so, in my opinion, than many who have stated their opinions-as-factual-reality on this thread. And I think differently than they do. And I do not want to learn to think as they do, because to me their bias is just that -- bias.

    There is more information now. I just transcribed a morning talk with Linda Dillon and Grener, and far too many poor naive idiots on the conference call for it to work right. But I need to go finish that. And I don't feel like wasting my time putting it up here. I'm feeling kind of disgusted. Not with Grener and those fellows, but with some of my fellow Avalonians. I know there are many out there of like mind and heart to mine, but they sometimes are not as out front with their feelings and thoughts. Kimberley is! Many thanks to her! And Rahkyt. And there are others. Of course, Cellardoor and Ria.

    But there are also all those others.

    I'm getting kind of old here, and while some of you might think I haven't learned much, I think I've learned a few important things. And the most important one, probably, is that it is a mistake to try to impose your will on other people. Even when you absolutely know that you are right, and they are wrong. Most particularly when you are absolutely sure you are right and they are wrong. Because that particular point of view is the position of a closed mind, no matter how much it professes otherwise. If you know for sure what is so, and it cannot be otherwise, how can you learn anything? I think you cannot, at least not much.

    So, deeply felt appreciation to some of you, and you know who you are. And I can more comfortably now ignore quite a few of you, as you are fixed, as an immovable object, in your positions and communication is thus pointless, as I have no desire to sit at your feet and learn whatever it is you think you have to teach.

    I prefer to live in the world of possibilities, not negatives, and I am quite comfortable here.

    Ciao! And onward and upward!

    ETM
    ETM
    ETM, I want to be wrong. I want them to exist and be exactly what they say they are, I want to visit and see for myself, but it's been years and years of promises without a single photograph. So many promises and nothing at all to show for it but more words.

    We're running out of time. The global mess is collapsing now and the elite just keep getting worse. All those people who are waiting for the galactics to save them could be creating their own tribes, be growing their own food, be creating some real love and light instead of waiting for the next batch of words from the channelers.

    Can you blame us for disbelieving when yet another promise is broken?

    Come back with some video from inside the ships and I'll eat my words but as it stands it doesn't look good.

    Joe

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    Quote Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
    You can trace the GFL back to its original sorce. Ashtar = Van Tassel = Theosophical Society = Madame Blavatsky.....

    Mad Hatter...
    Any further pointers to more info on this statement ?? (I like nugget hunts...)

    Hi, a basic search will reveal:

    George Van Tassel is the original channeller of Astar
    Contactees
    George Van Tassel - Ashtar Galactic Command later known as The Galactic Federation of Light
    The Wisdom Newsletter
    The Theosophical Society (england)
    Theosophical Society (wiki)
    Helena Blavatsky (wiki)
    Helena Blavatsky - Blavatsky Net - Theosophy
    Master Jesus
    THE HISTORY OF - Man made UFO's
    Ascended Masters
    St. Germain (Theosophy)
    Theosophy and the Human Dino
    Blavatsky Ascended Masters
    Ascended master (Blavatsky(wiki))
    George Van Tassel (Ascended Masters)
    ASHTAR ~ A TRIBUTE
    UFO CULTS


    The list is nigh on endless. All roads run back to Madame Blavatsky & her Theosophical Society

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    If you actually want to understand the connections - not just the surface connections - but the real theosophical connections with all this stuff you would actually have to start reading the secret doctrine.

    Sadly most people who are very critical of the organization never bother to actual read this work - mainly because it is massive.

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    latest from Steve. He has not given up yet.

    Posted by Steve Beckow

    Linda and I are just seeing at the moment if she can reschedule her morning appointments to allow me an immediate discussion with Grener. I’ve asked her not to postpone the discussion even for a few hours because once the rumor mill gets started, it will be difficult to counteract and may take the initiative away from us.

    So I will have word on that as soon as possible. I will be asking Grener at least to take a small group of us in a very public manner to the Neptune in the hopes that that smaller mission will at least furnish lightworkers with the tangible evidence they need that this whole scenario is not somehow make believe.

    The arrangement of speaking with Grener via Linda’s biweekly conference call has not worked in the manner we expected. I’m not sure that Linda could find my line to unmute and when we unmuted everyone, there was no possibility that just one person could be heard. So I shall be speaking to Linda and Grener privately as soon as can be arranged today.

    Those that were on the call heard Grener say that the plan that had been worked out was not manageable for a number of reasons and had to be postponed in favor of a different plan. The different plan is to take people on board the ship in small numbers.

    Grener did not discuss the reasons yet, at least not in a way that was clear enough for me to communicate here, knowing that the first way those reasons are stated will be the way they will be forever understood. I will wait till I have a very clearer understanding from Grener before stating them. He did say that the group had grown too large (originally conceived to be 150, it was larger than 300). But that was not the only reason and probably not the most important.

    I can only speak for myself that I would have no problem if people were to go on the Neptune in small numbers. That might be an even better plan than the present one was. But what would be critical is that at least the first small group, and it can be as small as three, go on the ship today. And I am going to advise Grener that that first visit needs to be as public as possible.

    I believe that lightworkers need some sign, some tangible proof that all this is happening and, if we can only have some indisputable event occur, at least a part of this mission will have been satisfied.

    I can well imagine the disappointment that many people feel. I also know that there are people who’ve told their children or other loved ones that they intended to go aboard the ship and have met with fierce reactions. In some cases sons and daughters have said they will never speak to their parents again if they go.

    Others have cancelled work shifts and appointments. From our point of view this is not at all a satisfactory outcome.

    Moreover the naysayers will have a field day, as will the maintstream press, in painting this as another weird and outrageous example of moonbeams and fairy dust. And if this does occur, it may sweep all good intentions aside and override any attempts at realizing Grener’s Plan B.

    If it does, I will have to leave public life. Not because you want it or I want it but because, if the movement for Disclosure is not to be injured, then the mad crowds of naysayers out there will need a target. Without a target, they will target everyone. With a target, they may focus on that one person and the movement as a whole can be saved from harm. That may be the only way I can serve for the moment at least.

    For me it isn’t a question of fairness or abandoning anyone. It’s a question of what to do to head off a worse outcome.

    Without someone to attach responsibility to (and “responsibility” is a neutral way of referring to what may be slung around), the people who protest may go after everyone who claims to work for the light, believes in the existence of extraterrestrials and UFOs, or works for Ascension.

    I hope that doesn’t become the case but if it does I’m ready to dissociate myself from this work and shoulder the responsibility, not for a flight that did not materialize, or even that did not materialize in the form we were first promised, but for inflaming the other folks in society who don’t share our dream or our intentions.

    But before that happens, I’ll be asking Grener to give us one concession and that is to take three to five of us up now. At least give the terrestrials a very public demonstration that terrestrials of the common folk have met with extraterrestrials of the assembled fleet. Show the world that this is happening. Give us proof.

    If the galactics will not do even this, then I fear that in the time it takes to get Grener’s Plan B underway, the damage will be already done. The wolves will start baying. The dark will fan the flames of moonbeam idiocy.

    Project Blue Beam won’t even be needed for the damage that may be done to people who placed their faith in the galactics and have again, as on Oct. 14, 2008, been left to bear the brunt of a change of plans.

    If the galactics will not even permit a very public team of terrestrials to go very publicly to the ships right now and show the world that this is real, then I fear there will be no way to stop the furor. It is that furor that will force my hand and I will walk away from this, not because I want to, but because someone will need to.
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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    Quote Posted by etm567 (here)
    Thanks, Pie'n'eal,

    I do not feel foolish. I feel like I have learned whose posts not to bother looking at!

    I continue to be astonished at how people can, in one breath (or maybe two) 1) acknowledge that you have the right to your own opinion, and they theirs, 2) imply that their point is right and yours is wrong, 3) express hope that you develop some wisdom and learn to see things as they do, as their vision is true and yours, clearly, is not, and cannot be, 4) hope that you will wise up, because, indeed, you are putting everyone else at risk by your ridiculous naivete.

    And more of the same. And over and over again.

    I for one am not going to change in the direction they want me to go, because I see that as being quite negative, and I do not wish to go there.

    I insist I am quite capable of critical thinking, a bit more so, in my opinion, than many who have stated their opinions-as-factual-reality on this thread. And I think differently than they do. And I do not want to learn to think as they do, because to me their bias is just that -- bias.

    There is more information now. I just transcribed a morning talk with Linda Dillon and Grener, and far too many poor naive idiots on the conference call for it to work right. But I need to go finish that. And I don't feel like wasting my time putting it up here. I'm feeling kind of disgusted. Not with Grener and those fellows, but with some of my fellow Avalonians. I know there are many out there of like mind and heart to mine, but they sometimes are not as out front with their feelings and thoughts. Kimberley is! Many thanks to her! And Rahkyt. And there are others. Of course, Cellardoor and Ria.

    But there are also all those others.

    I'm getting kind of old here, and while some of you might think I haven't learned much, I think I've learned a few important things. And the most important one, probably, is that it is a mistake to try to impose your will on other people. Even when you absolutely know that you are right, and they are wrong. Most particularly when you are absolutely sure you are right and they are wrong. Because that particular point of view is the position of a closed mind, no matter how much it professes otherwise. If you know for sure what is so, and it cannot be otherwise, how can you learn anything? I think you cannot, at least not much.

    So, deeply felt appreciation to some of you, and you know who you are. And I can more comfortably now ignore quite a few of you, as you are fixed, as an immovable object, in your positions and communication is thus pointless, as I have no desire to sit at your feet and learn whatever it is you think you have to teach.

    I prefer to live in the world of possibilities, not negatives, and I am quite comfortable here.

    Ciao! And onward and upward!

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    (But of course,you will probably find it patronising)


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    but to be quite honest,rather look at eye level)

    Much love,
    (have I already said that ? )

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    Those of you who are supporting beckow and the channeled messages and specifically this ‘one’, please help me to understand something.. . . . .please understand I am not challenging you or being sarcastic . . . I am truly trying to understand the thinking behind this kind of event and/or messages.

    The magnitude of this is massive with equally massive repercussions for everyone in the alternative community. We will not survive as a unified community with many more of these type ‘events’.

    Wouldn’t it make more sense for beckow and a couple trusted individuals FIRST make this trip and meet the galactics? Verify and document everything first and then proceed with the big trips for everyone else.

    There just seems to be no common sense or any kind of wisdom in any of this. And now he is continuing with the same thing and drawing this out even more.

    He now just appears so terribly desperate . . . . it is a very hard, very sad thing to watch. (this is a response to billyji post #476)

    Shouldn't somebody step in and help him???

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    Quote Posted by blufire (here)

    Wouldn’t it make more sense for beckow and a couple trusted individuals FIRST make this trip and meet the galactics? Verify and document everything first and then proceed with the big trips for everyone else.


    Shouldn't somebody step in and help him???
    I agree 100%, this to me would have been the prefered way foreward.

    I am not sure in what way we could help, apart from letting him know that we are there for him. sending two scouts ahead was a last minute plan, but would have been better planned from day one.

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    Default Re: 100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

    Another update here....

    OK, I’ve had a discussion with Archangel Michael and Grener of Ashira through Linda for this past perhaps 40 minutes.

    Here is the audiotape of my discussion with Archangel Michael and Grener. The transcript will follow.

    http://www.counciloflove.com/2012cha...412grener2.mp3

    Grener has said that there were three reasons why the trip could not go forward as planned, but will go forward in smaller groups instead. One was difficulties around the safety of those we leave behind. One was the unmanageableness of a large group. And the third was the fact that many people who were coming still have things to clear if their trip was to be successful.

    I think what they want to do is to select from the larger group those people who are ready and bring aboard other people after they’ve had a chance to clear a few more vasanas, as we all will do in the weeks and months ahead. But of course I don’t know for sure. This is just my guess.

    At first I asked to have our own small group go and was told that a different group was going, I think, today.

    I said that we lightworkers needed some visible, tangible proof to give to others, both colleagues, family and friends, to show that this scenario is true. If we can’t all go at once at this moment and show it’s true, then at least bring back that tangible proof to others.

    Archangel Michael said that the small group going today would furnish that proof. But how many times in the past have I been a “nice guy” and allowed someone else to overrule me only to find that the people sent can’t write, or can’t write clearly, or don’t want to share photographs, or don’t want to risk exposing their names. So what looked like a well-laid plan can go completely off the rails. I don’t want that to happen this time.

    Even though my inner voice said it would look egotistical for me to say I want to go, I know I can write clearly and well and convey what I see on the ships. And I know I will share my own photographs freely and allow my name to be used. So I know that I will bring back proof that can be distributed freely.

    So I pushed hard to be allowed to go on this trip – not necessarily for long, but for just long enough to demonstrate the reality of this whole business which so far we only know on paper.

    I asked that this happen as fast as possible so that we don’t lose the momentum and our grip on the ball to the naysayers. Once the flood of recrimination comes in, we may lose the initiative. And they agreed that they would act with despatch.

    So I apologize (and Grener apologized as well) to all the people slated to go on the trip who let go of shifts and cancelled appointments and to others who told their loved ones they were going, only to reap the whirlwind in response. We’ll go aboard the ships, just not in the time frame we planned on.

    I don’t know how people will be selected. Grener said he knew your schedules and would bring you aboard at a time that would fit into them. No, I don’t get the sense that you have to be on a list to go, but I think you have to have agreed that you want to go.

    And the black limousines! The galactics’ two-seater and four-seater space vehicles can assume whatever shape they want and can be made to look like cars and then shift into a space-travelling configuration. So, no, they are not actual “black limousines.”

    I will see that the galactics don’t use humorous descriptions like that in the future which people hear, including other galactics, and use to denigrate the effort. When Grener used the phrase “space bikes,” I asked him not to but to give me a generic and neutral term for whatever he was referring to. We’ll have to do that from now on, I fear – avoid humorous descriptions and concentrate on clarity.

    I personally am satisfied that if I can be permitted to go up onto the Neptune in a timely fashion and bring back photos, artifacts and other evidence of the reality of the ships and the galactics that I can steer my way through the recrimination that may arise without needing to go off into exile.

    The rest you can listen to on the tape or read when Ellen and Ruth have a transcript for us.

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