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    I calmly suggest maybe tottering over to PC and looking at Kerry's Blog. Dated 7 July there is a letter from an Australian source that has me quite stunned at the moment, except for the part where he subtley mentions that he hopes the guys with the auto correct technology steps in one more time to help us out.

    Yes so do I, I have been saying for a while when they are allowed they have been pulling us out of the ****e.

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    Damn... this is big if there's truth in it, it's definately scary, even more scary is my intuition not telling me this is complete bs... thanks for the lead Tuza

    We definately are still missing links and clear explanations about the massive military logistics and movement around the world....

    Makes me wonder whether all those soldiers are really want to go to die for the problably insane reasons they will be asked to fight for?
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    Please see this post on the thread CONFUSION REIGNS.

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    Please see this post on the thread CONFUSION REIGNS.
    Confusion definately Reigns, Whom do we believe?......Insanity will create massive suffering because it has no bounderies it is linked to the Abyss, therefore what is going to stop this insanity unless we change into a species in reality to a higher consciousness and corporeal bodies..meaning nothing in 3D will hurt us...and how is that going to be done?.......anyone have a clue....?
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    Confusion definately Reigns, Whom do we believe?......Insanity will create massive suffering because it has no bounderies it is linked to the Abyss, therefore what is going to stop this insanity unless we change into a species in reality to a higher consciousness and corporeal bodies..meaning nothing in 3D will hurt us...and how is that going to be done?.......anyone have a clue....?
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    Hi Blue777, I'm not at all religious, in fact, if I could give it the time of day, I'd be anti-religion, but the answer to this is in the bible. "Put death beneath your feet". Until you can do that, you will live in fear. And fear is about ego and ego is about low vibrational frequency.

    The barriers of your belief will form the bars which imprison your mind.

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    Thank you Bill.

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    Hi Blue777, I'm not at all religious, in fact, if I could give it the time of day, I'd be anti-religion, but the answer to this is in the bible. "Put death beneath your feet". Until you can do that, you will live in fear. And fear is about ego and ego is about low vibrational frequency.
    Hello Teaki
    Are you saying Kerry is living in fear...she sees the oil spill scenario as armageddon Bill does not ,who is right?
    everyone on the EARTH suffers from ego and fear, therefore we have to conquer FEAR AND THE EGO how do we negate something which is at the atomic level.
    lol
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    Hello Everyone, please forgive me I am very new at this.

    I too have seen and read the information that Kerry and Bill have presented about the Oil Spill, and found the letter from the Australian whistleblower astonishing, But! I also find myself in a situation that I have found myself in many times before, who is telling the facts as they appear and NOT there interpretation of the truth, I don't want to sound like I am casting doubt on what Bill and Kerry and others have stated. I feel that these are pieces of the Huge Puzzle (Gulf Oil Spill).
    I suppose the real truth will come to the surface after the pressure tests have completed
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others,
    even to the dull and ignorant; they too have their story
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    Quote Posted by Phil (here)
    Hello Everyone, please forgive me I am very new at this.

    I too have seen and read the information that Kerry and Bill have presented about the Oil Spill, and found the letter from the Australian whistleblower astonishing, But! I also find myself in a situation that I have found myself in many times before, who is telling the facts as they appear and NOT there interpretation of the truth, I don't want to sound like I am casting doubt on what Bill and Kerry and others have stated. I feel that these are pieces of the Huge Puzzle (Gulf Oil Spill).
    I suppose the real truth will come to the surface after the pressure tests have completed
    Hello Phil
    therefore who is telling the truth Kerry or Bill?
    lol
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    as with ALL ISSUES ...Bill and Kerry are NOT experts on any issue and their discernment has been proven to be very poor in so many issues....why give them so much credit?...they are no more awake than most others,often the more "whistleblower" or "insider"
    info people get,the more confused and disoriented they become..as always it's about tuning in to your own inner guidance and your ability to do so is worth more than a million "insider" sources or "expert" info..,.as far as the oil spill issue goes..one "expert" says this,another says that..who we choose to listen to or who resonates with us is UP TO US.

    I,for one,am not concerniong myself with flooding my conciousness with oil spill theories...best to remain NEUTRAL on these types of issues and in that NEUTRALITY I am not adding to the psychic pollution created by this oil spill trigger event that is aimed at distracting people and bringing down their frequency

    Ask yourself,is my being distracted and freaked out by this oil spill situation helping the situation or raising the mass conciousness or is it just a pointless distraction and another method for TPTB to lower humanities frequency?...
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    as with ALL ISSUES ...Bill and Kerry are NOT experts on any issue and their discernment has been proven to be very poor in so many issues....why give them so much credit?...they are no more awake than most others,often the more "whistleblower" or "insider"
    info people get,the more confused and disoriented they become..as always it's about tuning in to your own inner guidance and your ability to do so is worth more than a million "insider" sources or "expert" info..,.as far as the oil spill issue goes..one "expert" says this,another says that..who we choose to listen to or who resonates with us is UP TO US.

    I,for one,am not concerniong myself with flooding my conciousness with oil spill theories...best to remain NEUTRAL on these types of issues and in that NEUTRALITY I am not adding to the psychic pollution created by this oil spill trigger event that is aimed at distracting people and bringing down their frequency

    Ask yourself,is my being distracted and freaked out by this oil spill situation helping the situation or raising the mass conciousness or is it just a pointless distraction and another method for TPTB to lower humanities frequency?...
    quote: Bill and Kerry are NOT experts on any issue and their discernment has been proven to be very poor in so many issues....why give them so much credit?...they are no more awake than most others,often the more "whistleblower" or "insider"
    info people get,the more confused and disoriented they become..as always it's about tuning in to your own inner guidance and your ability to do so is worth more than a million "insider" sources or "expert" info..,.as far as the oil spill issue goes..one "expert" says this,another says that..who we choose to listen to or who resonates with us is UP TO US.

    The problem here is if they have not the truth who has? ...also have they stopped listening to people.....is that pride or ego?

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    What happens is that many people in the alternative community KNOW in their hearts and bones that there is something very badly wrong on Planet Earth.

    But: they DON'T know exactly what that is, and in their passion and zeal they sometimes seize on the wrong thing. They pick up totally the wrong ball, and start running with it as fast as they can.

    The controllers, understanding this mechanism perfectly, are quite delighted to provide wrong balls for us to run with.

    That's why we have to be smarter than we sometimes are.

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    Quote Posted by shiva777 (here)
    as with ALL ISSUES ...Bill and Kerry are NOT experts on any issue and their discernment has been proven to be very poor in so many issues....why give them so much credit?...they are no more awake than most others,often the more "whistleblower" or "insider"
    info people get,the more confused and disoriented they become..as always it's about tuning in to your own inner guidance and your ability to do so is worth more than a million "insider" sources or "expert" info..,.as far as the oil spill issue goes..one "expert" says this,another says that..who we choose to listen to or who resonates with us is UP TO US.

    I,for one,am not concerniong myself with flooding my conciousness with oil spill theories...best to remain NEUTRAL on these types of issues and in that NEUTRALITY I am not adding to the psychic pollution created by this oil spill trigger event that is aimed at distracting people and bringing down their frequency

    Ask yourself,is my being distracted and freaked out by this oil spill situation helping the situation or raising the mass conciousness or is it just a pointless distraction and another method for TPTB to lower humanities frequency?...
    I agree with you! we have to follow what resonate with us, not follow a ''leader''. And yes, it's better to stay neutral and not lower our frequencies with that event. Doesn't mean we do not have to do something about it.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    What happens is that many people in the alternative community KNOW in their hearts and bones that there is something very badly wrong on Planet Earth.

    But: they DON'T know exactly what that is, and in their passion and zeal they sometimes seize on the wrong thing. They pick up totally the wrong ball, and start running with it as fast as they can.

    The controllers, understanding this mechanism perfectly, are quite delighted to provide wrong balls for us to run with.

    That's why we have to be smarter than we sometimes are.
    Kerry on her video from SOUTH AFRICA said that we are going into an Armageddon scenario,ring of fire etc......chaos...however you Bill disagree , is this a private battle or do you not trust her info?......
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    First of all, I don't recall Bill asking, offering, or pretending to lead anyone anywhere.

    In fact, his most consistent answer to this kind of thing is usually for people to read the info, and make up their own minds.
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    People...Bill Ryan is one of the few that does diligent homework, He is one that uses logic, sensibility and intelligence. This Man has been around far more than most here. He is experienced in many feilds and totally understands the position of dis-info. He like most of us can at times get it wrong and with all due credit, he is the first to see the trappings and 'caught upness' when engaging in info such as the OIL spill and the like. We are very fortunate to have him here to help with discernment issues and info.

    This is a world plagued with b/s, riddled with dis-info, fully working on our weakness, our fear, our dupeness our seperation. I for one am grateful for all the work both Bill and Kerry have done. They are like us, trying to make sense of this world, the big questions...they are human beings! give them some credit, they deserve it!

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    I have the greatest respect for the integrity of Bill. What you see is what you get.
    Of course he isent an expert
    An expert Is a "Has been drip under pressure" = ex spurt. Laughing
    Bill is no " has been, by any definition, he does his best to bring up to the minute info
    And I value his opinion though not necessarily agreeing with it.
    When he is mistaken he is quick to admit it, some others have a problem with doing that.
    I am indebted to him for this forum where I have made great friends, fellow travelers, that I would not have met otherwise.
    A great saying is "live and let live"
    I think it is the hight of ignorance and bad manners to be critical of some one who is providing a free facility that we enjoy.
    Sometimes I think it is best when we have a criticism of our host to just let it go.
    Bill is very patient with us all even those who break the forum rules.
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    Hey Chris!

    Expert: (n.) Any jerk more than 50 miles from home, with a briefcase in his hand.

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    Hey Chris!

    Expert: (n.) Any jerk more than 50 miles from home, with a briefcase in his hand.
    You never fail to amuse me my friend and fellow sailor.
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    I was just wondering that source from oz who sent the letter could/maybe/might be outback Jack. Mmmmh. Not sure of course.

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