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    Thanks for the embedded video of Keshe technologies... I appreciated hearing yet another, (new to me) effort in this world of energy for the people. I think there are perhaps more than a dozen technologies purported to lift humanity upright, just in time, before world-order gets much worse.

    I understood that the promised tech was withheld, primarily for the smooth transition out of the world chaos. Perhaps to allow governments to finally enact free markets? Would they ever dare try free markets, on a truly level playing field? I wonder. In case market chaos is something controllable, perhaps? The idea that powers that be have a good plan, which needs to be delayed here and there, now and then. To assure it gets no worse than it already is. Or that higher experts of advanced technologies should not interfere with human free will. I wonder about all such claims, with artistic license.

    May life inspire us all in these interesting times. I love the inspiration.

    I just noticed that http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation offers some tech details, more to catch up on there.
    I wish I could agree that keshe was honest. But his attitude is that of a wicked money making guy. As usual god favours the wicked people like Keshe and he is getting a little recognition though the mainstream scientific community is yet to recognise his work as valid. Has Keshes work been accepted by any peer reviewed journal. No. Yet there are enough fools out there who will give money to him to perpetuate his scam. As usual wicked men like him prosper while the poor suffer. What he is doing is not right but that is the kind of world we live in. A world with no rules where evil men like Keshe claim they have something and dont deliver yet get away with it. Really frustrates me when men like Keshe promise something dangling the carrot treating us like donkeys to make money for him.

    Just a heads up for anyone interested in this thread....Kumaran is the official Keshe Foundation Stalker....


    see here for more info on that (scroll down page for relevant bit)


    http://www.keshefoundation.com/en/in...-keshe-scammer


    Quote Mr. Kumaran goes on on many forums of the internet, discrediting the Foundation.
    It dosent change the fact that keshe is a scammer and an evil person. If he really cared about humanity he would freely share his knowledge with mankind. He is a ruthless man who promises demonstrations and never does them. Until he does so he is to be considered a scammer. Alll he cares about is dangling the promise of technology demonstrations in order to make 50000 euros. Typical megalomaniac bastard. As usual because I asked for proof and he failed to provide it I called him a scam. Then he started to claim I worked for the big brother. What big brother. That is what all the free energy people say that people who doubt them work for some grand conspiracy. It is Keshe who suffers from schizophrenia. He has megalomaniac disease.
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    The Keshe Foundation has something interesting coming up on 21.4.12..at Ninove.

    This is what Mehran Keshe says on his forum....


    http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb...hp?f=10&t=2433


    Quote The Keshe Foundation announced on 16.3.2012 that the Foundation would hold an exclusive and special presentation at its centre in Ninove, Belgium.

    The purpose of this exclusive presentation is the introduction of the Keshe Foundation gravitational space technology to the international space agencies and governments.


    and in another post on the thread....



    Quote We gave our knowledge in space program free of charge and as a gift to Iranian scientists.

    Thus this will be the same for the rest.

    We do not and shall not sell our technology to the officials, governments and space agencies whom attend the meeting, but the technology will be given as a gift to them as part of our belief in the mans equality in knowledge share.

    This time around there will be no one nation in space, but all together and in one move.

    How each entity commercialises their part of new knowledge from us to increase their research then this will be in the hand of each government and organisation.

    Our space technology will be a gift to your nations and not a sale.

    We have asked for public to be there that this time the technology will not be shelved, but in open to be used for the good of all men, irrespective of nations and religions.

    We will invite ISA, NASA as ESA and this time we will work in one direction and not whom will be the super-power.

    Today is the first day of the spring and a new beginning for mankind and this will the way we have set our goal.

    New beginning, New ethos and new Science for this era.

    In this meeting African nations will have the same opportunity in developing their space program as Iran, USA and Russia will have. Whom does not attend will be their lose and shame on their arrogance.

    As I said in my recent talks in Holland, Can you pay dollars or gold to beings in space, whom we will encounter soon.

    Monitory values of the man will be gift of man for the earth living and in space we will work and support each other as one planet and no payment.

    There are no Mc Donald’s and no bread shops to buy food from in space.

    The Keshe Foundation has done all its work to take the man into space independent of the earth resources and now we are ready to share the whole knowledge with the whole of mankind.

    No patent no peer-review control, all our knowledge is for all nations and all men.

    Welcome the true world of the humanity and the ethos of the Keshe Foundation of once of mankind.


    I am of the opinion that Mehran Keshe is honestly working to contribute to the good of humankind.


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    How many times has he promised to demonstrate his technology and release his technology only to give phony excuses why he cant. I will believe Keshe when he does do the demonstration and I hear from a reputed source that he has. Until he publicly demonstrates by video to the worlds press and releases his technology he is nothing more than just another evil scammer. If he really cared about humanity all he has to do is release the plans publicly on the net. that way anyone who wants can build the free energy and antigravity applications. The fact that he dosent proves he is a scam. I hate people who keep secrets. keshe is too secretive. hence scam.

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    Just a heads up for anyone interested in this thread....Kumaran is the official Keshe Foundation Stalker....

    see here for more info on that (scroll down page for relevant bit)

    http://www.keshefoundation.com/en/in...-keshe-scammer

    Quote Mr. Kumaran goes on on many forums of the internet, discrediting the Foundation.
    Thanks jaybee, much appreciated

    BTW, I am busy reading Merhan's Keshe three books. Quite a challenge, intellectually speaking! But so far, definitely worth the ride.

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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Just a heads up for anyone interested in this thread....Kumaran is the official Keshe Foundation Stalker....

    see here for more info on that (scroll down page for relevant bit)

    http://www.keshefoundation.com/en/in...-keshe-scammer

    Quote Mr. Kumaran goes on on many forums of the internet, discrediting the Foundation.
    Thanks jaybee, much appreciated

    BTW, I am busy reading Merhan's Keshe three books. Quite a challenge, intellectually speaking! But so far, definitely worth the ride.
    Keshe theory makes no sense at all. he says matter, antimatter and dark matter are all inside a proton when everyone knows matter and antimatter are two entirely different things and cannot exist in a neutron together. Keshe is a liar and you are a fool to believe him. he is just a scammer out to make money. if he really cared he could demonstrate his device to independent scientists who will then evaluate his device. But he dosen't. He is extremely secretive. Keshe behaves just like a politician does everything behind closed doors like the latest demonstration. I hate people who keep secrets.

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    Kumaran60 has been on a mission to discredit Keshe, under various names, for some time now. See for example this post, by one Kumaran Sanmugathasan, from 2009, who I am confident is the same person. While I admire Kumaran60's persistence and dedication to his task for this long ... it is not an appropriate basis for membership on this forum. His account has been closed.

    Thanks to those who brought this to our attention.
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    Thanks jaybee, much appreciated

    BTW, I am busy reading Merhan's Keshe three books. Quite a challenge, intellectually speaking! But so far, definitely worth the ride.




    I'm just watching the OP video again to try and 'get' the physics a bit more....


    Just one week to the major presentation.


    It will be very interesting to see how all that pans out...


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    WELCOME TO THE PROJECT CAMELOT NEWSLETTER
    NEW!! : LIVESTREAM EVENT 7PM PDT -- FREE EVENT
    COMING ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 18, 2012
    KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWS M.T. KESHE - IRANIAN PHYSICIST
    RE: PLASMA REACTORS, UFOS & ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGIES



    We are very pleased to announce this upcoming livestream event. MT Keshe is now in Belgium working on plasma physics, space technologies and other alternative energy technology.
    An excerpt from the Objectives page on the Keshe Foundation website:
    ..."One of the objectives of The Keshe Foundation is to apply plasma reactors in "Oasis Units", which will deliver an integrated solution for human basic needs, such as drinking water, current, light and warmth, where today 1.6 billion people have no electricity and every day 4,000 children die in Southern Africa from contaminated water.

    At the same time the Foundation is at present primarily involved in opening and is bringing deep space travel in real universal term and conditions a reality in short number of years to the reach of every man. Where the man made propulsion technology has become the story of the past."
    click here for the Keshe Foundation site
    Note: this event will be recording audio but video will be limited to images from his website related to the conversation unless otherwise indicated.

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    Looking forward to this interview!

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    cheers.....I won't be able to listen to it live but look forward to the recording..


    here's the link to 'Project Camelot Live' for anyone who's interested.


    http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/

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    I look forward to hearing this later on mp3. Kerry has been so generous with her interview access, thanks for that!

    Just in case this is of relevant... If anyone is able to get a question in and might be intrigued with a simple geometric question to ask:

    Does the "free energy" device somehow incorporate coil-windings which are spherically wound, while incorporating multiple axes, (plural of axis)? Simplified visual example of coils wound upon a tennis ball, to provide multiple axes:



    I can appreciate that technical questions might be restricted, due to the many complications of our world condition. Nevertheless, there might be an opening for general, fundamental questions like this.

    Axes or axis is key to 'polarity', where natural forces interact tangentially and orthogonally. Polarity has been often touched upon, in our global rabbit hole.

    Spherical and non-linear helices have been one of my passions.
    http://harmoniouspalette.com/CrossWaysCoil.html
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    Kumaran60 has been on a mission to discredit Keshe, under various names, for some time now. See for example this post, by one Kumaran Sanmugathasan, from 2009, who I am confident is the same person. While I admire Kumaran60's persistence and dedication to his task for this long ... it is not an appropriate basis for membership on this forum. His account has been closed.

    Thanks to those who brought this to our attention.
    Did you bother checking IP adresses?













    ..... Or was it just a very good hunch?

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    Onyx,

    Kehse has a statement on his site regarding this person and his conduct.

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    Did you bother checking IP adresses?

    ..... Or was it just a very good hunch?
    Neither, really . IP addrs are seldom useful; hunches (well, my hunches anyway) are seldom an adequate basis for significant action affecting others.

    I have other research tools I prefer.
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    Onyx,

    Kehse has a statement on his site regarding this person and his conduct.
    I'm just teasing Paul .


    I never said what was done was unjustified. I hate trolls and spammers. Regardless of the content of their posts.

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    An update on what happened at the 21st April event, from Keshe on his forum...

    http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb...2&p=4381#p4381


    Quote On the 21st of the April 2012 in the first international presentation at the Keshe Foundation centre in Belgium, the Foundation did start the full transfer of technologies to world governments.

    The Keshe Foundation through its ethos of world equality did organise and executed the first of its series of presentations of all its technologies for world governments.

    In this first meeting the Keshe Foundation explained and demonstrated and systems were shown and physically given to their government representatives to the ambassadors and the representative of the attending nations.to handle and test.

    In this meeting full operation of systems for all technologies developed by the Foundation were fully explained and most systems were demonstrated for their operation.

    In this invitation all the nations on the United nation charter who could be contacted have been contacted and were invited.

    For this presentation world space organisations the Like of European space agency and NASA were directly spoken to and invited.

    Therefore from 21.4.2012 the Space technology and all Know-how’s of the Keshe Foundation are directly offered and are made available freely for transfer to world governments.

    From this point on it is the responsibility of the nations to bring the space, health, food and the energy discoveries and technologies developed by the Keshe Foundation to their citizens.

    The copy of the invitation letter to world ambassadors in Belgium is attached below and information in the invitation clearly states that our technologies are, will and have been transferred free of charge and without any ties to all nations.

    We invited the ambassadors of the United State of America, ambassadors of the smallest islands nations in carbines to ambassadors of the poorest nations in Africa. Thus we have started the full transfer of technology to all nations irrespective of their size, colour, belief, financial strength and political orientation.

    The second round of the presentation for the nations whom could not attend for whatever reasons will be organised and to be held at the Keshe Foundation centre in September of the 2012.

    Our technology from this point on is in the hand of your nation and from the Holly day of the 21.04.2012 our knowledge has become your nations knowledge and assets.

    We hope that the world nations will use this new knowledge for its peaceful development for the advancement of human race.

    Yours faithfully
    M T Keshe

    The founder of the Keshe Foundation.

    pretty amazing stuff...he has actually given his technology to any government who took the trouble to send representatives. It's easy to be cynical in this day and age with everything that goes on...but I think Keshe has really done a ground-breaking thing. How it will all play out remains to be seen. But he seems to have made a big move and leveled the playing field somewhat...in regards to plasma technology.

    wow


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    Thanks for the embedded video of Keshe technologies... I appreciated hearing yet another, (new to me) effort in this world of energy for the people. I think there are perhaps more than a dozen technologies purported to lift humanity upright, just in time, before world-order gets much worse.

    I understood that the promised tech was withheld, primarily for the smooth transition out of the world chaos. Perhaps to allow governments to finally enact free markets? Would they ever dare try free markets, on a truly level playing field? I wonder. In case market chaos is something controllable, perhaps? The idea that powers that be have a good plan, which needs to be delayed here and there, now and then. To assure it gets no worse than it already is. Or that higher experts of advanced technologies should not interfere with human free will. I wonder about all such claims, with artistic license.

    May life inspire us all in these interesting times. I love the inspiration.

    I just noticed that http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation offers some tech details, more to catch up on there.
    I wish I could agree that keshe was honest. But his attitude is that of a wicked money making guy. As usual god favours the wicked people like Keshe and he is getting a little recognition though the mainstream scientific community is yet to recognise his work as valid. Has Keshes work been accepted by any peer reviewed journal. No. Yet there are enough fools out there who will give money to him to perpetuate his scam. As usual wicked men like him prosper while the poor suffer. What he is doing is not right but that is the kind of world we live in. A world with no rules where evil men like Keshe claim they have something and dont deliver yet get away with it. Really frustrates me when men like Keshe promise something dangling the carrot treating us like donkeys to make money for him.
    Sir or madam: have you actually read any academic journals? Have you ever been apart of the peer review process. Who could have peer reviewed Tesla in his day? In fact, his peers ridiculed him until he proved that they were the idiots. My challenge to you is to pick a journal and then read several volumes of it. Pay special attention to the references lists. You will quickly find that it is all a circlejerk of not pushing human knowledge forward in APA no less!

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    and here's the interview that he did with Kerry on the 18th April...




    Quote This is a cutting edge discussion with Iranian physicist MT Keshe, regarding plasma physics and alternative energy, ufos, and the new paradigm.


    in parts the sound quality is very bad...it really did seem as if there were shenanigans going on...although when they did a redial thing near the end it got better.


    patience and concentration is needed to get through it. But it IS worth it..IMO.


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    I was happy to see Keshe post about the meeting, I had been obsesively checking for an update
    I was disappointed in the lack of detail - who attended (top secret I'm sure) and how it was received - oh to have been a fly on the wall!

    The world has much waiting to do yet, it is quite a mental exercise trying to think about what country will be first to spill the beans, and just how this will be trickled out to the world. My biggest worry is if the presentations don't get the full global attendance and scientific exposure that he anticipated (the last thing we neeed is more fabricated wars to suppress existing technology) There is great genius in the way Keshe is presenting this, and I pray for the sake of the planet and her children that this won't be decades in the unveiling.

    I have posted at his site, but because of his intense hatred of Canadians I certainly try to stay quiet out of respect for his feelings, though I think he needs to accept that his mistreatment in our country was a multi-national effort, and that Canadians as a people are in fact multi-cultural and DEFINITELY no more represented by our secret government exploits than any other country is by theirs ~

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    Kumaran60 has been on a mission to discredit Keshe, under various names, for some time now. See for example this post, by one Kumaran Sanmugathasan, from 2009, who I am confident is the same person. While I admire Kumaran60's persistence and dedication to his task for this long ... it is not an appropriate basis for membership on this forum. His account has been closed.

    Thanks to those who brought this to our attention.
    Did you bother checking IP adresses?













    ..... Or was it just a very good hunch?
    Just read through the comments on the link Paul has provided. It gets quite heavy on page 2 when Keshe himself answers. scroll to the bottom of page 1 when Keshe enters.

    Thanks for the video link guys. Downloading now

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    My update on Keshe (on Wade Frazier's thread)

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post486429

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