Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[justoneman]

Posted by wynderer (here)
from your post, Justoneman :

I can't speak for wynderer, but my guess is that she has had the experiences she has shared with us, they were very real, and that she has not necessarily had any positive ET/ED or astral real or 4th dimension experiences. I take her posts as genuine and honest. Some of us have not had any positive experiences so its sorta hard to "buy into" the positive.

Do you have any positive ET/ED and/or astral realm and/or 4th dimension experiences you might share about? I have yet to hear a single, positive experience in this entire thread and its at 14 pages and many extremely long posts.

yes, i have had many experiences w/other dimensional beings of a positive nature -- i know that the Light is stronger than the dark -- way stronger -- no doubt in my mind

i tend to be very protective of such experiences & not share them

i don't think you'll find any positive experiences on this thread -- the topic right near the center of the evil

i think those of us who have had evil forced into our faces do some spiritual growing up in a hurry

wyn

Very glad to hear that - I have also had positive unexplainable experiences but I have recently been contemplating if the positive is just meant to keep me in "hope" and "faith" which I then act braver and do things I later see as stupid and which I see only provided more loosh. What I am trying to say is - I wonder if we are our OWN ultimate ET/ED which could rise above the need of any other entity. Its like, something in me says - "You know its all about direct connection to source... anything other than that is delusional and is of the world of duality."

When I listen to Inelia... her story... the way she comes across, the way she expresses herself - she has cut through so much BS, indeed never bought into it - like something shielded her from programming - its as if she has no concern in having any essence that "continues" past this life (such as ... I guess a soul that could reincarnate). Think about it - someone who is completely comfortable with their finity and I suspect for that reason, are an infinite being in each and every now moment.

I wish Bill would do more interviews where we could ask her her take on ET/EDs - good and/or bad, etc. But something tells me I already know her response... No words, and a look on her face that says, "Are you really asking me that question?"

[Vivek]

" ... Since the dawn of the space age, man’s dreams have been haunted by strange visions of cigar or saucer shaped aircraft bearing vaguely foetal (or insectoid) passengers who kidnap, brainwash and even impregnate their human captives before erasing their memories and vanishing into the ether.

Like “out of body” experiences or spirit possession, the UFO phenomenon stands as one of those baffling “psychic” anomalies which seems to exist for the sole purpose of mocking human reason. Claims one “victim”:

I woke up in the middle of the night and everything looked odd and strangely lit. At the end of my bed was a 4 feet high grey alien. Its spindly, thin body supported a huge head with two enormous, slanted, liquid black eyes. It compelled me, telepathically, to follow and led me into a spaceship… examination room [where]… I was forced to lie down while they… implanted something in my nose. I could see jars containing half-human, half-alien fetuses and a nursery full of silent, sickly children. When I eventually found myself back in bed, several hours had gone by.3

French astrophysicist Jacques Vallee studied the alien abduction phenomenon for decades, wondering continually at the arbitrary and illogical nature of most such reports. Why do these supposed “wise explorers from the stars” behave so bizarrely? If they have the advanced technology necessary for interstellar travel, why would they use it to visit this planet, let alone kidnap housewives, farmers and convenience store clerks for the purpose of anal probing? Observed Vallee’s mentor, J. Allen Hynek:

To me, it seems ridiculous that super intelligences would travel great distances to do relatively stupid things like stop cars, collect soil samples, and frighten people. I think we must begin to re-examine the evidence. We must begin to look closer to home.4

Vallee’s Rejection of the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis of Alien Contact

Researching hundreds of “contactee” testimonials, folkloric narratives and world mythologies, Vallee eventually concluded that UFOs aren’t what they seem to be. They don’t hail from the Zeta Reticula galaxy, they aren’t here to explore or conduct genetic experiments and their presence on this planet isn’t a recent development at all. Instead, notes Vallee:

Reports of uncanny visitors from the sky have plagued mankind for thousands of years – enough to rule out short-term exploration as a motive.

Witnesses typically describe the “aliens” as humanoid bipeds able to breathe our atmosphere and see in our light spectrum – but wouldn’t genuine extraterrestrials be adapted to a completely different type of environment?

The aliens’ supposedly “scientific” experiments are “crude to the point of being grotesque…. often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation [and] reminiscent of medieval encounters with demons” – not the sort of behaviour we might expect from an advanced civilisation!5

Finally, since UFOs seem able to appear and disappear at will, they are probably “not just a bunch of spacecraft” but instead represent “a much more interesting technology that manipulates dimensions. It manipulates space-time. And if it can do that, then [the aliens could] be from anywhere and anytime.”6

Frustrated with the unquestioned assumptions and cultish insularity of contemporary ufology, Vallee instead suggests three alternatives to the “Extraterrestrial Hypothesis” (EH) based on “second level” readings of the UFO phenomenon – speculative scenarios notable less for what they say about UFOs than about the structure of physical reality itself:

The Inter-Dimensional Hypothesis

One possibility is that aliens are not from another planet, but instead represent “evidence for other dimensions beyond spacetime”7 – extradimensional entities hailing from an uncanny world which overlaps but only occasionally intrudes upon our own, beings from the future (or a perhaps a ghostly copy of our own earth) using “four-dimensional wormholes for space and even time travel”8 through the “multiverse which is all around us.”9

This “multiverse” could consist of parallel worlds existing alongside each other in different dimensions of space, alternate past and future worlds following one another in time, or even computer-generated “virtual worlds” stored in some vast cosmic database (as in the film ‘The Matrix’); if this latter instance is true, hints Vallee, then the seemingly stable and predictable world in which we find ourselves could be a much more magical (or even whimsical) place than we normally realise:

If there is no time dimension as we usually assume there is, [then] the human brain may be traversing events by association… If we live in the associative universe of the software scientists rather than the sequential universe of the spacetime physicist, then miracles are no longer irrational events… [and the] illusion of time and space would be merely a side effect of consciousness as it traverses associations. In such a theory, apparently paranormal phenomena like remote viewing and precognition would be expected, even common, and UFOs would lose much of their bizarre quality…10

The Electromagnetic Connection

Another promising vein of inquiry originates with the work of Dr. Michael Persinger, a cognitive neuroscientist at Laurentian University in Canada whose 1975 “Tectonic Stress Theory” holds that UFOs, out-of-body experiences and mystical visions of saints and angels are the byproducts of electrical microseizures (i.e., epileptic episodes) resulting from exposure to electromagnetic fields generated by shifting plates in the Earth’s crust.

Persinger’s experiments include the construction of the “God helmet,” a specially modified motorcycle helmet which uses weak EM fields to stimulate the parietal and temporal lobes of the brain. Shockingly, almost 80% of the 900 subjects thus tested report altered states of consciousness, visions of God and dead loved ones, and even full-blown alien abductions.11

More radical still is Paul Devereux’s 1989 “Earth Lights” hypothesis, in which UFOs appear as some sort of “previously unrecognised terrestrial phenomenon” (think Will O’ the Wisps) which either rely upon or are attracted to the EM fields generated by seismic stress.

Devereux notes that the strange balls of light which appear and hover near or around earthquake fault lines behave at times almost like “inquisitive animals” and speculates that they may be intelligent “macro-quantal” blobs of plasma energy capable of telepathy, mimicry and hypnosis.12

Both theories in turn anticipate the research of Johnjoe McFadden, an English neuroscientist at the University of Surrey whose Conscious Electromagnetic Field Theory (CEMI) locates human thought outside the wet, grey labyrinth of the brain, identifying it instead with a weak electromagnetic field which surrounds and penetrates the skull.13

If McFadden is correct, then the entire sensory environment we perceive all around us could be nothing more than an extremely sophisticated communications broadcast of some sort – perhaps just one of many “channels” available to the human nervous system.

The Control System Hypothesis

Vallee’s final alternative to the EH is his “Control System” Hypothesis, a fringe view in which aliens (or UFOs) appear as a non-human intelligence closely linked to the Earth, but not bound by it – not little green men from far-flung planets but hallucinatory imps from a dreamlike hyperspace who always seem to appear in just about the form we expect to see them.

Once upon a time these interacted and appeared to us as gods, spirits and angels, accepting sacrifices, sending dreams and inspiring mankind’s great religions; then as fairies, goblins, elves and spirits, spreading fear and wonder in the lives of medieval peasants; and finally as space-faring “greys,” reptilian humanoids and noble “Plaeaidian” scientists, bearing cryptic warnings about the environment and seeding new mythologies for the Information age.

So why have these protean tricksters chosen to visit us? Perhaps Vallee’s most controversial claim is that these mysterious visitors are themselves mere epiphenomena, shadows and reflections of a vast (and very ancient) “control system” which has been operating in the background to manipulate human belief systems since time immemorial, guiding our species towards some unknown purpose. Notes Vallee:

If UFOs are having an action at [the level of myth] it will be almost impossible to detect it by conventional methods… because they are the means by which man’s concepts are being rearranged. All we can do is trace their effect…14

This “control system,” Vallee hypothesises, could represent a projection of the collective unconscious, the activity of an unknown species or even some sort of ecosystemic feedback loop.15

Vallee’s Control System and the Origins of Western Religion
If mankind’s long flirtation with gods, ghosts, goblins and grays is anything to go by, Vallee’s alien “control system” has been with us since the very beginning – and for evidence of its influence, we need look no further than the origins of Abrahamic monotheism.

Take, for example, the story of the Garden of Eden, an eerie tale which – with only a little imagination – can easily be read as a coded account of an alien abduction, an extraterrestrial interlude in which speaking primates are tested for obedience and adaptability:

Omniscient keeper(s) create a man (or remove him?) from the “earth”;

Test subject is anesthetised;

Keepers produce a female specimen supposedly cloned from his “rib”;

Test subjects are placed in a controlled environment and forbidden from eating a certain type of food;

A writhing hologram appears (the “shining serpent”) and encourages them to violate the Keepers’ directives;

Subjects are punished and returned to the wild to digest their encounter.

Now, is this all there is to the story – ancient astronauts tampering with primitive man? Admittedly, that would be incredible if true – but wouldn’t alien scientists have been able to conceal even the most elaborate breeding and colonisation program from a pair of cavemen?

What if the real agenda behind the Eden incident was not creation (or obedience testing) but something else entirely?

Remarks Vallee:

If the phenomenon is forcing us through a learning curve, then it has no choice but to mislead us. When Skinner designs a machine that feeds a rat only when the right lever is depressed, this is extremely misleading for the rat. But if the rat doesn’t depress the correct lever, he becomes extremely hungry. Man is hungry for knowledge and power, and if there is an intelligence behind the UFOs it must have taken this fact into account…16

Perhaps instead of looking at the biblical “Fall” as a failed experiment, we should instead think of it as what Vallee calls an “open control system” – a metalogical labyrinth whose participants “graduate” to the next level when the correct sequence of stimuli are triggered – in this case, eating the “forbidden fruit.”

In other words, “Adam” and “Eve” didn’t fail the test when they ate from the “Tree of Knowledge” – they passed it.

Open Control Systems and Mythological Mashups

This alternate reading of the Eden creation myth is reinforced in the scriptures of the ancient Gnostics, an unorthodox (some say “heretical”) movement in early Christianity that competed with the infant Catholic church for several centuries after the birth of Christ.

Often dismissed as a primitive heresy that fell under the weight of its own obscurantist tendencies, Gnosticism was instead a sophisticated system of occult hermeneutics whose acolytes employed special neurolinguistic trance-inducing techniques to engage in a sort of memetic sabotage, splicing, remixing and mutating of biblical stories in a manner seemingly calculated to cause maximum offense and psychological discomfort. But why? Notes one literary critic:

Drugs, sex, and power control the body, but “word and image locks” control the mind, that is, “lock” us into conventional patterns of perceiving, thinking, and speaking that determine our interactions with environment and society. The cutup is a way of exposing word and image controls and thus freeing oneself from them, an alteration of consciousness that occurs in both the writer and the reader of the text.17

For the Gnostics, the biblical creation stories weren’t divine revelations, but the shattered fragments of a monstrous and malevolent spell – the control system. By rearranging and retelling Judeo-Christian myths, the Gnostics sought clues that might allow them to reprogram creation itself, changing the past, seizing control of the heavens, and overthrowing the phony god of the Bible.

The Gnostic Version(s) of the Eden Myth
In the Gnostic view, Eden was not a paradise, but a jungle laboratory where an opportunistic race of alien parasites conducted a series of bizarre experiments in an attempt to produce a compliant strain of biped slaves.

Banished from the stars at the dawn of time, these “archons” (Greek for “rulers”) fled to the Earth where they abducted a caveman named “Adam” and sexually assaulted his mate “Eve,” implanting both with false (or screen) memories:

When they [the archons] saw Eve speaking with [Adam], they said to one another… “Come, let us seize her and let us cast our seed on her, so that… those whom she will beget will serve us. But let us not tell Adam that she is not derived from us, but let us bring a stupor upon him, and… teach him in his sleep as though she came into being from his rib…18

Feared and worshipped as “gods” and “angels,” the Archons depend for their very existence on the energy captured and siphoned from the human nervous system via various control systems – biological and memetic thermostats which allow them to regulate the flow of information and energy through words and images, pleasure and pain:

They say that the soul is the food of the Archons and Powers without which they cannot live, because she is of the dew from above and gives them strength…19

Adam and Eve “fell” when the archons programmed them with prohibitions and commandments, changing them from primates living in the eternal “now” to “soft machines” – biological automata at war with their own instincts, parasitised by selfish replicators and paralysed by double-binds:

….when the Rulers saw [Adam] and the woman who was with him, erring in ignorance… they rejoiced greatly… They came to Adam… [and] said to him, “Every tree which is in Paradise, whose fruit may be eaten, was created for you. But beware! Don’t eat from the Tree of Knowledge…” [T]hey gave them a great fright….20

Unfortunately for the archons, this strange prohibition seems to have provoked its own violation – for, as the Gnostic scriptures inform us:

[the archons] do not understand what they have said to [Adam]; rather… they said this in such a way that he might in fact eat…21

Pushed to the brink by a mysterious talking serpent, Adam and Eve partook of the fruit and convulsed with ecstasy as the walls of the Garden fell away to reveal the larger world outside the Garden. Like lab rats suddenly lifted out of a maze, Adam and Eve could now perceive their own situation clearly for the very first time:

Then their mind opened. For when they ate… they saw that they were naked, and they became enamoured of one another. When they saw their makers, they loathed them since they were beastly forms. They understood very much…22

Serpent Power Rising

A few more details complete this curious picture: Adam, we learn, was created with “seven souls”23; the “serpent” was actually a “hidden Mother” goddess named “Sophia” who fought against the archons from her secret location inside Adam’s “intestines”(!)24; and finally, when Eve fled from the archons, she took refuge inside the “Tree of Knowledge”25 (in biblical Hebrew, the word for “tree” can also mean “spine.”).

If any of this sounds familiar, it should – for as countless researchers have noted, the entire story seems to be nothing more than an allegorical description of the Kundalini serpent of Buddhist and Hindu yoga:

A Tantric yogi sees the great Mother present within his human body as the Kundalini. She lies hidden by her self-created ignorance, like a snake, coiled and fast asleep… at the bottom of the spinal cord. Through [meditation], the Tantric awakens the Mother and rouses her to go upward… [until he] becomes illumined…26

Theories about the Kundalini Serpent
Frequently misunderstood as an exotic oddity unique to Eastern mysticism, the kundalini instead represents a cross-cultural phenomenon of great antiquity (and plasticity) which (like the UFO phenomenon) has many features in common with OBEs, NDEs, spirit possession and shamanic initiation.

In short, the belief is that the human body possess seven (sometimes more) energy centres called “chakras,” roughly located near or in the anus, genitals, stomach, heart, throat, brow and crest of the skull. Normally clogged with the traumata of everyday life, these “chakras” open when stimulated by a serpentine energy which normally lies sleeping and coiled at the base of the spine.

In dreams, this serpent takes the form of a sleeping goddess who projects the illusion of the world; awakened, she climbs the spine to open the “third eye” at the crown of the head, bringing explosive emotional, psychological and spiritual growth, even ecstasy, enlightenment and the acquisition of occult powers.

Although the scientific study of the kundalini is still in its infancy, there do exist many plausible theories which might some day explain how it works. Here are a few of them:

Reichian/Bioenergetic

Wilhelm Reich was a renegade disciple of Freud’s who discovered a type of libidinal energy called orgone which flows throughout the “seven segments”27 of the body, resembling nothing so much in its “slow undulation[s]” as “the movement of an intestine or snake.”28

In most of us, social and cultural programming cause this elusive life force to become blocked in early childhood so that it pools up in the muscles and hardens into a rigid “body armour.” Thus diverted from life, the stagnant energy becomes a machine-like parody of itself which stunts and distorts human emotions, turning healthy expressions of love and sexuality into addiction, resentment and fear.

In the long term, the suffocating obstacles imposed by this invisible exoskeleton cause untold misery by exacerbating the mind/body split and creating the conditions necessary for the emergence of cancer (in individuals) and fascism (in societies).

Unimpressed with the slow pace and ineffectiveness of traditional talk therapy, Reich favoured a direct, hands-on approach designed to weaken the body armour itself. Over time, Reich and his followers found that unplanned events of great emotional intensity could trigger the orgone to ascend through the seven body segments spontaneously, purging vast reserves of repressed emotional energy and causing the body to vibrate uncontrollably as the noxious “body armour” crumbled once and for all.

Mechanical

Czech inventor Itzhak Bentov dedicated years to the study of human consciousness, eventually developing what is today known as the “holographic model” of the human brain.

In Bentov’s view, the “kundalini experience” is primarily a mechanical phenomenon which arises when the brain begins to vibrate in sympathetic resonance with the heartbeat (7.5 hz), releasing terrific amounts of stored musculoskeletal stress as the nervous system is temporarily transformed into a polarised loop.

This in turn causes the spinal column to oscillate like a tuning fork, allowing it to receive and transmit information directly from the ionosphere – the same part of the atmosphere responsible for bouncing electromagnetic waves back to Earth.29

The Pineal Gland and the Third Eye

Finally, former New Mexico University psychiatrist Rick Strassman hypothesises that kundalini yoga somehow stimulates the pineal gland to secrete larger than normal amounts of naturally-occurring DMT into the brain – making it the true “third eye.”30

DMT is a powerful hallucinogen, also found in ayahuasca, the “vine of souls” used by Amazonian shamans to induce mystical visions; the pineal gland, meanwhile, has its own surprising analog in the photosensitive “third eye” found in many species of reptiles, a vestigial organ with full lens and retina buried under the skin in the centre of the forehead.31

The connections to biblical myth here are many and obvious, so what does it all mean?

Seeking to understand the roots of human religious experience, Strassman injected over 60 volunteers with high doses of DMT, conducting over 400 such sessions from 1990-1995; perhaps unsurprisingly, just over half his test subjects reported blissful visions of timeless, cosmic unity, communion with benevolent deities and “classic near-death experiences” which included flying through tunnels of “radiant light.”32

The other 47% were not so lucky, reporting nightmarish beings drawn straight from the twilight horror-world of the Gnostic counter-Eden: menacing “clowns, elves [and] robots” who threatened and even attacked their human victims. Strassman finally ended his experiments ahead of schedule when one of his subjects reported being “eaten alive” by giant insects.

Dragons in the Darkness

Strassman’s findings here echo the eerie experiences of Michael Harner, an American anthropologist who penetrated the Amazon rainforest forty years earlier to experiment with the “vine of souls” potion himself.

Harner reported seeing “giant reptilian creatures” dwelling in and around his own brain stem, “dragon-like” beings from deep space who colonised the Earth millennia ago; chillingly, these dark beings claimed to have seeded the Earth with life for the sole purpose of creating various host species they could hide themselves in.

“I learned that the dragon-like creatures were thus inside of all forms of life, including man,” claims Harner. “They were the true masters of humanity and the entire planet, they told me. We humans were but [their] receptacles and servants…”33

True to form, when Harner demanded an explanation from the medicine man who gave him the potion responsible for this ominous vision, the old man just laughed and explained that, “…they’re always saying that. But they are only the Masters of Outer Darkness…”34

Conclusion

Clearly Harner is speaking here of beings very much like the archons of Gnostic myth or the manipulative “greys” of modern Ufology – but are these entities nothing more than symbolic projections of the reptilian brain, as Harner’s narrative seems to imply?

Do aliens and archons hail from outer space or inner space? Why is “contact” with aliens (or archons) so often accompanied by vibrations or tremors, either muscular or tectonic? How should we think about the “serpent” now that we know it is probably a dormant evolutionary mechanism of some sort? And are the “big three” Abrahamic religions of Islam, Judaism and Christianity really nothing more than hallucinatory control mechanisms employed by alien parasites to enslave and manipulate us?

German Historian Klaus Theweleit has written what would seem to be the last possible word on the subject, noting that:

…[T]he ‘fall of man’ depicts a failed revolution from the victor’s standpoint. For attempting to put into practice their slogan ‘Our bodies belong to us,’ the rebels were sentenced to a life of forced labor… ‘Your bodies belong to your Ruler!’ – that was the response. (The ‘paradise’ they were driven out of was the blissful state of being ruled without realising it. Even today, being driven out of ‘paradise’ is the penalty for trying to create a paradise.)35

Whether the Eden story is really about UFOs or the kundalini, and whether such phenomena are..."

Full article can be read here:

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/artic...ative-universe

[Vivek]

I didn't see much published on the thread from Dr. Hynek, I hope I'm not re-posting (I searched through the PDF and couldn't find anything on him.)

EDIT: I deleted the speech he gave to the United Nations - I though he talked about the EDI (extra-dimensional intelligence) hypothesis in it a little more in depth, but I was wrong.

Anyways, here is more information on him from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek

[Vivek]

Here is a follow up on this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post482393

Now, with the Archons in mind (no pun intended), read this:

The Enochian Apocalypse by Donald Tyson (it's about a 30 min. read +/- 10 min.)

It also ties in directly with the themes brought forth in the video posted here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post482423

If this thread was a novel, the aforementioned video would be it's cinematic adaptation (in many ways/more or less).

[wynderer]

bumping Houman's OP -- some real 'secret knowledge' all thru this thread -- & another link to the video Vivek just posted --

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atxGNYrBftI

Posted by Houman (here)
from

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/mil...-ra/#more-1095



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She also admits that there are many alien races who are like us in their search for divine spiritual truths, and who are also, misled via many corrupted religious beliefs which ultimately can be traced back to the same Satanic-Archontic-Parasitic game plan. She admits there are some aliens who are more spiritually attuned just like there are some humans who are more enlightened than the average mass consciousness. It is not a black and white picture, but there are some basic truths, which are being kept secret from the masses. The most guarded secrets behind the aliens, New World Order agenda and the parasitic Archontic game plan revolves around the combination of satanic psychic vampirism and high technology. This high technology has also been referred to as black meta-technology because it combines elements of ritual black magic, nano technology, mind control; genetic manipulation and alien implant technology. Truly a soul oppressing combination and in my view, a great threat to humanity. Unless, of course, we wake up and start taking responsibility for our own freedom.

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Somebody (aliens and the creators of the aliens) under the motto “Divide et impera”, has broke the Consciousness into 3 parts:

- the Mind (more similar to the conscious mind)

- the Spirit (” ” to the subconscious mind)

- the Soul (” ” more similar to the unconscious mind)

2) In the case of the abductees, these 3 consciousnesses do not know each other, do not talk to each other and often they don’t even know who they are and why they are here.

Essentially there is a “soul disconnect” with unrecovered abductees.(EL-This can be understood as a type of dissociation from disconnected aspects of themselves.) This disconnect is facilitated by various alien technologies such as implants, alien parasites, mind control programming and trauma. This disconnect facilitates the aliens usage of their soul energy, much like how a water main has been pilfered by attaching various hoses and pipes to divert the flow from the water main.

3) In case of the abductees, most of the time the Soul consciousness believes it is a slave of the aliens, looks upon them as gods and is afraid of them.

According to Dr. Malanga, the cure for the abduction phenomena is to get the Soul to remember who she/it is– a sovereign entity upon which aliens have no right. The body must be cleaned up of parasites and implants. Soul, Mind and Spirit have to know each other and they have to unify into one single and sovereign Consciousness. This process was noted to bring unexpected coherence into the psyche of the persona.

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In one of Maarit’s experiences with her 5-year-old son, they both remember being placed in an enclosed machine with deep red lights and pulsating sound. Her son remembered long needles being inserted into him. She believes this pulsating sound and light instrument had to do with cloning in some fashion, and recognized similarities in her and her sons experiences, as those events described in Ted Rice’s abduction testimony, written in the late Dr. Karla Turner’s book, Masquerade of Angels (Keltworks, 1995) One of Ted’s abduction memories involved a small black box that was used to transfer his astral body consciousness from his original body into a cloned version of himself. Maarit told me that one of the reasons they use the black box, is so that the human spirit consciousness does not disperse and go elsewhere, and instead is trapped and directed into cloned bodies or stored until transferred to where the aliens want to place the astral body consciousness. Maarit believes this black box technology is also key to the aliens “soul recycling” technology, which entraps human souls to be born into bodies chosen for that person.

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I corresponded with Dorica Manu, colleague of Dr. Corrado Malanga regarding the Horus-Ra entity. She said, “In Italy we used this notation because the Ra entity operates in a transdimensional body that looks like a very tall birdlike body, similar to the Egyptian god Horus. This bird-like body is not a cyborg, but it seems to be the body of a decayed humanoid race from Orion. So, the transdimensional form is Horus, the dark entity within is Ra. It is in actuality nothing more than a black shadow or dot.” According to Dr. Malanga, Ra is a dark entity coming from another Universe, a universe archetypally situated behind our universe. There is dark out there, no physical bodies, no light, no love, no souls. This Ra entity places implants on the tailbone, below the sacrum, from where he hangs on to the abductee’s body, parasiting the persona and performing a perverse type of mind control. Ra may come and go to his liking.

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Could this dark universe that is archetypally behind ours be what the ancient Gnostics described as the “Outer Darkness”?

The mention of the “shadow beings” beneath the various forms reminded me of a statement made by one of my former Milab female interviewees named Lilu. (http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/mil...-pandoras-box/)

She stated that it is the Shadows who are behind the reptilians and other colluding–parasite aliens and that these beings are the ones we need to be concerned with. Maarit told me that this black dot shadow is a different kind of energy within the energy body. A presence. She also said that most reptilians and draconians are in line and united with that “shadow energy”. Maarit explains,

“I am able to recognize the Ra energy everywhere and maintain my inner coherence. So in my opinion, the Ra level of universal existence is the level of the so-called Archons, not the minor reptilians, greys or draconians. Ra is the level, which eats the conscious awareness, and we have to bypass it in order to merge into higher realms of existence. The more important thing to focus on is not the origin of Ra in its different forms, but to see the patterns of behavior this Ra has. It truly enslaves. Like seen in cult activity. Ra enjoys the essence of the egotistical uplift.“ Maarit emphatically stated,

“The purpose the Horus-Ra energy force is not only to consume humans and other species as well–their inner core–but also destroy the purity of it. It wants people to forget the ultimate reality and connection to God. In every way this is true. And it goes with other races as well. Most of them are as lost as humans. Some are awakened like some humans are, too. That is why these New Age movements are so dangerous–they are a straight portal for these darker forces to manifest. They make people to compete who are the most spiritually gifted, most knowledgeable, who have more healing/psychic powers etc., and make the whole scam revolve around human ego, which becomes the source for the ego of the evil itself. So it’s no coincidence Jesus said: do not worship pictures/idols of god and one must leave the material behind in order to follow the route to God. The God is within. So that’s why there is so much ritual performances within the NWO network. The secretive “occult” energy makes the evil stronger, gives these people feeling of specialty and power. It corrupts the purity.”

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I find that our tendency is to become distracted by the entertainment aspect of Ufology, rather than the spiritual-mental evolutionary implications of what befalls us with this alien interference. We love to dance in the distractions, but this diverts our own awareness regarding the power of our innate divinity. I believe the ancient Gnostics were well aware of this “Archontic Control” over humanity. (aka–”The Hypostasis of the Archons or Reality of the Rulers”, (II,4) Tractate in the Nag Hammadi Library) The Gnostics, in their wisdom they tell of what the signature of the Archons is: envy. This was the key human failing that makes us more vulnerable to their intrusion. But they did not leave us without hope for a solution. If we take on the protection of the Light, and rid ourselves of jealousy, then we enter the bridal chamber. (Lash’s Alien Dreaming article, excerpt from quote regarding Dialogue of the Savior, NHC III, 5 (85)

Could the humans involved with the Satanic New World Order be hosted by this same black shadow Horus-Ra energy? Is this what the Archontic influence truly is—and what the ancient Gnostics warned us about?

The archontic mode of parasitism reminds me of certain themes in a popular science fiction television series known as Stargate SG-1. The Gould are a malevolent race of beings represented by ancient Egyptian falcon and jackal headed Gods. When one is taken over by the Gould, they receive a snake like symbiote inserted into their spinal column, and from then on, they are “hosts” for the Gould’s dark Gods. Did the writers of such Sci Fi TV shows know something about what is really going on within the deep dark elements of the Illuminati, NWO, and their ancient Egyptian alien gods? It made me wonder. Abductees and milabs did not make this up!

[Vivek]

The JINN [DJINN]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW7hvMe9Sa8

Sand and sugar...

[justoneman]

For me - there are perhaps two physical world realities - the blissful, all is love and light world and the world I hear on this thread referred to as the "Gnostic" view (though I do not share this opinion that it is the full extent of the Gnostic view).

I don't like to talk about the miracles I have experienced because it leads to the question, "why have you been so special, justoneman" and yet I found it pretty easy to talk about my (possible abduction) "experience." When I ask myself why is it easy to talk about the negative experiences, the answer I get is that "I am seeking validation that since I have had those experiences I have the right to say the practices of satanists that perform sacrifice (animal and human) is wrong, even if the actual practitioners are controlled by demons/aliens." "And that since we (those of us who do not participate) but are aware of these practices and don't do anything about it makes us possibly in some way complicit." "And so unless we accept/condone our possible complicity we only have one other choice and that is to do something about it."

OK so the big "what" to do is next asked but let's don't go there - let's look at the question.

Is this true to anyone else, that we either a.) accept/condone or b.) we do something to stop it?

Please, anyone... is there a c.) and/or a d.) etc?

Again, is knowing it is going on and not doing anything to stop it being a passive participant and thus condoning the practice?

It is my view there's likely no difference between a practicing alcoholic and a practicing of human sacrifice satanist.

Is intervention by family members right for an alcoholic?

Is that violation of the "law of free will?"

If we answer Yes it's OK to intervene for an alcoholic, and no one declares, "it violates the law of free will," does this extend to the practice of human and/or animal sacrifice?

We can look at the what can be done later - I would love to see what the Avalon posters here would answer to each of my above questions. We keep circling the wagons but that's where we stop.

justonewonderer

[Ernie Nemeth]

Oh my great good God.

And I thought I shocked with my The cost of fat thread.
This is atrocious and should have come with a disclaimer and warning.
I did not need the horrible visuals.

Just like CBC, when they say Tori Staford was killed...and raped - on the front banner! Killed is enough. The raped part is superfluous.

I pray, right now, here:
Oh God please protect all those that read this thread from the horrible effects of these monstrous deeds. Let them not be over-riden by the demonic forces of the overlords and their minions.
Uncord our heros and sheild them from the evil doers and their lackeys. This I pray in Lord Jesus' name, the saints, and most especially the Earth Mother Gaia!
Thank you for hearing my prayer.
And it is so.

[seigiarchon]

Posted by Houman (here)

15. (e) Their Prison.

Involving a net to trap the spirits of high vibration people

I have this net and am destined for their prison. I have clearly seen what it is like in this prison and it is a hell beyond anything you could imagine. I have evidence for the connections they use and I am gaining more and more evidence and information whilst I have this connection. I really want them to disconnect me, it makes sense for everybody and it will be out of my mind.

It has all been brought about by the reptilian entity, Ettissh connected to me and lying to Brian. This is how he did it. I am not a higher consciousness worker, I am interested in this area but as a sideline. I am not their criteria and I certainly didn't set Brian's implant off. But there was Ettissh who just was nasty and wanted me to be connected to that prison from day 1. In fact it happened two weeks after I was told who Brian was, nothing else had been told me at that point. I had stopped doing the meditation course, I was certainly under attack and wouldn't be considering meditating. I was in a state of emergency, running from Brian. However I had this reptilian entity, as described in section 6, who was communicating with me and instructing me to fight Brian off with meditation tapes, so he told me that when Brian, that is Brian's reptilian being was present with me I could fight him off by doing a meditation tape at the same time. Therefore I did this and at times only instructed by the reptilian, these were quite absurd times. Unfortunately Brian was angered by the arrogance that I could fight him off by meditating and not only this it looked like I was very, very into higher consciousness. It had all been set up by the entity and Brian was really worked on to add the net. He did this and this was a very bad mistake, 1 found out after about 8 months and quite a bit before I had learnt any information and I kept asking Brian over and over to disconnect me but he never did and I certainly had no information what so ever, he never did because of the lies of the reptilian entity

So now I explain to you more about their system for imprisoning spirits.

This is unique information. As I said in the introduction highly conscious people are unliked by the reptilians. They see what is really going on, they help out and they help out as spirits as well, they reincarnate back and lead the way such as becoming spiritual leaders. To prevent these people doing any of this the reptilians have started a diabolical practice of attaching a net to those they identify. This net traps the spirit upon death to be held in a prison indefinitely. This Practice surely is fundamentally wrong as it destroys the soul. I It is interesting that Jesus warned in the Bible. 6 "Fear not them which kill the body but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear them which is able to destroy both the soul and body in hell" (Matt. 10:28.)

I have this net and it has been seen by many sources and appears red. I have had an appointment with Stewart Swerdlow who has written the book Montauk, the alien connection 7 and who sees auric fields, he identified a web in my energy field going to a satellite, I assume this must be the net He was recruited by the government who used and enhanced his natural abilities. He confirmed part of my knowledge by saying that yes my consciousness could be taken when I die. He has written about how his consciousness was taken upon the death of his last life and implanted into a foetus of government choosing. My fate I know is not going to be any more lives.

This is what Ettissh has said about this procedure:



E- yes we trap people and store them in our vaults that would otherwise have helped out....and then we're going to do them in permanently. Our machine will do it all - its going to explode their energy so they are no more.

Q- what are these vaults?

E- it's like a force field that keeps you static, your being, and it's near our machine isn't it - its a hellhole - your feel like your in no-mans land, stuck solid.

Q- how many are trapped?

E- a lot - we have a reasonable capacity, that's why we need to destroy you quite soon - I don't know when its going to happen - it isn't just yet.

Q - what happens to the person if you release them?

E - they're be alright - go on their way won't they

Q - Whom have you got there?

E- Krishnamurti, , Gandhi, spiritual leaders that have passed away and loads more

Q- did you cord Krishnamurti up?

E-we got him.

To back this up I first need to establish that the reptilians have spirit technology. Evidence for this is their abilities to take over a human spirit as they do when they exist in a human body. I experienced through their astral projection (described earlier) both Brian's Reptilian spirit (at the time I did not know what it was) and his human spirit and yet the reptilian was the one in charge, mentally it seemed to be the only one there. It seems that they are joined at the mental level. So they can technologically join a human and reptilian spirit. My second evidence is the Dulce Underground base worker4 who described alien run experiments at the base and stated that 'they know how to separate the bioplasmic body from the physical body to place an alien entity life-force matrix within a human body after removing the "soul" life-force matrix of the human." The life-force matrix would I assume be the spirit. So it seems they have spirit technology as we have technology at the level of DNA and genes producing genetically modified foods.

The spirit technology that they are using and which has been done to me involves attaching connections to the chakras and meridians and in particular the mental body; the energy system of the human spirit. These could be called cords although they are much stronger than cords , they are fifth dimensional. Ettissh has described them as in fact physical we just can't see them, energy for them is used as physical. I know from the weapons I have received that they are masters of energy and I suspect that the net is energetic and it certainly is very strong, strong enough to hold a spirit. The cords form a permanent net; there are a large number of cords. This net remains with the spirit when the body dies and tightens when the person leaves their body, it hauls the spirit to their machines and where the spirit is suspended indefinitely, tightened by all the cords in a static state, like Ettissh describes. There are a million spirits on earth with this net awaiting this to happen. How can they store so many spirits? I believe that there are hundreds of miles of space below their machines and storage is like I have pictured.

I have tried removing the central one to my crown with an energy worker who has seen them. It was like the toughest steel we could not touch it. He also found many, many smaller cords attached to my energy and identified these cords as alien, he said 33rd level energy. I at the time had no idea that it was even there nor made any mention of alien involvement.

The reality of this for me is horrendous. As a spirit you are fully conscious and will be as you are now with thoughts, emotions. You will not be able to go to the light as all of us do. I have experienced being a spirit when I almost died after one of Brian's weapons, I felt as I do now as I looked down on my dying body and began to review my life. I and others with these cords will be suspended in a nothingness and forever and fully conscious, desperately wanting to leave but not being able to. It is an absolute hell.

There will be sobbing, indescribable loneliness, fury, excruciating pain inside. I will be in a worse position to others as I will have no hope, for others their hope will be maybe at any moment they will be freed. It is like being pushed out of a space ship and left in space permanently like in the sci-fi movies. What would be going through your mind? Panic, trying to get out, like a bear that is chained in a small cage for its life and goes mad, exhibiting repeated movements, in such torment. I now have to live with this knowledge similar to seeing a clairvoyant and being shown your future death, tortuous and maybe at any moment. I need to be clear that I have strong intentions to prolong my life as long as I can so I have less time there. I have seen it in perspective, another 50 years of possible happiness on earth and then 400 years or more of this torture. Any life is better than dying that's what I now believe. So I want to prolong my life for as long as I possibly can.

How can my ex-boyfriend possibly want this for me,? I was in his bed and he knew I was going to this hell and could have removed it. ! I had the net at this time but I didn't realise, at any time I could have gone there and he knew and did nothing. When I found out I told him and pleaded with him and even then he wouldn't remove them, I believe he gets a point from his organization every time he attaches the net. What a diabolical creep!. Even worse is that Brian, attached this net to me and then the next day tried to kill me with one of his weapons, it's disgusting we were still romantically involved. He has no scruples anything to earn a point.

Many of our spiritual leaders are there now and Ettissh has named some!

Further evidence I have for this net is energy workers have found toxic energy coming through he attachment to my crown and down the meridians (energy lines) of my arms. I had hardly noticed this though. Other evidence I have for the hell I am going to is I meditate by visualizing my life as a book, the ending is now always black lead with a blood curdling feel to it. Capt Bill Robertson writes about weapons used on highly conscious people by these aliens and I wonder whether he was being subjected to the toxic energy and such like that can be sent down these attachments. He would certainly have been of a high enough vibration, the rogue reptilian has also told me that the net can cause harm to those of a high vibration in their current life as follows :





E - "we'll come down on you like a ton of bricks - if we choose to"

This was said as a possibility for the future.

These nets are attached to their machines Ettissh explains it as follows -



E - "our machine is really incredible; it's programmed to respond to things ,it can sense energy , if you become to high or enlightened then it will start ****ing you up - it will send you **** via the cord and then it brings you down and then it stops as long as you don't creep up again - keeps you checked --and it rises and falls. They get the crap, feel like **** and then it brings them down. It stops, they rise again and it starts again - every few days they get it."

In my case Brian has set the machine extra low so I am more likely to be harmed through the attachments!



E - it isn't that high -not with you, to stop you rising up -Brian dropped the stakes - the machine hasn't noticed a thing - we normally don't set it as low as we did with you. It is so really low with you your bound to get it at some point in your life. They don't know what he's done - they don't know he has set it so low. He adjust the machine.

This procedure they are doing on mass to those of a high vibration, He told me that Brian is actively seeking out therapists, as they are more likely to be enlightened or near that level in order to attach them, a he tells me that Brian has down these attachments to another recently - a Spanish healer, well known in the area amongst the Spanish, a lady in her fifties who lives just outside Marbella. I do not know her name. Brian saw her for his back complaint in august 2003 and she may now be physically ill.

What a load of BS. If their anti-consciousness spirit net is as powerful as the entities claim to be, why haven't they prevented scores of highly conscious buddhist lamas and other spiritual figures from reincarnating time and time again on Earth?

Their spirit net is only powerful enough to capture low-frequency souls. This I can believe.

And I know some thai shamans who can capture souls with magick.

But no one can capture a highly evolved soul cos the higher your soul is, the more powerful it is and no amount of technology or magick can trap such a soul.

There are millions and millions of soul gathering angels you know.

[seigiarchon]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Oh my great good God.

And I thought I shocked with my The cost of fat thread.
This is atrocious and should have come with a disclaimer and warning.
I did not need the horrible visuals.

Just like CBC, when they say Tori Staford was killed...and raped - on the front banner! Killed is enough. The raped part is superfluous.

I pray, right now, here:
Oh God please protect all those that read this thread from the horrible effects of these monstrous deeds. Let them not be over-riden by the demonic forces of the overlords and their minions.
Uncord our heros and sheild them from the evil doers and their lackeys. This I pray in Lord Jesus' name, the saints, and most especially the Earth Mother Gaia!
Thank you for hearing my prayer.
And it is so.

The demons can only trap unevolved, low-frequency souls. Souls like those people suffering in Africa would come to mind because first of all, the Africans are already subjected to countless physical abuses like war and famine. Secondly, lots of Africans are uneducated thus their mind isn't strong enough to fight off the nets.

If there is really a major theft of souls going on, do you think the Creator and Archangels are going to sit idly by?

A few souls may be stolen but these souls are the really lowly craven ones. For eg, someone who practice satanism widely would be more vulnerable to such thefts than the average pious man.

Stop making mountains out of molehills.

[Flash]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Oh my great good God.

And I thought I shocked with my The cost of fat thread.
This is atrocious and should have come with a disclaimer and warning.
I did not need the horrible visuals.

Just like CBC, when they say Tori Staford was killed...and raped - on the front banner! Killed is enough. The raped part is superfluous.

I pray, right now, here:
Oh God please protect all those that read this thread from the horrible effects of these monstrous deeds. Let them not be over-riden by the demonic forces of the overlords and their minions.
Uncord our heros and sheild them from the evil doers and their lackeys. This I pray in Lord Jesus' name, the saints, and most especially the Earth Mother Gaia!
Thank you for hearing my prayer.
And it is so.

The demons can only trap unevolved, low-frequency souls. Souls like those people suffering in Africa would come to mind because first of all, the Africans are already subjected to countless physical abuses like war and famine. Secondly, lots of Africans are uneducated thus their mind isn't strong enough to fight off the nets.

If there is really a major theft of souls going on, do you think the Creator and Archangels are going to sit idly by?

A few souls may be stolen but these souls are the really lowly craven ones. For eg, someone who practice satanism widely would be more vulnerable to such thefts than the average pious man.

Stop making mountains out of molehills.

I was kind of with you until you described the "weakness of the African soul". Don't you know that suffering sharpen the soul? Don't you know that great beingd will go where suffering is intense in order to help - and they are not necessarily whites from an abundant country. Unles you or I are great masters ourselves, we should not dare evaluating the qualiy of souls on prejudices and false concepts. Imho.

[seigiarchon]

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by seigiarchon (here)

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Oh my great good God.

And I thought I shocked with my The cost of fat thread.
This is atrocious and should have come with a disclaimer and warning.
I did not need the horrible visuals.

Just like CBC, when they say Tori Staford was killed...and raped - on the front banner! Killed is enough. The raped part is superfluous.

I pray, right now, here:
Oh God please protect all those that read this thread from the horrible effects of these monstrous deeds. Let them not be over-riden by the demonic forces of the overlords and their minions.
Uncord our heros and sheild them from the evil doers and their lackeys. This I pray in Lord Jesus' name, the saints, and most especially the Earth Mother Gaia!
Thank you for hearing my prayer.
And it is so.

The demons can only trap unevolved, low-frequency souls. Souls like those people suffering in Africa would come to mind because first of all, the Africans are already subjected to countless physical abuses like war and famine. Secondly, lots of Africans are uneducated thus their mind isn't strong enough to fight off the nets.

If there is really a major theft of souls going on, do you think the Creator and Archangels are going to sit idly by?

A few souls may be stolen but these souls are the really lowly craven ones. For eg, someone who practice satanism widely would be more vulnerable to such thefts than the average pious man.

Stop making mountains out of molehills.

I was kind of with you until you described the "weakness of the African soul". Don't you know that suffering sharpen the soul? Don't you know that great beingd will go where suffering is intense in order to help - and they are not necessarily whites from an abundant country. Unles you or I are great masters ourselves, we should not dare evaluating the qualiy of souls on prejudices and false concepts. Imho.

I measure souls by their evolution not by their race or their wealth.

With that said, a soul who is subject to much abuse, physical, mental, psychological, psychic, spiritual or otherwise, is more vulnerable to abductions than a soul which is not.

I am not saying all african souls are low frequency souls but the very nature of their environment makes it that much harder for the souls living in Africa to evolve and raise their vibrations.

Africans who grew up in Europe for eg wouldn't suffer as much as the africans living in africa because living conditions and education in Europe are much better.

Similarly, a Caucasian living in Africa and subjected to the same abuses would have the same difficulties evolving their souls.

Tis the environment which shapes the evolution of a soul and not the race of the soul itself. Reread my posts again.

[Flash]

.[/QUOTE]

I measure souls by their evolution not by their race or their wealth.

With that said, a soul who is subject to much abuse, physical, mental, psychological, psychic, spiritual or otherwise, is more vulnerable to abductions than a soul which is not.

I am not saying all african souls are low frequency souls but the very nature of their environment makes it that much harder for the souls living in Africa to evolve and raise their vibrations.

.[/QUOTE]

thanks for the raceless measurement of souls. This eases my spirit. However, lets remind us of Mandela who lived his life in prison in very tough circumstances, what a great being. Lets think of Gandhi who was very poor, willingly, what a great being. You know, breatharian exist as well and they are all spiritually oriented. What I am trying to say is that flowers may grow in very infertile lands as welll. It is the average soul that cannot resist in infertile lands, not the great ones.

[seigiarchon]

Posted by Flash (here)
.

I measure souls by their evolution not by their race or their wealth.

With that said, a soul who is subject to much abuse, physical, mental, psychological, psychic, spiritual or otherwise, is more vulnerable to abductions than a soul which is not.

I am not saying all african souls are low frequency souls but the very nature of their environment makes it that much harder for the souls living in Africa to evolve and raise their vibrations.

.[/QUOTE]

thanks for the raceless measurement of souls. This eases my spirit. However, lets remind us of Mandela who lived his life in prison in very tough circumstances, what a great being. Lets think of Gandhi who was very poor, willingly, what a great being. You know, breatharian exist as well and they are all spiritually oriented. What I am trying to say is that flowers may grow in very infertile lands as welll. It is the average soul that cannot resist in infertile lands, not the great ones.[/QUOTE]

The game has come to a point where it is useless to participate in sado-machoistic games where one intentionally heap suffering oneself just to prove to others how "strong" your soul is.

Only victory matters, the rest matters .. NOT.

[Houman]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
The demons can only trap unevolved, low-frequency souls. Souls like those people suffering in Africa would come to mind because first of all, the Africans are already subjected to countless physical abuses like war and famine. Secondly, lots of Africans are uneducated thus their mind isn't strong enough to fight off the nets.

How to say this... I have lived with Africans, Europeans, Chinese, Iranians and Americans and your statement is quite shocking to me... spiritual evolution is not necessarily correlated with academic education (examples abound) and most africans are actually spiritually "healthier" those living in societies engineered by satanists...

Do you know that 1 in 5 Americans are on psychiatric drugs
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/1...hiatric-drugs/
American children are now given psy drugs at school http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...99239524875493
this is the sign of an insane society. It is actually the american people who are suffering most from this demonic attack... and they have been under spiritual and chemical attack for a long time (the chemical attack has gotten so bad that 1 out of 88 children suffer from autism http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8ET3NZ20120329)


One African friend once told me that he viewed Europeans as monsters because of their lack of compassion towards their own parents (in Europe and US people leave their parents to die alone in "retirement houses" in Africa they are respected as living libraries surrounded by their children and grandchildren)


the sign of a society under spiritual attack is not this

but this


Do you know that Switzerland, the wealthiest country of Europe has also the highest suicide rate amongst its teenagers? Something is very wrong with this picture...

[wynderer]

thanks, Houman -- i've noticed, going thru some of the older threads re abductions, that the same suggestion re Africans being somehow inferior was being subtly introduced into threads here & there ...

the photo of that big fat man -- a very common sight here in the States --

in another post i mentioned that James Bartley told me that meth addiction opens one's soul to Reptilian intervention/overshadowing [my term]

i have also been trying to tell people that there are soon going to be mass deaths, w/many souls being suddenly projected out of their 3D bodies all at once -- there will be great confusion -- 'chaos' in the astral plane /4D --

many traps have been laid for the unwary, which is most Humans -- & many collective traps -- very effective w/Humans being herd/tribe animals

there is a war for souls going on

wyn

Posted by Houman (here)

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
The demons can only trap unevolved, low-frequency souls. Souls like those people suffering in Africa would come to mind because first of all, the Africans are already subjected to countless physical abuses like war and famine. Secondly, lots of Africans are uneducated thus their mind isn't strong enough to fight off the nets.

How to say this... I have lived with Africans, Europeans, Chinese, Iranians and Americans and your statement is quite shocking to me... spiritual evolution is not necessarily correlated with academic education (examples abound) and most africans are actually spiritually "healthier" those living in societies engineered by satanists...

Do you know that 1 in 5 Americans are on psychiatric drugs
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/1...hiatric-drugs/
American children are now given psy drugs at school http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...99239524875493
this is the sign of an insane society. It is actually the american people who are suffering most from this demonic attack... and they have been under spiritual and chemical attack for a long time (the chemical attack has gotten so bad that 1 out of 88 children suffer from autism http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8ET3NZ20120329)


One African friend once told me that he viewed Europeans as monsters because of their lack of compassion towards their own parents (in Europe and US people leave their parents to die alone in "retirement houses" in Africa they are respected as living libraries surrounded by their children and grandchildren)


the sign of a society under spiritual attack is not this

but this


Do you know that Switzerland, the wealthiest country of Europe has also the highest suicide rate amongst its teenagers? Something is very wrong with this picture...

[Houman]

Posted by wynderer (here)
i have also been trying to tell people that there are soon going to be mass deaths, w/many souls being suddenly projected out of their 3D bodies all at once -- there will be great confusion -- 'chaos' in the astral plane /4D --

many traps have been laid for the unwary, which is most Humans -- & many collective traps -- very effective w/Humans being herd/tribe animals

there is a war for souls going on

wyn

Yes many elements are pointing towards that direction, you should elaborate on that if you have first hand experience...
Houman

[Houman]

http://www.whale.to/b/human_sacrifice.html




A ceremonial offering of Aztec sacrificial knife blades at the National Museum of Anthropology in Mexico City.

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http://www.whale.to/b/moloch_s.htm
Molech was the Canaanite version of the Egyptian god Set. The god Set was a homosexual god of evil. He was worshipped during ceremonies that involved human sacrifice, cannibalism and homosexual orgies. As the god of destruction, he became the god of the Egyptian military. In ancient Rome, he was worshipped as the god Saturn by the Roman military (often with baptism by blood). Thus we see that Satan (Set, Saturn, Molech etc.) was worshipped by Solomon and his wives as he grew old and senile. This involved heterosexual sex orgies (Ashteroth), homosexual sex orgies (Baal, Set, Satan, Molech), human sacrifice (Molech) and even cannibalism (Set, Molech). Our modern high-level military leadership appears to have the same values as the ancients. Our Military Ruling Classes: Part 1 Kay Griggs explains: See the Kay Griggs files for more on how the Occult Illuminati have taken over our Military Leadership at the Highest Levels! Also, see the "Franklin Cover-up"" http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...58#post1252558

Moloch was always associated with the Bull God. Why? The Bull God has ALWAYS been associated with "Ba'al". In fact, in HEbrew there are no "vowels" so it's really just the same word.."B'l"..means BULL! http://memes.org/abraham-amp-oil-god...l-us-quotvquot

Moloch was represented as a huge bronze statue with the head of a bull. The statue was hollow, and inside there burned a fire which colored the Moloch a glowing red. Children were placed on the hands of the statue. Through an ingenious system the hands were raised to the mouth (as if Moloch were eating) and the children fell into the fire where they were consumed by the flames. The people gathered before the Moloch were dancing on the sounds of flutes and tambourines to drown out the screams of the victims. According to some sources, the Moloch in the Old Testament is not a god, but a specific form of sacrifice. http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/moloch.html

Molech was an ancient fire deity, of a common type worshipped throughout Canaan generally, and Phoenicia particularly. Under various names, depending upon the city or country, Molech is essentially identical with Chemosh of Moab, and probably Melqart of Tyre. The general name for this type of fire god used throughout Palestine was Baal, meaning ‘lord.’ Molech was the national deity of the country of Ammon, east of the Jordan, or the Ammonites. Molech was also worshipped by the Israelites on many occasions, much to the distress of the prophets. http://www.ancientroute.com/religion...ame/molech.htm

[Houman]

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http://www.whale.to/c/kali.html
[Goddess Kali is a pretty good pictorial depiction of the thousands of years old Human sacrifice and Satanic blood lust, i.e. the Kali Yuga 1 (aka The Reign of Evil). Said to be the Goddess of the heart chakra--more like the satanic gatekeeper. So obviously we are still in the Kali Yuga, right at the end, we hope. The Thug sect is a good clue as well, particularly the bit about 'labour without ceasing towards the destruction of the human race' 1.]


Rolling Stones John Pasche was still a student at the Royal College of Art when he was asked to design an image for a Rolling Stones tour in 1971. As Pasche explains in this film Mick Jagger invited the young designer to his Chelsea home to brief him. The logo was initially inspired less by Mick Jagger's famous pouting lips than by the Indian goddess Kali who is often portrayed with a protruding pointed tongue. The image was an immediate success. Pasche was paid £50 and commissioned to design a logo which has featured on every Stones album since.




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[Houman]

Die Antwoord
http://www.whale.to/c/die_antwoord.html