Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Amzer Zo]

Posted by Tigressa (here)
Hello Amzer Zo, thank you for your nod in my direction. I do get where you are coming from though I am not quite up to date on the entire thread and it's content as it is lengthy.

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Also, I am not sure why so many ugly pictures have been posted. What purpose does this serve? I see a lot of fear being generated here despite what is stated.


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Hi Tigressa,

I can only speak for myself here, but from what I have gathered, the purpose of this thread is to challenge the "Oh yeah, no big deal, happens everyday..." attitude that developed around the numbers of missing children that keeps increasing worldwide.

When researchers get too close to any reliable answers, they get "disappeared" when not abiding by the warnings or ridiculed, ostracized and/or jailed like happened to Ted Gunderson or Fritz Springmeier.

From these reseachers, all the investigations roads lead to rituals, satanic and others. Therefore the equation of increase in the numbers of missing children = increase in rituals numbers and therefore practicing groups.

Yet, the attitude of "You out of your mind?!" remains.

As for the fear, when left unconfronted, that is subconscious as in the excuse given by "light workers," that's when it is the most controlling and dangerous since their world becomes a wishfull thinking fantasy where it's ok and left unchallenged that children keep disappearing for the purpose of ritual sacrifices since they don't "wallow" in such things for their own benefit.

What this thread exposes is what is the veiled drive behind these horrors.

If you go looking for things and have a belief system around it you will probably find it.

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What I do see in this thread is a lot of intellectual debate, some painful experiences and not a lot of healing.

The end result, whether SRA, abductions or whatever, is that a lot of individuals get damaged with little or no actual efficient recourse, but a lot of "Ascension Deliverance" being spread around.

Most of the researchers in that field, whether it's Malanga, Hubbard, the author of "The Greenbaum Speech," Laura Knight-Jadczik, Turner, Bartolic, Bramley, Truman, Steve Richards, etc... all of them stumbled upon the same thing from their different perspectives and therefore constituting an empirical body of knowledge from which rules, laws and theories of efficient techniques can be derived and which need to be spread and taught far and wide since shamanism, white magic, sorcerers of all denominations did not, for the eons past, managed to effectively handle the problem which is not only persisting but growing.

It is up to all of us to author an instruction/directions manual on how to handle being on a planet as a human being since the so-called "creators" forgot to provide for one. Just asked or told "Allez voir là-bas si j'y suis! Revenez seulement quand vous m'aurez trouvé" (Check out if I am way over there! Come back only when you've found me!). Silly me... I did, and forgot to unroll Arianne's thread.

As interesting as the original information was, it is not my experience and so I won't be posting further comments as I see that experiences that differ are not on topic.

Houman answered that concern a few posts above which mentions posting experiences are ok and welcome... which is why I am so interested in seeing Steve Richards' interview transcripts show up.

[Amzer Zo]

Counter Intel Pro at work:


Bizarre burning and cutting ritual on kids lands Florida woman in jail
By Dan Sullivan

ST. PETERSBURG -- Danielle Harkins told the kids they needed to rid their bodies of demons as the group gathered before dusk Saturday around a small fire near the St. Petersburg Pier. They should cut their skin to let the evil spirits out, police said she told the children. Then, they needed to burn the wounds to ensure that those spirits would not return.

Some kids got cut, police said. Some kids got burned. Harkins got arrested.
Harkins, 35, a literacy teacher at Lealman and Asian Neighborhood Family Center, was booked in jail Tuesday morning on child abuse charges in connection with the bizarre ritual. She was held in jail Tuesday night on $55,000 bail.


Police said the ritual was attended by seven teenagers, all of Asian ethnic background, whom Harkins had taught a few years ago in her job at the center. At least two were injured, police said.

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Full article: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/1...ng-ritual.html

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/1...#storylink=cpy

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by starninja (here)
Hey, don't worry. I said what I needed to say on that subject. But don't expect that I will be quiet if I see something that is not right. You can't control that.

Enjoy Avalon forum.

Starninja, listen up: if you attempt to derail this thread one more time with negative comments, I will ask you to leave this forum. That is something I can control, and I will if necessary without a moment's hesitation.

This is a very important thread. I've met Truman Cash, and listened for quite some time to his story in person. He's telling the truth absolutely as he knows and believes it. That's a fact.

If you have a different opinion, then this is your problem, not his. My opinion is that his testimony is significant, and that there's a huge puzzle here which many interested readers are committed to working together to assemble. If you don't want to be part of that constructive process, then that's fine. Just take yourself elsewhere and don't interfere.

[Jean-Luc]

Posted by TrumanCash (here)

Posted by Jean-Luc (here)
Truman

You mentionned that you haven't been abducted since the removal of this brain implant, which I understand you must be most happy about. Does this also apply to your close family (wife, sons) or any other people that you know?
Have your sons be adbucted as regularly as yourself and felt disgusted about it just as much as you?

I don't know about my ex-wife and children's abduction status.

Thanks for your reply, however puzzling it is to me. And basically I am feeling sorry for you about that. I hope you get a chance to explore this in more detail in the future, but most of all (if it's the case) to mend the relationship with your children.

[Jean-Luc]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This is a very important thread. I've met Truman Cash, and listened for quite some time to his story in person. He's telling the truth absolutely as he knows and believes it. That's a fact.

Camelot's interview with Jim Sparks 5 years ago opened me up (a little bit) at the time to the realm and plausibility of the abduction phenomenon. He appeared genuine and well intentionned... even if I had doubts about the reality of the good environmental intentions of his "abudcters".

Maybe one day, we will get a chance to have some sort of comparable interview with Truman. I feel it would be very worthwhile to reinforce the impact/credibility of Truman's books. He has put many efforts to compile them and convey the message and they probably deserve a wider audience. At the same time I can imagine that for personnal reasons Truman might not want to expose himself publically more than he is presently doing via this forum or elsewhere. Yet on such a touchy, mindboggling and difficult to grasp subject, I feel there is no better tool than a good quality, spontaneous and living interview.

[Kristin]

I've been thinking a lot about all of the information that we have all been compiling lately and a few ideas have been floating around that I wanted to share.

First being that the parasitical model that is theorized to inhabit this planet makes a lot of sense. I postulate that if this is indeed true then a few other things are also explained. For example, it did not make much sense to me that we have forces that are working for us and yet would not interfere directly to aid in the issue, yet in many ways they have. Are not researchers such as David Icke and Jordan Maxwell protected and guided? Even our own Bill Ryan. However, if a planet was infested with a parasite would not there be a danger to others working on our behalf and would they also need to take a certain amount of caution when dealing with this issue? As a doctor would quarantine a patient is not our own planet under quarantine as well?

Ego being a direct route to open up one as a conduit for such parasitical entities: How many times have we witnessed researchers and others around us become misguided through the opening of their own ego? Often, I would say. Ego first then the eventual downward spiral and discrediting of the person. We are walking a slippery slope here. We all need to exercise caution and care when we direct our thoughts and actions. We need to be cognitive of our motivations and where these motivations are coming from.

The splitting of the Mind, Soul, and Spirit. The trinity is also a powerful symbol. Used in magic as well... the pyramid. These are related symbols that suggest a system that is apparent and right in front of our faces. Is this the alchemical recipe that is being used and has been used since the dawn of man? The key to our success through this matrix seems to be the reintegration of our divided selves, sovereignty, and the ability to uncover the rules of engagement through our own acquiescence. How do we apply the rules of free will to this game and not only become contenders, but also use this knowledge in a responsible and respectful way to promote evolution for the entire system?

To heal this planet and ourselves from the enslavement of the parasitical I would suggest that we look at our enslavers as being sick and try to find a cure for them as well as ourselves. I believe that this is a game based on free will. Can we find it in ourselves to create the space for true healing by allowing our enemies to choose to evolve as well? Can we look at this possible future at all through our wounds? What if we found the key to stopping this forever and it entailed that we needed to be balanced and autonomous enough to offer up a choice to our enemy, that choice being evolve or leave.

Thoughts to ponder,
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[TrumanCash]

Recently a flamer/troll made a personal attack on me on this thread. This certainly is not the first time this has happened as I have been attacked on other forums as well. I want to thank Bill Ryan, Houman, et al, for their posts regarding this attack.

It is not surprising that I am frequently attacked because I have been exposing one of the US government's biggest secrets--collusion with manipulative, negative aliens in an apparent exchange for technology. As anyone who has read THE EYE OF RA knows, I was abducted into a deep underground military base where I personally saw US military personnel working with Grays.

I am convinced that US "intelligence" agents and their henchmen do infiltrate forums in order to attack whistleblowers such as I because they do not want this secret exposed. Of course, there are also people who are just anti-social, negative people who appear to justify their pitiful, parasitic existence by making less of others and they are not necessarily attached to "intelligence" agencies (but perhaps used and/or encouraged by them). One of their trademarks is to disguise their attacks with their specious claims of acting in the name of truth. Nothing could be farther from it.

BTW, take notice of how this flamer has disrupted this thread. I've never seen any of these individuals reform themselves. They always come back with more attacks, which is why I left the David Icke forum as the moderators tolerated it. I don't.

These parasites also don't do any personal research. They cannot create on their own so they parasitize others who do create. They're too busy attacking people on forums to do anything creative.

I have devoted a significant portion of my life doing research on this subject. I have worked with over 44 other abductees. I have recovered personal memories of more than 75 incidents involving "ETs" and over 120 past life incidents. (I stopped counting a number of years ago.) My personal research into ET contact led me to investigate and study ancient religions, secret societies, symbology, "UFOs", and related subjects.

This research took years and I have not made one dime from it. I did this because I just had to know. I did it for me. People have offered money for my work but I will not take any. I'm not looking for praise, fame or fortune. I live a quiet, private life and I like it that way. That's why I use a pen name. I only put my information out there because I care about this planet and the people on it. Most of them are good people.

Since this individual has muddied the waters for some readers, I will hereby correct his inflammatory and defamatory lies with information that I have already placed on the internet and this thread in particular. Please notice the items in bold type:

I have achieved recent success in getting a brain implant removed and I have not been abducted since then. This was the same type of brain implant that I talked about in the EYE OF RA in the "Journey to Discovery" chapter. It is a horrible implant that Grays insert between my eyebrows above the bridge of my nose. It is a physical implant that goes directly into my brain. They've done this to me twice before.

During the mid-90s when I was first implanted with this brain implant I was experiencing as many as two or three abductions per week.

For the past several years I have only experienced about one abduction every two years. I speculated that they were not so interested in me because of lower sperm production due to my advancing age. Because the abductions were so infrequent I never bothered to recover the memory of each of them during that particular time period. One of those infrequent abductions occurred about four years ago when I used Google Maps and Google Earth to to pinpoint the location of the aforementioned underground base. Yes, Big Brother is watching.

However, things changed several months ago and I began to be abducted about once a month (on average) and it appears that abductions in general have increased lately for some other abductees. My recent abductions started around the first of December 2011. I was implanted again with a physical brain implant, the one that goes between my eyebrows above the bridge of my nose. I was having a pretty tough time with it.

Here's what happened: I was abducted on February 29, 2012. Sperm was taken with one of their devices. (I was taking an HGH homeopathic this past winter and it definitely increased my sperm production/libido, but I do not know if that precipitated the recent abductions.) I also went nose to nose, as it were, with a tall Gray and gave him a piece of my mind. I was implanted again on that night with the brain implant.

What had happened is that I got up in the night to go to the bathroom. I sat down on the toilet and then was floated up into the ship. After the sperm collection, confrontation and implantation I was floated back down on the toilet.

When I stood up and walked out of the bathroom I became dizzy and then collapsed unconscious on the kitchen floor. It was a wooden floor so I hit hard, fell over a chair, injuring my ribs, and hit my head on the floor. I went unconscious for a bit less than a minute according to a witness who had entered the room right after I fell. When I came to I didn't know who I was or where I was. It took me about a half hour or so to regain my memory. This was the second worst abduction that I have experienced this lifetime.

I was abducted again on March 25, 2012. As usual, sperm was taken. It was a particularly rough abduction, physically speaking, as my left side and lower back were injured. On March 24th, before the abduction, the Grays turned up the heat, so to speak, on my brain implant, causing excessive and unnatural drowsiness and a dull headache. This condition persisted through the following day. I therefore slept during the day and basically took it easy. I could actually feel the location of the physical implant centered in the front portion of my brain behind my forehead. I tried to read but found it very difficult to do so.

However, in April I initiated telepathic contact with the Grey that implanted me. It could also be described as remote viewing as I could vaguely "see" what was going on as well. I have had conscious telepathic contact once before with a Gray. Read "Journey to Discovery" for the details.

This Gray felt bad about implanting me but he indicated that it was his job and he had to answer to his superiors. I asked if he could remove the brain implant and I promised not be a problem for them in the future as I regain my spiritual abilities. He had to ask his superiors and finally got the okay to remove the implant. It was removed! Yahoo! However, the night that it was removed I was a bit resistive because I thought they were going to implant me again. Anyway, they took it out and I am now friends with the Gray that implanted me. I call him "Arnie".

I did not do this by myself. I was helped by two very experienced people who had been personally trained by L. Ron Hubbard. However, these two people are not members of the Church of Scientology nor am I. The Church of Scientology long since been taken over by the dark side via government agencies such as the CIA, IRS and who knows what else.

The techniques that I learned to recover my abduction memories as well as past life memories were also developed by Mr. Hubbard. I used the techniques in two of Mr. Hubbard's books--DIANETICS, A MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH (1950) and SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL (1951). As I mentioned in the EYE OF RA, I also once used what I call "light trance hypnosis" to verify some of my memories. It was not anything like stage hypnotism but was mostly just a relaxation technique. However, from my personal experience, Dianetics methods are much safer, more reliable and more comfortable to use.

I am very thankful that Mr. Hubbard devoted most of his life to developing these techniques as I can personally testify to their effectiveness. Regarding my abductions, I feel that these techniques have saved my life. I have not been abducted since the removal of the brain implant by my friend "Arnie".

I have written up the memory retrieval techniques (Research Tools) that I used (in layman's terms) so that anyone can understand them. I will email this document free of charge to anyone who is genuinely interested in learning these techniques. Just PM me on this forum.

Peace,
TLC

[Houman]

Truman: Thanks a lot for your post. You didn't have to reply given the nature of the attack but you did it anyway, this is very much appreciated.
Houman

[Ceedub]

Posted by Houman (here)

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZfgINwqnsA

Houman,

As I'm catching up with this incredible thread, I have been affected as has everyone else by the powerful satanic images. While I had hypothetical awareness of satanic rituals the pictures have brought me to a deeper level of Knowledge about this depravity. My eyes and my mind were burning from the experience when I got to the posetive images you posted. I suppose it was the juxtaposition that caused a very powerful reaction when I got to those. Inexplicably when I watched the whale video I just burst into tears, bawling and sobbing like a child (I'm a grown man and don't usually cry from watching YT vids).

I thought I would share that video with my friend (the only person with whom I can share the sort of things discussed here). I should say I just shared the whale vid and not the larger context of the thread, just to brighten her day. She happens to be a substitute teacher and she shared it with an urban kindergarten class and sent me a video of the kids all loving it and wanting to see it again and discussing the girl who was swimming with the whales, like you would with a room full of children. It was wonderful to see and I was struck by how these children were affected and how it will surely plant some kind of seed to bear fruit or open doors in ways beyond imagining, like a butterfly over the Indian Ocean, it's the interconnectedness of all things, it's how the little things that are generated by our unique free will manifest in unknowable ways guided by the intent of the Will who first raised their consciousness to action. The semmingly tiny force generated by the wings of a butterfly manifesting the lovely breeze that carresses me today, an inspirational image kindly offered to sooth our hurting eyes becomes an uplifting message to a friend, inspires a kindergartener...

Appologies for being a bit off topic and trailing a few days behind on this thread but I wanted to share this small example of the unknowable ways we influence the All That Is to hopefully shore up the strength of the tired warrior spirits on this thread. Houman, your ripples are traversing the Universe and they carry the signature of Love (-> Light -> Knowlege) of the sender.

(I meant to share the video of the kids so you could see and Know better the subtelties of the effect but I can't see a way to post multimedia from my hard drive.)



Gratitude, CW

[Flash]

Interestingly i know of another child who was saying she was here to save the planet at four years old without input from her parents. She also swam with sea mammals, dolphins, many years in a row.

Although the movie is very touching and that you can see that the whales are careful with their nageoires (swimming arms) one of them holding them tight to her body when moving away most probably for not harming the child around (yes they differentiate human adults from human children), i still think it was somewhat quite dangerous what the parents of Celeste had their daugter do, dangerous and irresponsible. Wild animals respond to instinct first. One whale in heat is quite unpredictable for example.imho

I don't like using children for anything including saving the planet. Isn't this the topic of this thread in parts?

[Daughter of Time]

Truman,

Thank you for your detailed post.

Much of what you informed us with is highly disconcerting (not that any of the issues presented here are not disconcerting) because it seems that once they abduct someone, they almost own them. Not only do they extract sperm/ova, for this is not the worst of what they do. But they implant us and control us on so may different levels.

The fact that they were able to see what you were googling means they are always watching. And they knew you'd been taking HGH! Wow! So they rob us of our lifeforce and cause physical and mental imbalances, metabolic malfunctions, immune disfunctions, etc., and then we try our best to rebalance our systems, only for them to rob us again! So our re-balancing ends up serving as more food for them! Their perniciousness goes well above and beyond what I already knew and imagined.

I wonder how far their manipulations go. I know they caused problems for you and your relationship with your family. Could they also prevent benevolent people from entering our lives? I guess that's to be expected. So this means that the malevolent beings (humans) who enter our lives were also, most likely, caused by them. The situation seems hopeless.

The good news is that you were able to befriend the Gray that implanted you and your abductions have stopped, hopefully for good. This means these beings do possess some consciousness so there is hope. And that is encouraging.

[danceblackcatdance]

Greetings Houman and thx for all the info, it's sufficiently disturbing...

Dear Truman, i can not imagine what you have gone through, you must be a brave soul... i have read some of your books now and am very curious about the Pleiadian connection... have you seen this thread / research done by Wayne Herschel?

Prometheus-Movie-Based-Upon-Reality-See-TRUE-ENCODED-STARMAPS

there are more links to the research posted by billyji further down the thread... the work suggests that at the roots of all the main earth religions are star maps pointing to the Pleiadies... this is also repeated in masonic imagery, mayan artefacts, stonehenge, at the vatican, giza & mars etc... all referencing that star group..

wondering what it all means, if that isn't too big of a wonder...

[Amzer Zo]

Orion model

One of Alex Collier's interviews by Robert Stanley who yanked those interviews off his website...


Alex Collier interview, 2011-10-27
http://kiwi6.com/file/f8s5019nne


Welcome to a new episode of Unicus Radio, I am your host Robert Stanley we have a special guest, our friend Alex Collier.

“ …our ancient ancestors, the Sumerians, the Egyptians they all had full knowledge of our cousins. They often saw them in the air, they had some forms of interaction between them and humanity on a relatively frequent basis. The Mayans, the Aztecs also have the same stories of being with the gods and you know, agriculture, horticulture, manufacturing were all taught to our ancestors. It’s after, really, the sinking of Atlantis and then the last pole shift that occurred which was caused by the Anunaki where everything kind of went black, and then what we have basically, we have all these legends on this as we are taught but are in fact based on actual history. Now, as far as the freeing of the galaxy…

“I am gona tell you what I have been told.

“’For the most part, most of the galaxy is pretty civilized, ok. It’ really matured, it’s coming to its own. But there are some areas, mostly on the outskirts, where it’s still pretty [much] considered “jungle.” But that’s changing rapidly as well. Now, if you remember when I first started speaking, the Andromedans, Moreney and Faceyas, had said that tyranny showed up in our galaxy in the future and they had come back in time to find out what was going on and they had narrowed it down – not just the As but several groups or teams that were part of the Adromedan council -- had come back and had focused it to this particular area of our solar system.

“Now, we have some really bad elements here. They are not just here but in this kind of sector, this part of our galaxy. Some are in our solar system, obviously, and some are directly underneath us. But some are also inhabiting some of the other planets and moons in our solar system.

05:00
“Basically this was like a free zone. This was an area where nobody paid attention to. And it's because of that that this rogue element was drawn here because they felt like they could do whatever the hell they wanted to do. In essence you could say this was like a lure to them. This area that nobody gives a sh*t about, that’s where we go, that’s where we hide. Like pirates would do.

“So, they come here en masse, in numbers, not only physically but dimensionally. The dimensional part, doors were opened for them so they could actually come in and now basically what you have now is that you have this cesspool of just renegades who for the most part have all their own agendas. They may have different agendas, but none of those agendas are really about the betterment and welfare of the natives. It’s all about what can we get for ourselves. And humanity has mirrored this as well, you know, in our history.

“So, now, what we have is that the doors are closing. Behind this group, I know there are some basically saying it’s over, and that is absolutely so far from the truth. And I’ll give you an analogy of why that's so far from the truth. Now, it is clear that they are backing up and they are beginning to know that they are cornered. But it isn’t over because we are between them and the good guys. For the most part humanity is completely unaware of what’s really going on around themselves. Humanity is in a very precarious position.

“But I’ll just give you this analogy. You even hear it with some of these speakers saying, you know, a brand new financial system is coming in, and it’s gona be miraculous, it’s gona be absolutely wonderful; it’s gona replace the old system. Well, the old system was based on a fiat currency from, they only last about 80 years. So it’s coming to an end. It has reached its pinnacle of putting everybody in debt. So we have now a new financial system coming in. This is an Earth financial system. However it is being managed by other personages who are not solely human.

“At this point, there were only four countries that were not part of the Rotschild’s banking system. They were North Korea, Cuba, Libya and Iran. Well we know Libya is no longer a part of that. They're no longer free, they are now part of the Rothschild’s banking system. The next would be Iran and we are already hearing the ramblings about going to war with Iran and making them the bad guy. As far as North Korea and Cuba, I don’t think anybody gives a sh*t about those two countries.

“So, this should show everyone that what they’re hearing that it’s all over, it’s time to relax, you know, pick up your heels, open a six-pack, you know, it’s way premature, way premature.


25:30
“Most people in government don’t really understand the real element of control here and that it’s extraterrestrial. They are aware of the human element. Those that have awareness of it, made a choice to succumb to this evil. I am sure that they were probably threatened and that their families were threatened, etc. Because we have inherited this problem. Those alive today inherited this problem. But this is the Orion Model.

“This is what the Orions, both the human aspect of what’s the Anunaki are a part of and the Reptilian lineages used to do, hundreds and hundreds of millions of years ago when the colonization of galaxies was in its beginning and its infancy. I don’t even know how many years ago that was.

“But this is the Orion Model: they would come in with different gods, they would separate the humanity of that planet. They would change their language. They would teach them a faith or a religion to separate them even more. Then they would use them to fight one another to build animosity and distrust.

“That alone changes the entire harmonic of not only the race but the planet. They think holographically, they know this stuff. They know what it does, ok, because they have all this knowledge.

“So, when you have planetary race and a planet vibrating at a low frequency, it is like a nesting zone for these guys. And when that’s done, what they then do is they corrupt, they create a priesthood to be the intermediaries between humanity and them because the more hidden they are, especially if they are regressive, the more stealth they are, the easier it is for them to manipulate.

“So, they use their human priesthoods, or their priesthoods – I am assuming all the races are human; they are not -- to basically implement the strategy and the plan.

“Once they have absolute control of a planet and the humanity on it and all the resources, just before they expose themselves, come forward and introduce themselves as gods, what they do is they eliminate all the people that helped them. All, the priesthoods, all the intermediaries, all the middle management, they eliminate all of them so there is no one left to tell the story. And they erase history. Then the humanity on that particular planet is floundering around wondering “Who the hell are we?” “what’s true, what isn’t true? “How do you explain this?” “That religion says that.” It creates all this confusion and no one is on the same page and that’s exactly how they managed to control these planets.

““Ordo ab chao”

“You cannot enslave a planet that is well educated and you have a humanity that knows who it is on high spiritual principles. You cannot enslave a race like that.”

[Ceedub]

Posted by Flash (here)
Interestingly i know of another child who was saying she was here to save the planet at four years old without input from her parents. She also swam with sea mammals, dolphins, many years in a row.

Although the movie is very touching and that you can see that the whales are careful with their nageoires (swimming arms) one of them holding them tight to her body when moving away most probably for not harming the child around (yes they differentiate human adults from human children), i still think it was somewhat quite dangerous what the parents of Celeste had their daugter do, dangerous and irresponsible. Wild animals respond to instinct first. One whale in heat is quite unpredictable for example.imho

I don't like using children for anything including saving the planet. Isn't this the topic of this thread in parts?

I will take your parenting tip under advisement. My parents irresponsibly allowed me tremendous freedom and access to explore and develop my relationship with nature from a very young age (not without some near scrapes but mostly without supervision) so I guess I don't know any better. Taking the vid at face value, is Celeste being used or being allowed and encouraged to explore her passion btw?

Is it possible that we have programs installed to make us fear connecting with nature and thus to our higher selves and the creator? My life experience has shown me the indispensible value of connecting with nature and I can understand clearly on many levels why this fear might be a valuable program to those who control. Identifying all of these programs in ourselves (and helping our friends) is paramount and part of clearing the hitchikers and backseat drivers out. (If you spot any running in me please do say and I will do the same)

To illuminate the program further I ask, barring those who carry spears in their boats, just how many people do you suppose have been injured swimming with wales? (I googled just for fun but didn't come up with much except that the mosquito is the most dangerous animal in the world) I would wager there has never been a death of the sort you describe since Jonna (?) had his scrape with the whale, actually didn't he make it out ok in the end, better for the experience? I should have been paying attention in sunday school instead of daydreaming about bears.

If young Celseste can dogpaddle at ease amidst a pod of giant humpbacks far from shore, the petty tyrants she meets later will surely not challenge her courage. If she can witness the beauty, spirituality and gentle knowing intellegence of these creatures, meeting and communicating with them in their element, surely she will be well prepared to recognise the difference between phoney ascended masters and the True light of Source.

Let us not teach our children to fear this way. If strange adults in robes are having playtime in the church basement, run like a deer sweet child but when a humpback pod saunters up to your boat, say hello and be not afraid.

Now at the risk of going on, I will also remind that many laws have been passed recently to keep people away from dolphins and whales. I live on a boat and understand well the issues around harrassment but many of these laws are very suspicious to me... kind of makes you wonder why they don't want you communicating with these creatures. They could fill your mind with all manner of whale propoganda, corrupt your children with their Bohemian ways... So the program, yes I think I see a program running.

With loving intentions for knowledge and growth.

CW

[Flash]

Accidents did happen with dolphins when their nature call were not respected despite them giving warnings, the dolphin warnings ways of course. Accidents could happen with bears too. To do what Celeste did, one has to be aware of the other specie's language and behavior.. In this case it seems the whales were aware of the human specie frailty. Was it also the other way around? Was Celeste going with free will or being used? These are the questions.

There is another story with a french girl in africa and her lion friends. She said when older that these long filming from her parents where exhausting and often she wished she would not had had to endure it at the time. There is freedom and freedom. What looks free may not always be.

I do wish every child was in contact with nature as well, this would be very curative and connecting if free.

[Tigressa]

Dear Truman,

As I work doing a type of modern shamanism and am a trained hypnotherapist I would like very much to try your method. It may take a while to find the right candidates but I will post my findings on the forum. I have been thinking on this for the last 24 hours and then I saw your message! As you say, personal research is key. Thanks for the offer.

[TrumanCash]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
Truman,

Thank you for your detailed post.

Much of what you informed us with is highly disconcerting (not that any of the issues presented here are not disconcerting) because it seems that once they abduct someone, they almost own them. Not only do they extract sperm/ova, for this is not the worst of what they do. But they implant us and control us on so may different levels.

The fact that they were able to see what you were googling means they are always watching. And they knew you'd been taking HGH! Wow! So they rob us of our lifeforce and cause physical and mental imbalances, metabolic malfunctions, immune disfunctions, etc., and then we try our best to rebalance our systems, only for them to rob us again! So our re-balancing ends up serving as more food for them! Their perniciousness goes well above and beyond what I already knew and imagined.

I wonder how far their manipulations go. I know they caused problems for you and your relationship with your family. Could they also prevent benevolent people from entering our lives? I guess that's to be expected. So this means that the malevolent beings (humans) who enter our lives were also, most likely, caused by them. The situation seems hopeless.

The good news is that you were able to befriend the Gray that implanted you and your abductions have stopped, hopefully for good. This means these beings do possess some consciousness so there is hope. And that is encouraging.

Yes, there is definitely hope and there are positive solutions.

Just a couple of comments, though, on your post--I didn't mean to imply that the Grays knew I was taking HGH or that they knew that my sperm count/libido had increased. If you read that post again you will see that I mentioned that I didn't know if that was related to the increase in abductions. Also, I haven't yet tried to recover the memory of that abduction when I googled the exact location of the underground military/Grays base. Therefore, I cannot say that it was the Grays that knew. It may have been a milab. It may also have been a joint abduction with Grays and military. It makes more sense to me that alarm bells go off, so to speak, at NSA or other military/intelligence agency when someone uses google maps or google earth to pinpoint the location of such a base. But let me emphasize that I am only speculating about this at this point.

TLC

[Daughter of Time]

Truman,

Thank you for the above post.

I guess it was just misconclusion on my part that the Grays knew of your elevated sperm count since they hadn't abducated you for sperm extraction for a while.

And it does make a lot of sense that your googling activities were most likely being monitored by government agencies and not by the Grays.

[Paul]

Posted by TrumanCash (here)
Recently a flamer/troll made a personal attack on me on this thread. This certainly is not the first time this has happened as I have been attacked on other forums as well. I want to thank Bill Ryan, Houman, et al, for their posts regarding this attack.

The forum moderation team has permanently removed the attacker you speak of from this forum.

I have also gone back and removed most of the attacker's posts on this thread, and a few additional posts which consequently were no longer of much purpose.

Thank-you Truman, Houman and others.

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P.S. -- Several hours later -- I just actually removed the attacker's posts and a few additional posts that no longer had much purpose. I forgot to click the final Delete button when I posted the above.

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[TrumanCash]

Posted by danceblackcatdance (here)
Greetings Houman and thx for all the info, it's sufficiently disturbing...

Dear Truman, i can not imagine what you have gone through, you must be a brave soul... i have read some of your books now and am very curious about the Pleiadian connection... have you seen this thread / research done by Wayne Herschel?

Prometheus-Movie-Based-Upon-Reality-See-TRUE-ENCODED-STARMAPS there are more links to the research posted by billyji further down the thread... the work suggests that at the roots of all the main earth religions are star maps pointing to the Pleiadies... this is also repeated in masonic imagery, mayan artefacts, stonehenge, at the vatican, giza & mars etc... all referencing that star group..wondering what it all means, if that isn't too big of a wonder...

Yes, the Pleiadian connection with the ET group that posed as gods and created the various God-worshipping religions, insidious secret societies and satanic rituals on this planet is very interesting. The videos you posted revealed some various interesting monuments with the same configuration of the seven visible stars of the Pleiades. (However, nowadays we usually only see six due to pollution.) Because this sinister ET group was usually associated with the Pleiades, I refer to them in my books as the Serpent Staff Pleiadians, or SSPs. For example, the SSPs were associated with Quetzcoatl (flying serpent) in mesoamerica: "The Aztecs celebrated the New Fire ceremony every 52 years in which they tore out the heart of a sacrifice victim when the Pleiades constellation passed directly overhead."

However, this does not necessarily mean that the SSPs come from the Pleiades. I have no idea where they come from. And even if they did come from the Pleiades, could one say that that is somehow significant? It's like saying--Oh, that guy is from the east coast and he is evil. That doesn't mean that everyone from the east coast is evil or that the east coast is a bad place. The Pleiades star cluster is a very big area!

We often use names like Pleiadian, Andromedan, Zeta Reticulian, etc. for sake of discussion but in reality they are just generalizations. And likewise we cannot say that all Grays are bad, all Reptilians are bad, all Mantis beings are bad because the beings in bodies in this universe are all individuals.

So I also wonder why the SSPs associate themselves with the Pleiades.