Mysterious artifacts and anomalies in rock

[Atlas]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

In 1885 at a foundry belonging to Isidor Braun of Vocklabruck, Austria, a block of coal was broken up. Out of it fell a small iron or steel cube with a deep incision around it and with the edges rounded on two faces. Some who examined it concluded that only human hands could have made the object. The son of the owner later took it to the Linz Museum in Austria, but later it was lost. A cast of the cube, however, is still kept by the museum.



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"The object was analysed in 1966–1967 [...]

So... the analysed object was a cast of the original one... which would explain it's cast iron... ???

Wikipedia says: "it is often stated as a fact in paranormal literature that it disappeared without trace in 1910, from the Salzburg Museum.[4][5] In fact, as mentioned above, it is at the Heimathaus Museum in Vöcklabruck, Austria, which is where the above photo was taken."

[Atlas]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)

The hammer head and partial handle was found near London, Texas by two hikers, Mr. and Mrs. Hahn, in 1936 near the Red Creek when they spotted a piece of wood protruding from a rock. It wasn't until about 1947 that their son broke open the rock, revealing the hammer head inside.

This tool presents a difficult problem for archaeologists: the limestone rock in which it is encased is estimated to be 110-115 million years old. In fact the wooden handle has petrified, like ancient petrified wood, the the hammer head, composed of solid iron, is of relatively recent design.

Posted by Glen J. Kuban
As with all extraordinary claims, the burden of proof is on those making the claims, not on those questioning them. Despite some creationist assertions that the hammer is a dramatic pre-Flood relic, no clear evidence linking the hammer to any ancient formation has been presented. Moreover, the hammer's artistic style and the condition of the handle suggest a historically recent age. It may well have been dropped by a local worker within the last few hundred years, after which dissolved sediment hardened into a concretion around it. Unless Baugh or others can provide rigorous evidence that the hammer was once naturally situated in a pre-Quaternary stratum, it remains merely a curiosity, not a reliable out-of-place artifact.

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm

[Atlas]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

* "Spark plug" in a geode. In 1961, the owners of a gift shop in Olancha, Calif. found a fossil-encrusted geode in the Coso Mountains. When one of the owners cut the geode in half with a diamond saw, however, he found an object inside that was obviously artificial.

The object had a metal core surrounded by layers of a ceramic-like material and a hexagonal wooden sleeve. When X-rayed, the object seemed to resemble a modern spark plug or some other electronic component. Yet it had been completely encased in a geode that was covered with fossils estimated to be 500,000 years old.

[...] the object was not a geode. Geodes have very precise characteristics – a thin outer shell of dense chalcedonic silica, and a layer of quartz crystals internally – which the ‘Coso Artifact’ does not possess. The material was described by one of the discoverers as hardened clay that had picked up pebbles, a nail and a washer, with a hardness of 3 on the Mohs scale, much softer than a geode. (source)



[...] quote form the article, “The Coso Artifact: Mystery From the Depths of Time?” by Pierre Stromberg and Paul Heinrich:

To help us to learn more about spark-plug technology of a century ago, we enlisted the help of the Spark Plug Collectors of America (SPCA). We sent letters to four different spark plug collectors describing the Coso Artifact, including Calais’s X-rays of the object in question. We expected the SPCA to provide some vague hints or no information at all about the artifact. The actual answers were stunning.

On September 9, 1999, Chad Windham, President of the SPCA, called Pierre Stromberg. Windham initially suspected that Stromberg was a fellow spark plug collector, writing incognito, with the motive of hoaxing him. His fears were compounded by the fact that there is an actual line of spark plugs named “Stromberg”. Though Stromberg repeatedly assured Windham that his intentions were purely for research, he was puzzled why Windham was so suspicious and asked him to explain. Windham replied that it was so obvious to him that the artifact was a contemporary spark plug, the letter had to be a hoax. “I knew what it was the moment I saw the X-rays,” Windham wrote.

Stromberg asked Windham if he could identify the particular make of the spark plug. Windham replied he was certain that it was a 1920s-era Champion spark plug. Later, Windham sent 2 identical spark plugs for comparison. Ten days after Windham’s telephone call, Bill Bond, founder of the SPCA and curator of a private museum of spark plugs containing more than 2000 specimens, called Stromberg. Bond said he thought he knew the identity of the Coso Artifact: “A 1920s Champion spark plug.” Spark plug collectors Mike Healy and Jeff Bartheld (Vice President of the SPCA) also concurred with Bond’s and Windham’s assessment about the spark plug. To date, there has been no dissent among the spark plug collectors as to the identity of the Coso Artifact.

http://archyfantasies.com/2012/07/09...coso-artifact/

[13th Warrior]

The most logical explanation is that these objects had been teleported/or similar into their mysterious locations. As far as the so called "star" shaped holes in rock; they look to me to have been created with a splined shaft or similar...I believe the Egyptians where said to have bored holes in stone with copper tubes...

[conk]

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
The most logical explanation is that these objects had been teleported/or similar into their mysterious locations. As far as the so called "star" shaped holes in rock; they look to me to have been created with a splined shaft or similar...I believe the Egyptians where said to have bored holes in stone with copper tubes...

This was the conclusion of David Wilcox in his Source Field Investigations book. The work of many others led him to believe that objects move through space-time and time-space and occasionally 'land' in the past. His prelude to the conclusion is pretty convincing.

One of my favorites from his book was the stories about toads and reptiles found alive inside extremely old rock. There are multiple well sourced stories about this phenomenon. The toads jump and move, but die soon thereafter. They leave a space in the rock like someone was making a mold of the animal. Exact shape of the toad, as if it was transported and deposited in the middle of the rock.

[Hervé]

Ancient nanostructures found in Ural mountains are out of place and time

Leonardo Vinti
Epoch Times
Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:02 CEST

An Oopart (out of place artifact) is a term applied to dozens of prehistoric objects found in various places around the world that, given their level of technology, are completely at odds with their determined age based on physical, chemical, and/or geological evidence. Ooparts often are frustrating to conventional scientists and a delight to adventurous investigators and individuals interested in alternative scientific theories.

In 1991, the appearance of extremely tiny, coil-shaped artifacts found near the banks of Russia's Kozhim, Narada, and Balbanyu rivers brought about a debate that has continued to this day. These mysterious and minuscule structures suggest that there may have been a culture capable of developing nanotechnology 300,000 years ago.

These manufactured coils were initially discovered during geological research associated with the extraction of gold in the Ural mountains. These pieces include coils, spirals, shafts, and other unidentified components.

The ancient coil-shaped artifacts were found in Russia’s Ural Mountains.

According to an analysis from the Russian Academy of Sciences in Syktyvkar, the largest pieces found are mostly copper, while the smallest are made of tungsten and molybdenum.

While the largest of these objects measure 1.18 inches, the smallest are only 1/10,000th of an inch, and many exhibit Golden Mean proportions. Their shape suggests that they are manufactured and not naturally occurring metal fragments. In fact, they have been found to closely resemble the same miniature components of contemporary nanotechnology.

© Herbert Genzmer and Ulrich Hellenbrand

A magnified image of one of the nano coils found in the Ural Mountains.

Though some have asserted that these tiny structures are merely debris left behind from test rockets being launched from nearby Plesetsk space station, a report from the Moscow Institute determined that they are far too old to have come from modern manufacturing.

In 1996, Dr. E.W. Matvejeva, from the Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals in Moscow, writes that, despite being thousands of years old, the components are of a technological origin.

The pieces were found at a depth between 10 and 40 feet, in a geological stratus between 20,000 and 318,000 years old.

How were humans able to manufacture such tiny components in the distant past, and what were they used for? Some believe that the coils prove the human race enjoyed a sophisticated level of technology in the Pleistocene era, while others assert that the findings are the work of extra-terrestrials.

The artifacts have been studied at four different facilities in Helsinki, St. Petersburg, and Moscow. However, further research into these tiny structures seems to have ended in 1999 with the death of Dr. Johannes Fiebag, a principal researcher of the find.

[Atlas]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Dr. E.W. Matvejeva, from the Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals in Moscow

I searched the Russian Academy of Science's website (www.ras.ru) and found nothing (Google translation might not be the best way though). Some others also were unable to find any "Dr. E.W. Matvejeva" or "Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals in Moscow":

Posted by Pope Skeptic (translation from Spanish)
if one googolea Dr. EW Matvejeva or Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals Dr. EW Matvejeva all one finds are a few pages Conspirators ... so I ask you to show me that laboratory studies .. BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING !!! (source)

While Dr. Johannes Fiebag seems to be a serious researcher, I was unable to find his study of the 'nanostructures'. It would be interesting to have a look at it...

Thanks for posting.

[Hervé]

Thanks for looking!

I didn't check these references but here they are:

ICE-AGE NANOTECHNOLOGY
Literature
1. FIEBAG J., Das Raetsel der Ediacara-Fauna (The puzzle of the Ediacara Fauna) in: Daeniken E.v. (Ed.) Kosmische Spuren, Munich, 1988.

2. FIEBAG J., Das Genesis-Projekt, in: Dopatka, U. (Ed.) Sind wir allein? (Are we alone?), Duesseldorf 1996

3. HAUSDORF H. Wenn Goetter Gott spielen (When Gods play God), Munich, 1997

4. OUVAROV V. Personal letter to H. Hausdorf of 2 October 1996.

Dr. Johannes Fiebag can be reached at: jo.fiebag@t-online.de

Findings by geologists indicate possibility of extraterrestrial origin for
microbjects.

And:

As I was told by Dr. Valerii Ouvarov (St. Petersburg), further analyses of the mysterious spiralswere carried out by the out-stations of the Russian Academy of Sciences in St. Petersburg and in Syktyvar (former capital of the Komi ASSR), and also at an independent institute in Helsinki.

I have before me the Expertise No. 18/485 of 29th November 1996, by the aforementioned Institute (ZNIGRI) [3], the original Russian text of which I reproduced in my book WENN GOETTER GOTT SPIELEN. Due to the short time before the book went to press, a correct and complete translation was not possible. This was only possible after a sworn translator had been brought in [4].

The author of the Expertise is Scientific Assistant Mme. Dr. E. W. Matveyeva, of the Section for Geology, Prospecting Techniques, and Economics of Precious Metal Alluvial Deposits. She reports first on the development of the discovery site, then the testing procedures used for the analysis of the thread-shaped tungsten spirals in the alluvial deposits of the Balbanyu river. The exact location of the site is given by ZNIGRI as follows: it is a development in the alluvial deposits of the third flood-terrace on the (looking downstream) left bank of the river Balbanyu, oriented along borehole line no. 106. Loose sediments are found in this development, which are represented as follows, working upwards from the oldest to the youngest deposits:

1 A structured weathering-crust (alternating chalk and carbon-containing slate with grey-blue and brown-yellow banding: visible thickness 0.5 - 1.0 metres.)

2. Included lenticles (Einschlusslinsen) of 0 to 0.2 metres of weakly-sorted sand, gravel, clay, and fine detrital material, which can be designated as erosion products of stratum 1. described above.

3. Deposits of grey gravel and detrital material of various grain sizes with well washed-out sands and a visible thickness of 1 to 1.7 metres, which could be investigated for possible gold content.

4 Gravel-containing sand and clay deposits, grey-coloured, with a visible thickness of 2.0 metres. In the upper region of this sediment can be seen evidence of disturbance by grading work.

As regards the age of the strata which contain the tungsten and molybdenum artefacts, Dr Matveyeva states as follows: The layer which contains the spiral-shaped objects is characterised as gravel and detritus deposits of No. 3 stratum, which in our view, show inner-sedimentary erosion of polygenetic accumulative layers (i.e. layers composed of material of various origins). From their orientation these layers can be dated to 100,000 years and correspond to the lying parts (i.e. the lower regions) of the Mikulinsk horizon of the upper Pleistocene.[3]

In the geological time-scale, the Pleistocene is that part of the Quaternary, the latest geological epoch, which began about 2 million years ago and ended around 10,000 years ago. After that followed the Holocene, in which we are at the moment.

The report continues by describing the tests carried out, which include the use of an electrom microscope type JSM T-330 made by the Japanese firm Jeol. This also yielded data of various spectroscopic analyses [5].

[Figure 2 - Micro-artefact found in the Urals Click on picture for larger image.]

Particular attention should be paid to the final conclusion reached by the Moscow institute. Report No. 18/485 states that the age of the deposits and the results of the tests give a very low probability to the assumption that the origin of these unusual, thread-shaped tungsten crystals is of a technogenic cosmic nature, due to the rocket take-off route from the Plesetsk space-station over the polar part of the Ural region.

In plain language: these objects cannot have originated from earlier test rockets or similar fired from Plesetsk. The key word of the report comes finally to the point: The data obtained allow the possibility of an extra-terrestrial technogenic origin.[3]

In view of these conclusions, critics will find it very difficult to accuse me of pseudo-documentationor embarrassing behaviour. On the contrary: I will try to obtain further investigation reports from the independent Finnish research institute, on which greater value might be placed.

My hypothesis is that these artefacts are so-called nano-technology, which I can sustain with reference to a recent publication [6]. Researchers all over the world are working on miniature pistons, gear wheels, switches, and other control elements, to be used in nano-robots. These workers will soon be in a position to achieve results which hitherto have been the province of science fiction.

Surely the last word has not yet been said about the sensational finds in the Ural mountains!

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Literature and remarks
1. Hausdorf H. Wenn Goetter Gott spielen Muenchen 1997

2. Hausdorf H. Sensationeller Fund in Russland Ancient Skies, 2/1997

3. Matveyeva, E.W. Conclusions on the finds of threrad-shaped tungsten spirals in the alluvial deposits of the Balbanyu river. ZNIGRI Analysis 18/485 of 29 Nov. 1996

4. In this connection I must thank the Aldea Translation Bureau in Cologne for good co-operation and much help in the translation from the Russian.

5. I would be glad to send interested readers a copy of the complete ZNIGRI report for the cost and postage, also representative micro-photographs.

6. Nanotechnologie Faktor X, 5/1997

[Carmody]

Posted by conk (here)

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
The most logical explanation is that these objects had been teleported/or similar into their mysterious locations. As far as the so called "star" shaped holes in rock; they look to me to have been created with a splined shaft or similar...I believe the Egyptians where said to have bored holes in stone with copper tubes...

This was the conclusion of David Wilcox in his Source Field Investigations book. The work of many others led him to believe that objects move through space-time and time-space and occasionally 'land' in the past. His prelude to the conclusion is pretty convincing.

One of my favorites from his book was the stories about toads and reptiles found alive inside extremely old rock. There are multiple well sourced stories about this phenomenon. The toads jump and move, but die soon thereafter. They leave a space in the rock like someone was making a mold of the animal. Exact shape of the toad, as if it was transported and deposited in the middle of the rock.

The type of rock, the specific constitution, and it's location, are both clues.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Glen J. Kuban
Despite some creationist assertions that the hammer is a dramatic pre-Flood relic, no clear evidence linking the hammer to any ancient formation has been presented. Moreover, the hammer's artistic style and the condition of the handle suggest a historically recent age.

Anyone else think it's amusing that the wooden handle has become petrified into stone, and then this guy says the same wooden handle's "condition" suggests "a historically recent age"?

[Hervé]

Posted by bsbray (here)
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Anyone else think it's amusing that the wooden handle has become petrified into stone, and then this guy says the same wooden handle's "condition" suggests "a historically recent age"?

From the photographs I have seen, that handle looks like wood and shows no sign of petrification at all... but I could be wrong.

[Atlas]

Here is a detailed picture (click to enlarge):

[Atlas]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
From the photographs I have seen, that handle looks like wood and shows no sign of petrification at all... but I could be wrong.

I think that this is a replica (not sure either...).

Posted by bsbray (here)

Posted by Glen J. Kuban
Despite some creationist assertions that the hammer is a dramatic pre-Flood relic, no clear evidence linking the hammer to any ancient formation has been presented. Moreover, the hammer's artistic style and the condition of the handle suggest a historically recent age.

Anyone else think it's amusing that the wooden handle has become petrified into stone, and then this guy says the same wooden handle's "condition" suggests "a historically recent age"?

Ian Juby wrote an interesting analysis of the hammer: http://ianjuby.org/newsletter/?p=424

Conclusions:

• There is no evidence that the rock matrix surrounding the hammer is a recent concretion.
• There is no evidence that the shells in the rock matrix have been reworked, which would indicate a recent concretion.
• There are no unabraded shells available in the riverbed for the rock matrix to be a recent concretion.
• The composition of the rock matrix and the embedded fossil shells match the Cretaceous Hensell Sandstone layer, which for multiple geological reasons we would contend was laid down during a world wide flood.
• Contrary to the rather silly suggestions of some skeptics, the rock matrix did not come from a calcite growth, nor is there any calcite formations or hot springs in the area.
• In spite of the fact that there should only be so much variation in hammer head styles, neither skeptics nor creationists have been able to produce a single historic hammer like the London hammer. Upon further examination, the claims of the skeptics have turned out to be either baseless, or venturing into the ridiculous, putting another nail in the coffin of the “modern hammer” claim.

We therefore conclude that the London artifact is good evidence of man at the time of the dinosaurs, and a good example of a genuine antidiluvian (pre-flood) artifact.

About the handle, he wrote:

The Hammer Handle:

The hammer handle itself is primarily still wood, with portions fossilized, and other portions turned to coal. Some skeptics of course might jump on this, claiming that wood that has not fossilized proves the hammer is recent. However, having all three states of wood (petrified, woody and coalified) in “Cretaceous” formations is surprisingly common.

I have personally seen preserved wood in lower Jurassic layers in Northwestern Colorado (The Morrison formation), and the late cretaceous of Alberta (Horseshoe Canyon formation). One log from the Northern Colorado dinosaur dig site is on display at the entrance to Creation Evidence museum, which also shows all three preserved states.

So the wood in the handle neither verifies nor refutes its age, but the coal and the permineralization would certainly seem to lend credence to a greater age.

Can someone enlighten us on this handle ?

[Hervé]

Posted by buares (here)
[...]
I think that this is a replica (not sure either...).

[...]

If it's a replica, it's quite a detailed one because those details points to same rock and same hammer head. Only the wood seems to be somewhat loose in its "gangue."

[Nick Matkin]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Ancient nanostructures found in Ural mountains are out of place and time

Leonardo Vinti
Epoch Times
Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:02 CEST

An Oopart (out of place artifact) is a term applied to dozens of prehistoric objects found in various places around the world that, given their level of technology, are completely at odds with their determined age based on physical, chemical, and/or geological evidence. Ooparts often are frustrating to conventional scientists and a delight to adventurous investigators and individuals interested in alternative scientific theories.

In 1991, the appearance of extremely tiny, coil-shaped artifacts found near the banks of Russia's Kozhim, Narada, and Balbanyu rivers brought about a debate that has continued to this day. These mysterious and minuscule structures suggest that there may have been a culture capable of developing nanotechnology 300,000 years ago.

These manufactured coils were initially discovered during geological research associated with the extraction of gold in the Ural mountains. These pieces include coils, spirals, shafts, and other unidentified components.

The ancient coil-shaped artifacts were found in Russia’s Ural Mountains.

According to an analysis from the Russian Academy of Sciences in Syktyvkar, the largest pieces found are mostly copper, while the smallest are made of tungsten and molybdenum.

While the largest of these objects measure 1.18 inches, the smallest are only 1/10,000th of an inch, and many exhibit Golden Mean proportions. Their shape suggests that they are manufactured and not naturally occurring metal fragments. In fact, they have been found to closely resemble the same miniature components of contemporary nanotechnology.

© Herbert Genzmer and Ulrich Hellenbrand

A magnified image of one of the nano coils found in the Ural Mountains.

Though some have asserted that these tiny structures are merely debris left behind from test rockets being launched from nearby Plesetsk space station, a report from the Moscow Institute determined that they are far too old to have come from modern manufacturing.

In 1996, Dr. E.W. Matvejeva, from the Central Scientific Research Department of Geology and Exploitation of Precious Metals in Moscow, writes that, despite being thousands of years old, the components are of a technological origin.

The pieces were found at a depth between 10 and 40 feet, in a geological stratus between 20,000 and 318,000 years old.

How were humans able to manufacture such tiny components in the distant past, and what were they used for? Some believe that the coils prove the human race enjoyed a sophisticated level of technology in the Pleistocene era, while others assert that the findings are the work of extra-terrestrials.

The artifacts have been studied at four different facilities in Helsinki, St. Petersburg, and Moscow. However, further research into these tiny structures seems to have ended in 1999 with the death of Dr. Johannes Fiebag, a principal researcher of the find.

When I first saw this report years ago, I thought they looked like close-ups of the filament of some types of incandescent light bulb.

Then I read about these 'ancient' finds in Fortean Times (I think), saying they turned out to be modern industrial waste, filaments from various types and sizes of light bulbs that for some reason had been dumped there, and covered, so they look like they've been there for "thousands of years".

This story is quoted and re-quoted verbatim all over the internet.

The materials, when analysed turn out to be what's used in light bulbs! I can't find a clear reference yet about this stuff being confirmed as just being industrial waste, but I'll keep looking.

Nevertheless, given the choice that it's mysterious nanotechnology from alien helpers thousands of years ago, or forgotten industrial waste that looks and tests like old light bulb fragments...

Let me think which one my money's on...

Nick

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by buares (here)
Can someone enlighten us on this handle ?

Or maybe more to the point, what's up with these dating techniques and geological ages?

When you have intact wood supposedly from the Cretaceous period, and the same piece of wood is both also partially fossilized and partially turned to coal, doesn't that sound like all this stuff from these periods, dinosaurs included, could be a lot more recent than we're being told?

Posted by Amer Zo
Nevertheless, given the choice that it's mysterious nanotechnology from alien helpers thousands of years ago, or forgotten industrial waste that looks and tests like old light bulb fragments...

It would be a good explanation (industrial waste) but then if it's really nanotechnology (which it does in fact appear to be) then it would have to be a specific kind of industrial waste, from probably a relatively big-name company doing such work and not just for everyday light bulbs.

I don't know much about the nano-technology industry but I wonder if dumping a lot of materials in this way, out in the middle of the Urals, would even be that necessary.

[Nick Matkin]

I don't know much about the nano-technology industry but I wonder if dumping a lot of materials in this way, out in the middle of the Urals, would even be that necessary.

I suspect the 'nano technology' phrase was added by a journalist who knew nothing about the technology either. But it's a great phrase and gets repeated in all the verbatim versions of this story. What if it's just a close-up photo of light bulb filament wire? Nano technology is MUCH smaller than that! (There's a clue in the name: 'nano'.)

Since none of us have been to the site, we don't know how far away it is from any industrial areas, or what sites waste contractors used to dump the waste. If it's hundreds of miles from civilization, I admit that would be an odd place to go just to dump light bulb waste. But I expect in reality it's not far from the factory!

Nick

[Carmody]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)

The hammer head and partial handle was found near London, Texas by two hikers, Mr. and Mrs. Hahn, in 1936 near the Red Creek when they spotted a piece of wood protruding from a rock. It wasn't until about 1947 that their son broke open the rock, revealing the hammer head inside.

This tool presents a difficult problem for archaeologists: the limestone rock in which it is encased is estimated to be 110-115 million years old. In fact the wooden handle has petrified, like ancient petrified wood, the the hammer head, composed of solid iron, is of relatively recent design.

Posted by Glen J. Kuban
As with all extraordinary claims, the burden of proof is on those making the claims, not on those questioning them. Despite some creationist assertions that the hammer is a dramatic pre-Flood relic, no clear evidence linking the hammer to any ancient formation has been presented. Moreover, the hammer's artistic style and the condition of the handle suggest a historically recent age. It may well have been dropped by a local worker within the last few hundred years, after which dissolved sediment hardened into a concretion around it. Unless Baugh or others can provide rigorous evidence that the hammer was once naturally situated in a pre-Quaternary stratum, it remains merely a curiosity, not a reliable out-of-place artifact.

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm

I tried ONE of these examples (the above one, random, first), in Google earth with the vortex maps ley line overlay kmz file,and I immediately find that the Red Creek, near London Texas, is directly on a ley line.

Which means dimensional shifting, energetic shifting, time shifting/melding, etc, on an in all these areas of 'reality'.

If the time of day is right, and the soil conditions are right and the astrological time is right, we can get this dimensional and temporal barrier weakening.

Exactly as I stated.

IF the soil or rock is capable of carrying a magnetic and electric signature, like granite, some times of limestone, and they are charged, as in a draining condition, like a battery with voltage, etc...we can get this sort of thing happening. I've explained the entire thing in other threads, on the specifics of how this works.

This takes you to the mothman, the 411 parks thing, missing people, all kinds of phenomena. as well as Illuminati using the lines and vortex points for meetings, rituals, ritual sacrifice, calling of entities, trying to change timelines and energies, Underground facilities, and so on...

All of it real on all levels, no matter how difficult that is for some to accept.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
I suspect the 'nano technology' phrase was added by a journalist who knew nothing about the technology either. But it's a great phrase and gets repeated in all the verbatim versions of this story. What if it's just a close-up photo of light bulb filament wire? Nano technology is MUCH smaller than that! (There's a clue in the name: 'nano'.)

I admit I don't know much about the actual (physical) material in question and I don't have time right now to look deeply into it, as to the sources talking about it and what exactly they claim and this and that, but I know what nanotechnology is. At one time I was going to school for electronics engineering and one of the first classes I had to take was introduction to engineering, which covered where technology was going today and this included a general education on nanotechnology. If it's on the nano-scale then it doesn't matter what somebody calls it, it's pretty straightforward what's required to manufacture it.


All I know about it, is what was posted above, which says some of the pieces found are as small as 1/10,000th of an inch. Of course anyone can post anything on the Internet, but most people on this site are likely to also realize that there are many things suppressed by other forms of media which find their way onto the Internet and either have a lot of truth to them or point the way towards a more accurate understanding of reality.

1/10,000th of an inch is equal to 2540 nanometers. Definitions as to what scale constitutes nanotechnology vary from less than 100 nm to simply being measured in "100s" of nanometers or less. The real question is what kind of industrial process is required, because newly-developed techniques are what have really given us this jump, and if new techniques would be required for the creation of these things, and not standard industrial processes decades old (such as conventional bulb-making techniques -- and I don't know why anyone would need extremely tiny light bulb components, on this scale), then it is a moot point what you call it.

[Atlas]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
3. Matveyeva, E.W. Conclusions on the finds of threrad-shaped tungsten spirals in the alluvial deposits of the Balbanyu river. ZNIGRI Analysis 18/485 of 29 Nov. 1996 [...]

5. I would be glad to send interested readers a copy of the complete ZNIGRI report for the cost and postage, also representative micro-photographs.

Finally, I found this so-called "Central Scientific Research Institute for Geology and Prospecting for Precious and Non-Ferrous Metals (ZNIGRI) in Moscow".

It is the Central Research Institute of Geological Prospecting for Base and Precious Metals (TsNIGRI), FSUE - Website: http://www.tsnigri.ru/

And here is what Martin J. Clemens wrote:

TsNIGRI oversees or controls two journals, National Geology, which was founded in 1933 and is a scientific or industry periodical that publishes articles and commentary on the theoretical aspects of geology, and Ores & Metals, which was founded in 1992 for the “rapid dissemination of information and the creation of an information base for fundamental research in the field of ore deposits and their geological structure and mineral resources.”

Unfortunately, while these journals are archived online through the Russian language E-Library, a searchable database of literally millions of Russian scientific publications and individual articles, I can find no mention of the Narandan Spiral Artefacts (or Narandan Metal Fasteners, as a Russian language wikipedia.org entry calls them, or even through any other variation of the several names that have come up in this research) through either of the mentioned publications, or any other.

He adds:

In the end, we’re left with the same problems as were mentioned in part one; none of his story can be verified. It’s interesting to note that the Wikipedia entry for the Naradan Metal Fasteners, as mentioned above, lists Hausdorf’s book as well as two further websites – mystae.com and ufoligie.net, both of which are no longer operating – as the only sources for the entire entry.

Also, Scientific Assistant Mme. Dr. E. W. Matveyeva is nowhere to be found on the TsNIGRI's website.

Martin J. Clemens also had some trouble in finding the rivers mentioned in the text:

the rivers cited, in the Ural Mountains where the supposed artefacts were found, were also not found in any listings of waterways in the area. However, after adjusting for Hausdorf’s apparent difficulty with translating either from Russian to German, or from German to English, a spelling variation of one of the rivers returned a result for Kožim.[4] Which is a tributary of Kosjun of the Komi Republic in Russia. The other rivers, Narada (or Naradan) and Balbanyu are still unaccounted for, though again, this may be due to incorrect spellings.

In concluding his 2 pages article he asks:

Are the Narada or Naradan Spirals real? Are they 20,000 years old? Were they examined scientifically by a Russian Federal agency, or by some crackpot UFOlogist? Did Hausdorf make the whole thing up?

Hausdorf's articles on the wayback machine part1 - part2

Still no scientific evidence of the ice age nano-structures...

Can someone contact tsnigri.ru to ask for a copy of the Report No. 18/485 (if it does exist) ?
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EDIT: I just found the report: https://web.archive.org/web/20041101...mspir_fund.htm

Automatic translation from German:

Content translation from Russian

Committee of the Russian Federation for geology.

Central scientific Forschungsinstut of Geology and exploration of non-ferrous and precious metals.

Moscow,
Varshavskoye storeys,
International Information Centre UI "MIZUFI"
Fax: 095 / 315-77-91

29.11.1996 18/485

Results of laboratory tests of filament formation from the alluvial deposits of the river Balbanju.

Conclusions on the findings of filamentary tungsten spirals in the alluvial deposits of the river Balbanju.

In the period of the field work of the ZNIGRI in 1995 was obtained in the low flow area of the river Balbanju in the sampling of alluvial gold-bearing deposits of the heavy silt fraction two spiral samples. Was sampled a section of the alluvial deposits of the third flood terrace of the left bank of the river Balbanju with orientation along the Bohrline 106 (holes 110 -112). Here were loose debris that found extending from below to above constitute the pillar wall of the open pit mining.

• First The structural weathering crust has an alternating layering of limestone and a visible thickness from 0.5 to 1 m.
• Second Lenses of small size (0 to 0.2 m) from weakly sorted sand, gravel, clay and fine debris material that can be represented as Auswaschungsprodukt the first floor.
• Third Deposits of gray scree and boulder material of different grain size with well-washed sands and a visible thickness from 1 to 1.7 m, representing himself as the object with respect Goldhaltigkeit.
• 4th Debris containing sand and clay deposits, gray in color, with a visible thickness of 2 m; at the top of disturbances by leveling works.

The silt, which contained the spiral objects, characterizes itself as scree and glacial deposits of the third floor, which in our opinion (Rindsjunskaja others; 1988) represent a result of innersedimentären leaching of poli-genetic, accumulative layers. These deposits can be dated orientationally 100 000 years, according to the lying parts of the sole Mikulinsker the upper Pleistocene.

The study of the micro-morphology was performed with a solution electron microscope JSM T-330, the company Jeol (Japan), and the composition of the test surface sections was performed with a Energiedispersionsanalysator LINK TO - and 10000 (Laboratory for Biomaterials, NIIT and the IO of the Ministry of Health medical industry: analyst wasin SL) performed.

In the investigation of secondary mineralization of all, their general, distinct orientation relative to the longitudinal ribs of the spiral was found (Figure 1). The orientation of the single crystals is also consistent with these directions coincide (Figure 2). Such regularity suggests that we are dealing with a unit in the form of parallel crystalline adhesions in individuals whose thickness is hundredths of a millimeter, the latter being well explained the ribbed, lateral surface of the aggregate.

Synthetic tungsten crystallizes in exchange centered lattice with a period a = 5.1647A. Tungsten also has a natural cubic symmetry with a mesh factor a = 3.157 (Nowgorodowa, 1995). However, the filament-like form is not observed in minerals depending on the composition, crystalline structure, type of chemical compound or symmetry and phase state of the mineral-forming medium. An example of this are solid gold, silver and copper (Malejew, 1971).

The correctness of our assumption confirmed a recording a micrograph of the fracture surface of the spiral can be seen on the that the internal structure represents a bundle thread-shaped individuals with a single thickness on the order of 1 micron (Figure 3). Similar shapes, including a spiral-shaped silver crystals in the form of a plurality of individual parallel adhesions encountered, the thickness of hundredths of millimeters, and a corrugated lateral surface having (Malejew, 1971).

In this case, the dislocation of the lateral surface acts as the center of the emergence of a new phase in the decomposition of a supersaturated solution or in the decay of a crystal (Malejew, 1971). On the lateral surface of the spiral is clearly determine how, disintegrate in the dimensions of the transition to the outer part of the thread-like crystals that form the spiral in single, compacted areas, from which by further coarse-grained, clearly distinct crystals with growth stages, the crest of the spiral are matched (Figure 5).

Similar forms may also change in the vertex of the cube by entering areas of a cubic shape form (growth defect). Such formation of cubic surfaces is described in skeletal crystals of pyrite, wherein the crystal is cross-shaped as, perpendicular to each other standing plates (Schafranowski, 1968).

The shape of the secondary crystals as a cone-shaped and pagodas, as well as compressed and rectangular, can be explained, in our view by the symmetry of the crystal-forming medium. Due to the presence of a growing crystal at the "bottom" move up or down. Such a medium has the symmetry of a cone (LR) (Schafranowski, 1981). While preserving the external shape of the crystal to match only one axis of symmetry, and the elements of the medium. In particularly intense growth in the direction of perependikularen, cross-shaped surface (001) surface these wedges out gradually, however, the crystal undergoes extension.

The surface analysis of the tungsten Sample Nos. 1, 2 and 3 (spiral of Glühungsfadens) was carried out by Auger spectroscopy method in a eletrooptischen system using LAS-3000 device, equipped with an Auger spectrometer of type "Zylinderischer mirror". The electro-optical system allows to perform a non-destructive analysis of lithium up to the transuranic elements for the elements to be detected. The size of the electronic probe (to analysirender surface area) berägt 0.001 to 0.007 mm. The connection of the electro-optical system with the adoption of sample surfaces with argon ions allows the implementation of a Profielanalyse to study the distribution and modification of the chemical compositions of the elements in depth.

Recording conditions:

• Auger spectra:
• Energy of the primary electron beam Er = 3.0 keV; Voltage modulation of the outer cylinder of the spectrometer = 2.5 V; Vacuum in the working chamber = 5 * 10 torr; the energy of the ion bombardment = 2.0 keV with an emission current of 20 nA. The atomic concentration of the elements was calculated by the Stranddartformel using the intensities of the Auger peaks and the coefficient of sensitivity of the elements, as stated in the table.
• Sample no. 1 (type 1)
• After cleaning the sample surface by means of a 20-minute electron bombardment the tips W fix C and O in the spectrum (Figure 1). After a deep treatment (60 min), the fraction W grew by more than two times, the proportion of C and O decreased by 1.6 and 1.4-fold (Figure 2). The charaktreristische shape of the low-energy part of the Auger peak of carbon leads to the conclusion that this element is in the form of carbide (tungsten carbide). More Ionenbeschüsse were no significant changes in the composition of the sample surface.
• Sample no. 2 (Type 2)
• Drawings 3 and 4 show the Auger spectra of the specimen surfaces after 20 min and 60 min with the corresponding fire. As follows from the obtained spectra and calculations of the atomic concentrations of the elements, no significant differences among the samples 1 and 2 can be made ​​solid.
• Sample no. 3 (spiral of Glühungsfadens)
• Of the Auger spectra of the Glühungsfadens shown in Figures 5 and 6 it is clear that on the surface tungsten carbide also involved. The proportion of oxygen after 20 minutes bombardment is almost three times less than with the surfaces of samples 1 and 2, after 60 minutes, oxygen bombardment on the surface of the sample no longer fixed.

In this way, it follows from the results obtained that the samples 1 and 2 under hyper-related conditions subject to changes that were evident in hydrolysis and oxidation of its surface, and which the increased oxygen content in the surface layers of these samples compared to sample no. 3 testifies.

conical From (drawing 6)

In the secondary crystals are formed on the side surfaces, the solution flows along this surface to move upward or downward. In this case the symmetry of the nutrient medium is characterized by having a single plane of symmetry of PM (the symmetry of the "arrow or stream"). That is, under these conditions, a growing crystal can be obtained only one plane of symmetry in the symmetry of its outer shape, or it will complete without symmetry. This compacted forms are particularly observed on the side surfaces of the spiral.

The composition of the secondary crystals verdichtet- as rectangular, but also as a pagoda-shaped, represented by pure tungsten (Figures 7,8).

The crystalline growths on the surface of filamentous aggregates dignified tungsten testify to the unusual conditions in the alluvial deposits of the upper Pfeistozäns. The age of the deposits and the sampling conditions gives a low credibility of the assumption that the origin of the unusual, thread-like tungsten crystals is due to a techno logene, cosmic tension, which is caused. Graphically by a Rakentenstartroute from the spaceport to the polar Urals The mentioned data allow the question of their "alien" technogenic origin.

Debye-Scherrer Aufnamen of two types of tungsten developments

The analysis was carried out by IS Naumowa, Associate of WIMS.
The Probenindentifizierung was carried out by the powder method (Debya-Scherrer) in a chamber with a diameter of 57.3 mm on FE-broadcast; the Linienintenstät was visually evaluated.

The Anlalyse the obtained Debye-Scherrer photographs showed that having a log cabin pattern. There is a possibility that as a result, found a relation of the other intensity compared to W gauge. However, it is possible that the redistribution of intensities is connected in these samples with low contents of beta-modifications of Wolframkarbits.

A german poster wrote:

Posted by Frank D, 15.09.2008
Yesterday went to the third part of a BBC documentary, I think on BBC 3 (something to do with UFO's the best evidence). Because they have studied these things in a British laboratory and clearly stated that it is recent industrial products -. Probably of dumped industrial waste, which is namely dumped exactly in this region thousands of tonnes 's see, is Wanns repeated, then ego taking perhaps times on.

Does anyone know which BBC documentary shows the items being tested in a British laboratory ?