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    Default Re: DIY easy, high dose anti-oxidant therapy

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    BUMP! There's a fascinating ongoing discussion about liposomal Vitamin C going on over at ATS:

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread846311/pg1
    The opening post of that ATS thread, and some more posts further down the thread by the same poster, dominicus, sound "too good to be true" to me.

    All the recipes I've seen for making liposomal Vitamin C involve soaking the lecithin in water overnight (or days) to get the lecithin thoroughly saturated, before making the liposomal Vitamin C in the ultrasonic cleaner. I'm not sure I trust the recipe in this ATS thread, which has one putting the lecithin in nearly boiling water instead ... just not sure.
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    I have been making my own LipoC for 3 months now.It's easy. No soaking or even putting gin frig. The yahoo group DIY-LET is the best place to learn how.

    But I can give my 'recipe' here if anyone wants it.
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    I have been making my own LipoC for 3 months now.It's easy. No soaking or even putting gin frig. The yahoo group DIY-LET is the best place to learn how.

    But I can give my 'recipe' here if anyone wants it.
    Me, me, I do. Thanks for the offer to share info on your machine. I'm really excited to start on this.

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    Paul, I think the energy and clearmindedness they're getting off of it may be related more to the lecithin than the Vitamin C, but everyone's deficiency levels obviously would be in play. I've been taking lecithin for years and it definitely has wakey-verbally enabling properties (acetylcholine source which is the wakefulness brain chemical). I'm eager to find out how this works on me in comparison; supplies have been ordered, should be here in the next day or two. Since I have decades-long Crohns and a lot of intestine missing and damaged from that, I need all the help with absorption I can get. I have several friends in the medical field who are going to experiment with this also; they've wondered how it would be for saponizing (? is that the term?) other supplements. One powders and dries his own wheat grass and is going to try that.

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    I just got myself a new ultrasonic cleaner from ebay and will give it a try... I do a lot of urine therapy and don't feel I need it, but my wife doesn't and is having good effects with vitamin C and drinking distilled water although she is getting the runs (not sure if it is vit C or the 3-4 litre of distilled water a day)... although I've been getting mild detox effect with just distilled water and urine therapy in the 4litre's per day amount...

    The ultraosnic cleaner I got was £60 from Belgium inc postage
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2607424542...84.m1439.l2649

    ...and has the 2.5 litre heated tank as recommended.

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    Here is the model that I bought and am very happy with:

    http://ultrasonicsdirect.com/shheuljeclst1.html

    ($198)

    I can make 3 batches at one time in it which I then pour into old Perrier 750ml bottles and store in frig for the week - which for me is plenty. 3 batches uses up one and a half Perrier bottles. I drink about 4-6 shot glasses of the mixture every day.

    One of the reasons I prefer this US machine over the first one I bought from Harbor freight ($30) beside the fact that the small one could only hold one batch is the cleanup. The small one has plastic that catches the drips and you cannot get the mix out of it after a while. Eventually, I imagine, it will short out.

    The recipe:

    [Keep in mind that I triple this for one batch in my larger US machine.]

    Ingredients:

    1 tablespoon ascorbic acid (aka AA) (if you want to skip the buffering process buy sodium ascorbate instead of the ascorbic acid) (Pure Bulk online site)
    1.5 teaspoons aluminum free baking soda (Bob's Red Mill) (local natural grocery store)
    3 tablespoons nonGMO soy lecithin granules (if you want to avoid soy, get sunflower lecithin and use 1 tablespoon) (local natural grocery store or online can find NOW brand)
    distilled water (I make my own)

    Process:

    --4 ounces distilled water and the AA go into a blender (or use stick blender)
    --add the baking soda a little at a time until the foaming calms down and then blend for a minute. (you are trying to get a neutral pH here so you may want to use Ph strips to be really sure)
    --add 8 ounces more distilled water and the lecithin and blend again for 2 minutes
    --put into US machine and let run for 30 minutes.
    --pour into dark glass bottles (old wine bottles work well)

    One shot glass is about 1.5 grams of C with this recipe) I have taken a whole 750ml bottle of this in a day and not had any bowel problems, which you cannot do with plain AA - you will get diarrhea.

    This group is a great source of ongoing experimentation and help. The people there had done this with Glutathione powder and other antioxidants as well.

    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DIY-LET/

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    Quote Posted by frozen alchemy (here)
    BUMP! There's a fascinating ongoing discussion about liposomal Vitamin C going on over at ATS:

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread846311/pg1
    from the link above...

    "..It has also given me vast sexual energy and random erections like as if i have ate a bunch of ginseng. I cant give enough thumbs up to this stuff"

    lol... This should be fun!!! Can't wait now to get it
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    The recipe:
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    1.5 teaspoons aluminum free baking soda (Bob's Red Mill) (local natural grocery store)
    I thought most baking soda's were aluminum free - all just sodium bicarbonate.

    It's the baking powder that typically has aluminum. See further http://www.crunchybetty.com/the-grea...soda-anti-hoax .

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    --pour into dark glass bottles (old wine bottles work well)
    I would have figured that refrigeration was important (to keep the lecithin from going rancid), but I had not realised that keeping light out was important. I store it in clear glass Mason jars, and had not noticed a problem even after a few weeks. Am I missing something ?
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