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    Hello. I applied to join this community recently because I felt it would be the likeliest forum to discover any like minded individuals with which to begin conversations around the post-Empire world as utilising elements of infinite possibility could envision and create . I've been quietly observing many of the threads here and have decided that a post of my perspective may be the best way to start. So here it is, not definitively, but a start.

    I do not personally experience a world in which 'reality' is a solid concept or perspective. I know that there are those who do and who oftentimes as a result believe that their ability to 'collectively' (superiority in numbers or the 'democratic rule') demonstrate a solid state of some kind or another indicates that these evidences prove a solid state more 'real' than that of others. I have so many personal experiences of why this isn't so that it made discussing such things with most 'solid state' adherents extremely difficult; this post is my first attempt to discuss such things and present my perspectives openly to others- outside my tiny intimacy circle- in almost 15 years. 'Solid state' ways of being to those that don't exist in it can be the equivalent of having acid poured over the nervous system and I simply decided, all them yars ago, not to experience it anymore; I'm coming out of my shell now (or more accurately, being lovingly kicked out) so here I am.

    My understanding of how I work is this: there is no possible way for any other individual, of any species at all, to truly understand and agree with my experience because any such individual would have to literally become me to truly resonate with and understand my experience of Self. Currently in this physical dimension we do not even possess accurate ways of discerning if we perceive colour the same as the next individual: we can hear the word 'red' and all point to it but where is the *definitive proof* that we are all *experiencing* this 'red' the same way? (colourblindness not considered, and even with that there is no definitive proof that the individual is not simply experiencing 'red' differently, in another context).

    Synesthesia demonstrates these ideas in a really beautiful way: no synesthete has exactly the same experience as another even when they share the same kind of synesthesia, which is only labelled thus because there are other, non-synesthete ways of experiencing the world: if all experienced synesthesia then discussions would have the potential to be mutual explorations- this is how *I* experience this, how is it for you?- rather than lumping the experience under the banner label 'synesthesia'. And therein is part of the base platform that I operate from, exploration and experience rather than definition.

    We are all, in our Sui Generis existence, synesthetes uniquely experiencing this physical incarnation- and our experience of existence in any form or plane- in our eternally unique and Singular way. There may be areas of shared experience but that does not equate with shared perception and processing of these experiences- these will always remain unique to the individual, hence part of their irreproducable signal in the Field. The universal energy does not bother replicating *anything* exactly, as snowflakes and daisy fields can attest, so why would it be interested in creating Beings that can have identical responses? That, to me, is the idea of the Borg, which is redundant in a living, thriving Multiverse- not even bees are identical, they simply speak a base language together that allows them to work harmoniously.

    Some of my questions are these: if, as a group that experiences itself as being of one species (a perspective I do not personally hold) there is incessant, insistent and oftentimes virilent/violent resistance to the idea that the universe may be nothing like what *we* personally experience/perceive it to be (as evidenced by the widely different experiences and perspectives of individuals around us), why in the name of everything interesting would *any other species* not interested in Borg like homogeny be keen to make public contact? How can anything truly evolutionary happen on this planet with so many individuals vigorously applying the rule of Solid State Anything and Everything to one another? What if the 'point' of existence in any form is to be a unique vessel for the infinitely possible, be it in substance form or the ability to create and run astounding thought/quantum reality experiments?

    Within this infinitely rich and complex field, one of the few constants that I have found is choice- we are absolutely free to make whatever choices we wish, just as we are free to experience the consequences of those choices. Setting aside the choice to harm another, my personal view is that my choices are all about exploring who I/we am/are, wish to be, could possibly be and the way this influences/transforms our experience and perception, thus participating in an ever fluid and evolving feedback loop with the Field. To me this is a vastly more satisfying, wonderful and fun way of living than the pursuit of 'what is REAL', because I discovered as a child that my personal 'real' made other people scream at me and often beat me with things, oftentimes to the point of hospitalisation and on three occasions, life support. There is something deeply and profoundly dissonant with a species that is prepared to wage war, destroy their young, their future and their planet and generally engage in a massive propaganda campaign in the name of 'WE are right! YOU are wrong!'- so absolutely afraid of anything at all.

    I will be perfectly honest- I have never identified as human, from the moment I could speak; I told my mother I wasn't 'from here', that I came from 'out there' (pointing to the sky and the ground simultaneously). Bad things happened as a result of this, which are not the subject of this post, but suffice to say I got a long and deep experience of just what some individuals will do when threatened with 'other'. Have things changed so little that even in such a place as this forum the need for 'rules of thought' or neatly defined experiences that fit in with the paradigms of the individual are so paramount that a subtle frequency representation of the intolerance I experienced as a child is still being espoused and practiced?

    My simple question to this, given all that we have learned in the last 40 odd years, is- why does that need to be so? What is so threatening about another way of viewing/experiencing/perceiving things that it needs to be 'moderated', controlled, kept isolated and viewed as somehow inferior to something labelled 'rational'? As a Being whose family is entirely used to me being interrupted in conversation by *other* conversations with individuals unseen, as someone who stops in mid-sentence and stares off into space while getting information downloads, who talks in 'strange' languages during sleep, who frequently slips out of this dimensional experience and into others because I like to, just to name a few of the many 'non-rational' things I do- what category does this leave *me* in? Am I required to submit 'proof' for my experience, just as my teachers demanded I prove where I learned things from, because they couldn't comprehend how I could 'just know' things so I *obviously* must have been lying?

    Can we do things another way? What if the foundational paradigm of a planetary consciousness was the preservation of the unique Singularity's experience, guarded and nurtured from pre-conception onwards? What if one of the paramount understandings was the absolute respect and fascination for the unique aspect of the universal hologram that each individual Being is a fractal aspect of? What if part of our way of Being was the desire to enrich our experience and perspective of the All by welcoming multiple and disparate ways of perceiving/experiencing everything, rather than the desire for containment, with a view to eliminating, anything 'other'?

    This is the meaning behind my username, because my personal mission at this time is to sing the Songs for the Otherkind, those who experience their reality as non-human, Other, in whatever way that manifests, who are struggling within a miasm of rigidity and 'solid state' that tries to stifle and smother the knowing within so that these perspectives are silenced. I am not bothered by the desire of those who need/want/prefer/enjoy Solid State because at this point I can *choose* to not participate in that space if I'm not interested in it in that moment, just as others can choose not to participate in mine.

    I do not believe there has to be any suggestion of 'less than', 'wrong' or anything else within those choices- some choose monogamy, some choose polyamoury, some choose hetero, others choose metro and this is part of the joyful inheritance of Being- choice. With the exception of inflicting harm on another Being or expression of sentient Life, how can any choice be wrong? Where things get bent is when we start to believe that our particular brand of whatever is THE brand, the ONLY brand, that can be 'right' and the correct measure of 'what is'.

    Mmm. So I'm interested in creating a space with post-propaganda/Empire consciousness, a space where the gathered collective gets to experiment with and experience a platform that in part has a core that supports, encourages and exists in a continuum of constant evolution in every expression. The current planetary social collective is going through massive upheaval, distress and destruction because it does *not* have a fluid and embracing philosophy of welcoming and absorbing constant evolution, from the individual Singularity to the planetary to the Universal level- and this not only seems counterintuitive to me as a Being, it also appears to have unhelpful and painful consequences on a global level.

    Is there a core here on this board that is practicing this fluid state understanding as a foundation for Doing Things In More Interesting Ways? Can we start to create and live into a more fluid way of Being, thinking, perceiving? I'm personally fascinated, excited, inspired and drawn to this, rather than looking at what *doesn't* work- which can often be discovered if you try to expand the idea/whatever through the entire frequency- for example, have you ever stopped to consider that being *warm blooded*, mammalian, actually changes your experience and perception of the Universe? Ever tried being something that is physically incarnate and *doesn't* have a heartbeat, endocrine system , lungs or bloodflow? One's *entire* perspective of the physical realm alters absolutely, yet who is to say that the warm blooded/mammalian experience is 'preferable' due to some nebulous or assumed inherent superiority? Some of the most amazing and spiritual Beings I have had contact with are like this, no heartbeat etc, and it's boggling and beautiful to be able to share their experience, akin to that of the self appointed superiority of the West coming into contact with some of the true beauty and grace present within some native cultures.

    This is a time/space point where a massive maturing of the many species here is happening- I would like to have some conversations regarding what a more embracive and 'mature' perspective might and can look like, and extend the experience of holding this space for one another even if I don't choose to participate in or resonate with the particular perspective being espoused. I personally feel that 'you don't think/look/behave like me= there's something wrong with YOU' (in however subtle an expression this might manifest) is a low vibration paradigm that had its day a long time ago...

    In peace and evolution always.

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    Default Re: Perspectives on being a Singularity.

    Welcome to avalon!
    Your post makes sense and the virtues you seek for yourself are available here. The community you seek shall find you.


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    Default Re: Perspectives on being a Singularity.

    You spend the first half your post saying that no 2 humans are alike. No big surprise to anyone there.
    Then the second half saying your not human anyway.

    In the middle there you say

    "Have things changed so little that even in such a place as this forum the need for 'rules of thought' or neatly defined experiences that fit in with the paradigms of the individual are so paramount that a subtle frequency representation of the intolerance I experienced as a child is still being espoused and practiced?
    My simple question to this, given all that we have learned in the last 40 odd years, is- why does that need to be so? What is so threatening about another way of viewing/experiencing/perceiving things that it needs to be 'moderated', controlled, kept isolated and viewed as somehow inferior to something labelled 'rational'?"

    I am new here too but I haven't seen the "intolerance" you speak of on this forum. Questioning, yes, discussion, sometimes heated. But genuine passion and love for each other. At least for the most part. Always going to be a few bead eggs.

    But here is my real issue. I appreciate what you said in your post, but why are so many so anxious to disown the body that currently contains you? Should we not enjoy the vessel while we are here? Yes there is a greater side to it all. One that no one fully understand but we all attain too. But the goal, in my opinion is a perfect harmony of Mind, and Body.
    We might only be on earth for a small part of the big picture,but that shouldn't discredit the time we are here.

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    My post was made with some other threads in mind- and to clarify, I'm not talking about 'intolerance' as such, I'm discussing the subtle expressions of that which towards one end of the polar extreme is expressed as intolerance. I am aware that in many conversations- not specifically here, but in the general- the orbit of the conversation is held around the extreme ends of any subject but that's not where I usually go- I'm more into the subtle expressions and energies that create the foundation for monumental cock ups (to use the technical term).

    My perspective is that anything that carries the seeds of dissonance is the fertile ground for dissonance springing back up yet again- as I'm not interested in anything which might give fertile ground to recreating Empire as it's been expressed here on this planet, I'm interested in exploring the ways of Being that leave no play for the re-emergence of Empire or its possible offspring.

    Quote but why are so many so anxious to disown the body that currently contains you? Should we not enjoy the vessel while we are here? ... We might only be on earth for a small part of the big picture,but that shouldn't discredit the time we are here.
    /headtilt/ I am confused as to in what part I gave the impression that I wish to disown my current physical vessel- I did not express my personal preference at all, but had I done so I would have emphatically declared my preference for INcarnation rather than non-corporeal form. I do NOT like disembodiment at all, don't see it as the pinnacle of existence and actually find your conclusion interesting. What is your perception that would lead you to conclude that if someone does not identify as 'human' they are automatically referring to a non-physical state? I most definitely prefer and love the physical realms, do not at all resonate with the idea that evolution means DISincarnation or non-corporeal form and have every intention of remaining and wish to remain in a corporeal state, which is my long term experience- it's quite possible to skip the non-corporeal if one wishes.

    There are *many* kinds of non-human...
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    spiritguide-

    Quote Welcome to avalon!
    Thank you. :D It's definitely an interesting environment.

    Quote Your post makes sense and the virtues you seek for yourself are available here. The community you seek shall find you.
    I certainly hope so- thought experiments only go so far and it's such an amazing time to be on the planet. *happydance*

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    You could imagine a state where all humans have total acess to all information
    available to all humans all the time. How is this done without curtailing free choice?
    The problem with free choice is that it doesnt stop anyone from acting in a way that
    could harm the total humanity and the planet. How to build in a fail safe so such an
    action would be impossible? I dunno how it could be done but think it demands an
    outstanding maturity and accountability that very few posess today. But I do think
    we have to get there. Any ideas?


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    I think the state being mentioned only occurs when the individual is ready. (responsible and compassionate)
    I will have to re read several times to comment though.

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    Some Budda Quotes:

    Your body is precious. It is our vehicle for awakening. Treat it with care.

    All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think, we become.

    We live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is reality. We are that reality. When you understand this, you see that you are nothing , and being nothing, you are everything. That is all.

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    You're going to 'create' this space? No you're not, you're going to allow it to occur, when you're ready. That would be right now if you really wanted it bad enough. I wouldn't wait around for a consensus because you won't get one.
    And it won't look or feel anything like you have it planned.

    You got the words and ideas arranged kind of nicely, and that's a nice place to play in the meantime. Just be sure to take responsibility for everything you see now that isn't how you want it, and you'll be okay.
    And don't hold on to any of those ideas or you'll miss the surprise while you're lamenting them.

    'Singularity' means 'you - singular'. Not a bunch of others with your ideas.
    You singularly are the problem and the solution.
    “Out beyond ideas of right doing and wrong doing there is a field. I'll meet you there.”
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    I believe that free choice is limited by Universal Principles: the one that I adhere to is that my expression of Self is free to the point where it encroaches on the Self of another. Thus murder, rape, all the old 'common law' crimes against the Being of another, are part of this law. I do not consider the 'ten commandments' part of this because there are flaws in that document; I believe- and have personally experienced- that there are superior ways of dealing with other Beings.

    May I point you to something that I have personally found intriguing, thought provoking and challenging? http://royhalliday.home.mindspring.com/MYBOOK.HTM#toc I do not at all espouse all the ideas contained in this book and at the same time it provides a really interesting and thorough foundation for considering what 'rights' are- and are not- and how these might operate in a differently thinking society. I would be very interested to hear your opinion, because a profound paradigm shift in perspectives and understanding is going to be challenging for all at one point or another: the way that I see it is, the more that we can have the discussions while holding onto the awareness that at some point *something* is going to bake our noodle, then the more we can supportively create truly evolving community. It's my personal perspective, anyway.

    Here are some of my ideas, seeings as you asked.. :D

    That the Singularity expressed as a sentient Being is understood to be Sui Generis (which is a latin term that describes something that is one of a kind, unique, a jurisdiction unto itself, etc) and thus cannot be described within the confines of 'species' or any other label that seeks to diminish the fullness of the Being's unique frequency and expression within the framework of the Multiverse.

    (What does this mean practically? It means that no individual Being, or group of Beings, can be defined as a species, race, nation or any other title that they do not personally choose for themselves; should they choose to identify themselves in some way with a group this does not entitle any other Being to use such identifiers as a way of defining a group for the purposes of oppressing, diminishing the equal standing with all other Beings or construing the individual or group as one to be targeted, enslaved, dominated or any other act that, by intention or result, robs any Being of their Sui Generis place in the Universe. It's important stuff, because the roots of all oppression begin with the foundations that some Beings are in some way superior to others and frequently race or religion are used in generic ways. Sui Generis as a description removes *any* terms that could be attempted to define an individual with the intention to have some kind of power over them. )

    The Sui Generis state of all sentient Beings confers an inherent, unalienable and inalienable right absolut to self determination, self management, security in all aspects of Being, including the supported right to end life if this is desired. As each sentient Being has these rights to absolute sanctity of Self, no other Being can infringe upon the physical, emotional, spiritual, psychological, etheric or any other experience of corporeal or non-corporeal existence that is capable of being expressed.

    The fundamental understanding that a Being cannot own that which it has not created. This means that children are not the 'property' of their parents because while it is true that the genetic material for the child comes from a parental source, they did not create this material themselves, did not create or direct the myriads of complex chemical and biological processes that are involved in a successful conception, gestation and birth. The parents are *trustees*, not Grantors, and as such are charged, as are all other Beings, with guarding and nurturing the Sui Generis state of their child and all children.

    This principle also applies to all planetary body resources- land, air, water, food, all other planetary species, biological or otherwise. No Being can lay claim to ownership of any land or any other resource because the Being did not make it. This also ensures that elements are not valued for their 'economic worth'- a bracelet made of diamonds is not valued because of the materials, as a craftsman could not claim the 'value' of the materials, only the value of their work- they did not create the materials, they simply refashioned them. In this way, the value of every effort of every Being, no matter how humble, is seen as equal to that of every other Being, thus making a merit-based economy void. All economies are made void with these understandings.

    This would create a world populated by individual Sui Generis Beings that understand that the limit of their domain is their own aura; that they have no jurisdiction over any other Being but themselves, including the right to self defense in the case of an attempt to violate their Being or harm their life. There would be no ownership of land (cannot own that which one has not created), no commerce or economy (all Beings are equally entitled to pure food, water, air, health care and all that is required to help them fulfill their purpose and intent in the particular incarnation they have chosen), cannot in any way harm, pollute or diminish any planetary body (cannot own that which one has not created); children would be seen as full and inherent individuals from pre-conception onwards, treasured by the entire planetary community and there would be zero tolerance for any child being in need of any kind; no Being would be devalued because of level of ability, understanding, or experience; no Being would be without the needed care, support or assistance required. No harm to sentient life would be acceptable.

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    markpierre- to me, creation and allowing are an intertwined process. Without consciousness, which to me includes experimenting, playing with ideas, explorations and other conscious processes, one is simply adrift in the Field- certainly, there is the ability to experience in that unconscious process, but I'm not personally into that. I have no issue with those that enjoy it, it's just not for me. So I allow by showing up to the canvas, with my materials around me and my willingness to surrender to the creative process- I can allow all I want on the couch but I have to position myself in front of the canvas if I want the painting.

    In that context, I am deliberately creating the space here for something to happen, with a particular goal in mind- I want a painting and I'm prepared for that to show up, like it does, in its own way. I don't hold onto ideas- I'm a Creative, holding on is absolutely counter-intuitive for true creativity and flow.

    I know what Singularity means, I was using the term very deliberately because it's been my experience that in an environment devoid of physical and energetic cues much misunderstanding can happen. Language, like everything else, is subjective and I recognise care needs to be used with even the most seemingly simple of terms. I am very careful with language for various reasons, so my care here is intended to convey in the least inflammatory terms my ideas. In the 'real' world I fling my hands around when I talk, move continuously, am often considered overwhelmingly intense, I use my body language and sign to communicate when English is either woefully inadequate or completely lacking in words (such as, a richly descriptive word for 'is/is not' when both are true in the moment, I/we when both are true in the moment, a non-gender specific term for a Being other than the bland 'they', etc). I do not believe that being careful with one's words indicates I'm crafting a nice place to play, nor am I waiting around for a consensus, neither of which I originally suggested, unless asking for a conversation with a particular perspective of exploration in mind is asking for a consensus.

    I am not interested in getting a bunch of proselytes together to espouse my ideas- I'm interested in co-creation and the exploration of what might work. I am aware that I am both problem and solution in my singular Universe *and* I do not take this to mean I have to keep to myself, reach for no interaction, accept everything that comes my way, tolerate everything and every Being or seek nothing at all.

    Thank you for letting me know that you think I don't know what I'm doing or am not aware of the points that you make. I don't know how you concluded this from my initial post, but it was interesting that you did.

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    This is a topic of some serious gravity :D

    All things are subject to intepretation, and whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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    Quote Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)

    Thank you for letting me know that you think I don't know what I'm doing or am not aware of the points that you make. I don't know how you concluded this from my initial post, but it was interesting that you did.
    No worries. It's too simple and true to be wounding, so I hope you can avoid embellishing it for that purpose.

    Glad you clarified your definition. You're right, language is completely subjective.

    But I think what you said in your first post is on it. We can do things a different way. See things, hear things, view things, conceive things entirely differently. There is no speculation possible from this viewpoint.
    What if you actually experienced that everything was you? Would anything you think now have any meaning for you?
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    songsfortheotherkind i get what you are saying ,and i respect your courage to stick to your understandings and explore them further, but you might be a little dissapointed to discover that many come to this forum only to check about Et's latest updates, or news and comfort from the words of ''gods'' from the upper densities. Few are really interested in exploring from top to bottom, with their words and not quotes from jesus or budha , what they experience. My suggestion, dont waste your energy with long posts , unless you have news from ''upstairs'' or some ''gossip'' about them, or if you choose to do so reconsider your expectations about the forum you joined. Its not right or wrong ,its what it is .

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    I think you should continue to express in you own unique way.
    Truth is that many who are not members visit this forum and read all kinds of threads.
    The number of people that read a post is not that important though your perspective is and obviously its good to air it..

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    Hi songsfortheotherkind,

    You've made some very interesting points to ponder, thanks.

    I've often wondered about how we see things, such as colour as you mentioned; how do we really know anyone else sees exactly as we do, apart from the basic matching up that seems to occur from differeing perspectives?

    This makes me think about things such as people who can see auras; I cannot at the moment (as far as I'm aware) but I do not dismiss the possibility simply because I haven't experienced it for myself - that I can remember at least.
    Getting trapped into a if I cannot see it or experience it then it's not possible frame of mind is very limiting I'd imagine and I don't wish to go there personally.

    Perhaps being a physical being (as we know it) is all about being an individual and having our own unique experiences and perspectives. Perhaps that unique experience is what we bring back to the Borg collective () when we pass over back to a more collective conciousness - if that is what actually occurs.

    Although, I imagine knowing everything and being everything would be a great experience, wouldn't it sure get a bit dull after a little while when there's nothing left to learn or discover? Perhaps that's part of why we focus our conciousness down to such an individual perspective, to experience these unique perspectives and wonders of discovery etc and bring something unique back.

    Sorry for the seemingly random trains of thought there, but you have sparked a few interesting things to think about.

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    Quote Posted by markpierre (here)

    No worries. It's too simple and true to be wounding, so I hope you can avoid embellishing it for that purpose.
    I genuinely don't understand what you mean by the last part of this sentence, it's too open to multiple interpretation for me to get the intent of. Would you be open to clarifying this for me?

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    Quote Glad you clarified your definition. You're right, language is completely subjective.
    I learned long ago that the misinterpretation, intentional or accidental, of what is being said is frequently the start of most violence and uproar on the planet. I like being careful with language, particularly as a visual/spatial kinesthetic in a non visual/spatial non-kinesthetic environment.

    Quote But I think what you said in your first post is on it. We can do things a different way. See things, hear things, view things, conceive things entirely differently. There is no speculation possible from this viewpoint.
    I am at a loss again- are you saying that there is no speculation possible from the perspective of seeing/hearing/viewing or conceiving new things? As one who spends a large portion of her life in thought experiments, I don't experience this, unless you are using 'speculation' in a way that leaves out the exploration aspect that it contains for me. For me personally, 'speculation' does not rely on the limitations of old ways of thinking but rather a free ranging 'what if..?'

    Quote What if you actually experienced that everything was you? Would anything you think now have any meaning for you?
    Meaning, hmm- I'm aware of the parameters of 'meaning' and have personally come to the conclusion that any meaning I decide to hold about anything is simply the perspective that I've chosen from which to explore something, it has no inherent significance in and of itself. It's more like lying there with lots of bits of colored cellophane and wondering 'hmm, what does it look like through a red piece? A purple piece? What happens if I hold these two bits up together?'. It doesn't mean anything, it's just what I'm exploring, or playing dress ups with.

    I understand the 'everything is me' perspective, I've sat with it, explored my personal experiences from that perspective and now I'm interested in exploring other things: it is, in the end, all exploration, all experimentation. One *could* choose to sit on a rock all one's life and do nothing because there is 'nothing to do', but that's not the choice I'm making. It's all my Art, in the moment, this life that I'm participating in, all a result of the kind of Creator and Artist I'm choosing to be and express in that moment. Personally, just as I find I don't resonate with all the Art in any given gallery, I don't resonate with all the options the Universe in me presents and just like I get to choose which Art I get to have in my life, I also get to choose which Artists I want to hang out with. One individual's load of rubbish is the next individual's masterpiece, so do I have to have every piece of Art ever created hanging in my personal space just so I can claim to be embracing All that Is? *grinning* Heh, that would be noooooooo....

    So, again, while I am aware of the myriads of infinite possibilities, one of the possibilities is conscious creation of whatever, with all that goes along with such a choice. I'm exploring conscious creation while being utterly aware that there are infinite other possibilities present simultaneously. It's just a choice.

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    Quote Posted by tonius (here)
    songsfortheotherkind i get what you are saying ,and i respect your courage to stick to your understandings and explore them further, but you might be a little dissapointed to discover that many come to this forum only to check about Et's latest updates, or news and comfort from the words of ''gods'' from the upper densities. Few are really interested in exploring from top to bottom, with their words and not quotes from jesus or budha , what they experience. My suggestion, dont waste your energy with long posts , unless you have news from ''upstairs'' or some ''gossip'' about them, or if you choose to do so reconsider your expectations about the forum you joined. Its not right or wrong ,its what it is .
    *grinning* Long posts aren't a choice, they're how I write, because I write the way my brain works, in a process. So I'm not bothered by the writing even if no-one cares to read it, it's all part of exploring my process and observations.

    My decision to communicate here wasn't about a numbers game- if I only discover one Being with whom I truly mutually resonate, then I will consider it an excellent outcome in addition to the experience of connecting with others in different ways.

    I don't have a particular agenda, so I don't have particular expectations. It's all about the curiosity, you see... :D

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    Quote Posted by Nerge (here)
    Hi songsfortheotherkind,

    You've made some very interesting points to ponder, thanks.
    You are welcome. I'm glad to be pimping my personal delight in exploring Fun Stuff.

    Quote I've often wondered about how we see things, such as colour as you mentioned; how do we really know anyone else sees exactly as we do, apart from the basic matching up that seems to occur from differeing perspectives? This makes me think about things such as people who can see auras; I cannot at the moment (as far as I'm aware) but I do not dismiss the possibility simply because I haven't experienced it for myself - that I can remember at least. Getting trapped into a if I cannot see it or experience it then it's not possible frame of mind is very limiting I'd imagine and I don't wish to go there personally.
    As a synesthete who didn't realise that others couldn't taste words or experience colours as a physical sensation, it was a very bewildering world for me as communication seemed to be incredibly limited. There are some amazing perspectives in the world- try looking up youtube videos made by talented 'autistics' (which translates into 'doesn't behave/think/experience like *we normal people* do, therefore a label to define 'not us' is necessary') and experience how they describe their world. There are some amazing videos out there.

    Quote Perhaps being a physical being (as we know it) is all about being an individual and having our own unique experiences and perspectives. Perhaps that unique experience is what we bring back to the Borg collective () when we pass over back to a more collective conciousness - if that is what actually occurs.
    My experience, observation and perspective is that the Universe is constantly evolving into greater complexity and subtlety of signal, so having Beings with the capacity for unique observation, feedback, creative perspectives, abilities, interests and infinite other manifestations of frequency is part of the richness of the tapestry. At least in my Universe.

    Quote Although, I imagine knowing everything and being everything would be a great experience, wouldn't it sure get a bit dull after a little while when there's nothing left to learn or discover? Perhaps that's part of why we focus our conciousness down to such an individual perspective, to experience these unique perspectives and wonders of discovery etc and bring something unique back.
    Personally, I have no desire to 'know' everything, the same as I have no interest in the concept of 'perfection', both of which are end games for me, the end of the possibility of further evolution. It has been my observation that everything that reaches this point ends up becoming extinct, because the Universe can no longer do anything with the energy. All closed systems end up decaying and disappearing. I cannot see any end point with infinite possibility, so I'm dancing in that place.

    Quote Sorry for the seemingly random trains of thought there, but you have sparked a few interesting things to think about.
    Why be sorry for trains of thought?
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