What is this Crest

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
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regards to you whatever DeDukshyn
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I'm not sure what this means .. .If it means "screw off" .. then don't present it like that. just say it. I don't have feelings to be hurt by.

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by passiglight (here)
Hi Roman,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

Looks like a chivalric order,,,,looks masonic to me and feminine in appearance.........

Hope you are well friend

Hi passiglight

Nice to hear from you, yes I thought that it was Masonic and feminine which I think would be rare, unless high ranking female, don't as yet know, but we are getting somewhere, will see.

Thank you passiglight and my regards to you and L as always
roman

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
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regards to you whatever DeDukshyn
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I'm not sure what this means .. .If it means "screw off" .. then don't present it like that. just say it. I don't have feelings to be hurt by.

Wow there DeDukshyn, where on earth did you get that from, by my expression it meant that you could be right, which I agreed with, meaning whatever, could be right, could be wrong, sorry by my bad expression, never meant to upset you there DeDukshyn, I am grateful for your help and interest that you have shown here, I apologies for the misunderstanding.

my sincerest regards to you DeDukshyn

roman

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
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regards to you whatever DeDukshyn
...

I'm not sure what this means .. .If it means "screw off" .. then don't present it like that. just say it. I don't have feelings to be hurt by.

Wow there DeDukshyn, where on earth did you get that from, by my expression it meant that you could be right, which I agreed with, meaning whatever, could be right, could be wrong, sorry by my bad expression, never meant to upset you there DeDukshyn, I am grateful for your help and interest that you have shown here, I apologies for the misunderstanding.

my sincerest regards to you DeDukshyn

roman

I'm not upset at all! I really appreciate you, but I AM all for very clear clear communications -- I was just very confused with the way you worded it. no apologies needed! I wasn't introducing emotion .. but the type of bluntness I presented was likely very unexpected as it is not politically correct (with no apologies). No offense taken (nor intended) and thank you for clarifying!

D

[Ellisa]

Roman- There is a saying- "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it". We need to be aware of what exactly we humans are capable of . We should not forget that we are all capable of some horrific atrocities as well as petty cruelties, but we can also be glad when we are witness to the good that we see around us every day. History needs to tell both sides of our human behaviour, and we should acknowledge it. Hiding facts does not help.

Your search through the symbolic meanings behind the design of this crest, which is of significance to your heritage, is showing how much history is involved and how it extends even into our modern lives. How do you feel about the suggestions so far so far?

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
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regards to you whatever DeDukshyn
...

I'm not sure what this means .. .If it means "screw off" .. then don't present it like that. just say it. I don't have feelings to be hurt by.

Wow there DeDukshyn, where on earth did you get that from, by my expression it meant that you could be right, which I agreed with, meaning whatever, could be right, could be wrong, sorry by my bad expression, never meant to upset you there DeDukshyn, I am grateful for your help and interest that you have shown here, I apologies for the misunderstanding.

my sincerest regards to you DeDukshyn

roman

I'm not upset at all! I really appreciate you, but I AM all for very clear clear communications -- I was just very confused with the way you worded it. no apologies needed! I wasn't introducing emotion .. but the type of bluntness I presented was likely very unexpected as it is not politically correct (with no apologies). No offense taken (nor intended) and thank you for clarifying!

D

Please don't disappear on me DeDukshyn, if you find this thread interesting, which I see that you do, please continue, I am grateful for your contribution.

regards to you again DeDukshyn

roman

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by Ellisa (here)
Roman- There is a saying- "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it". We need to be aware of what exactly we humans are capable of . We should not forget that we are all capable of some horrific atrocities as well as petty cruelties, but we can also be glad when we are witness to the good that we see around us every day. History needs to tell both sides of our human behaviour, and we should acknowledge it. Hiding facts does not help.

Your search through the symbolic meanings behind the design of this crest, which is of significance to your heritage, is showing how much history is involved and how it extends even into our modern lives. How do you feel about the suggestions so far so far?

HI Ellisa

Firstly I totally agree with you, it seems that I have again in this case also not expressed my self properly, I expressed how futile the history lesson were that we have had already, and that no change has occurred by the event of this world right now, which means exactly ( I hope) what you are saying, that for all the history lessons, were are still repeating the nonsense, making the same mistakes.

Most grateful and my regards to you again Ellisa

roman

[DeDukshyn]

I've tried to search for the image with some image search sites but with no avail.

Ok, so I will try to break it down here from my POV in case there may be a clue in it ..

There's left dark and a right light elements. The flower appears pine cone or maybe dogwood? (I retract poppy as a four petaled flower). The upper extended elements appear to be horns to me - things that "speak", "dictate" or "draw forth". They extend from a crown? The shield is fully dark ... hmm dark shield that is an interesting concept for me. shield obviously represents defense, or contentedness, or security. Yet the "flower" is white, and the collar supporting the crown is white. I get mixed messages from this. But have nothing to offer in practical terms.

[Carmody]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
I would like to ask you my learned friends if anyone can understand the symbolism of this crest, it was given to me when I was 13 years old by a most wonderful lady, right after her husband died. She had given birth to 3 children, all over 11 pounds each and had an extremely rare blood, which was always a big burden to her at giving birth and
further calamities of life. None of her children inherited the rare blood group, which was a blessing to her wonderful heart.

That Lady was my mother, and this is all we have left of her families crest. She died 2 years ago today on her 90th year.

I have been waiting for somebody to ask me what my avatar was, and nobody did.

So anyways, it looks like I am an illuminati bastard, and the bastards forgot about me, hehe

SO I would really be interested what the hell it means, this was a hand copy from the British museum 50 years ago, the guy who was doing this for my parents died, and thats as far as it went.

Fathers connection is all top brass military and law, Mothers connection to the Czechoslovakian throne.

Now any comments on me being a Illuninati bastard will not end up as a smack on the face, but the traditional removal of a face, hehehe.

Regards to all, what do you thing???

roman

My first hint was that the five pointed star was inverted, in both cases.

understanding the older context of the striping in heraldry is critical, I think. This also plays from the century and the country from which the crest comes from, regarding the meanings.

[Dorjezigzag]

Horns are an interesting one, many people question why much medievel art seems to depict moses and the angels with horns, they are in fact rays of light.Laterly Chagall played on this in his art.

Within heraldry and art in general there is often that which the unitiated will 'see' and that which the initiated will percieve. A secret language of symbols. This is a tradition often seen in the works of leonardo and Dali.

Yes they can be seen as horns but look they are also trumpets and they follow the curve of the lyre. Here are some further examples which illustrate my point.



By the way this is not some made up theory of mine, this is accepted by scholars.

I conclude with a quote

Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet, praise him with the harp and lyre, Psalm 150:3

[Ellisa]

That is so interesting Dorjezigzag. In view of your quote-- would the origin of these crests lie in service in Holy Wars (maybe the medieval crusades) perhaps?

This topic is exploring a really interesting area I think. I do hope Roman is enjoying the variety of the individual suggestions. Plenty of room for research!

[ROMANWKT]

Thank you all for your help and interest, but will call it a day on this. I found enough information to tell me its POLISH, and those that assumed that the horns were a German connection are correct.

Now you can see what is basically a finished crest.

Thank you all for your help

roman

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PS I apologize that some people cant see anything unless logged in, but after 4 attempts to bring out the images, no response, therefore will ask the mods if they can help.

[Earth Angel]

ok so if I have Rh negative and a rather longer than usual tail bone, does this make me a reptile ?? ( I am going on the fact that when I had kids I had to have as shot of something or my blood was at risk of fighting the babies ??) I was young and didn't ask questions then......maybe I got it all wrong.....sorry if I am taking this OT

Posted by Darla Ken Jensen Pearce (here)
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Posted by starchild111 (here)
Here is an interesting thread discussing blood-types (particularly rh neg.) from Davidn Ike.com forum. I think its a connection between rh negative and the reptilian races.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=51245

No, this is not correct.

"If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is Not processing oxygen properly. Thus "Blue-Bloods", if they survive. 5% of the Earth's population are currently Rh-Negatives. But, they are 15% of the population of the England and the USA."

If an Rh-Neg and an Rh-Pos have a child it can be a Blue Baby. Nothing happens when two RH-negatives or two RH-positives have a child, the RH factor doesn't kick in at all. If this element is wrong in such a statement, it is possible other aspects are mistaken as well. It's a pretty serious error.

[Paul]

Posted by Earth Angel (here)
ok so if I have Rh negative and a rather longer than usual tail bone, does this make me a reptile ?? ( I am going on the fact that when I had kids I had to have as shot of something or my blood was at risk of fighting the babies ??) I was young and didn't ask questions then......maybe I got it all wrong.....sorry if I am taking this OT

The shot (two Rh immune-globulin shots ) and the situation (Rh negative mother, Rh positive father, subsequent births after having an Rh positive child) are explained here: http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregnan...gnancy/rh.html