Australian children to be sterilized without parental consent under new eugenics law

[humanalien]

Posted by fox.mulder (here)

Posted by humanalien (here)

Posted by fox.mulder (here)
Actually i think the concept is a good idea and i think it should be extended to the majority of the all the ****wits that live in my country. It seems that only the less intelligent tend to breed more less intelligent people. This will solve alot of world problems.

I hope you choke on those words. What gives you the right to say who dies and who lives?

Humanalien you are yet another example of the delusion that is prevalent. Where did i say anywhere about choosing people dying or living? Show me......

I'll apologize for now because i took the meaning of your post the wrong way.

The meaning i got out of that post was that if you had your way, you would
get rid of the stupid people to make way for the smarter ones.

People aren't born to be stupid, unless they have a brain malfunction of some
sort. If you want to rid the world of unintelligent people then maybe a better
education system would be better.

[Tarka the Duck]

I find the idea abhorrent, but wanted to throw something in...

A close friend of mind works for a UK charity that supports young carers (children who find themselves in the position of caring for relatives, who through illness - mental or physical - and substance abuse, need their help). The location where she is based has a high incidence of crime and social need.

She doesn't have a support network of her own, so I have become her 'debriefing officer', as what she sees every day is heartbreaking.

Out of her open cases, she is currently offering support to 4 teenagers, each of whose mothers have moderate to severe learning difficulties.
I won't elaborate, but the lives of all these teenagers are very, very difficult.
They are the sole carers of their mothers. Two of them have recently attempted suicide.
There is insufficient help out there for both the adults and their children: family support networks are non-existent.

It's sobering.

[fox.mulder]

Posted by humanalien (here)

Posted by fox.mulder (here)

Posted by humanalien (here)

Posted by fox.mulder (here)
Actually i think the concept is a good idea and i think it should be extended to the majority of the all the ****wits that live in my country. It seems that only the less intelligent tend to breed more less intelligent people. This will solve alot of world problems.

I hope you choke on those words. What gives you the right to say who dies and who lives?

Humanalien you are yet another example of the delusion that is prevalent. Where did i say anywhere about choosing people dying or living? Show me......

I'll apologize for now because i took the meaning of your post the wrong way.

The meaning i got out of that post was that if you had your way, you would
get rid of the stupid people to make way for the smarter ones.

People aren't born to be stupid, unless they have a brain malfunction of some
sort. If you want to rid the world of unintelligent people then maybe a better
education system would be better.

Humanalien i do appreciate your apology as it shows you are not slave to ego. I know most (if not all) of my posts tend to be confrontational so it is easy to see me as some angry half glass person. i dont think better education is the answer to the problem as (1) "They" run all the education departments in the world (2) Educated people tend to more uneducated.

Really i dont see any practical option other than to volunatry stop breeding. This solves the human problem and deals with "them" as they will have no more fodder to farm off. Apparently our souls/spirits can live somewhere else so it really is not genocide.

[Explodey]

Hey Fox,

Your'e a hard bastard with no kids of your own?

I was of the same opinion until I had a couple...

We "breeders" are here for the same reason as you. L.O.V.E.

I now have a "labelled" child with amazing attributes of nonconformitism - sounds familiar...?

He has never been vaccinated - therefore is the perfect example of a child in dire need of sterilization?

F**k the un-breeders and there unloving philosophical bulls**t. Who said we are over populated - them?

They tell us to live in fear - you caught yourself a healthy dose...

Nam - f**king -aste

[humanalien]

The thing is fox.mulder, where would this stop in your perfect world.
After people stopped breeding, what would be next. Getting rid
of black people, mexicans or chinese, depending on what race you
are? This could go in any direction and be expanded on, in any
direction. It could start out as stopping people from breeding and
then maybe you don't like people of color. Maybe then, you don't
like people with missing limbs or wheel chair bound. Give anyone
just a little power and that power will be abused and misused.

I agree that the education system, especially in america, sucks
really bad. As i'm finding out right now, we let kids slide by with
barely any class time at all. The school still gives these kids passing
grades, just to get them out the door. What kids are being taught, aren't
exactly the truth either, so yes, the education system isn't the greatest
thing around but at least it's something. At least, with a basic education,
people wouldn't be blathering idiots.

I think it was a star trex show i once watched where people on a different
planet, executed anyone with a deformity of any kind. Their thinking was
that if people weren't born perfect, in every way and according to state
guidelines, they could never help make contributions to society. Later on,
in the show, the opposite was found to be true and the law to kill less than
perfect people was cancelled.

At any rate, life is a gift, in it's many forms and no one has a right to say
who can breed and who can't.

The question was already asked, so i'll ask to. Do you have any kids?

[Mulder]

Thanks for the interesting thread Cjay. It's a shame some people are making disruptive & eugenicist comments here though. I think moderators need to start banning people who disrupt the forum after giving them some warnings.

[MacStar]

Posted by fox.mulder (here)
Unfortunately MACSTAR if you have 2 year old daughter then you are a breeder and part of the problem. I know this sounds offensive to you but i dont intend it to be. There are too many people on this planet already. When there are thousands of children already dying in the world each year then adding another is in my books very careless. If someone would like to raise children then maybe adopt some of those already alive and living poorly. That is if one really loves children and not just love the "idea" of having children.

BOOM!! nice start for a new member

fox.mulder,I didn't join to have arguements over belief systems as they are just that.
If you think that The Elite's plan for Global Control is O.K.,then "Eugenics" will assure their victory over your part in the Big Picture.Unfortunately I see you as part of the problem believing the hype that the world is over-populated and that this is causing misery and imbalance....balance is proportional my friend
I also gather that you don't really grasp the mechanisms of Power attained from Pre-pubescent suffering as proposed in this Bill?
As close as you can get to open mass bloodbath for the Vampires and you will accept this?
WOW
Anyone with half a brain can see that Governments,Schools,Police and all the way up the puppet-chain are being given their orders to weaken the resistance.
These orders come from the richest Groups and People on this Planet.
If the Rothschild's were to share their wealth LOL,there would be enough to house,feed and maintain every single person here and their off-spring...and more.
You do live in Aus,where we have vast land masses that are unpopulated and can be given the attention these places need and it's no stretch to think it can't be inhabitable.
Also consider that people die every day and in my case during my lifetime and within my direct Family,more have passed than have been replaced.Each with somewhat of a legacy of information(energy)to be passed on.
Without this Legacy,especially from my late Father, I would not be on this path, I can assure you.I would almost certainly be a Sheeple.

Some points FYI.
I am adopted.
My Child was born against all odds as my Partner has conditions that 5 "Specialists",some of the highest in Australia,said that she could NEVER EVER conceive because of.
We accepted this as part of our path together.I was also on Prescription medication that severely impaired my Libido to albeit ZILCH and my Partner was also prescribed "The Pill" to help with her medical issues,yet the stars aligned one night,we partook of a mixture of WPG and the Sacred Mushroom for spiritual and healing purposes.Love was amped to 11 as we melded together lying on the floor hugging each other.This was a feeling of closeness one does not feel within the Earthbound State.
This was the night of conception without doubt as my Libido went back to Zilch afterwards,so a no-brainer to work out when She was conceived.
My belief system is based around a mutiverse where the Physical,Non-Physical and all in between are interconnected as energy...finite energy sytems,not limitless.All of which are dependent upon each other.
Thus to reduce our race here to slaves or premature death as proposed will tip the scales in Favour of the Dark Cabal.
One must first face the Duality within before one can even get a grasp on the Duality that exists within our Race.
This is my opinion and the facts presented are true....maybe a little less confrontation might help you see that you yourself are not immune to your ego's beliefs.
By this statement "Humanalien i do appreciate your apology as it shows you are not slave to ego." To me anyway,it is apparrent that your ego is well intact and you are still somewhat "enslaved" as you put it.

Posted by fox.mulder (here)
Humanalien i do appreciate your apology as it shows you are not slave to ego. I know most (if not all) of my posts tend to be confrontational so it is easy to see me as some angry half glass person. i dont think better education is the answer to the problem as (1) "They" run all the education departments in the world (2) Educated people tend to more uneducated.

Really i dont see any practical option other than to volunatry stop breeding. This solves the human problem and deals with "them" as they will have no more fodder to farm off. Apparently our souls/spirits can live somewhere else so it really is not genocide.

We won't be sending our Daughter to be Institutionalised,in fact she is way ahead of any kid I know at her age.
She will learn how things work and learn how to learn,not be taught and to always question...well she does that now LOL

Oh they will have plenty to feed off as they hold our DNA Genomes

Get rid of the Rat's and then build another race to run things their way is the plan.

F@ck that!

I trust we will get along fine fox.mulder

[fox.mulder]

So far i have been told or implied

(1) "I hope you choke on those words" (although an apology was given)

(2) "F**k the un-breeders and there unloving philosophical bulls**t. Who said we are over populated - them?

They tell us to live in fear - you caught yourself a healthy dose...

Nam - f**king -aste "

(3)"It's a shame some people are making disruptive & eugenicist comments here though. I think moderators need to start banning people who disrupt the forum after giving them some warnings. "

(4) "If you think that The Elite's plan for Global Control is O.K.,then "Eugenics" will assure their victory over your part in the Big Picture.Unfortunately I see you as part of the problem believing the hype that the world is over-populated and that this is causing misery and imbalance....balance is proportional my friend
I also gather that you don't really grasp the mechanisms of Power attained from Pre-pubescent suffering as proposed in this Bill?
As close as you can get to open mass bloodbath for the Vampires and you will accept this?
WOW"


WOW indeed ... and i have been made out as the ogre here.

If any of you cannot handle anyone elses different opinions without getting personal then maybe you should go back and reassess yourself.

I have made no personal attacks on anyone here. I merely came up with a suggestion of how to solve the human problem. I didnt say it was ideal but it would work. Nowhere did i say that certain groups were to be culled or any eugenics to be undertaken. That was all made up by the reader.

The world is overpopulated and the evidence is the thousands if not millions of people particularly children that are dying/suffering each year. Despite all the theorys of how to deal with this there is no solution that is going to work in practice. The people who are in charge are too powerful. The only way to beat it is to reduce the population by reducing the breeding rate. Then there is no one to be used for fodder. This great "change" that is coming is just wishful thinking.

That is my opinion ... disagree if you will but dont get personal.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Cities are overpopulated, no more no less, plenty of living and breathing space outside of those.

Food, fuel and resources are just an issue of correct management and fair distribution.

Come to the light side, we have nookie.

[Leon]

I think you don't understand what is happening in Australia...

Australia like some other countries are at the forefront of NWO developments.

This is also a reason to fear when Aussies say Quote! "if you don't like it leave"

I have friends there within the system, politiking... you don't want to know all the plans and things going on down under....

Your Government is so huge that people are so blinded by what is really going on...
I know what you mean with F***wits though...
the country is huge and mostly void of people... I am sure you can figure this out.

Why is the single mum syndrome being encouraged so much in Aust???

[jackovesk]

Posted by fox.mulder (here)

Posted by MacStar (here)

Posted by fox.mulder (here)

Posted by Cilka (here)
People, have you noticed? The system, with whatever law they intend to pass, has done exactly that what it was intended to do. It created more division, hate and anger among you. Instead of fighting the system, you are fighting each other. That is the reason why it is almost impossible to win this game. The system (governements) will always win in every situation.

Yes yes yes you are right Cilka it is impossible to win this game. However..............maybe our little bald friend Gandhi had the answer.......non complience.....he is one little bald smart f***ker!

So people stop ****ing breeding........keep IT in ur pants................

Dont get me wrong my comment upstairs were not a troll....im serious... you are never gonna win this game with active action......if you think so then you are deluded.

You just cant stop obeying rules or not pay ur mortgage, you just practically cant do this. BUT....you can stop breeding..........dont play the game any more.

If any of you have visited the non physical realm....you will know that life on earth as a human pales into insignificance........The human brain is just a sponge for the next belief you can cling too to sooth the ego, fear and to nurture any hope. When you breed you just bring along the next human who is just gonna be the next ****wit that is going to get caught up in the illusion. STOP BREEDING.

And for those who have?

This is a wholistic battle and while we can inhabit many realms mate,this is the one we have the highest affinity for.
There is a reason for this and it will be revealed in time.
There is a difference between non-compliance and giving up.I have been to other realms that are fantastic and feel more like home than here but for the moment this is where we are at this crucial point,it is my belief that we must do our part.

My 2 year old Daughter knows no different and loves this place,for her I will defend against Evil in it's many guises for Her safe charter onto the next stage....remember "they" are nothing without our FEAR

Cheers,no flaming intended.

Unfortunately MACSTAR if you have 2 year old daughter then you are a breeder and part of the problem. I know this sounds offensive to you but i dont intend it to be. There are too many people on this planet already. When there are thousands of children already dying in the world each year then adding another is in my books very careless. If someone would like to raise children then maybe adopt some of those already alive and living poorly. That is if one really loves children and not just love the "idea" of having children.

If I were you fox.mulder, I would leave new member MacStar alone...



Judging by his Avatar he has friends in places you need not mess with, remember PinHead never forgets...

In all seriousness, do you have children..? Or if you do or not, do you think the rest of society has a right to dictate whether or not YOU are allowed to procreate..?

Just wondering..?

Rgs,

Jack

[MacStar]

You opened The Box.....

Thanks jackovest for asking the very same question I wanted to know.

I and others here would take it that you are not a Parent by your posts thus far.

So if you think the other-side has more to offer and the World needs some culling,then if this Bill were aimed at your race,religion or age bracket,would you be first in line?

If not then what is your Duty here on Earth?

There is a permanent way to leave this realm matey

Not that I would like to see that happen nor am suggesting you do.Just that it's different when you are immune to proposals like this.

[BMJ]

Hi Macstar,
I'm glad you joined Avalon and at the right time, coincidence? LOL.

Boris

[MacStar]

Thanks Boris,nice to meet

What is coincidence?



Very happy to be aboard after all these years of pondering.

Cheers

[jackovesk]

Posted by MacStar (here)
You opened The Box.....

Thanks jackovest for asking the very same question I wanted to know.

I and others here would take it that you are not a Parent by your posts thus far.

So if you think the other-side has more to offer and the World needs some culling,then if this Bill were aimed at your race,religion or age bracket,would you be first in line?

If not then what is your Duty here on Earth?

There is a permanent way to leave this realm matey

Not that I would like to see that happen nor am suggesting you do.Just that it's different when you are immune to proposals like this.

To be honest MacStar, I really don't understand your post

You do know this question was put to fox.mulder not you, don't you...?

In all seriousness, do you have children..? Or if you do or not, do you think the rest of society has a right to dictate whether or not YOU are allowed to procreate..?

Just wondering..?

For the record (No-One) has the right to tell anyone whether or not they can have children...

The world is not over populated and never will be Mother Earth/God have kept this planet in balance and always will...!

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, as I'm trying my best to stay out of trouble...

PS - I mean no malice to you either fox.mulder, I believe in everyone's right to (Freewill) without exemption...

PSS - Basically I'm growing tired of all this meaningless banter, it really has no bearing on anyone or anything.

[Magnus]

Are all children of today or even of tomorrow grateful to their parents for the 'nice gift' of being born into this world they in most cases involuntarily inherit?

Where does free will fit into this system of procreation? Free ego on the other hand fits just fine.

I for one are as sure as i can be that i didn't choose this incarnation by free will.

[fox.mulder]

OK in point form ,

(1) Hello MacStar welcome to the forum. I'm sure you are big enough to handle radical debates without getting upset and calling in your friends.

(2) @Jackovest and all others who feel i was suggesting eugenics. I am not. I was suggesting that ONE solution to the current human problem is to stop breeding. Therefore the elite eventually will have no one to control. Yes its not ideal but (1) It is achievable and cannot be manipulated with government controls. (2) It can do nothing but eventually work. It's not like i was saying to kill everone, humanity eventually dies out.


(3) I'm not convinced the people in control actually want to reduce population. For them a high population means more farming. So when somthing like the "georgia stones" or even this article that started this thread is put out there, well the first thing people think is "oh the PTB want to kill everyone so lets breed even more now to thwart their evil intentions". The PTB get their way they get more people to farm. The PROBLEM REACTION SOLUTION has worked again.

(4) If anyone has a working solution to rectify our human problem then put it on the table.

(5) Check out this site. http://www.vhemt.org/ I really relate to alot of this.

[Flash]

Fox.mulder and others who may think that sterilisation without knowledgeable consent is ok:

1. In the fifties, psychiatrists in mental hospitals in North America were the only one giving the ok for brain surgeries and experimentations. The horrors that went on in psychiatric hospitals is countless.

Tens of thousands of peoiple were lobotomized without their consent, including a very renown French Canadian singer who had her life destroyed when she went in depression and was hospitalised late to be lobotomised, you know why, because her married boyfriend would not quit his wife and she went in depression.

Depression, good reason to lobotomize, sterilise, etc, and including my uncle who was lobotomised without his consent or his familiy consent during a depression eppisode because he was in a seminary, with priest, and was rape. Do not trust psychiatrists to be sane ever (tell me what you do for a living, I will tell you what your problem is. Guess for psychiatrists..)

2. How are we going to determine who goes under the scalpel and how doesn't. It starts with "stupids unintelligent retards" then goes to political leftists, then goes to gays, then goes to schizophrenics, then goes.... the list is endless. It all depends on your biaises and those of your culture, generation or your own PTB. As far as I am concerned, the PTBs psychopaths of this world would be the first under the scalpel, much before the "retards"

3. I personnally know children (2) who were born from low IQ parents - enough to be considered retards - who are now in University. Retardation is not always genetic and/or transmittable.

4. I decided I would make my own sarcastic list of retard and of people we should have gotten rid of when in childhood, or that we should have sterilised, or whos parents should have been sterilised,

Here we go:

Great beings that would not have been here to serve our planet if we were to have eugenics working full spin, or euthanatize those that are « not perfect »

• Michael Gorbachev with his red patch on his forehead (ugly): the precursor without whom policies the communism regime would not have stopped and Berlin wall would not have fallen
• Winston Churchill, who could not learn at school (probably dyslexic and ADD) and whose father sent him in military school in the hope that the militaries would put something in his stupid (thinking of the father, not me) son’s head
• Van Goth, who became kind of schizophrenic – should have been killed then -and was missing an ear
• Einstein who was not speaking by age 5 and deemed retarded throughout his elementary school years
• Jesus Christ who was surely considered a weirdo for many of his time, surely from the established religious hierarchy of the time (he was killed too late, should have been at birth, Pilates was right)
• Nelson Mandela should have been killed, being a rotten terrorist of his time, contesting the established order, those genes, no...... (this is a sarcasm, I do not think this at all on the contrary)
• Beethoven should have been killed when he became deaf (even if he composed his greatest pieces afterward)
• This physicist in England in a wheelchair talking with a voice simulator, should never have lived, too crippled and a burden to society, even if he is a nobel price and has many discoveries in physics, no, his name: Stephen Hawking (This famous scientist is considered as the greatest scientist of the twentieth century after Einstein. Haw king’s big bang theory and black hole theory has turned the attention of the world. He is the professor of Mathematics of the University of Cambridge
• Tolouse Lautrec, who wants a dwarf to live, even if one of the best painters?
• Franklin D. Roosevelt should have been killed after becoming paralysed, no need for crippled walking around and demanding help
• Hellen Keller, my god, blind, deaf and mute, who needs that.
• Leonardo Da Vinci, more gay than this and you die, who needs gays around?
• Joan of Arc, hearing voices at a young age, should have been killed for sure.
• Theresa de Avila with her states of spiritual crisis, weird.
• I forgot Mother Teresa, she was getting too old, we should have euthanasised her right in her fifties, before she did all the fuss about worthless dying Indians in the streets of Calcutta.

[Paul]

Posted by Mulder (here)
Thanks for the interesting thread Cjay. It's a shame some people are making disruptive & eugenicist comments here though. I think moderators need to start banning people who disrupt the forum after giving them some warnings.

A certain member who has been prominent on this thread has already received warnings, had posts deleted, and been sent on two "vacations", first for a one week, then for a one month. It is clear that member still doesn't get it.

Said member has "left the building."

By the way MacStar - welcome - glad to have you aboard.

[Cjay]

Thank you to all the positive, loving, caring humans who contributed to this thread. I had to restrain myself for a few days.

Grandmother's wisdom: If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.